but such a turnover of money is huge, it is clear that many people communicated with her, resolved these issues regarding disability, it is clear that the special services should also have seen this, because she kept a hotel there in khmelnytskyi, that is, she did not live on her salary, and it was you can see, nine cars, well, that is, a very wealthy family, and apparently this family was somehow embedded in the system that is apparently operating in our country, and we are talking about billions of dollars, just about ... dollars that are now spinning in this shadow business, illegal business, regarding exoneration of conscripts from service in the armed forces of ukraine. what, that's what this episode is about, is that they stopped fitting this whole system that they were with, that they were incorporated into, or is it just a case of randomly picking one person to show another. they took in

kharkiv there and she also solved the issue for $29,000, and did she also provide any services there regarding how to avoid mobilization? well, the thing is that all these things we talk about are massive, and we have to understand that this is not the systemic corruption of yanukovych's time, where every official, or there is a police officer , goes out and we know that he has an order, how much he has... dinner is brought to the boss, the boss folds it into a box, and the box folds into a suitcase and all this goes to the first office. no, we are talking about the fact that this situation has led to the fact that this morality, this is, you know, the moral degradation of society, it is everywhere, so in this case no one sees a problem for themselves, to take part or commit a crime, because as we live for the last time, these are all such marauders, they are actually such... well,

not even marauders, i don't know, they are some kind of corpse eaters, that's what it should be called, the country is dying, the country is fighting for its life, but these people are gnawing at her like a jackal, because there is an important point here, those who brought this madam money, according to our law, are the same criminals, giving a bribe and taking a bribe, this bribe, we have the same crime, let's remember this situation, the scandal around the attempt of one of the... it is a crime, each of those who brought madam money, the same criminal as her, but look, if we look at the public publicity of all these things, everyone says that the poor cherry trees and the bad state, and the corrupt, so these military commissars and doctors, they are elected, no , they once... committed a criminal scheme, each of them, as

a result, it costs the lives of people who are on the front lines for the third year, this is a crime not against some state, you, me, it is a crime against specific people who have been fighting for three years, not the same civilian people who still have a civilian profession released, everyone who was mobilized in the first days is still listed, you know, and you have such people on the channel, they are civilians, they are not professional soldiers, they do not have contracts. they fulfilled the law on mobilization, and now they are dragging this law, being mobilized, because they found other excuses for themselves, schemes and everything else, they committed a criminal scheme, well, a conspiracy actually against them, against their families, so we have to talk about the fact that this whole system is criminal, and we have to understand that to fight this, this condemnation, that wai-wai-wai, how about you, how about you, how about you it's a shame, you can't, we have someone nearby. countries that

live in total mobilization, for example, the same israel, somehow there is such a mass in every village and city, this does not happen, we see countries in which, for example, non-payment of taxes is a federal crime, and it does not happen massively there either , that you have millions of people sitting at home, who have the opportunity to pay a reservation of 20 thousand and above, that is, they are not the last, they have to show their salary for such a tax, well, at least 1050, and even 100 salary. they get, and it turns out, on today's moment, they receive this money, but it does not exist for the tax office, for the state, that is, they steal, that's it, it's so much, when we talk about corruption in our country, we must realize the scale, that the war, the trials with which the country and part of the country collided, part of the citizens are behaving decently and responsibly, led to the fact that a huge layer of people, just huge, is not ashamed of anything anymore, and it is so massive that i am planting... one aunt, you

can't handle it, laws must be changed and must be finally, to make the justice that we are talking about really exist, no, we must have it, all of it, well, all of it. enforcement of the law, thank you, larisa, yanina, well, we see these examples, they are not isolated, we remember how two military commissars from boryspil and buchi took a million dollars each, they had an odesa military commissar there, i think what is this, well, this is the tip of the iceberg, because the whole system, it is built in such a way that this big shadow business, it flourishes in ukraine, there are people who pay this money, there are people... who go abroad, according to preliminary data , somewhere around 600,000 conscripted men left due to impunity, impunity gives rise to further attempts to do this, after the situation with the odessa warlord, this was probably the first large-scale wave of corruption

