to the regional division of the russian pension fund, you communicate, i have not communicated with him since the summer of 2021, since then i have not communicated, everyone has chosen his own path, you know what his fate is now, i absolutely do not know whether he has any troubles because of who is his brother, each has chosen his own path. he chose him, everyone follows his own path, i follow the path of a military general in the defense forces of ukraine. he has such a way that he is in the temporarily occupied territory of the autonomous republic of crimea, this is his way. not talking, not interested, no information. of course. and mr. serhiy, it is very interesting to know, actually, what is your path, what are your plans for the future? the war continues, i have

a place in the defense forces of ukraine, after the end of the war, i dream of living in our prosperous, peaceful ukraine, and building and developing our glorious state, if it is not a secret in which corner, in which corner, well, i live in kyiv, kyiv - this is a beautiful magical place, i would like to stay here, but if there is time, i will go to war. visited different parts of ukraine, but it so happened that, well, not yet i was such an adult, i haven't been to donetsk and luhansk, and i haven't been yet, well, i've already been to all the rest of the regions, but i've been to the territory of the donetsk-luhansk region, but i haven't been to donetsk and luhansk, well, we hope.

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have a driver's license. yes, she has there was really no right. but will he appoint a candidate who understated the value of property and accepted expensive gifts as a judge. my grandmother has been a private entrepreneur since 2019. congratulations. judicial control is on the air. institutional rebooting and personnel renewal of the judiciary based on the norms of professional ethics and integrity is the basis of the judicial reform currently underway in ukraine. its successful implementation is the main requirement for our further path to the eu. however, how successful is the transformation and whether the moral and professional qualities correspond enforcers of justice to high standards, let's talk today. but first to the news. the higher anti-corruption court announced the verdict of the judge of the summer district court of sumy, mykola shershak. journalist in obtaining an illegal

benefit and was sentenced to seven years of imprisonment. in 2019, judge mykola šarshak was detained while receiving a $200 bribe ($1,700) found in the judge's home, another $300 during a personal search. the judge hid part of the money in a jar made of green peas. then judge chershak demanded that the accused drive a car while intoxicated money for not bringing him to justice. according to the investigation, the judge received these funds. mykola shershak's sentence has not yet entered into legal force and an appeal may be filed against it. the third disciplinary chamber of the supreme council of justice sent for dismissal. serhiy savytskyi, the judge of the khustsky district court of zakarpattia oblast, who was caught driving drunk in march of this year. the amount of alcohol in the blood was three times higher than the norm. the tyachiv district court of zakarpattia region brought him to administrative responsibility. now the judge was one step away from dismissal.

during the preliminary inspection, we offered judge savytskyi to provide an explanation regarding the circumstances stated in the document. judge savecka did not provide an explanation. the final decision must be taken by the supreme council. the judge is in full force. the higher anti-corruption court has started considering the appeal in the case of the former judge of the lenin district court of poltava serhiy kononenko. in july of this year, he was found guilty of receiving an illegal benefit and sentenced to 6 years in prison with confiscation of property. according to the materials investigation, kononenko received 300 hryvnias for the decision to recognize ownership of a self- built garage and 5 thousand. hryvnias in the case of debt recovery of 100 thousand hryvnias. kononenko tried so hard to postpone the sentence that he even tried to mobilize to the zsu. however, he did not succeed. the judges stated that the mobilization to the military academy was a way of evading the court. the higher

anti-corruption court scheduled the review of the appeal for november 4. meanwhile, the higher qualification commission of judges continues the competition to fill vacancies positions judges, the supreme council of justice is already preparing a submission to the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, on the appointment of judges of local courts. the vrp considers candidates who have already been selected and recommended by a higher qualification commission, recognizing them as virtuous and meeting professional criteria and ethical requirements. some applicants are simply amazing. this is cherkasy district administrative court judge valentina orlenko. and she has been for more than seven years. does not administer justice due to the expiration of the term of office, attended school judges, sometimes helped colleagues prepare projects, prepared some for meetings. valentina orlenko, a classic judge and uses standard schemes, issued a lexus for her 62-year-old

mother. at that time, if i'm not mistaken, she was 62 years old, but a modern woman who was always busy with herself. the judge assures that the mother dreamed of a car and spent her whole life saving up for it, but getting a driver's license did not increase, the mother had the skills to drive a car, as her father had a car, so she really had no rules, and your mom has never been enrolled in any courses oh she promised me she said she would enroll but since this car purchase was related to the fact that she understands that i'm entering the car she planned... after all , she found out for herself in which place she will pass on the license and transferred the car to me for use, so that i would take care of the children and, including, these trips to school. it is interesting that the judge used this lexus even before

