enough to say, well, i don't know, you think that only the face, maybe it's just that he always calculates that some missiles, they will reach the target, well, 181 missiles, that's sorry, it's not, there is another point of view that this strike there was someone who was supposed to hold a certain demonstration, you know, it seems to me that this is a conspiracy, well, again, well, you and i live in a country that you... are attacked by ballistic missiles all the time, not all of them either hit the target, is it a demonstration from the russian side, or do they still want to get somewhere? well, in our case , after all, a large number of missiles reach the target, this is true, because we have a different anti-aircraft system, that is, in your opinion, after all, the goal of iran was to hit some specific objects, of course, military objects of israel for sure they just didn't succeed. but that doesn't mean, first of all, that it's

the last blow, and it doesn't mean that they didn't want to, because this whole idea that these blows are given for beauty is a very strange idea, well, imagine, you i'm talahameni, you can imagine, you understand that israel can hit bunkers, you don't feel safe in principle, because you are the very leader of the state who wants to destroy israel, israel has nothing to lose with you, if you are killed, it will be this is your lesson. he is then told that he should be a bit more careful with israel because he will end up like you, it is clear that you are an elderly person, you are already preparing to meet allah, you can put everything on the line, but you know, as a rule dictator, they want to live, not meet allah before their real time comes, so here is the story, of course you want to show israel that you are strong, or you should be feared, and not want to be eliminated, are you not some kind of bastard, by the way, you know that the ayatollah

he convinced khamaniya to leave hassan nasrallah. yes, and nasrallah was sure that nothing like that would happen, that israel could not destroy him, that this was a violation of the rules of the game. and israel was able to. do you understand? what do you think will be israel's response to him. i think that it will be such a complicated thing. it will be related to how. the situation will develop now in the relations between israel and the united states, to what extent benjamin netanyahu is ready for a confrontation with joseph biden on the eve of the us presidential elections, because this question is not about biden, it is about harris and about the future relations between israel and washington, because netanyahu still understands, that not necessarily only trump can win, he would of course be more comfortable that trump won, but he sees reality as we all see it. i'm

asking another question here, actually the context of what is happening in the middle east, it is important for the united states of america, and for the elections in the united states. this is what is happening now, conditionally in the triangle, iran, israel and lebanon, who benefits more, trump or haris? well, rather trump, it's hard, it's hard to say, you know, from one. on the one hand, it benefits trump, who accuses democracies of indecisiveness, on the other hand, the democratic electorate, there are a lot of people who believe that israel is using excessive force, and they may believe that if they vote for democrats, then the united states will continue this policy, and if trump becomes president, well, then israel will generally feel much more confident in the middle east, that is, both sides are playing. their electorate,

on the other hand, biden, harris, they support israel in destroying the shit, and thus do not forget about that electorate that sympathizes with israel in their own party, they just have to, well, how to say it, maneuver, trump does not have of the need to maneuver, and his supporters say that biden wants to restrain israel, but israel is actually on... the threshold of a new holocaust, and there are already other people who believe that israel itself is destroying the palestinians and lebanese and is acting completely disproportionately when, trying to destroy terrorists, it reduces the civilian population in both gaza and lebanon. to think like that, you understand, that is, it is not known how much it increases trump's electorate, it simply convinces trump's electorate of the correctness of trump's position, well, conditionally, trump's position, just like on ukraine, is that... look,

the third world war is starting, or what look, because i am not the president, there are wars in the world, this is his main message, his main concept. maybe not even about who he supports, but maybe even about what, look, only i will become president, all wars will end, ukraine will end, israel will end, lebanon will be at peace, and there will be completely different approaches, in ukraine will end because he will agree with putin, it will end in israel, then in the middle east, because he will not, yes, yes, yes, there is a completely different vision, no will stop netanyahu, and then israel will achieve final victory. and again, in both of these cases, i don't really understand where this approach comes from, you understand, in both cases, the war in the middle east will be tomorrow, the day after tomorrow will be a year, remember november 7, october 7, 2023, which of

