about one more thing, it can be defeated by the system, but we lack systemic thinking, and that is why, when the americans say, give us your plans, what you, what you will do yourself, what you want us to help you and to what do you want to get out, then we will understand that you have a system, so far , unfortunately, such a plan has not appeared, instead, now we have a new miracle, we want to become a member of nato. president zelenskyi, the first visit to the usa by president biden was back in the 20th year, if i am not mistaken, in february, when he stepped in, started with this, said, we need to accept, join nato, and when they told him that this work is with three 32 countries, he said, well, cholera with him, this is generally a routine, and soon germany, france will be out of it it will turn out, it was a shock for biden, all the newspapers there were buzzing after that, now after so many years, president zelensky is going to...

the usa and says again: we need to join nato, knowing for sure that in america in less than a month presidential elections, that is, he communicates with the president, who in fact, there are 3 weeks left, he will still be the president until the inauguration in january, but for that, someone believes that in a month it is possible to mobilize 31 countries of the crimea of ​​the united states, which must be unanimously agreed upon. inviting ukraine to nato, so why do things that cause only misunderstanding, well, irritation, or to be more precise, irritation, well, again, joining nato, this is a very correct policy, but in this i absolutely support zelenskyi, absolutely support, if it was work of 5 years, because it is work with 32 very different countries, from united states and great britain to hungary.

slovak if this system worked, instead of a year we were steamrolled by peace forums. scaboverda and east timor, san marino and other island countries. then maybe it would give something. but on the last day we decided that we need nato on call. well, that kind of diplomacy doesn't work. one time it can work on surprise, the second time respect for the heroic ukrainian. people, the third time it causes irritation, that's the problem, although i want to be understood correctly, but this is the only formula for victory in this war and the only formula for preventing the next war, without nato we will not be able to end this war, prevent it, or prevent the next one, and we need to work on this seriously, systematically and... you

already mentioned the victory plan that was to be presented to the ukrainians, well, at least that's what andriy yarmak said, that we will show the ukrainians the victory plan, but with the exception of some secret articles and points, samantha paver, administrator of the united states agency for international development, during a visit to kyiv in an interview with the public commented on the victory plan from the point of view of economics and management, without touching on its military aspects, let's hear what she said. so our focus on the civilian side is another battleground to make sure that those who would want to undermine ukrainian democracy, who would want it to go back to the old ways of corruption, that these people, these forces do not succeed, well enough of such an unclear, frankly, quote, i think she herself did not see this plan of victory, but sibig, who was also in the united states of america, andriy sebiga, minister of foreign affairs. of ukraine announced historic decisions

regarding the russian-ukrainian war, which will bring the victory of ukraine closer. and he said this after a telephone conversation with state secretary antony blinkin, following the results of zelensky's visit to the united states of america. following the conversation, sebiga wrote on the x social network that they coordinated the next steps that will lead to historic decisions and bring the victory of ukraine closer. well, that's it. there is a lot of talk about it being some kind of plan of victory, which will allow us to do this, that, well, the united states of america probably also has a plan for the victory of russia, and it may not coincide with our plan for victory, i hope not for russia, after all, ukraine's plan for the victory over russia, the plan for the victory over russia and and it may not match and one way or another, well, it's hard to talk about a document that no one has seen. except for two people, maybe or three,

look, actually, it's true that the united states in its, well, global approach to our war. playing in their own interests, glory to god, that most of them coincide with ours, but we want to defeat russia so that a horde never comes from the north again, and the united states is afraid of the military defeat of russia, as the beginning of the uncontrolled disintegration of a nuclear state, the spread of nuclear weapons, tens of millions of refugees and all these horror stories that have been hovering over them in... for three dozen years now, and mr. biden, his team, and the majority, not all, thank god, but the majority of politicians in america, are er, or rather profess exactly this approach ,

afghan, to melt the enemy on a cold, slow fire and wait until he has intractable problems, and then another gorbachev will come to power, or even... let alone yeltsin, who woke up in the morning and asked what the did for ukraine, or the taliban, as in afghanistan, that is why they believe so, we all believe, well, most of our politicians, that this is a mistake, that there are no red lines, that russia must now be defeated on the battlefield in ukraine, on ukrainian territory and by this to ignite this fascist contagion forever, because putin will not survive the defeat in ukraine, the americans... directly write in their main publications foreign affairs, we have to wait until putin dies and only then will changes be possible, because we cannot defeat him by military means. for a superpower, for a superpower, for a world gendarme, this is, well, to be honest, if it's milder, i'll put it bluntly, a shameful position,