the alleged mother bought the car from the direct owner. the third has the car owner given you a power of attorney for the right to use and dispose of the car? so... my mother asked me to provide it in maridan, and i already received this power of attorney from my mother, in fact you used it, i used it, and the mother and the owner agreed, so it looks like the car was immediately purchased for valentina orlenko, and not for a retired mother. however, despite the judge's dubious explanations, the supreme council of justice recognized her as worthy of a judge's mantle. i propose to introduce the president. of ukraine submission on the appointment of valentyna ivanovna orlenko to the position of judge of the cherkasy district administrative court. the voting is over, 16 members of the vrp voted for, zero against, the decision was made. and this is another candidate for the position of judge, oleksandr bessonov. he wants to become a judge

of the teplodar court of odesa region. honesty is giving the true information that is available. well, nothing to hide, nothing to distort. don't put it on the shoulders of second or third people, oleksandr besonov has a wonderful family, a loved one is gifted valuable gifts and help for the last few years while the candidate in... is engaged in scientific activities and self-improvement. in the 22nd year, my mother gave me money. you declared a gift in 23, that's right. yes, it's from my grandmother. yes, this grandmother has been a private entrepreneur since 2019. at the same time , besonov does not know what exactly his grandmother does. what is your business that generates such a pretty serious income. i leave you like this. they will say, well, what is written in kveda, that is what she deals with, and you do not you know, in fact, i won't tell you right away, except for

caring relatives, oleksandr bessonov has incredible luck, in 2017 he bought a two-level apartment in novobudov near kyiv with an area of ​​125 m2 for uah 143. it's not the city of kyiv, it's a village, but it's near kyiv, it's actually, well , now it looks a little different, now it looks a little different, when it was... the 17th year, when we came there, it was a field , and i apologize for it, the cabbage is overgrown. however, roman maselko, a member of the supreme council of justice, checked the candidate's words the position of a judge and found that the construction in the open field began in 2014, so in the 17th oleksandr besonov could hardly see cabbage there. everything starts there at least in january 2014. uah 7,200 per square meter is the price there. on average, at the time in may

17, when you purchased, the average price per square meter was 10,500, but you purchased for 1,100, that is, nine times cheaper, how can you explain that? i'll explain to you again, the apartment was bought at the foundation stage, i'm going in now, looking at... your complex from a bird's eye view as of the date of your purchase of this house, and you say that it is at the foundation level, but your house, according to this data, is completely built, it may not yet be furnished inside, it is obvious that, but it is already completely all floors erected, covered the roof , that is, well, that is, it is definitely not a foundation, or to be honest, oleksandr bisonov is not very good at it, or he was really... very lucky, and the developer simply forgot to add another zero to the cost of the apartment.

besonov's wife is also very lucky. in 2019 to her managed to buy a bentley continental for uah 100,000. and it is at least eight times cheaper than the market value. why such a cost? because its technical condition was external and did not correspond to a higher price. the council of justice was still unable to make a positive decision regarding oleksandr besonov and asked him for additional confirmation of the truth of his words. by this time, a break has been announced. and for today i have everything, it was judicial control and i, tetyana shustrova. if you know facts of corruption in the judicial system, or you want to report about an unscrupulous judge who makes illegal decisions, write. to me on facebook or to the email address you see on the screen. it's all good, we'll meet

in exactly one week. today in the verdict program with serhii rudenko. different landscapes, battlefields. it is difficult for western partners to explain why they cannot close not... or over ukraine, just like over israel. how to overcome the deficit of decisions on joint work and joint protection. steps to historical decisions. the plan to win ukraine remains zelenskyi's main bet in the future war with russia. why do the allies emphasize the need to overcome old habits regarding corruption. elections to strengthen the government. an article in the economist newspaper raised a wave of discussion about the probability of a presidential

election campaign next year, is zelenskyi's team really preparing for the race? glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our country. i can in the first part of our program, we will have the former prosecutor general of ukraine yurii lutsenko as a guest, and in the second part of our program, which will start in exactly one hour, there will be a traditional journalism club. yanina sokolova and larisa voloshina. however, before starting our big conversation today, i suggest watching a video of the consequences of a powerful fire at two oil depots in russia, in the voronezh region and the perm region, the sbu unofficially confirmed the drone strike on

