that it is the ukrainian institute of national memory that has fundamental problems to understand the political weight of this problem. i will not say this about ukrainian diplomacy, which is trying, trying and trying, by the way, and in 2017, when this problem arose at all, it tried to find ways to end this problem, which, i think, almost no one in ukraine understands. and this is a huge problem, and perhaps it would really be worthwhile to remove some responsibility from the shoulders of historians, because here we are talking about exhumans. that is, it is about

certain investigative procedures, i.e., the results of which must be recorded, and we understand that this case could possibly move from its place in its practical aspect, if a suitable, i don't know, joint institution would appear, or if governments, cabinets were authorized ministers, for example, of poland and ukraine, who could undertake the regulation of relevant problems related to the national. legislation, we understand that the legislation in both ukraine and poland is extremely rich, yes, and we need to move quite quickly, but that is exactly could be the proposal that you, anton , made as one of the ways to get out of this impasse, in any case, then also adapt the ukrainian and polish legislation to those new circumstances, or or simply...

theirs are not buried, they are lying in ditches, wells and fields of volyn and halychyna, because this is the case, these exhumations were carried out until 2017, and several thousand were found there, the rest are still lying in some unknown places or in known places, but there are no crosses, no moss, but also if such comments are, for example, a manifestation of loss.

exactly what happened, i won’t talk about it either, because there is a lot of it, i don’t want to go deeper into this topic, instead, i hear proposals to create a certain joint commission between poland and ukraine, and the composition of this commission should also include politicians who have then take on this responsibility to convince the polish and ukrainian society.

said that he would try to do it himself, instead, these statements, which were handed over by the polish ipn, will be reluctantly considered in the future, but then there will be fewer such statements if we actually talk with us, we need as few statements as possible, as many cases as possible, in addition to volhynia, there is, for example, the question of the sagrada familia and the corresponding places of memory in poland, yes, where possible, it would also be worthwhile to carry out appropriate exhumation works, well, if we start this process in volyn, then we should not limit ourselves to ukraine, there are relevant tragic pages, which are also localized in poland, what to do with that? absolutely, and i would even say that,

unlike volhynia and halychyna, there were probably even more ukrainians in eastern poland victims of the conflict, not polish. instead , i also want to say that...

it involves the restoration of the text that was on the destroyed tablet, what are the prospects for the fact that the monastery that fell on the mountain will be properly commemorated, is there, do you see the light at the end of the tunnel, well, i see , because regardless of the fact that there are doubts as to whether the individuals whose surnames were on the table or someone else were actually buried there on this monastery mountain, but there is an understanding that... it was a mistake on the polish side to restore this memory the table in a different form, so that there is no to restore this part where there were surnames, i believe that it should be restored, on the contrary , due to emotional escalation, it seems that now there is

such a conviction that let ukraine say for the first time that there are no obstacles to excommunicate all people who would like it. is it worth or is it expedient, or is it politically reasonable to make these two cases dependent, or is it not worth it? well, the key story is that if there was an appropriate polish-ukrainian body that would take care of such matters, well, at least what concerns the resolution of technical issues, permits, conversations with representatives of local administrations, local self-government in poland and ukraine, well, i think that the matter would have gone much faster, well, but how important is it, if we are talking now. about the last meeting of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine sybigi with the polish minister of foreign affairs

sikorsky, so we understand that it was not only about this, i think that there are also a number of so -called difficult problems that must be solved as soon as possible, as far as i know , the minister of sebiz, president duda, then to the marshal of the sejm, mr. chief, and during other meetings he said basically one thing,

from this corkscrew, so as not to break, and if poland will block the european integration of ukraine, which seems unlikely to me, but i absolutely cannot rule out this option either, well, it will be a tragedy. thank you, dear mr. director, for this extremely important conversation on the air of the tv channel, i want to remind our tv viewers that lukasz adamski, deputy director of the

mirushevsky center, a polish historian, was currently working, expert on polish-ukrainian cooperation. well... now that the time of our program is up, stay tuned to the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of this extremely difficult time. take care of yourself and your loved ones. see you on air.

