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kateryna galko, she is with us live, katya, my greetings, as the relatives of our defenders remind us today. i congratulate katya, i congratulate the viewers of the tv channel, so every year on the first sunday of october in ukraine, the day of territorial defense is celebrated, because it is these boys and girls, territorial defense, who play one of the key roles in the defense of our state, now, and today, next to me... ms. maryna, representative of the association of families of defenders of the territorial defense of ukrainian cities. mrs marina, i welcome you, please tell us a little more about the boys and girls from the territorial defense, as well as about the possible problems that their relatives face? glory to ukraine, i am a representative of the association, which currently has 15 brigades of territorial defense families of the city of ukraine. we united with the sole purpose of repatriating our relatives, because in reality there is a problem.

there is also a big problem with the identification of the bodies of fallen heroes, this is also part of our work, we are trying to speed up this process, help, we cooperate with the authorities state authorities, the command of the territorial defense forces of the armed forces of ukraine helps us in this, the coordination headquarters for the handling of missing persons, as well as the department of the ministry of internal affairs of the ministry of internal affairs for the issue of missing persons, we have good communication with them, because in fact it is very.

we are very paid, we believe in victory, we believe in the zsu, we believe in the territorial union, please also about what... our association goes together with the authorities, we are not looking for betrayal, we are looking for the question why it is impossible, we are trying change something, because there are many draft laws that require changes at the moment, we are trying to make some changes, bring them to the authorities, because in reality, ukraine, it was not ready for full-scale. in the 14th year

, we also did not have time to prepare, and we cannot blame anyone, but we can find ways, how we can change and what we can influence in order to speed up the exchanges, because as we know, according to the geneva conventions, when there is an armed conflict, exchanges are not foreseen, so we appeal to international institutions to help, often girls organize bus tours, various protest actions abroad, in order to... and to every defender who protects us and thanks to whom we can gather here today on the independence square, i would like to emphasize that the contribution of tro forces to the defense of our country is difficult to overestimate , from the first days of the full-scale invasion, they showed that they would defend every corner of ukraine, every big city and every small village. these are the people who until

recently were, held peaceful positions, were in a peaceful life, but when the war started, they became, took up arms to protect and defend us. our state, today, on this day, respect to all defenders, respect to all heroes, katya, this is what i pass on to you, thank you katya, kateryna galko, was with us in communication from kyiv, today on the independence square there is a peaceful action to the day of territorial forces defense of ukraine. one person died due to enemy shelling in the kharkiv region, another was injured, the national police reported. the russians hit a civilian car with a drone in the village of nizhnya solone. the driver died. place later, the occupiers attacked the village with guided aerial bombs. as a result of shelling, eight private houses and farm buildings were damaged. two people died as a result of russian strikes on donetsk region. another eight were

injured, the regional police reported. the occupiers hit the village of velyka novosilka with guided aerial bombs. as a result of the attack , the man died, his wife was hospitalized. the russians also fired. as a result of enemy attacks , about 40 residential buildings were destroyed, as well as an enterprise and lines were damaged power transmission one person was injured as a result of enemy shelling of odessa, at night the russians hit the city with mortars, the injured man was hospitalized in a serious condition. this was reported in the ministry of internal affairs. the occupiers hit civilian infrastructure, including warehouses. a large-scale fire broke out there, emergency services are working on the spot. one person died, another 15 were injured due to enemy shelling of the kherson region. the russians targeted the residential quarters of the settlements , damaged a high-rise building and six of private houses, - announced the head

of the regional military administration oleksandr prokudin. also in nivydchyna there is a gas pipeline, a warehouse, farm buildings, an ambulance, a bus and a car. debris of downed enemy drones fell in six districts of kyiv region, there were no hits to residential and critical infrastructure objects - said the head of the regional military administration , ruslan kravchenko. during the attack, the air defense forces destroyed enemy targets. fortunately, no one was hurt. and 56 shaheds and two rockets destroyed the defenders of the sky that night, and in general the russians launched more than 90 enemy weapons over ukraine. in particular, 87 wing drones. the kh-59 and iskander-k missiles, as well as the iskander m ballistic missile. this was reported by the air force. enemy targets were eliminated within 14 regions. and to operational information from the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. 169