that swept from the sea and throughout ukraine, many communities, many representatives of civil society we talked about it, we shared the video. i saw him everywhere, this gentleman, there was a riot, and there were still several divisions with smaller volumes of corruption schemes, but the system did not change. odarchenko, about whom you mentioned today when there was a restraining order and he paid money to avoid being jailed. the next day, deputy odarchenko appeared in the walls of the verkhovna rada. is it there? a signal for other sections of society, including for the msec, for various other divisions, which in particular deal with the issues of issuing these fake documents to petitioners, that everything can be solved, it is clear that it is, whether there was a statement from the president, whether

there was a statement from the sbi, whether they were investigated these crimes in such a way that others are afraid and do not do it? no, that gentleman who was lying on video with money, by the way, a remarkable story that 500 thousand euros, friends, so you understand, during the search, they remembered that they still had this money, and they threw it over the balcony in two bags, stuffed with money, 500 thousand euros thrown over the balcony to khmelnytskyi, and this gentleman who is lying on your screens now, he is the roommate of this lady, they do not feel... any threat to their system of existence, to them as people, above all, when this threat will be and when the legislation , which we have, in principle everything is written quite correctly, but nothing is being done, nothing is to blame, nothing

is being done, civil society is ours, it is committing violence, but for the authorities it is just violence, which is me, but you and i are sitting now on friday, we are all alone for several days. they will forget about it, there will be a preventive measure removed from the performance of duties, but believe me, another link will be found, this is what happens to almost all the people involved in our investigations, which concern, for example, tenders, sergey, all the people involved in our investigations about tenders, you will laugh , friends, they are new win the tenders, but today people wrote to me to whom these owners owe money, you ca n't call them the owners otherwise. this monopoly on tenders in the kyiv region had contractors, today they wrote to me from the road alliance that these people are getting new tenders, and they did not pay for the previous ones, but simply disappeared somewhere. we write, apply to anti-corruption bodies - zero. impunity in our country has reached

the scale of immorality . is happening in vygledar, against the background of the fact that the commanders of... different brigades, the famous brigades that keep the ugledars, end, end their lives by suicide, as it happened literally on october 2, just sur, impunity is my only answer, if there is this is the will of the top, this will not be done at the bottom, but yes, the will to steal, or rather, as it is permission to steal, and believe me, these same people are not alone, you rightly remarked today, serhiy, this woman in khmelnytskyi, and, there was a whole line of people next to her, and i think that the road to kyiv proves who were on interest from all these schemes, i just guarantee you, they were all on interest, that’s why they were interested, well, you

who evade, our country is heterogeneous, and in every region there will be people who can pay 29 thousand to evade. the question is whether they will be allowed to do it or not, we are quarreling with the poles and their police, who are cruel to people who violate some minimum traffic rules there. traffic and pay for it there 600 zlotys for a minimal violation, then it is impossible for them, it is impossible, not because they are evil, but because there is a law that should be followed, what to do with it, sergey, larisa, and our viewers, i cannot give you an answer, for this there must be a public contract and marginalization of such characters, we have it, forgive me, friends, but we don't have it, we don't have it, thank you, yanina, i hope that sooner or later there will be such a contract. public and this issue will also be resolved. i would like to remind our viewers that throughout our broadcast

we will conduct a survey, we ask you the following: about this do you support the idea of ​​economic protection against mobilization? yes, no, if you are on youtube, then everything is quite simple, either yes or no, you can leave your own comment in the comments below this video. if you're watching us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on 0800 211 381 if you support the idea of ​​economy armor. no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. another topic is postponed presentation of zelenskyi's victory plan. yarmak promised that he would show the ukrainians or tell the ukrainians about this victory plan that zelensky presented in the united states of america, as the president himself said while talking to the new nato secretary. mark rutte, one of the elements of the victory plan is geopolitical

