the battle on the left, the brigade commander saw the situation, the brigade on the right, the brigade on the left, and that is, it is necessary for our citizens, our servicemen to understand that they see the situation that they need, and here we take this into account, i was the commander of the military intelligence, and when in parallel two intelligence groups are put forward for a task, they don't know the task of one of the other group, because if one of them gets captured, god forbid, he can tell about the task of the other group, which you... execute the task in parallel, so there are many safeguards , to avoid this, therefore that this is a war, so people die, people are captured, and we understand this, and when we join the army, and when we are united, not separated by the russian federation, by some misunderstanding of the situation, then we will be effective, when we go to the army, we join voluntarily, now recruiting is taking place in our unit, the third assault brigade 58, 28, fourth brigade, separate

artillery brigade, that is, you can apply to come immediately, for example, to a separate artillery brigade, they say i want to be an artilleryman, that’s all, we take you, you become an artilleryman, that is, you have to do it then, not when you were stopped by the tsk, you were taken away, you went to the bzvp, passed, got into some unfamiliar team, that is, now there are many recruiting centers, that is servicemen, brigade commanders are engaged in recruiting, recruiting personnel. and i am saying this, well, about the national guard of ukraine, because a serviceman of the national guard of ukraine, in our country these processes take place all the time, in the armed forces, they are the same, we we see bigboards going on and the military is going 120%, some are going 150, hr, pr, all these buzzwords, i learned during the full scale invasion, because we have to advertise, recruit, we already know, business... with

projects like a brigade is a company that provides certain services for the state, you hunt for personnel, and we collect personnel for ourselves, we transfer from other parts, you know, somewhere there we go to another brigade, there come to us better, our borscht is redder than yours in your dining room, we are still recruiting personnel, and you know, maybe someone there for the military and political leadership is considering that there someone somewhere is doing some there... dads get money, construction, and now there are many unfortunate situations, speculative situations, such two recent situations, this is ternopil-ivano-frankivsk regarding the construction of rehabilitation centers for veterans, but in ternopil, as i know, they built a residential complex, in ivano-frankivsk they want to build a rehabilitation center, but the rehabilitation center will be 25% of the constructed building, all it will be different... commerce, i.e.

certain citizens are already speculating about veterans, military personnel in order to get some profit, and these situations will arise, we can see the ukrainian truth, bigus, others there butusov plus, espresso, all other media, there are some independent media, they cover situations, corruption schemes, some not-so-good reliable citizens who flee abroad, who... they are now detained there, and this will happen, these are normal processes for a state in which there is a war, which is engaged in struggle for independence, and if you take the percentage ratio, there are corruption schemes, and i talked with certain categories of people, officials, that now corruption in the ministry of defense, in the ministry of internal affairs, that is, in the law enforcement agencies, is the lowest in the entire history of the independence of ukraine, when any precedents and mass media. information they cover, then this

shows the capacity of those media, the influence of the media, the influence of social networks, the raising of some social problem, an important problem for the army, for the formation of our state and defense capabilities, and then the state and the leadership of our state takes some kind of leverage, or removes someone, or you already know that, or does not take it, and even now it may be superfluous, let’s talk about the situation when... he fled and its commander-in-chief initiated a meeting with about this situation, that in two weeks there will be some kind of decision, uh, when it was, a month and a half ago, so in my opinion, maybe these decisions were made, but they were not made public, that is, i am talking about what we now everyone needs to communicate with each other one, i as a commander with personnel, military-political leadership with the military, my... subordinates and my

citizens also need feedback, a situation has arisen, it must be discussed and resolved and not disseminated, someone can say that this is secret information, i i understand all this, but we can say: we have made a decision, processes are now underway to improve this situation, we have gone deeper, and the minister or deputy minister is there, because the minister may be on some trips, to improve our influence there on the international arena, i understand all this, there are spokespeople, there are press officers who can communicate this with the citizens and military personnel of their country, so that this situation is not silenced and there is no heat between this situation and russia. did not use it, that is, any situation, or it is the szch, a serviceman who left and flaunted it, or it is dmytruk who escaped, all this must be communicated and explained to every citizen that we see these processes, they are happening, and that that it does not affect