combat clashes took place at the front during the day. the russians became more active in the kharkiv region. more than 22 assaults were stopped by our defenders in the kupyansk direction. the enemy also attacked six times. the district of liptsi, vovchanska and old women the situation in the pokrovsky direction remains tense. 30 combat clashes took place near selidovy and krutoy yar. defense forces repelled 26 attacks in the kurakhiv direction. another 15 assaults were repulsed near turetsk. during the day, our rocket launchers and gunners hit four areas where the personnel of the muscovites were concentrated, destroyed two artillery pieces and three warehouses of the occupiers. it was all the news. as of 12 stay with espresso, take care.

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saturday's political club, direct yeter, and we begin to discuss all the events, the most important events of the week in ukraine and the world, everything that was happening around. of our country is here now with vitaly portnikov. mr. vitaly, good evening. and so, actually, as always, we start with the security block, with what is happening at the front, what is happening connected with the war in our country, which was unleashed by the russian federation. well, in general, of course, we will talk about all the issues that concern russia. russia and so on and so on, so the first question is probably

how russia is advancing in general, we observe every day that in fact there is a ugledar, here was the pokrovsky direction a few days ago, so today the deep state maps publish information about the next advance on in the kupyan direction, that is, directly in the kharkiv region, there are other directions and... the direction of the temporal ravine, which, maybe now they are less expressive, but the general trend is quite clear, mr. vitaly, what we said on our previous programs, russia is gradually, but moving, and here it is also worth adding information that relates to the fact that, firstly, mobilization in russia continues, russia plans to recruit another quarter of a million conscripts into the army. in order to, in fact, make up for the losses that occurred during

the last time, and of course, no one canceled the autumn draft, that is, russia continues to fight, and this is a fact. mr. vitaly, these are the trends that we are currently seeing at the front, that we are seeing, in particular, in the russian political and military space, and in particular, in addition to this, the fact that russia is laying down the budget for the next year. about 40% of all expenditures are specifically for military needs, for your army and for everything related to the provision of the army, this whole complex of context, how do you evaluate it and what does it indicate? well, we really talked about it many times, i said that the only way to achieve an end to the russian-ukrainian war is not some negotiations, these are not some ultimatums, these are not some between'. people's forums, everything is very simple: either the russian army stops or it

advances, the russian army can be stopped only, as we understand, by resisting this army and reducing its military economic potential, that is, this is what our troops are doing at the front, when we destroy the russian military arsenals, the fact that when we destroy the russian oil depots, the fact that when we say that russia ... should feel the impact not only of drones, but also of western missiles, that's all these are steps to stop, this is one time, another, no need for any illusions, what you have listed, it seems to me, is an obvious answer to this question, that putin wants to advance exclusively in the territories that he declared to be part of the russian federation. kupin is not part of the russian federation, as far as i remember, of course, from the russian point of view, the kharkiv region continues to be part of ukraine. and why? and because there was a famous operation in 2022 , when the russians lost kupyansk, you

remember that it was already temporary the center of the occupied kharkiv region, which they were going to do, what is the kharkiv region of the russian federation, that is, why are they advancing there, they want to capture a certain territorial bridgehead there in 2025, hold a referendum and announce that the kharkiv region is part of the russian federation and after that demand that ukrainian troops leave not only the zaporizhzhia, kherson, donetsk and luhansk regions of ukraine, but also kharkiv, for example, and this is the logic of this war, which you simply need to understand: russians will advance wherever they can, the russians will decide on the annexation of ukrainian regions, and the russians will create such a negotiating position for themselves. which , in their opinion, will help them in principle, even if they fail to occupy all of ukraine,