certainty. let's listen to what zelensky said. in particular, part of the plan is geopolitical determination, i.e. the decision regarding ukraine's place in the european and global security architecture. moscow must receive a clear signal that it is guaranteed security for ukraine. and the whole of europe is irreversible, as is the independent right of every democratic nation in europe to determine its own future. well, this is zelensky's position. larisa, there is a lot of talk about the fact that the plan needs to be shown to the ukrainians, there is no need to talk about the political part, not to talk about the specification of weapons, which is obvious in this plan, and maybe... should, well, no one can say for sure, what exactly is in this plan, do you understand what kind of plan zelenskyi has, and

will it not be the case that both zelenskyi and yarmak present this victory plan, we will say, and we guessed all about it, that we knew that there are several points, in principle, and the main point is that ukraine must defeat russia. listen, this story, this discussion, when we will see the plan, and where is the plan, amuses me. to be honest, because i think that this is exactly what, you know, what, pr caught up with, because, well, obviously, we have already seen, in fact, the foreign press wrote, by the way, also with such a thing and was not impressed, they say, western american officials looked, were not impressed, and they clearly laid out these four points, obvious points that guarantees to ukraine like nato, that is, well, logically, ukraine should receive weapons, in other opsics, it should be guaranteed supplies of weapons, other opsics, other nomenclature, more modern, also

logically, and apparently the third point was still there, they talked about the need for economic infusion into the economy and everything else, well, obviously, sanctions, strengthening of sanctions against russia and its partners, that is, everything is clear, all these four points were written, but first of all americans it for some reason i was not impressed, i want to... you will understand, what did they expect to see in what, what is the name of the victory plan, what are we writing there, it means that we left in combat gap and moscow in three days, and we do not need anything, pray for us, that is, what are they, what will impress them, that is, the obvious things that ukraine constantly talks about, by the way, it does not receive, because in fact, when these 50 countries were shown to us, they gave us security guarantees about nothing, at all, even they were not ratified by the parliament.

all this is obvious, that is, zelensky is coming to a meeting with biden, who is going to a meeting with the candidates who will come, one of them will definitely be the president, talks about... the same points that ukraine has been constantly voicing since the first days, not only the president, and zuluzhny wrote in his well-known articles, precisely about this, weapons, other nomenclature, we all talked about it. well, he says this, but for some reason it was called pathetic, a plan for victory, some secret breakthrough, and now half the world and most importantly ukraine are sitting, waiting, it will end, that's the problem, all this pathos ends disappointing, although in principle the points are not bad, and obviously we have to think about how we can get guarantees, how we can get better

weapons, with whom to conclude, that is, we have to discuss it. instead, we call all this, well, they love us there, big construction, big theft, they get into a beautiful pose, give out some slogans, and then it ends in a bust, here i am worried about it, which will end not only in the disappointment of society, but also in a bust, because when you present it in such a pathetic way, obviously a person looks logically, every point is logical correct, but he says: well, this is not a plan, this is not a decisive victory plan, and then you can simply not... well, it is obvious that zelenskyi and yarmak were not showing a map of the hostilities there, how, who will move, and this will lead to the plan, or to victory, it is clear that the main concept of the victory plan is the defeat of russia, i understand that this is a plan to defeat russia, they do not talk about it, but it is absolutely obvious, yanina, what are you

waiting for from this victory plan, do you also think that it is well... nicely wrapped up ot the action that is taking place now, the liberation of the territory of ukraine, the attempt to liberate the territory of ukraine, that this is an attempt to push the west to make a decision that ukraine will be, well, to the invitation of the western countries to nato, that this is an exit there to the borders of 1991 , well, such general things. political coercion of russia, that’s what the advisers, who have recently become almost the only speakers of zelensky’s various plans, called this plan, we actually talked about it on our youtube, well, what is known, and mainly the western press somehow highlights all kinds of various plans, negotiations, starting with