further precedents there arbitrarily leaving parts, we consider why he left, how we can analyze this situation. the national guard of ukraine, these processes are taking place, that is, a situation has arisen, whether it is of a positive or negative nature, we conduct a briefing on this situation and we look at what we can take from this situation that has arisen, how we can improve it and so that in the future, this did not happen, you are now drawing a portrait. the ideal commander of any rank , in fact, that is, the importance of knowing, understanding what is happening in the heads, souls of subordinates, and therefore, to build a strategy of your behavior with these people, because you spend most of your life with them now,

but i would also like to note that, unfortunately, not always as of now, at least the teams are different. let's call it generic, but virtue, shall we? that is, there are decisions that were deliberately made, and they were deliberately made in the wrong direction, could lead to tragic consequences. all this is also there, and it is also a normal manifestation of war, especially of such crazy intensity. actually, at the beginning of the large-scale the invasion of our higher military command was characterized by the fact that... it allowed the commanders on the ground of various links to make decisions, that is, the moment of this delegation and understanding that the person on the ground sees and understands and we trust this person, it was, or is it now and isn't there, let's say,

a reverse process, when the commanders are perhaps hostages of the old school, let's call it that and...somewhere they are afraid to raise the problematic issues of their unit there, which they conventionally speaking are now leading, or are generally in is there a problem with commanders in the ukrainian army at the moment? you know, the problem of commanders is the question of whether we now have commanders, they are the same age as me, battalion commanders who directly make decisions. on the battlefield, there are older ones, there are younger ones, this is about combatants right now, on the battlefield, decisions must be made very quickly, as you rightly say, they can be wrong, because the intensity of combat operations is very high, the enemy is using

its reconnaissance and military means in large numbers weapons and equipment and a large amount of ammunition and a large number of personnel who carry out assault operations, the commander... with the company commander, who is working, they make decisions at their level, that is, the battalion commander is given fire equipment, which is included there in the battalion tactical group, or simply in a line battalion, and they make decisions there, when to introduce reserves, what means to use, command posts at their level use their fire means, their reserves, that is, it happens because, for example, we take commanders battalions there from our military unit, the rubizh offensive guard, they all passed the ranks, if not the platoon commander, then maybe they were even sergeants, the commander was a sergeant, they performed tasks, they were riflemen, grenade launchers, machine gunners, and more promising, they then have a career ladder that allows them, and they

are commanders of squads, commanders of the world, they go to battalion management, they understand how these processes take place from below, these teams understand how scary it is to be in the trenches when... you are stormed the enemy, but it is necessary to take actions, you have to repel, because if you, you know, because there is such a situation, it is very simple, you stand in a position, and it is scary for you to watch, but you do not see it. landing, you see the enemy, you just crouch down and you're so much more, you know, on some subconscious level calmer, but when you understand that if you don't do this, they'll come and kill you, or take you prisoner, or kill you they kill your brothers, and you do it, you are afraid, you do it, and you understand, you see the enemy, you enter into a shooting battle with him, you destroy it, and you know it, a shooting battle now sounds very exciting, for me personally and for the personnel, because in order to conduct a shooting battle, you have to survive a lot of artillery. they are bombarded by a lot of fpv raids and drop drones, so it's very difficult. and these battalion commanders, these

rot commanders, they were, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion , just personnel who carried out the task, and when they rise, they want to make the right decisions, and for example, on the national guard of ukraine, i want to say, personally, whom... who should i be afraid of, that is, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow i will go to the line of combat collision and i, if a guided aerial bomb dropped from a plane from the territory of the russian federation does not kill me, or an fpv will kill me, or i will have to go out for reconquest somewhere there will kill some arlan, who will see me and kill me with the krasnopole artillery system, that is, it can happen, and it can happen to anyone, to the brigade commander, because it is... first of all, these means that find out to destroy ksprigada, so that there was a loss of leadership, there is

many battalion commanders are competent and rod commanders, and for example, in our unit i do not see a critical situation there regarding incompetent commanders, because you know, the entire infrastructure of the national guard of ukraine, we are such a closed military formation with many functions, the protection of important state objects objects patrolling the territories, mass events, which are also attended by representatives of the national guard of ukraine. i want to say that i started my service in the 14th year, in the 50th regiment, which is based in ivano-frankivsk region, and those military personnel who guard burshtynska tes or patrol train stations in ivano-frankivsk, they fought for our independence six months ago in the serebliam forest, and these are the commanders of sergeant soldiers. they were losing their comrades, they saw the enemy in the sights of their small arms, they were destroying him,