the ananefteprodukt base in voronezh region, local five powerful explosions were heard, after which a fire broke out in the warehouse, let's see, this is an enchanting video. glory to the defense forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, we work

live on the spresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live there, please under. subscribe to our pages, take part in our poll, today we ask you the following: do you support the idea of ​​economic harrowing against mobilization? yes, no, everything is quite on youtube simply, you can write your own version of the answer in the comments under this video, and if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote by numbers, yes 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these. numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. so, our guest today, yurii lutsenko, captain of the armed forces of ukraine, ukrainian politician and statesman, former prosecutor general of ukraine and former minister of internal affairs of ukraine. greetings, yuriyuvych. good evening. first, let's take a survey in bliss format and

answer the question: do you support the idea of ​​economic harrowing against mobilization? i categorically do not support it, because it... means a war for the poor and the possibility of legal redemption from the war of those who have money, from my point of view it transforms, splits us into two countries, which is completely incomprehensible, but there is illegal economic reservation even today we witnessed a similar case, the state bureau of investigation exposed the manager of khmelnytskyi regional center. of the medical and social examination, a deputy, among other things, of the regional council from the servant of the people, tetiana krupa and her son oleksandr krupa on illegal enrichment, you see, it was all found in their apartment, we are talking about cash of almost 6 million us dollars in various currencies, law enforcement officers are investigating the case of

illegal registration of disability for men who are trying to avoid military service. this message, which was distributed by the sbi, refers to 30 real estate objects of this family in khmelnytskyi, lviv, kyiv, nine luxury cars, corporate rights for uah 48 million, a hotel and restaurant complex of almost 3, m2 in one of khmelnytskyi's parks, real estate in austria, spain and turkey, and more than $2 million in foreign currency accounts of the family. yuriy vitalivych, to you as to the general? the former prosecutor general, could our special services and, in particular, the security service of ukraine not see what the sbi found in tetyana krupa and her son? well, first of all, today's event is not the only one, today they were also detained in kharkiv oblast with approximately the same plot of bribe-takers, and

if we recall, we see at least half a dozen similar officials. from this system tsk, msek, vlk, which is delayed with huge amounts of money. everyone is used to the fact that in most cases of bribery, probably 90 percent in recent years, only deputies from the servants of the people appear, and therefore the first conclusion: the servants of the people can end corruption exclusively by their own suicide. this party is not able to stop the open looting. rear, behind the backs, bleeding soldiers. second position, you can it would be enough to thank the law enforcement officers for exposing, well, a special case. ignited some kind of problem, and a growth on the body, on the healthy body of the state mechanism, but in view of the number of similar cases and

the absolutely unconcealed accumulation of these millions at home in bedside tables, in my opinion, this means only one thing: this family has given everything due to roll back to the mountain and absolutely she felt herself at ease, without fearing no. nothing, because they are members of the ruling party, because they belong to the elite families of the region, and they obviously do not have any evidence, but i think that they have already given everything to the mountain, and that is why the bedside tables are full and they are enjoying themselves peacefully, this reveals another problem, the problem of how many of us have left abroad in a similar way, and when the europeans say that during the hostilities in ukraine because of our border. about 600,000 conscripted men left, multiply by the amount of bribes, and we understand that there is also

a semi-military budget, and then the question is in which pockets does it all sit, and my answer is such a massive levy, such a massive system, such a vacuum cleaner of money during there can be no war coordinated from one center, if there is evidence... then let's remember that all high-ranking servants, well, deputies not of the regional, but of the verkhovna rada, who are reached by law enforcement officers who are not under the control of the office, strangely go abroad absolutely freely, and the president convenes the council, gives three weeks to stop this disgrace, and exactly on the fourth week, the next servant of the people leaves, accused of bribery, hence the conclusion, there is a vertical system operating in our country. system of ee mega corruption that is covered er, the supporting pillars of the current government, from

the political and legislative, executive and law enforcement authorities, er, this is a very difficult conclusion, i would not have said so sharply, if it had not happened against the background of tragic events at the front. in fact, this family shows everything that is happening just like in a drop of dirty water, we actually have two ukraines, one is bleeding, and with words the glory of ukraine looks into the eyes of murderers, and the other is under a sign that says the state body of ukraine, collects bribes, one collects money for a trench reb, the other throws billions at laying companies overseas. and does not bring shells from there , paid for shells, one, well, we can continue this series, unfortunately, we have this trouble, which in fact, you asked me about economic