johnson, trump, there zelensky, johnson, then bild announced that this peace plan, which... proposed contains the issue of nato and contains an option where ukraine allegedly enters the conditional stage of minsk, where some area is frozen front, and there we will see, as they say in odessa in the office of the odessa military committee. i really don't have any hope for these peace plans, it seems to me that the peace summit and all these meetings are peaceful. this is another opportunity to communicate in a wide circle of our people partners, and the united states, and european countries, european leaders who gather in switzerland or anywhere to communicate. that is, in this way, we demonstrate through the media, albeit at great expense and effort, that we are ready for peace negotiations, but on our terms, which do not

change in view of the rhetoric we hear. in this peaceful plan, sergey, too. as we know, economically, it concerns increasing investments, zelensky's ukraine, through his mouth, and with this peaceful plan, encourages the west to invest in military production on the territory of ukraine, then the story is related to diplomatic pressure on russia, a separate page, they say that we need to work with countries of neutral status, zelenskyi announced that he said that it is fair that russia... is responsible for this war, and we should communicate with for those who have not yet fully understood who the russian federation actually is, and certainly the permission to strike deep into russian territory with western weapons, in particular the long-range weapons of the united states of america, all this is in this peace plan, there is nothing new there, i think, for us with you

the question of nato, this is a question of our desire, which has long been declared, written in the constitution, people... ukrainians have long expressed their desire, for the desire to join nato, this is not a subject of discussion in ukraine, and, unfortunately, it is not a subject of discussion , among our western partners, no one in nato, i have never heard, except for the baltic countries, does not see ukraine as a member of the north atlantic alliance at the moment, and there are a lot of different reasons for this, including fair ones, and about them we are also fragmented today... talked about, that's why i don't think that anything there will impress you, and that's probably why andriy yermak doesn't voice these theses to serhii, because, as leonid kuchma said, it already happened. the ukrainian people will say, well, these are my thoughts, yes, thank you, thank you, yanina, well, let's wait for this presentation, it has already been announced, then maybe they will do it, and if they don't do it, then we

will still insist that, well, that we saw, because this war is truly a people's war, and from the very beginning the great war became a people's war, and the people have the right to know, well, at least what are there, what kind of documents did zelenskyi take to the united states of america, another topic... is quite important, but it came from a british publication for an economist about the fact that the elections of the 25th year will be held in ukraine, these are presidential elections, although the deputy head of the president's office viktor mykyta in a comment to the news agency denied the information that his last meeting with the heads of the regional organizations of the servants of the people was devoted to the elections. viktor mykyta said that the issue of elections is not on the agenda of the country's regional politics, just now. question defense, security and strengthening the ability of the regions to resist the consequences of russia's armed aggression. larisa, in spite of everything, i am

not 100% sure that there will be no elections in the 25th year, that is, no one is certain, because everyone, they told us two days before the release of the brave man, that we all, therefore, are panicking and fake guns, and that never happened, and then once, well, that is, here you don’t know it, like trump. when he says something, or putin, well, you’re there, that is, it’s not the same thing as a strangler, the problem is something else, here we are now we heard something very interesting, you know, again such a casuistry, there is no question in regional politics, listen, well, maybe in the regional, maybe you are not going to elect all councils, but what about the president and the council, you will tell us about it, well, that is, every time we we find some excuses, some hints, the problem is that in reality. where it all started, it's not just an economist, it became known that the cec is carrying out certain measures, which means reconciliation of polling stations, regarding the reconciliation of polling

stations, and that's where the question arose, and that's why everyone was shocked, because the economist is writing to himself, let him write, they have been writing this for two years, but here is the question, and what is the problem in fact, that if any elections, well, if we are talking about the central elections of the president and the parliament, it is in principle again, the continuation of the separation of the army from the life of the country, here you go, here you die there, and here we dance the polka butterfly, gather peace summits, we are going, as long as you are there, you hold on, we pray for you, we elected we spend, because you can't, they don't just tell us, we give let them vote for the military, no, no, my friends, there are so many worthy people, i want to see you in the parliament, what you tell me, that you will give the military to throw bullies. he has to go to the parliament, he has, he has the right, how many people are there, for example, who are the freedom party in full force, azov, it is obvious that azov will leave the party, you, people, while they are fighting,

