so, dear friends, we are coming back, leisya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, in this studio, on this day we are working for... for you and we have been working for a whole week, and this is our final hour for today and this week, and we hope that you will spend it with us, at least we urge you to do so, it will be interesting, now we will talk about mykolayiv oblast, about the city of pervomaisk, where vingranovsky was born and where the vingranovsky artarathon started, which will last for three months, it is dedicated to the poet vingranovsky. who comes from pervomaisk, well

and we also want to tell you that we will also have people's deputy of ukraine yevgenia kravchuk, we will talk about the results of the pare session, and we also want to give you a little summary of our week, how you and i collected money for our defenders from three brigades, the third separate sturmova street, 110th and 47th streets, so during this week we collected, attention, we wanted to... collect 250,000, but we have already collected 270,000, dear friends, more than we thought, and this is a wonderful result, we thank you for this, now on your screens you see what we are collecting for, these are drones and this repsystems, those that are very necessary on the front lines to protect the lives of our soldiers and to destroy the muscovite who is lurking behind our troops, now from what we thought we managed to collect. and what

a mark we have already reached in total for the entire time of our assembly: 2481.894 hryvnias and 20 kopecks of the 3.5 million necessary in order to finally purchase all this and transfer it to the front line, so that we already have 2 15 million, we lack some 18 with a small tail of thousands of uah, dear friends, you still have an opportunity to donate and you still have an opportunity to increase our amount to 270,000 as much as you donate, we will be extremely grateful to you, and especially our defenders will be grateful to you, who turned to us to help them close this collection, let's now listen to those guys for whom we are actually collecting, good health , dear ukrainians, we are the fighters of the first assault battalion of the third separate assault... brigade, who defend our

native land on the front lines, we urgently need your help, we need means of radio electronic warfare against malikhbyl, the enemy and comikat drones, very pro we're asking for your help, kudos to ukraine, kudos to the heroes, kudos to the heroes, so if you've never donated to these guys, do it now, the qr code appears in the corner, there it is, the same qr code, well and also, this was not planned today, it absolutely was, but on our airwaves was tetyana lisitina, a combat medic who was collecting for turnstiles, and our viewers listened to her such a cry of the soul, eh, it struck them, they asked for card numbers, they asked for a link to the monobank , and i see that they continue to write on her facebook page, people, words of gratitude, those who saw this morning air of ours and heard... saw this conversation,

tell her good words and tell her to donate to the turnstiles according to the sample, according to the nativ sample, and i hope that her collection will be very soon is being collected, it has a small amount there compared to those that we collect 58 00, well, but nevertheless now, now it is much more difficult for everyone to collect for help for our army, and what we are talking about now is already there we are already talking about vingran. festival organizer oleksandr vysotsky is already with us, mr. oleksandr, we welcome you, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you, i am glad to have the opportunity to speak in front of the espresso audience. so, the vingranovsky artarathon will last for three months, it started in the mykolayiv region, in the city of pervomaisk, and what will happen as part of this marathon, where, who will run with... run,

isn't it about sports? thank you for the question, it's not about sports, it's about ukrainian culture in the mykolaiv region, which, in my opinion, is lacking there, because... in the 24th year in the middle of the war , we would really like all the people who care, so that the south of ukraine and mykolaiv oblast itself would be understood by everyone as a uniquely ukrainian territory, not as novorossia, as our vorezhenkas want to present it, that is why we organized, with the support of the ukrainian cultural fund, for the second time this year, the festival of mykola vingranovsky, which is called this year's artaraphon , and... the fund because, due to the security component, we wanted to attract a large number of spectators to this artistic event, and divided it into as many as 20 different events, which lasted here in august, in september, and on october 12 we will have

the main festival day, all this takes place in the city of pervomaisk in the mykolaiv region, where mykola vingranovsky, one of the greatest and most significant ukrainian poets, was born. he is a student of oleksandr dovzhenko, he is a public figure and, in general, a person who was formed in the mykolaiv region and is a bright representative of ukrainian culture and identity, who works fantastically with the ukrainian language. this year actually marks 20 years since mykola stepanovych left the limit of eternity, and i, as his countryman, really wanted to pro vingranovsky was known more, and thanks to his glorious name, our region has become more ukrainian, conscious, because the quarantine, the war, blocks many creative initiatives, both for young ukrainians and for people who are already of an older age, so it seems to me , that this project