armoring, this is again one ukraine will pay off, and the other will shed blood, so that these , who redeemed themselves, sat quietly in restaurants, from my point of view this is absolutely unacceptable, this is also the case in ugledava, well, in donbas in general. and events in the rear require extraordinary actions by the executive and legislative powers, require a frank conversation by the president with the ukrainian people, he no longer needs fables for the night after the marathon, he needs an honest conversation about what is happening and how to change this situation, because this is not the way to victory. what happened even today, what is happening in general in tsc, we have already seen these cases in boryspil tsc. the head of boryspil, buchansk tsc, lviv tsc, odesa, that is, this is a whole system that exists in ukraine, who is politically

responsible for it? when you don't know the answer, open the law. according to the law on mobilization, the president of ukraine determines the terms, terms and forms of mobilization. technically, tsk or former military committees are subordinate to the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine. why for me? it's still a mystery, honestly, but if you start reading the law, how this mechanism works, then the military is at the very bottom of this mechanism, they only accept a recruit at the end, and then take him for five weeks for training, everything else is happening through civilians, it would have been fair for a long time for the president to take up his constitutional duty, this is not a right, this is a duty, in contrast to the many , many things that president zelensky was engaged in during his 5 years. it is his duty to engage in mobilization, in particular, in the end to create a civilian system in the tcc, perhaps not subordinated to the military, to make it with...

completely different, but we don't have that, we first rename this service, well, that's easy , then an order to completely remove everyone, well, this is also pure populism, then a new order to distance yourself from this, let the military be responsible for everything, and now a new story, now the heimbrigs are mobilizing themselves not a complete set, well, that is, you can imagine, the 72nd combrich, which was defending the ughledar, which it bypasses... on the flanks, has to think at the same time where to take its fighters, this is the logic, you understand, to say such a thing with the permission of the state administration, this the logic of washing one's hands, without responsibility and incompetence, but this is evasion of one's constitutional duties, it implies the president's responsibility before the law, if this were the only problem, look, i don't want to talk about

the president's responsibility now, because more... responsibility than responsibility for the events at the front, he does not have now, everything that will happen later, in the course of the activities of law enforcement agencies, will happen later, and believe me, the most terrible thing is the punishment of yourself, when you took on something that you will not be responsible for, in this case the president should not think about the future responsibilities there, the interrogations, well, believe me, this is a very small problem, the whole problem is that now we... are not standing on the plan of victory, if the projects that he is bringing overseas were not loudly mentioned , what is happening inside the country is not the way to victory, and you have to start here with yourself, not under fear of future criminal cases, under fear of the oath on the constitution, which he took during the inauguration, when he assumed this position, that is why the greatest responsibility, you mentioned about the angler.

about the departure of the armed forces of ukraine, there are already many different comments, and how the 72nd brigade left there, and how difficult it was there, and the president spoke about this in part, and those who are at the front or who receive information from there say that enough is enough everything is difficult what do the latest events around the coal plant show, do they continue this chain that already existed during this great war and... this is another, another city that, well, also requires an investigation, what happened there and who did not make the appropriate decisions when they were supposed to be adopted? look, this is not the first case of similar events at the front, it all started with severodonetsk, which was declared an impenetrable fortress, and the troops were left alone with their problems and sooner or later

fleeing. had to retreat, then there was bahmud, where i had the honor of spending my four months in the war, avdiyivka was next, then ugledar came, in fact the same thing is happening in toretsk, and pokrovsk, kurakhovo are waiting, because everyone talks about pokrovsk, because it is the road to the dnipro, but kurakhova is the road to zaporizhzhia and to the rear of our troops covering the zaporizhia front, pay attention to that... and uglodar actually opens the way to this very kurakhiv. accordingly, can any conclusions be drawn from this? yes, yes, i forgot to say in opchansko. yes, everything is happening one scenario at a time. why? because the president, despite all his positive qualities as a speaker, i always emphasize this, it is impossible to create an effective management system, that is, multi-year plans, responsible. people,

controlling them and punishing those who either steal or are simply an ineffective manager, instead he replaces all this very difficult, mundane, perhaps often invisible, unheroic activity, perhaps he replaces it with these infamous fortresses, he believes, that if we hold this fortress, we will win the war, it will not be like that, because if 72... the one who saved kyiv in 2022, standing alone against 50,000 russian occupiers who were advancing on kyiv, stands at the coalface, then in the infantry battalion of this brigade there were sometimes 20 men left, nothing can be done to save the...