especially since it is paid for with the blood of our soldiers, so in this situation, let's say, different approaches of the west and ukraine in... victory strategies are obvious, but this does not mean that we should be rude or fool our allies, because i am sorry, we are alive here for these 2.5 years only because the americans came to our aid literally in the first month of the war, and most of the weapons, and most money in our budget is theirs, so we should be grateful to them, the other question is that we would like more, it is true, but here the question arises from their side, what is your strategy, what exactly should you do, because in order to to even become a member of nato, you have to stop hostilities, because it is not accepted country, well, with military actions to to . it can be accepted on this territory, but without the territory that is currently under occupation,

see how the example of germany shows, i once told you about this in my own way, 2/3 of germany joined nato, and after 50 years, 1/3 of the soviet... and colony of the gdr broke through the wall and asked to go there to the zone of safety, wealth and tolerance, democracy, in this case there is such a scenario, but look, only the president who owns the whole can tell you this totality of information about our resources, about external resources, about challenges, about everything else, but what is our problem, the problem is, and why does the fair say that they will show us something? the problem is that volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi has both a plus and a minus, which are called the same. he is an artist. in the 22nd and part of the 23rd year, it saved us, because he was a wonderful speaker of the heroic ukrainian people and the heroic armed forces of ukraine. enabling army professionals

to do their thing. then he stood up again, wrote himself a script for a winning series. last series he personally, no one else. must go with the state flag to the state border in 1991, everyone who could have been close to him at the same time is removed from their positions, starting with the most senior, ending with syrskyi and budanov, and umerov as well, and to umerov, and in short, to the head of the ministry of foreign affairs, list as many as you want, all those who even a little bit people begin to recognize and value them for something, clean up from this. i know, because there must be one hero, the main character, and you will understand, all the others are fake, so with us there's no point in talking, we're just being told where to go, it's your job to go to the trenches, and your job is to applaud me, and your job is to praise me at the marathon, and your job is to pay money, and your job

is to push buttons in the parliament, and this politics series, one after another , which is not supported by general mobilization. in this case, i am not talking about the army, in general, about military mobilization, it is hitting us now, i dare to say that the main thing at the front is not the shortage of shells, although it is very large, it is not the shortage of... equipment, although it is very large , not a shortage of personnel due to the lack of implementation mobilization, not a shortage of fortifications, and not even a shortage of drones, the biggest lack of faith that the authorities in kyiv have a plan for victory and are counting on us, it seems to me that right now the moment is coming when the president should address the nation, as he appealed to the 22nd, to unite it, to explain his plan for victory, so that everyone, including such crit...oppositionists like me, and even his turbadours from the bank, were on the same page, because

we all want to win, because the elections will be held later, first you need to save the country, but unfortunately, look, there is such a formula: it is impossible to win both the war and the elections at the same time, and each leader chooses his turn, so it seems to me that president zelenskyi and his team first want to win another presidential election, and then somehow war, it means that he is... a statesman, and a political leader. we will now talk about the elections. i will remind our viewers that we conduct polls throughout our broadcast, we ask you whether you support the idea of ​​economic harrowing from mobilization? yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, write your own opinion in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv 0800 211 381 if you support the idea of ​​economic defense against mobilization? no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free. the british publication zaiconist writes about the prospect of holding presidential elections in ukraine

next year. what do the british write? despite the fact that this year all the major political parties agreed to postpone the elections until the end of the war, mr. zelenskyi is said to be considering the possibility of holding presidential elections next year in order to strengthen his power, the publication writes: you, yuri vitaliyovych, do you think zelenskyi will be able to hold... elections in the 25th year, there are such signals, week therefore, we received information that the election headquarters at the bank received a salary for the first time, to start preparations for the presidential election, so of course, well, like in any serious party, the election headquarters is not dissolved after the elections, but somehow it freezes to a minimum, at the moment when preparations for the election begin, it naturally begins to function, unfold and so on, well, our election headquarters

basically went against it, we have 25 party members now in the active army, and here we receive such information, then we see the cec's resolution about it’s not like that, there’s clarification of precincts so far, that is, it’s started, then one statement, then another, then we see a mass clearing of information... and recognizable figures who have at least some sort of rating, all this leads to the idea that something is being prepared, and from what we hear from the servants of the people, from employees of the president's office, only presidential elections are planned, no other elections, neither parliamentary nor local, why, this has been known for a long time, we talked about it many times when the question was whether the president is legitimate, yes, he is legitimate, but not because , that his elections, that is, while the war is going on, he... er, performs the powers of the president, parliamentary elections during wartime are prohibited