has matured and perhaps over-ripe, in fact, that is why it is happening right now, on the 12th, on the main festival day in the city. i just counted, there will be approximately 10 laureates of the shevchenko prize at the same time, these will be the telniuk sisters, this will be khoreya kozatska, this it will be anatoly kychynskyi, it will be vasyl gerasimyuk, it will be famous ukrainian artists who will be able to perform and represent ukrainian culture for our community, which is often very, as far as i'm concerned, on both sides. such a cultural process, which is currently flourishing in ukraine, in fact, in a nutshell, this is how i see this process, and it is clear that more than 10 events are already behind us, we managed to do a lot in the previous months, we opened and the exhibition of mykola

vingranovsky's books, and they did artoloka, and they did military band concert, we managed to do a lot of good things, on the fourth we actually held for the smallest audience at the school... where mykola vingranovsky studied, a very emotional and beautiful art picnic, where the writer serhii pantyuk performed and mykola stepanovych's poems were read, songs were sung on his poem, children who study in different schools of our community, that is why we are trying to unite ukrainians of different age categories, forcibly displaced persons, we invited our troops to the film screening of the film black cossack. and they responded and had great emotions, we have very cool such feedback, good feedback, because this is a really living ukrainian culture, which today, together with its people, together with the ukrainian army, in fact, we are going to report, like all normal people, well,

we are trying to do so that the name of vingranovsky, which stands high, authoritatively over our community , unites it, that's why we involve the local authorities and... all creative people, as well as volunteers and artists that we have, and this is inspiring. mr. oleksandr, you are at the beginning of your career the answers said that they wanted more ukrainian sound in pervomaisk in the homeland, in the small motherland, er, he was granovsky, who was in his sixties, who, i think, clearly did not like the name of the city at the time. in which he was born, especially since those on may day, in kharkiv oblast there were a few dozen of them, i don't know how many there are in mykolaiv oblast, and now decommunization is taking place, and i know that there are discussions, olviopil, bogoslavsk,

there were other options there , why the city still remains with the name given to it by the soviets occupiers, this is a painful topic for me, so... because you know, when i was in the second grade, i, as a student of the school where vin granovsky studied, refused to sign the notebook with the word pervomaisk and wrote pervotravensk, because to me... the child even then it was clear that something was wrong with this name, it sounds like a twist, and i sincerely dislike it all my life , to the point of shame that my city, which has a cossack history, which is such a territory, where the railway , and in general this region is very bright, with good names, with the great cossack history, and today we see the final round of this struggle for our own identity and for the name of our city, and you... are right to say that the three settlements on the southern side, which were connected by the soviets illegitimately, without asking anyone , they called

it pervomaysk, as if on may 1, 1919 , which is not true, because it all happened on july 6, specifically by the decree of petrovsky, who was an accomplice in the holodomor, they united three settlements into one city against the will of the citizens of these three settlements, this there were three pretty good ones and quite a few small towns, actually in order to... make it easier to impose one's occupying power, today, unfortunately, we have a relapse, because instead of renaming the town accordingly to bogopil, which granovsky constantly mentions in his work , because bogopil is, after all, our city, at the headwaters of the sinyukha and pivdenny bug rivers, which was named in honor of the actual river god, because the pivdenny bug is, well, its ancient name is the river god, and... it would be, accordingly, as a normal toponym , a hydronym corresponding to our territory, has an attachment and presents

city, clear to those who will read it on a map. instead, we are now being offered and in the verkhovna rada, unfortunately, the name olviopol is again being introduced, and olviopol is a kind of pseudo-greek name that was imposed on us during the time of catherine ii, as well as one of the parts of the city, which was orlyk, and is such urban legend that there was a cossack fortress, eagles, cockatiel. it actually historically has, well, there are certain doubts, so historians have not yet completely solved all these riddles about the names, but we definitely understand that the eagle will be a cossack a marker in the south of ukraine, bogopol or bogopil, it will definitely be a ukrainian name, there are various discussions about this, but even a rumor is perceived as absolutely normal in ukrainian, it was possible to come up with another name, and since there are three settlements. they are different, and they now exist as a three-unit city, and have already been used to such a life for centuries, it could

be called bogoslavsk or triangle, or even the city vingranovsky, so that it would be appropriate, because mykola vingranovsky is a personality of exactly that scale, which is not it's a shame to name the city, but in my opinion it is too difficult, it is difficult for us, our population is often corrupted by the soviet authorities, it is used to, well... some kind of content, as it is now called cotton wool, russified, the historical process has not yet reached that degree , when people understand that the name is important, that there cannot be a soviet name on the map of ukraine, nevertheless, today even our members of the verkhovna rada for some reason promote the name of catherine ii, actually changing the occupation name pervomaisk to the occupation name the name olviopol, which for me is the legitimization of the occupation. and i know that