the experts who were involved in the near east said that it would last a year, when someone said, i remember saying that it could be about... a few months, because there is no political solution, everyone was looking at me very skeptical, what a few months, and they will simply agree at some point about the hostages, about all this, the situation right there, you understand how the situation in the middle east is similar to the situation in ukraine, with the fact that there is no political solution here, so realistically speaking , we talk a lot about israel and its reaction, but there is hamas, which has its own base. and there are supporters of hamas all over europe and america, who say something: palestine from the river to the sea, palestine from the river to the sea, this is palestine over there from jordan to the mediterranean sea, this slogan does not imply the existence of a jewish state, that is, many

can say that the solution to the situation is that there should be two states on the territory of the former mandated palestine, but palestine itself. arabs don't want it, if they wanted it, they would n't vote for hamas, if they wanted it, they would most likely give their votes to fatah there, and now maybe there was already this second state, but we have a lot we are talking about the mood that existed in the palestinian environment after the signing of the vosla agreements and after yasser arafat returned to romela as the head of this palestinian authority, claiming to be. person of the palestinian state, and in fact his return was connected with the first palestinian intifada, but what did arafat meet in ramallah, a person who had not been in the palestinian environment for a very long time, who led an émigré organization, he saw

a radicalized society, he saw a society that basically told him, sorry, but we absolutely do not want to negotiate with israel, your task is to force israel to make more and more concessions, and these concessions should weaken it. so that we could destroy him, and arafat, of course, as a man who wanted to get power, became radicalized along with this society that he now led, because it's one thing when you're running a migrant organization where you can make different decision, but another matter when you are forced to reckon with the mood of society, which says: let's destroy them all, let's here and here for an example...yesterday i was at the lviv book forum, there was a discussion that was related to how the war in israel is reflected in the war in ukraine, after this discussion, some person who was there was, she opened a book, well, with

the palestinian flag, and this question is not about the flag, i believe that people who are supporters of palestinian statehood there, they have the right to express their... positions in civilized forms, but this book was called a return to haifa, to haifa, not to ramallah, not to hebron with bethlehem, to haifa, i immediately remembered my fellow student in the journalism department of the gas sector, who told me that i want to live in tel aviv, in which there will not be a single jew, ugh, and this person was not an islamist radical, this was a person who was a member of the palestinian komsamol, a completely secular person, from my point of view this person ... should not have paid any attention to the nationality of those with whom she wanted to live, she should have been, she would have liked to live with the working class, it is true, but he had no idea of ​​the working class , he had an idea that there is the palestinian working class, and the jewish working class has nowhere to go, so there is no political solution here, because

israel has always had the idea that if it reaches an agreement with the arab world, it will guarantee israel peace. existence, now the question is the following: the arab world has basically reached an understanding, practically all arab countries are calm about the existence of israel. "when hassan nasrallah was killed, i read in the lebanese media interviews with lebanese, shiites in different countries of the world, and here is a lebanese woman who lives in new york, she says, i went to a restaurant, we all cried there, our beloved shit died, we were all worried, people from new york came to this restaurant, an accident. said, we have to make everything look good here, we have to rejoice, if we only show our sorrow, we

will simply be expelled from saudi arabia as facilitators of terrorism, and so in many arab countries it turns out that supporters of radicalism, anti-semitism, the destruction of the jewish people can it is great to feel in the united states of america or in france, in the democratic world, and in saudi arabia or other countries, they simply deport them, or they will go to prisons as terrorists, m'. also because saudi arabia considers its own shiite minority a danger to its own statehood. here is the answer to your question, it means that it turns out that everything is solved with the arabs, but there is an unresolved palestinian problem that no one understands how to solve, because if they want to destroy you, if the population that lives in this territory wants to live in your , then how do you solve this problem, it's like between the russians and ukrainians, if the russians believe that ukraine is russia, you can at least... fight the wall, you won't convince them, well, there is no political solution, it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, it's the same here,