to annex to russia that part of its territory that is part of the new russia project, by the way, it is worth reminding that this was a plan, it is simply carried out differently, february 2022, that's what the idea of ​​blitz krigu was, a puppet government is being created in kyiv, and as he said then putin, remember, we will ensure the self-determination of all the peoples of ukraine, what kind of people are they, that's what i always want. to ask what kind of peoples are there in ukraine, if the majority of the population here are ethnic ukrainians, and i will tell you what kind of peoples there are in kharkiv oblast, zaporizhzhia, kherson oblast, and so on, then this government headed by viktor yanukovych and viktor medvedchuk should not have interfered the idea of ​​holding referendums in

the eastern and southern regions of ukraine regarding their accession to the russian federation. on the territory that would remain this government, this is how the government hung the times of the hitler occupation of france, just on a larger territory, there would be a puppet ukrainian state as part of russia's allied state of belarus, just in this russia there would already be donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia, mykolaiv, odesa, kharkiv region, well, all of their favorite yugovostok project. that is, they believe that ukraine can exist, that central ukraine should be, on the one hand, a part of the russian project of a union state, and on the other hand, the authorities of central ukraine should to keep the west, the western regions

of ukraine in subjection, because they themselves do not want to exercise control elements there. well, this is how marshal pétain, at the head of this vichy government, exercised control over this territory of france that was left to this puppet french state, by the way, you may remember that at some point, i do n't remember , when it was in '44 or '43, all the rest of france was annexed to the state of owicha, pétain came to paris, he was welcomed there, but in reality it was all really hitler's occupation, just designed under independent france as was already almost completely with the exception of those areas that the germans considered historically theirs, alsace and so on, it was france, well , ukraine like hitler created france for pétain, ukraine putin was going to make for yanukovych, and so on now that the blitzkrieg has turned out to be a fiasco, the impression in russia

is that they can achieve this goal through a multi-year war, that's all, that is, what could not be achieved before... achieved in three days could be achieved in three weeks , what cannot be for three weeks can be achieved in three months, what cannot be achieved in three months can be achieved in three years, but in three years, when they fail, let's see how their priorities will change, that is, what they will say to themselves, that , which could not be achieved in three years, can be achieved in 13 years, the development of events is also absolutely possible, or well, we have already taken what we have taken, we will fix it for the time being, or at least we will go as they are. i think a temporary truce, a temporary truce, yes, well, in principle, that's it, that's the logic of the moment, and i don't know why we are always surprised by their progress, well, it seems as if we always think that they are ready to stop the war, but they want negotiations, they are exhausted, they will want negotiations, when really they are exhausted, it is possible

option, again, i do not know in which year it will take place, i have already stated the conditions for this stop several times. war, it is really when they stopped, when they cannot advance further, it is when their bombing of ukrainian territory does not lead to the results they expected, i.e. to the influx of population, and this, when they lose a huge amount of money, but get nothing as a result, these are the three main conditions, everything else, all these international forums, all these international condemnations, all these statements in... do not matter at all , here you have to understand, we can in principle work from the point of view of our diplomatic success, i always said that i see no reason to believe that we should not work, but we held a peace summit, it is an important instrument of international support for ukraine, does it have something to do with the end of the war no way, now china can hold its own

summit of friends of peace, why? in order to knock out international support from... volodymyr zelenskyi, transfer it to his side, to the side of russia, by and large, and then they will count how many countries will gather at that alternative summit, where the host will no longer be volodymyr zelenskyi, but a conditional sydzenpin, and whether ukraine will want to participate in such a diplomatic forum, but it will still have nothing to do with the war, it will be, if you like, just a game on the other hand, the war is relatively speaking a real event. where live people die, real cities are destroyed, the destinies of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people are destroyed, but this is a computer game, people gather in the mountains, you can gather there in the mountains in switzerland. you can gather in the mountains of china, a beautiful hotel, exquisite food, champagne, and in this situation , really serious problems are discussed, which