the institute of national memory has already said that if the city is renamed olviopol, it will still be subject to renaming at the same moment, because it does not correspond to national interests or the laws that are currently in force, so it's a pity, that our city will surely become the one that... there is a record and will be renamed twice, because the intentions to rename it to alviopol, unfortunately, are significant, and we see that something reasonable has not quite reached the deputies' corps so far, although experts clearly formulated their position a long time ago, and actually our festival, it does not exist by itself, not just for the sake of vingranovsky, because vingranovsky, shevchenko, franko, ukrainka do not need our, you know, cultural support to... remain great people , they are great and will always be great, but we need him

granovsky, as proof that we are ukraine, because he was formed there, and we need to decommunize and decolonize this territory, which today is still full of various beacons, hooks, various such triggers, imperialist, and our local residents often say that, for example, nothing in our city... was built by the cossacks, everything was built by some empire, one or another, and this complex of inferiority, unfortunately, it stinks practically in our cultural field, therefore... our festival has a high goal, we would like all normal people to unite and such important, urgent problems, our homework is national, which we have not done for many years, today during the war , when risking their lives, giving their lives, defenders of ukraine give us invaluable time, i would like to work at this time, every day, every month

, so that irreversible changes take place in ukraine internally, and we do not need to do to ukraine. we need to undo the colonization, we are a normal, full-fledged nation, and things like renaming, which i very much support, because we should not invent something new, we should return to our true selves, so the official position of our project is really to rename the city to specific ukrainian name, new or old, but that it is still not olviopol, because it is actually... provocation, in my opinion, this decision will not be legitimate, and it will be reviewed anyway, you know, when i was looking for information about pervomaisk, i thought, well, vin granovskyi is from pervomaisk, well, i will google whether there is vingranovskyi street, well, it would be it's completely unfair, it's a pity and a shame that there is no street in the city where the poet was born,

there is a street, according to google, but the former soviet one is indicated in brackets, i just don't know. how long ago sovietanska street was renamed to vingranovskogo and do people in pervomaisk know who this figure is? granovsky? the street has been renamed, i think, i can’t say for sure right now, but it looks so, if you think about it, it’s definitely been there for decades, and they’re used to it, and thank god, our people easily accept changes, they probably think that they are difficult for them ... are accepted, there is a certain habit to names, to toponyms, to some kind of image of one's own city, of oneself in it, and this is a problem, because one must not live according to inertia in our times, after all, live consciously, include a clear mind , uh, that's why we can say that our people are not hopeless, there are in our community a huge number of extremely smart

ukrainian-centric, modern people, with whom we are actually doing the project, because we have to... lean on, there are also deputies in the city council who state their position very clearly, i am proud of such people, we have a lot artists, we have honest journalists, we have honest businessmen who support the army and support us at every step quietly, together we actually already, you know, created such a parallel world, a city within a city, and we are just trying to spread the influence of ukrainian values ​​a little in this community, which, well, because of this cultural stagnation, is emerging. stands on the verge of change, because in order to explain to people the importance of renaming and decolonization, this process must be conducted and conducted actively, because people who bathe potatoes, take their children to kindergarten, school, go to work, are under great emotional pressure during the war, they are not able to make this effort on themselves simply, for this you need a certain preparation, and therefore our

mission is as people who are more prepared, who have experience, we have a large kyiv team, because we... are doing the vingranovsky festival with the team of taras shevchenko of the shefest festival, and this is also our great strength, that we really have experience and communication with funds such as the ukrainian cultural fund, but we actually just started this work, it needs more effort, it needs a certain regularity, so a marathon is probably a good idea, because in three months we can give much more informational reasons and attract a larger audience. because the inertia and resistance of this matter is quite high, but what about vingranovsky is known in the city, but they don’t know enough, the children who study at school, when they are in their consciousness, in a fresh way, they say who he is, especially children who are specially trained by excellent teachers, which we also have, but on unfortunately,

most people, even we came to the city with oleksiy riznychenko, mykola's friend. stepanovich, who was twice in soviet camps, he is his countryman, he lived in the city of pervomaisk, today he is from odessa, so he just, you know, trolled taxi drivers in a good way, we went in a taxi five times with him, and he asked each taxi driver who granovsky was, then one said who he was, and four did not understand, four tried to guess, and they did not succeed, so it turns out that it seems that people also know, and we have arthab vin granovsky, yes, a large building, a modern library in the middle of the city, which you already know, such a constantly active banner, this is a large facade of a building, where it is simply written artabvin granovsky, but that’s me... since in pervomaisk they know about vin granovsky, yes should know in every city, and in pervomaisk, actually, or in future bogopols, as i would like, should