by the constitution, but presidential elections are not prohibited by the constitution, they are prohibited only by the special time law, er, and i always said that what's the difference, it's all the same in wartime you can't, well, for example, divide the army into those who vote for one party and for the other, how will they go on the attack together tomorrow, that's brother... you can't poke at such problems, especially you can't force them to vote for someone who is ordered by the commander, and even worse if they are excluded from the process at all, although they also have such a strange idea, because what to do with 8 million people abroad, what to do with the voter lists anyway, can you imagine how many displaced people from the east of ukraine and from the center to the west and where, where to look for them, who will control them, there are many questions, but this is all technique. i return to this thesis again: a statesman thinks how to win a war even at the cost of his

rating, as the same cherchyn, who is so loved in banking, did in his time, and a politician thinks how to win the presidential election, including at the cost of territorial concessions in of ukraine. i am afraid that there is not just an election ahead, but a referendum on neutral status. of ukraine, as a condition for ending the war from putin, combined with the presidential elections. all this will be packed i really want to be wrong, but it looks a lot like it. about the fact that nato is facing impossible tasks, not because ukraine cannot be accepted into nato, because it cannot be done in a month or two. and now nato accepts us, give us such and such a list of weapons in such and such quantity, give us such and such money, if you do not give us, then you have abandoned us, and therefore we are forced to go, taking care

of the people, of course, to negotiations, to in the negotiations, we hear the demand for a neutral status. and neutral status is a referendum, which means a ceasefire is necessary, which means not the continuation of martial law, which means a referendum with a simultaneous presidential election, such a scenario is now widely debated in political circles, but what about the constitution where it is written that we are joining nato? yes, there is a referendum to change the constitution, i am talking about it, a referendum to change the constitution in combination with the presidential elections, that is, there is a candidate and his course, that is, serhiy, honestly, we will not accept it. everything is being discussed about it, but i have faces in front of my eyes, words in my ears, but i won’t repeat them here, what they say about it at the front, they all they feel that the politicians started some kind of maneuvers, but there is simply no place for such maneuvers in their lives, so i consider

it completely unacceptable and irresponsible to organize any sort of elections. well, to me, as a person who is there, not that the opposition, god had mercy without any mandates and everything else, well, it would seem, it would be interesting, no, it is categorically not interesting, because i believe that now any political campaign will weaken ukraine, we need it now, well, split ukraine, we now need to unite and strengthen ukraine, and that is why i am in favor of president zelenskyi, for whom i did not vote, who, as you may have noticed, i strongly criticize for... remained in his position and began to talk to his people as adults, as the main actors in order to go to victory together, and don't play political reboot, well, personally. thank you, yuriy vitalivych, it was yuriy lutsenko, a politician, the former

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the numbers 0800 211 381 yes, no 0800 211 382, ​​no, and all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. so, as i already said, today we have a journalism club, i want to introduce the ... of our studio today, this is larisa voloshina, journalist, political psychologist. mrs. larisa, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast, and yanina sokolova, journalist, tv presenter, social activist, blogger, youtube channel author, millionaire, or already over a million subscribers, subscribe if you are not already subscribed, yanina , i also congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast, congratulations to larisa, congratulations to sergey, congratulations to all the viewers, well, larisa yanina, since we are asking... our viewers and tv viewers whether they think the idea of ​​economic defense against mobilization is appropriate , give in the format flash poll, let's share your thoughts, what

do you think about this, let's start with yanin, please, this is a mixed story, given that you and i are faced with a lot of corruption schemes every day, and today is just an enchanting story, with two at once corruptors, corruption... moneylenders who made millions of dollars, now we already know that these are millions, not one and not two, millions of dollars for the fact that, well, approximately we counted about 30 thousand people, these are just a few cases for today , and avoided mobilization, with the help of the money they paid to people who helped them evade mobilization with the help of this fake medical commission. so the question arises whether this money could go to the state, and it would be appropriate, but on the other hand, as a person who communicates with the military every day, patronizes