congratulations, thank you for being with espresso, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and today i have the honor of interviewing a very unusual guest for you. after all, we are doing this interview in a place where i am also a guest, it is not our studio, and we are very grateful to rereed bookstore for having we have the opportunity to record in this

beautiful city. indeed, i hope for an interesting interview. actually, today we will... talk about the war through the eyes of a serviceman, we will talk about how he sees trends in ukrainian society and how the military reacts to what is happening outside our country. i will probably start by reminding you that the rubizh rapid response brigade, you know the servicemen of this brigade well, some of them are good friends of our broadcasters, they are people who took part in battles. in the kyiv region, this is gostomel, then this rubizhne, severodonetsk, battles for bakhmut, and now the rubizh brigade is working in the kharkiv region. why was it important, it is important to remember this brigade, because today we are talking with major of the rubizh national guard brigade, hero of ukraine vitaly lytvyn. we welcome you. greetings,

ms. khrystyna, and dear viewers. and listeners both listen to us and watch us. i would... i would certainly like to start with the general situation through your eyes, the front, the frontier is now in kharkiv oblast, and after all we are talking about 2.5 years of the great war, everything is changing, just recently i had a conversation with a serviceman who says: well, if we went to bakhmut to work there, relatively speaking, and the enemy was at a distance of 200, 300 m from us, and we could still carry out even the evacuation of civilians, if necessary, then pukrovsk now says 7 km from the front, but i ran away from the fpv drone, the specifics are completely different, probably how the war looks now through your eyes, well, i want to say that our brigade, the brigade of

the rubizh offensive guard, it is now used in combat operations not only in kharkiv region, but also this one... direction and i.e. on several directions, our units are now used, and recently, when i was leaving the zone of performance of official combat tasks to the units, i worked, one might say, i went around the line from kharkiv to pokrovsk, talked with servicemen of various units, and you are right to say that the methods of conducting modern wars, they change now maybe every week, every month, even maybe every day. because now the priority is the means of conducting intelligence, technical means, uavs, radar stations, which are being developed, as in russia federations, as well as in our country, and so... are developing against these means, that is, we understand that at the beginning of the actions in the kharkiv region, that is in the direction of liptsi-vovchansk, the enemy used a large number of

operational-tactical drones, such as orland 10, zala and disputes, now we can already see that and how our brigade, the rubizh offensive guard brigade, began to shoot down these eagles with the help of phividrons, our brigade is also doing this, the charter brigade is also doing this, and the 11th and 14th national brigades . the guards of ukraine and the armed forces brigades do the same of ukraine and other special forces, that is , some kind of technical component of intelligence is being developed, for example, we take uavs, they can fly to a greater depth, and to counter this, our country is developing means of countering tsymbla, that is, it is some kind of radar stations, bearing stations and means , with which you can hit these drones, that is , what you said about yours. from bakhmut, we also worked on bakhmut, and the enemy was very close, they used a large amount of artillery ammunition, and now when we see on the territory of the russian

federations can catch fire with these ammunition depots, and they understand that they also need to develop a history with fpv drones. when did this fpv drone story even come about? if you remember, there was a trend when our western partners did not provide us with aid packages, namely ammunition for artillery systems. you just know, such a challenge and response, it is in the trends of history, civilizations arose where, first of all, there were difficult conditions, climatic conditions, where it was not possible, as, for example, in our territory we had animals with which we could hunt, we could engage in gathering, for example, the sumero-akkadian kingdom, they had to dig and irrigate canals, that is, they had to survive, and so did we, when we had critical history... regarding ammunition for artillery systems, it is soviet-made, it is the d-30s, and the systems that were provided to us by our partners, these are the systems of three-sevens, paladins,

polish crabs, that is, different systems, we have a history, that we want to fight, we want to survive, we want to continue to work establishment of our country, and our military, our volunteers, our civilian developers began to invest in history with fpv drones. and that is, it first arose in us due to a lack of ammunition, and now it and will continue to compensate for a certain amount of lack of ammunition. the russian federation has analyzed, seen this, for this we must understand that we have a very powerful enemy, they have a very powerful intellectual component, they have very powerful microelectronics, which make a part of the production of any drones, any ammunition, homing, the same krasnopoli. any microcircuits that are printed, they contain a very powerful component that remained after the collapse of the soviet union, it was the same in our country, but due to certain interventions of the russian