and now they are back there on rotation, someone was wounded, they are now engaged in that patrol, and uh, i really, well, to be honest, i was driving here, thinking about it, i i am very proud of the fact that i am serving in the national guard of ukraine, because from us, if servicemen or officers are transferred somewhere, they are transferred either to the security service of ukraine or to the main intelligence directorate, because there are prospects there, i understand that he is better at this or that, and we have our own academy that trains officers, and many officers, brigade commanders with injuries are sent to those academies, who later teach our future officers their experience, that is, this experience is analyzed and such processes are taking place, yes, in some directions, in very important directions, there, for example, let's take the pokrovsky direction, to which all the attention of ukrainian society is attached there, we are looking, we

are losing, as you said, it is very difficult there the situation, and units of the national guard of ukraine are also deployed there, and maybe someone with some vision wants to improve the situation and descends to the feet of their chairs there from kyiv and wants to help there, and you know, well, i hope that people who.. . let's go to that level and give there are instructions to brigade commanders, battalion commanders, they honestly and wholeheartedly want to help, there are simply many situations and mr. krotevych raises the issue of the release of sodol, and there are many others, as i said, this is the same process as with corruption, that is, we all people, servicemen, armed forces, national guard of ukraine, these are the citizens you can. to meet in the subway, in the cinema, in any cafe, or in the same cafe as we

are sitting with you now, in short, some of them happen unpleasant, it's normal, like ukrainian society, none of us are 100% cool, i just can't say that, i can allow myself, but yes, i understand what you mean absolutely, especially when we live in a world of total direct ether , sometimes there is so much of it that it seems to us that all we see is, you know, all this is our planet, and it is everywhere, and this is how it happens absolutely 100%, although we must understand that journalists always tell separate stories that can certainly indicate some. trends, but for that we and we are telling about them so that it does not turn into a trend, but okay, i actually wanted to ask, you are a hero of ukraine, but we were thinking about whether you should have received a gold star, right? er, that was the situation in june of '22, you know,

the day there was such that if you lived to lunch, that's good, if you lived that day, that's all. and looking at some material values, merits, i had personnel, when i was called to the ksp of the rubizh tactical group, to report what is possible there will or won't happen, supreme commander-in-chief of our ksp, and they want to award you the title of hero of ukraine with the award of the order of the golden star. i say, what is the order of the golden star, i have guys there in positions, i took some water, took some food and went back to the platoon base. point, because there were constant assaults, that was then, we were in the middle of the place of siverodonetsk, and the enemy wanted to destroy the bridges, the enemy wanted to break through, that is, in any way, there were constant air raids, constant artillery strikes, constant tank strikes, that is, by armored groups that attacked simply our platoon company strongholds, the battalion

lines of defense there, this happened along the entire line of contact of our point. and i just didn’t have time, i didn’t think about it, i had to go back, just to leave the platoon of the base point and get to the command post of the tactical group, it was necessary to carry out a special operation in which you could be killed, there it was necessary to run under fire from peder, then under the fire of the enemy machine gun it was necessary to run across, i.e. very it was a difficult situation, you had problems with logistics, problems with logistics, and considering all this, i just did not see. the expediency of handing out some awards at that stage of hostilities by me personally, my personnel, it was not important to me at all, that is, i have, i have an area for which i am responsible, and for me there were very important processes that took place , and i didn't want to leave there for a minute or an hour, because i'm leaving my staff, i'm leaving units to the left, to the right without

intelligence information, that is, such were the difficulties, and in my opinion there were many military personnel at that time. who were more deserving of this distinction than i was, and that is why i refused, said that i did not want to receive it, i was going to my staff, the brigade commander persuaded me, did not persuade me, well communicated, caused psychological pressure on me by his officials duties, the commander of the tactical group, and my comrades, when they said, yes, commander, you are worthy, you must take, take everything, and then i stayed and got the rank, thank you for that, for what you got then? and for the fact that i am now able to talk to you about it in particular. 8 hours at the start of a large-scale invasion, gostomel, the importance of the airfield and understanding why the russians focused on it so much is not for anyone now, well, at least for people who are interested in our war, it is no secret that the russians needed this