so if these people have support in iran , today the key is iran, let's imagine that the islamist regime in iran, this islamic steocracy is destroyed, that a democratic state appears there, this state will not support israel in the palestinian issue, it will demand the creation of a palestinian state, but in no will give money to radical palestinian groups, and it will not try to destroy lebanese statehood, as iran is doing now, because in fact, we understand that lebanon is a state that does not function precisely because of the efforts of iran and its proxy forces on the territory lebanon. we just have to explain to the audience that lebanon is a multinational state, i have many christians and sunnis, er, er, ... friends, and in fact, these people are completely hostages of the shia community, which is not

the majority, which is 25 -30% of the population, and these people don't let him elect a president, don't let him form a government, they don't call bombs and rockets on their heads, they fight with israel, their army is larger than the army of lebanon, which is not at war with israel, that 's the reality, so , of course, if you get rid of these... people with money, and not just walkie-talkies and pagers, then in principle you create a certain basis for radicalism, armed, financed, but you still do not solve the problems, you need, for several generations to grow up the palestinian arabs, who will say, we are not going to achieve this by force, we have to accept that the jewish state will exist, we need to somehow create a state where we still are. and the capital there in ramal or there in gaza, and to develop this state. we don't like that

jews live in tel aviv, haifa, jerusalem, we don't like it, but we can't do anything about it, and we have to, and we don't have the money to get all this, and this is a question 25, 30, 40 years after the disappearance of the source of funding, the same applies to russian-ukrainian war, we need... we need generations of people who will say, oh, you know, we understood that ukraine is not russia, such people will not appear, but we need some generations of people to appear , who will say that we cannot conquer this territory, so this is historical russia, so kyiv, kharkiv, odessa, and even lviv, well, these are russian cities, so russians live there who do not even understand that they are russians, yes, instead of to speak the beautiful, pure russian language of pushkin and putin, these people... speak surzhik of his peasant poets. it's terrible, but we can't do anything, because if

we try to restore historical justice, and they are in nato, there will be a third world war and the same thing that will depend on moscow will remain the same as on this missile test from armata. oh, it's unpleasant, and so we will live next to them, they will think, maybe when the situation changes, and they will kill us after all, and we will know that... they do not have such opportunities, that's all, that's it this is a real way out for ukrainians and jews in the 21st century century, i don't know what will happen in the 22nd, i can't predict for so long, but in the 21st century... i promise these two peoples just coexistence with their neighbors, who will slowly get used to the idea that they cannot to be killed at night, such a fate, different peoples have different fates, well, ukrainians and jews have such a fate, jews are not used to it, so i am completely calm about it, ukrainians in such a situation, in principle, think that they were not there, although during the famine they were, they

were, they just did not have, there was no awareness of such a fate, it seems to me that there were already at least several hundreds. well, well, that is, the simple question is that this historical memory was stolen from us, by the same holodomors and all, i mean, not from the point of view of facts, but from the point of view of self-awareness, yes, yes , yes, well, now this ukrainian self-awareness is born, with which, say, the jews have lived since the time of the bar kogba uprising and this, why the main myth of the jews, which is very jewish and is not shared by other peoples who do not perceive the jews in this way, is the myth of the fortress of masada, how it was stormed the romans, all its defenders committed suicide in order not to fall into the hands of the invaders, this is the main jewish national myth, and not at all a myth about how we created the theory of relativity there, or how we created a wonderful bank there, that's all good, but this is not an achievement, but the main thing is

the mossad, every person who is there in israel and has some kind of jewish national consciousness, they... go to jerusalem to see this place of national self-sacrifice, well, ukrainians now have many such mythological things are already appearing, you see, because when the people feel threatened, they begin to live in the atmosphere of these myths, so they become a people of warriors, as they understand what they, what they sacrifice for the sake of freedom, if we go back to the current situation, israel is essentially preparing for some kind of response, what is it from... the answer, no one knows, no one knows, except for israel itself, except for the military-political leadership. in your opinion, what answer would be the most optimal from the point of view of not, as they say, falling out with the united states of america, and so that, conditionally saying, well, to respond, because israel