federation in the political processes of ukraine, it was simply destroyed, and our country was preparing for , if the occupation of the russian federation, and the tendencies of conducting hostilities, they are constantly changing, this is so so very disappointing, disappointing. all these processes before changes in the trends of warfare, and they are now are happening very rapidly, that is, i am often asked, i am told, you are in the army for 10 years, a third of your life, it is actually so, and just to analyze how the development of technical means is going up, i was a uav operator, before it became mainstream , in the 14th year i took courses, volunteers from ivano-frankivsk gathered quadcopters for us. it was probably not a quadcopter, there were more motors, propellers, they assembled it at the nazazhai base, that is, there were deejay brains,

controllers, they completely soldered themselves, i already was engaged in that, and understanding from what level our bpas of domestic production have grown in 10 years, i emphasize precisely the domestic ones, not some fleys that are produced in europe, then there is germany, many other countries, i want to... say that for the price and at the price of western manufacturers, how are they competitive, and that is, in 10 years, this is a very colossal, you know, development of all these means, then i was still an enthusiast who was engaged in radio electronic intelligence, i ordered a dvr sdr, this is a module that shows tv channels , i connected it to the computer and just sat, listened. radio stations and our radio stations, because we did not use digital radio stations at that time, but analog ones, and understanding how this trend is now, here is the uav,

radio electronic intelligence in 10 years. developed, and during the full-scale invasion, a lot of dormant citizens, united citizens, they realized that there was, you know, this period of the cold war, maybe you can call it that, it was this period of six months during the second world war, when certain countries did not provided assistance, they expressed concern, but no steps were taken in the direction of supporting ukrainian in particular. of the state and ukrainian citizens, yes, some aid was provided, some sanctions, which we see, did not completely limit the military-industrial complex of the russian federation, because french thermal imagers were also installed on their eagles, and a lot of equipment from the united states went there, that is there were such, you know, eye-pleasing sanctions that did not affect the military industry of the russian federation, and before a full-scale invasion we developed on our own, and

this... there was not a very large percentage of citizens who were engaged in this, after a full-scale invasion, this figure jumped to the size of many research institutes, for example, the polytechnic institute in chernihiv is also involved in the development in kyiv, and many ivano-frankivsk and lviv polytechnics and there are many such institutes, where teachers, students, well, that is, the experts of our country in this direction, they are engaged in the progress of the military and military industries. complex of ukraine. this, by the way, is one of the explanations why the enemy so actively raided educational institutions throughout the entire large-scale invasion. yes, yes. and we understand that this is a separate topic in general, why, remember this question, ask me, the destruction of the intellectual component of ukraine and our citizens, it is also very much, you know, a topic that can only be talked about in a few hours. i would really like that, i think,

any person. which thinks in terms of humanistic categories in general, as far as possible, i would like the war, if it is already being waged, to be waged safely for people, yes, and for robots to fight, there were already precedents, if i'm not mistaken, tom cooper posted a very cool recording, when in fact a robotic platform is pulling into a position of bc fighters, and it is hit by an enemy fpv, where is whose device or? to be honest, i don’t remember anymore, but the very moment and the picture when the robot hits the robot, and this confrontation takes place at this level, gives hope that we will be able to save more lives that are important to us, our lives, our servicemen, in relation to people who, without whom this war impossible, now there is a problem with the staffing

of our brigades, in general with the number of soldiers, as far as i understand, we do not know specific numbers, thank god, but the mobilization continues, how it continues, this is also a separate topic, one way or another, in your opinion, are there certain deviations here, are we doing enough so that someone does not announce on all of facebook in desperation, really desperate that he is going to szz, are we doing enough so that... and on the other hand, this does not happen kind of busification, as it's been called, and to me it's the same as, you know, the definition of debauchery, more of a populist category, but nevertheless, are we doing enough to balance this moment, you know, it's such a very difficult question, uh, actually i think we started not doing enough,

maybe even... six months ago , many figures, military and political leadership, ordinary ordinary citizens, began to simply relax, for many this war has become somewhere far away, that is, we mobilize when we hear sirens outside the window, missile danger, and this, when it directly concerns those citizens, which are in rear cities, by the way, i wrote a post about pickup trucks in front-line cities, that is, when , you know, the city falls asleep, there is a curfew in kyiv , no one drives here, kramatorsk, slovyansk, kharkiv, zaporizhzhia, these cities are in sumy oblast, they come to life, and hundreds, thousands of little pickups, yes, yes, yes, i was going to say, but i hold back, pretend people in pixel, you know in multi.