site in order to in the future , to deposit their military transport planes with everything necessary, and already... to develop the resource that should deal with the occupation our capital, and this was avoided, thanks to you and your comrades, in your other interviews you called the first 8 hours decisive, and ukraine correctly used this time, mobilized, were there other such peak moments for you during these 2.5 years , which you... saw for yourself, which we took advantage of and actually had certain moments, and maybe peak moments that we missed, you know, those 8 hours, in fact, as i said in past interviews, they were very important to our citizens, and a full-scale invasion began, like a war, the enemy attacked us

in the morning, i struck by surprise, and i understood that these all day our citizens can have troops, there the general headquarters, the national guard of ukraine can mobilize, plan and everything, we have, as military personnel, to fulfill their duty, to restrain the enemy, maybe to die, and everyone in me was ready to die, we were then in the luhansk region, our part was military personnel, the military part was in gostomel, and these military personnel, you know, this was the unity between... all commanders , all personnel of the defense and security forces of ukraine, so that everyone understands, now or never, the strength of defense and security of ukraine, they performed their function and survived. a colossal amount of enemy aircraft, because serhiy falatiuk was there, at the hustomil airfield, he shot down helicopters that came in, and he was there with the soldiers of our

military unit, they restrained the enemy, and this happened along our entire contact line and along the entire border with russia federation, that is, each commander completed these tasks, and you know, in the future such a more significant, more weighty social unity, i may not have felt for 2.5 years, then there was a path, you know, the path we were walking, there were obstacles somewhere, a certain number of military personnel, it is still united by this common thought, which began at the beginning of a full-scale invasion , that is, this unit, and my personnel , the military personnel with whom i got to know, we will continue to communicate, and no one is ready ... and does not want to leave the defense and security forces, these are my comrades in the airborne assault troops, the air force, army,

tank formations, reconnaissance units, the sbu, the band, that is, everyone, i know, i met many strong, worthy servicemen, servicemen of the defense forces of ukraine, and this unity still holds, there are situations that we took advantage of and that will be in the future... defensive operation in kurshchyna, the situation that did not work out for us is our counteroffensive in the south of ukraine, that is, you know, there are many such situations, and the situation of the greatest tragedy, and perhaps the greatest joy, can happen on a small scale, let's take it there the zaporozhye direction, any direction, the liman direction, the biggest tragedy can happen... this is when a bullet fired by some russian military kills someone's son, someone's daughter, someone's father, someone's sister, it will be the biggest tragedy on our planet, for

the family, for our nation, for our state, because our citizen died, who should live and advance our country into the future, into our prosperous future, and this situation they are for many citizens, they are special, because here. .. i was, you know, such situations the most difficult when you attend a funeral, or you are informed that someone has died, and recently we buried a scout from our military unit, yehor, and i presented the flag with the words on behalf of the president of ukraine, the supreme commander, i ask you to accept this flag as a symbol of the state , who faithfully and... your son served until the end, and when the mother started just sobbing and crying, and she accepts this flag, and she understands that our struggle continues, she lost her

son, but she did not lose the country, and i already my voice is holding when i say this, she did not lose the country, and this unity, we still have it, and we unite in such difficult critical situations, and this critical situation is still with us, because as we were at the beginning they talked to you... when the enemy hits the ivad publishing house in kharkiv, he destroys our books, he destroys our culture, when he hits institutes, when he hits schools, he wants to destroy our intellectual component, so that we do not develop, but our citizens continue to print books in the ukrainian language, write poems, develop new means of rap, develop new uavs that can burn warehouses in the depths of the russian federation, there are also new citizens who perform a security operation in the kursk region, the same ones who have already been fighting for 2.5 years, they are losing their

health , and they do not go to the szz, and they will continue to fight in the pokrov direction, and we have enough strong citizens and enough strength, motivation to continue to oppose the russian federation. thank you for this conversation, i will remind our viewers that we had the opportunity to talk with vitaly lytvyn, the hero of ukraine. an officer of the national guard of ukraine, the rubizh brigade, and we are very grateful to the institution, knigarnit, for the fact that we have the opportunity to hold this very important conversation for me in such a slightly informal atmosphere, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to the espress team, me my name is khrystyna yatskiv and see you soon. if you want to wake up as if you were a child in your grandmother's house full of strength and energy, then the mattress

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