these people cannot solve, are not capable of solving, because it is not diplomats, but generals who decide the issue, when there is a war, not presidents, soldiers decide the future of their own country, and presidents can only or command these soldiers, continue. to fight, as is being done now, or to decide that the war ends, that's only when the presidents decide that the war ends, only at that moment, the initiative goes to them from the military, and when the presidents tell the army to fight, then in principle, they do not play a significant role in the course of the situation, there is no need to place great hopes on them. volodymyr zelenskyi can travel around the world, meet with the presidents of various countries demanded. help, but everything depends not on him, but on the ukrainian army. vladimir putin can demand that his army take kiev in three days, no matter what. that it took the entire donbas,

you remember when he set this task back in 2022, but if the russian army cannot do it, vladimir putin, like volodymyr zelensky, is not a subject, but an object of this process. he can only give orders, and whether the military can carry out those orders or not depends on how they have to... fight with another force, force, where force works, politics and diplomacy without force, and here we move to another condition, to security guarantees, which i think we will talk about later, this is also a very important point, because if russia understands that it is opposed by force more than ukraine, let's say there the north atlantic alliance, not just helps, not just provides weapons. but guarantees the security of the ukrainian territory there , at least not covered by war, then it is also a political question for the russian president even then, whether he wants in principle to lead to

a conflict that could lead to a prospective conflict between a nuclear state and a nuclear bloc, this is a completely different story, but it is also for our allies, a very important story, if they give us security guarantees, are they ready for a potential conflict with a nuclear state... which could turn into the third world a war with the use of a nuclear component and the death of tens of millions of people in the midst of the greatest drama in the history of mankind, when you and i perfectly understand, dear friends, that no one will remember the russian-ukrainian war and the fate of ukraine in this sad background, and february 24, 2022 will go down in the history of mankind, if there will be any history of mankind at all, maybe not at all, as the firing of the starting gun, which put an end to the hopes of millions of people to live. on earth , some more time, which was set aside for this civilization, is also, of course, not eternal on this planet, but we, at least, belong to those generations that were going to live here for a long

time, and it may turn out that these hopes of ours are in vain , and that we are, in principle , approaching the most interesting and, i would said, a fascinating catastrophe in the history of mankind, which really no one will read about in history books anymore due to their possible absence, and so when we think about it, we understand what... western politicians are afraid of and how this nuclear putin's blackmail is working, but i just showed you the mechanism of this blackmail, which, by the way, was used again this week, when they continued to talk about their nuclear doctrine there, how they will apply it, will not apply it, although on the other hand we see as in fact the same piskov says that no, the drone strikes there are not nuclear. on the territory of russia or even there by ukrainian -made missiles, the fact that their warehouses are exploding, so that it has nothing to do with this, that is, as they say, a step forward, of course, this is

a situation of strategic uncertainty, so that the west does not understand, after all , where that specific condition, where they are ready for it, maybe they are not ready for it at all, but they specifically create such a situation when the doctrine is, when it can be applied, it is not clear, let's continue. this is the whole discussion further and we will also talk about these next attempts at peace, various plans, publications in the western media and the opinions of our foreign partners, after a short pause, for a few minutes, and we will return to the saturday political club live, don't switch, thousands of ukrainians'. in a similar situation, the sofa suits you on the one hand, and as soon as the time comes to sleep on it, the thought of replacing it immediately arises, and you understand why the issue of changing the sofa is so urgent.

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a visit to kyiv, actually mark rutte, the new secretary general of nato, he arrived in ukraine and made several statements related to, including, ukraine's possible membership in the north atlantic alliance. in particular, mr. rutte stated that ukraine is closer to nato than ever before, mr. rutte also commented on the possibilities. strikes on the territory of russia with western weapons, and in particular, again, a large number of publications appeared in the foreign press concerning the possible membership of ukraine in nato, here is the financial times, several articles appeared there, one today, some articles appeared during previous days, in particular.