know about vingranovsky, maybe even better than about themselves, because this is the first thing and who should be talked about, being proud of their city, because such people appear extremely rarely, like the passing of halley's comet, and it is literature that can show us, everyone in this community, as heirs. well, great ukrainian culture, absolutely not ordinary, not local, not regional, as riznychenko said, oleksa serhiyovych, a great ukrainian writer, linguist, he granovsky is too great and for pervomaysk and for the mykolaiv oblast, that is why we are trying to start from the origins, but still move towards an understanding of this man, his work throughout the territory of ukraine, because we need him granovsky, he... lived in the occupation, he was born between the holodomor and the second world war, this is a man who went through hell, like the generation of the sixties, everything, he experienced all our troubles and at the same time

created a beautiful, optimistic literature of a people who overcomes all evil, his admiration for the world, our homeland, our language, our women, our nature, rivers, it is incredibly inspiring, it is... such a resource that is inexhaustible like a ray of sunshine, so thank you for this question, and i hope that all my compatriots and compatriots of vin granovsky who will see our broadcast today, they will be a little ashamed of the fact that they know little about such an important person who, although he died 20 years ago, will only do a lot of good for us in the future, you see, ukrainians are now discovering a lot for themselves , for example, there is a band a perig and a whip, who... recorded the song some time ago, not even a year, but before the invasion of the word techyny, and only now it

shot out and everyone says, my god, what a beautiful song, and this is techyny, which was allowed by the owl the yets union doesn't care, but for example, yesterday was, i think, the birthday of bohdan ihor antonych, and he is a fantastic poet of the age of modernism, who we simply don't have another, there is no one to put next to him, because there was no more age of modernism in such, in such a more or less free world, than as luck would have it then lviv, he is from granovsko, for example, i heard beautiful songs performed by solomiya chubai, who simply translated his poetry into music, and i hope that this request, this interest, as ukrainians now discover for themselves the writers of the shot revival and say , my god, what a beautiful literature we have. that they will finally discover granovsky for themselves, first of all they will discover him in pervomaisk, and they will say: i am from

pervomaisk, he is from granovsky, and even better that they said that i am from so-and-so of the city for which a truly ukrainian name was found, no matter whether it was newly invented or old, and from there he is granovsky, and he would also be for that name now, if he were alive, he would advocate for it. thank you, we remind our viewers, if anyone wants to attend the vingranovsky artarathon in the mykolaiv region, it has started, will last for three months, and there will be about 20 events dedicated to the figure of mykola vingranovsky, a poet, a director who also wrote prose and a poet. dear friends, now we are going to take a short cut pause, come back and continue, stay with us. thinking about a new mattress, but here's what's

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freedom in the mornings - only the most important thing, we talk about topics that others are silent about, pay attention to details that others do not notice, one ether, one topic that exploring from different angles, now 20 minutes, because we value your time, watch on weekdays at 9:10 on espresso, or at any convenient time on youtube of radio svoboda. an unusual look at the news. good health, ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresin, sharp presentation of facts and competent opinions. for example, if mykola veresen had done so, he would have gone to prison, a special view on the events in ukraine, so it is not necessary to say that the fish rots from the head, no, not from the head, and beyond its borders, then who is china , i have a heart hurts all this in an informational marathon with mykola in september, saturday 5:10 p.m., sunday 6:15 p.m.

at espresso. armistice instead of victory, or is this the end of this war waiting for us against the background of various proposals and plans, which at least do not yet give a real vision, not that the end of even the further course of the ukrainian-russian, russian-ukrainian war, so far everyone is waiting in anticipation not only the front, but it's traditionally tense there, but also all of us actually with... with this issue, so where can this strategic uncertainty lead, let's try understand our plot. strategic uncertainty, that's what they call tactics in geopolitics, when you don't say how you will act in a certain situation, it makes the enemy nervous and refrain from certain steps. but strategic uncertainty is also about the immediate future of the russian-ukrainian war, it is extremely difficult to predict it,

as well as the actions of ukraine, our allies and our enemy. on the one hand, there is an obvious trend towards negotiations, truce and freezing of the conflict along the contact line. that's about it the so-called sino-brazilian peace plan, which is gaining acceptance from a growing number of countries and not just the global south. hungary, a member of the european union and nato, as well as neutral switzerland, have already declared their support for it. this outraged ukraine. the ukrainian side is disappointed with the information regarding the swiss side's support for the so-called sino-brazilian six- point consensus. once again, we emphasize that all ideas, discussions and plans regarding the restoration of peace in ukraine should be based on two principles: first, nothing about ukraine without ukraine. secondly, these proposals should be based on the statute.