cannot help but respond to what happened, well, israel can believe that it is... in principle capable of destroying hezbollah itself and that it should now be engaged in the destruction of hezbollah, and by the way, in recent months, israel achieved the destruction of hezbollah such results that he did not achieve the destruction of hamas and everyone always said that hezbollah is a much stronger infrastructural organization than hamas, but hezbollah has such opportunities that hamas never had and this is the main thing. a tool of iran in the middle east, if only because indeed hezbollah controls the entire state, that hamas is a suicide army for iran, and hezbollah is a political infrastructure, this is very serious. well, what is the result? as a result, almost the entire military leadership of hezbollah is destroyed and political. the latest news was that after hassan nasrallah was killed,

a new israeli strike could come today. everything was learned before the death of hachem safieddin, the head of the hezbollah executive committee and the man who was considered the real heir to hassan nasrallah in the situation that developed after how it was eliminated, and by the way, you see, hezbollah was very careful after the death of nastral, because they understood that this was not the end of the story, that it was not about nastral, it was about destroying hezbollah as such. there is, and they did not fail the funeral by arrows, they were afraid even to bury him solemnly, because they believed that if they held a funeral, then the people who would be participants in this funeral would become targets for the israeli e special services, after that they, like us you and i understand that they

conspired even more seriously, and judging by the last one information... israel was able to hit hachem safeidin when this head of the hezbollah executive committee was holding a meeting with the leadership that remained, and perhaps not only he died, but many leading representatives of this terrorist organization, this is also absolutely real, it can be so to be, and in principle, i think that the situation here is absolutely realistic. that he died means that israel continues to destroy this organization, this whole story with pagers with walkie-talkies, it led to the fact that a huge number. well, that is, in fact, what does israel need? israel needs lebanon to regain its state structures and cease to be

a territory for hezbollah's experiments to destroy israel. now, in principle, if hezbollah ceases to be such a driving force, real opportunities have arisen for the election of a new president of lebanon. you know that the president has been gone for more than 600 days. and the government that is now acting on behalf of lebanon is such a temporary government, there is no legitimate government with real powers, so what does this mean in practice? in practice it is means that israel can continue to act in this direction to restore legitimacy to the lebanese state, to restore the ability of the lebanese armed forces to prove that iran will not do its thing again. it can be one strike, it can be a strike on some military, but not nuclear facilities of the islamic republic, that is, nuclear facilities are still ruled out, i do not rule them out, i

am thinking about how i would act, but i do not know, there including, it was not only about nuclear facilities, including gas-oil facilities, gas-oil facilities, also theoretically considered well, roughly how we hit russian oil depots in such a way as to deprive them of their resource, ugh, because by and large their main resource is oil, and by the way, it is thanks to this resource that they survive under western sanctions, by the way, who buys their oil? china, ugh, china, of course, china buys 90% of iranian oil, but if we come to that, what is china's position in this case? well, china, china supports iran and supports russia, what is the position, if it buys cheap oil from them, who does it support? you understand a simple thing: if iran and russia could not sell oil to china, and russia

to india, then there would be no war in the middle east, and no war in ukraine . the real beneficiary of this war is the people's republic of china, because war needs money anyway. you see, if you are under sanctions, you have less money, if no one buys your oil, you have no money at all, at one time, saddam hussein, who was not bought oil, agreed to the program of oil in exchange for its food, there was such a program of the organization the united nations in relation to iran, to iraq, and everything is completely different with iran, because iran began to be under sanctions exactly when they appeared. real opportunities for another economy, the economy of the global south, to serve the interests of dictatorships. that is why i say that we are in such a strange situation that,

on the one hand, the civilized world would like to end the conflict in the middle east, because it is clearly threatening it. the civilized world would like to stop the war in ukraine, because this war threatens the security of europe, first of all, the civilized world is introducing sanctions against iran and against russia to force them to stop. war and deprive them of a resource for war, the civilized world continues fruitful economic cooperation with china, but luckily now at least it made these tariffs against chinese electric cars, so this and this cooperation enriches china and develops its economy. china is absolutely not going to reckon with any values ​​of the civilized world and buys cheap cars from those countries against which the united states and european countries impose sanctions. these countries can survive in the sanctions regime and continue wars in ukraine and the middle east. what to do at all? what to do? is it a vicious circle? well, at the same time, of course, later you can