they cannot to swamp, you hold elections to push them away again, to forget about them simply as a phenomenon, and to reign quietly here while they stand on the front lines and they can't, and they won't leave there, they will stand until the end, well, how can that be, well, that is, this is some kind of blasphemy. that's what worries me, and in fact everyone agrees to this, everyone wants, some want to be re-elected, to come to power, others want to be re-elected, until a situation happened, somewhere the army will return and finally become a political subject, an economic subject, politically, because neither you nor i, no one doubts that those who are sitting in the trenches today, they will come out, they will have companies, they will ask questions, yes, where i served, i didn’t serve, go for a walk, he goes there to the labor exchange, that is, they... will hire those who serve, well, that is, it will be a brotherhood, and it will change the country a lot, and now they are increasingly being forgotten about them, when they write laws, they forget about them, when they run after

dodgers, they forget about them, when they dance with these dodgers, they are forgotten about in peace plans, because i don't want to know how he is going there, that he has a peace plan, i want to understand , how are you going to replenish the army, how are you going to release people, civilians who have to rest, how are you going to make reserves, what are you telling me, what are you? you want money, tell me how you are going, that is, how we don't hear, and here we are, but we hear about the elections, we always hear, that's what it is, it's contempt again, it's just stratification of society again, where patriots separately, and let them fight for their own ukraine over there, while we do our business here, that's how it is, thank you, larisa, yanina, what do you think about the elections, will they be held or not, do you think? and are there any signs that zelensky needs elections in the 25th year, because the further it is, the less chance he will have to move, just

like that, and he really needs presidential elections. the election is very necessary, because it will make history, his reign, and the further the numbers will be, the smaller the numbers will be, and according to the estimates even now of these sociological polls, which i trust, zelenskyy will win them for now in any case, well at least according to the polls it is reasonable and everything else, that is, now he will win these elections and they will they know about it and... look at the important point, everyone, everyone who could apply for the position of president, participating in the elections, zelensky has already, at least in the media, removed from the possibility of having some kind of platform for statements, leaving social networks, well, you understand , now about whom i am speaking before everyone, but, but it is so, and they continue to do it as much as possible,

the system in general... to leave or not to leave people in power in ministerial positions or in the general staff, those who can somehow claim to votes and for the election positive interest and reputation of civil society, you haven't seen them for a long time, i won't even tell you the name, but i will say that even some spokesmen of some forces have been removed from office for this very reason, because of the high trust of civil society. about the elections globally, listen, republicans, these are fantasies now, what i'm saying are thoughts, variations, it's unknown whether it will be like that. republicans at one time said that when trump comes to power and wins the presidential election, what too, it is clear that not exactly, and we see kamala garis gaining momentum, her numbers are growing, and even in such states where everything was not clear. was

already on the verge kamela is ahead, however , the republicans have articulated this more than once, and they already know zelensky's position, they know what he is ready to go to, what he is not ready for, so in principle it would also be good for them to hold elections, and they did not talk about it once, i emphasize, more than once in private conversations with me when i flew to the united states, and publicly, so this is a story that they can show, demonstrate to society how... our western partners to still hold elections and stop martial law there for a while, however, in my opinion, in my opinion, the military, as larisa said, who will not be able to vote now, but i would also very much like to see of many soldiers, and the third stormy, and azov, there really are there, larisa, she is right, people who are not just glorious, historical commanders, voya... but

people who can contribute their part to the reform and the troops, including and our army needs reform, this is history with mobilization proved, thank you yanina, we have to finish the program, thank you for participating in the program, yanina sokolova and larisa volushyna were guests of our program today, let me remind you that during our entire program, please have your book, let me show the audience, whether it is visible or not, the book, i want you to... buy and read. anatomy of hate by serhii rudenko, a very cool book about how putin devoted a large part of his life to destroying us, and he failed. thank you, yanina, for the unexpected gift on the air. thank you. let me remind you that throughout our broadcast we spent survey, we asked you friends about this, do you support the idea of ​​economic reservation from mobilization? 19% yes, 81% no, these are the results of a television poll.

this is my status. period, it was a program of verdicts of privy.