the families of the military, takes care of them in the hospital, i understand that this is a story of injustice , when there is an option, when people have money, for this money they avoid the opportunity, chance, honor to defend the state. so this story is not clear cut i guess it is necessary to ask about this not from civilians, but from the military, and their opinion, i think, will be fair as an answer to this. thank you, yanina, larisa, i have a question for you, i know that your relatives are at the front, and obviously you know their position, but i would like to know your personal position on the feasibility of economy booking? well, here's an attempt, the situation here is that when we talk about the whole... this situation, i very much agree with yanina that it is ambiguous, it is precisely about those who evade not only registration, we are not talking about

people who have to go directly to the front tomorrow, no, they did not register, they did not comply with the law and the constitution, but at the same time, in this law, as far as i understand, we are talking about the fact that it is necessary to confirm the salary, that is, these people work somewhere, receive a salary, show minimally or do not show at all. which simply do not pay taxes, that is, they evade everything in general, which is the survival of a modern state, and it is very unfortunate that we have to resort to such steps in order to force people to pay taxes and fulfill the requirements of the law in such a period, of course, it is a humiliation for the military, at the same time we have, that is , they understand that they are superfluous in this country, that they have been counted on, this is how it sounds in the trenches . this is very bad bad talk, again we see that at the same time the question is whether there will be economic demobilization, because many people who serve had a legal salary.

than now they ask to show and always paid taxes and paid taxes and went to war, that is, they are responsible citizens. unfortunately, we still have to decide what to do with this legal nihilism that has been raging in our country for many decades, and because it does not happen that only citizens build the country, pay taxes, monitor political processes , followed officials, prevented corruption, i.e. went to rallies, and... others simply consumed their lives, because the reality now is that some citizens in our country, this immoral majority, consume the lives, in fact, they already directly, of others responsible citizens, it's simple, well, it's already shameful. thank you, larisa, serhiy, i can say two words about this, i remember how four months ago one of my friends, a soldier who was in captivity, an azov, was in captivity, and...

the extraction procedures were over, he in terrible condition with 60% body burns, was in captivity, rotting there in the donetsk hospital, after which he was exchanged, he rehabilitated as best he could and went to fight again, and then the fpv drone hit the landing where they were defending our country, and he lies in the hospital, he was transferred to kyiv, from the dnipro, i am coming to him, and this is a man with injuries that, well, he thought were unlikely. will they give him the opportunity to move his arms, because everything was just crushed there, and i go into the intensive care unit, and he is lying there alone and says to me, mrs. yanina, you see how it is, this war is for the poor, those who cannot afford to evade , who does not have the opportunity to take care of himself in various cases of life and of my family, this guy has a pregnant wife who will give birth here, they will not have the opportunity to do something in life...

to somehow move on and move the country go ahead, because we are just poor, - he said, a guy from the kherson region, these were the first words he used to meet me, he met me in the intensive care unit, it was you, so that you could understand the opinion, it is clear that this is not representative, and some military personnel who sacrifice to everyone, having been in hell more than once or twice, but they go, fight and protect, well, those monsters that i just now went on the air, hurried, yes, all the restaurants of kyiv are filled with men. athletic physiques that are impossible to get into and they are all dodgers i suspect, is that fair, well the actual question, you already mentioned, yanina, about this episode, or rather, about two episodes, one of them happened in khmelnytskyi, where the state bureau of investigation today exposed the head of the khmelnytskyi regional center for medical and social expertise msek and a member of

the regional council from the sluga party. of the people tetiana kropa and her son oleksandr kropa for illegal enrichment. during the searches, they found almost 6 million dollars in cash in various currencies. law enforcement officers are investigating the case of illegal registration of disability for men, who are trying to avoid military service. among what this lady and her son have is real estate both in khmelnytskyi and abroad, accounts abroad. well, that is, quite large sums were circulating in this family, and here a completely logical question arises, here is larisa, in khmelnytskyi, which is small by european standards in a small town, no one knew who tetyana krupa was, and if she had such a the turnover of money is huge, it is clear that many people communicated with her, solved these issues regarding

the disabled. it is clear that the special services had it can also be seen, because she kept a hotel there in khmelnytskyi, that is, she did not live on her salary, and it was visible, nine cars, well, that is, a very wealthy family, and apparently this family was somehow embedded in the system that apparently operates in our country, and we are talking about billions of dollars, just billions of dollars, that are now spinning in this shadow business, illegal business regarding. removing conscripts from service in the armed forces of ukraine, what is this episode talking about, have they stopped to arrange this whole system that they were with, that they were incorporated into, or was it just a case of randomly picking one person to show another woman.