blame israel and ukraine for not really wanting peace. it is necessary that they somehow find some compromises with those who can actually continue the war thanks to this economic carousel. well, she is immoral. and again, what is the way out? we understand the situation, or we force it after all countries of the global south to adhere to common values, or we have to tell ourselves that we will lose any conflict, we cannot win, we can only stop it there for a certain moment by force, the last question is probably whether the possible response will be followed by an iranian strike, there what about the iranians, they say that if israel... responds, then their strike will be even more powerful, well, of course, it may be more threats, but still, can we

consider... becoming what these mutual blows, they will continue, of course because with iran's strikes, it's almost like with putin's strikes, the very idea that if you strike iran, you provoke it to strike again, it's a very strange idea in general, iran has its own political program, this program is called the destruction of the jewish state on in the middle east, as russia has its own political program, called the destruction of the ukrainian state. vladimir putin, as you know, never hid his determination to destroy the ukrainian state, not only putin, medvedev wrote about it, so did all these russian managers always talked about it absolutely openly, without hiding from anyone, explaining what their program was. iranians have been saying this since the time of the islamic revolution, that's how this theocratic regime won, the head of which was alatial khamenei first, and then ayatollah khameneni, well, they are achieving their goals, they can wait for years, remember

what happened. "by the ayatollahs in relation to the famous writer salman rushdie, whom he accused for completely incomprehensible reasons of slandering islam and issued a fatwa about its destruction, and salman rushdie for many years he hid, was beaten by the security of the intelligence services, ayatala khomeini had already died, it was not clear whether they were confirming the fatwa of the ayatala khania, it was a long story, in the end someone came together and hit him. the writer lost an eye, fortunately he did not die, but several decades have passed since the sentence that nani setalakhamini handed down, so you have to understand that if you relax with such people, they will kill you, they will not teach you morals, howl , here, so everything is absolutely obvious here, there is this program that there should not be any israel, khomeini always said this, the italians say this, all

iranian presidents, both... conservatives and liberals, said this, that this masoud pizishkiyan, who is called a representative of the liberal kil, who won the election against the will of the islamic revolution guards corps , who is in difficult relations with the conservative part of the islamic clergy, he who has some other position regarding israel, does not have, he has a different position that it is necessary to coexist with the united states, he has it, it is possible to have different position, and in relation to israel, if you want to be part of this gang... you can't take any other position, so they will strike at israel not when israel strikes them, but when they decide that they have to strike, it's like the russian-ukrainian war, that is, if they think that they have enough missiles, that they have enough forces, that they need such and such targets, i want to assure you that they will find a reason, it can be any

anniversary of some there... israeli strike, the anniversary of some history with the gas sector, the anniversary of that, that is, authoritarian ideologies, they can strike on holidays, just in honor of some holiday, well, as we speak now, it’s vladimir putin’s birthday, there may be a massive attack on russia, that’s why we say because we hit something on him, did something to him, no, we understand that they think so, if they have the power to hit, they can ... just connect it to some important date for them, as a demonstration own state efficiency, so i don't at all i believe that any israeli prime minister, when he decides to strike iran or any other hostile state that wants to destroy israel, that he should think about the fact that there will be a strike back, there will still be a strike, this should be clearly understood, one more topic we would like to talk about

is... poland, and poland continues to be politically shaken by the so-called volyn issue, this has been repeatedly discussed on the airwaves and on the espresso tv channel and in ukrainian society, we have been watching for the past weeks , months, here is the aggravation of this topic in ukrainian-polish relations and in particular in the current week. which we are talking about, the head of the polish institute of national remembrance, they also have such an institute, which has existed for quite a long time, and i am leading to this, that it has existed for quite a long time, and ukraine itself also created the institute of national remembrance later, after the revolution your honor, this institute has been working in poland for many, many years, if i am not mistaken in the 90s, so...