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at the same time, millions of dollars in cash are found in middle-ranking officials who, according to law enforcement officials, earn money from the war. is there political will to put an end to such earnings? we are talking about this today in svoboda live. my name is vlasta lazor. the pechersk district court of kyiv today arrested the head of khmelnytskyi msek tetyana krupa for 60 days with the possibility of bail of 500 million uah. msec is shortened. it. the medical and social expert commission, which is globally subordinate to the ministry of health, and is engaged in, among other things, and by giving conclusions about whether a person has a disability or not, if so, it is this commission that determines the group of a person's disability. the management, the head, more precisely, of the khmelnytskyi regional center of msek, tetiana krupa, was accused of illegal enrichment, allegedly for money she helped men avoid mobilization, issued them fake disability certificates. as stated in the sbi,
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almost 6 million dollars in cash were found in the apartment of the officials during searches last friday. this is the video taken during the searches that has gone viral on the internet. on a man lay down on the bed where the law enforcement officers threw the cash found in the apartment. according to the low media, this is the former head of the state public service department in the khmelnytsky region, volodymyr krupa. he is tatyana krupa's husband. we don't shoot you, we're going to pass it on , we 're going to break it, but what's the second way out for us? for this pension. during the searches of tatyana krupa tried to get rid of part of the money and threw away two bags. with dollars through the window,
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according to the sbi report, at the workplace of tetyana tetyana krupa, law enforcement officers found another 100,000 dollars, as well as a number of forged medical documents with the names of patients. well, so to speak, with their fictitious diagnoses. along with tetyana krupa , her son oleksandr krupa was also suspected of illegal enrichment. he is the head of the main office of the pension fund of ukraine in khmelnytskyi region. it is interesting that tatyana krupa was also there she was elected deputy of the regional council from the servant of the people party, although she was non-partisan. the servant of the people announced that they will withdraw groats from the regional council. on the same day, when the head of the khmelnytskyi msek was searched, the prosecutor's office and the sbu also for... exposing the head of one of kharkiv's medical and social expert commissions, they say, he and his accomplices organized a scheme to evade mobilization, men of draft age were given out for money fake disability certificates, this is a photo from kharkiv, they were published by the regional prosecutor's office,
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everything is standard, bills are spread out, wads of money are tied with rubber bands, in general , the prosecutor's office, the state security service and the security service of ukraine are often distinguished by the fact that they make a show out of their searches, photograph everything, even film it. and then they either publish it themselves or upload it anonymously to the internet, and demonstrate their work, so to speak, but the main question is whether this whole case will fall apart in court, in particular the case of tatyana krupa, tatyana krupa, her husband, by the way, volodymyr, who lay down on the bed with the dollars, had already declared that he would protect his wife and son and that he knows how to do it, well, we are showing you this already in the current story, during searches of the doctor of one of the diagnostic centers in zhytomyr. law enforcement officers seized more than 4 million hryvnias, allegedly for the money she issued fake mri results, and on the basis of these results, men of draft age could avoid mobilization. well, now, perhaps the most important question, for me personally in this story, sounds like this: could ordinary
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doctors, ordinary regional officials make such wraps on their own, did they have a roof, or as it is popularly called a roof, and the second question, and why only now in the third year of the full-scale... law enforcement officers began to come to these officials, because msek is a medical and social expert commission, and before the full-scale war it had a rather dubious reputation, well, after the full-scale war and the police, what suddenly happened, about we will continue to talk about this, including on today's broadcast, and just now petro kuzyk, callsign apostle, commander of the svoboda battalion, the rubizh offensive brigade, the national guard of ukraine, joins our broadcast, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory of ukraine. glory to the heroes, peter, a when you see cash in dollars and euros and hryvnias spread out on the sofa, what do you think about, what thoughts come to mind, well, there are many thoughts, you just know, you can say banal
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things such as during a war, this is looting, and for that you have to the most severe punishment, as a rule, according to the laws of war. it is necessary to immediately finish with such officials, but, but, but, we live in a state governed by the rule of law, and it is sad that this story, as you have already said, did not arise today, it has been going on for a long time, and obviously well, it is on the surface that they cannot be forgiven for being a jerk at once, they clearly work as an element of a certain corruption system and... which burned the whole country, and these corruption scandals, which, well , simply, well, in this tragic a time when we are suffering losses, when we are defending against human efforts, there is simply a shortage
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of everything, figuring out where to get another drone, where to somehow hit the enemy, stories like that, they first undermine... fighting capacity, morale, because, well, well, how come, we are defending the whole country, aren't we there, we are not only fighting for ourselves, secondly, i will repeat myself, it is obvious that this is a working system, i can even suspect that this information was not simply put out, published, but the players of this system must be changed, put in their place , if they had their own, maybe that too, because... why, for so many years , no one touched them, so it was beneficial to someone and someone endured this whole story, and the most terrible thing is that all these scandals, well, yes , if the corrupt official was caught there and so on, but they show one thing: about the weakness of the state,
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the weakness of the state repressive apparatus, the weakness of the security forces, uh, that's the problem, well, there is something more. you know, that's why we have a failed mobilization and a lost information campaign, when i already said that from the sacred duty of protecting one's country, it... has turned into a farce and many people are disappointed and do not want to go to serve and to a large extent thanks to such figures, because there is no justice, someone is redeemed, whoever has money, whoever is poor, he must go, and well, if you pull the strap for everyone and for corrupt people, for those who redeemed themselves and for their family to protect, this is a big dad... injustice, and the lack of this justice greatly affects
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the morale, the country, i will tell you more, it has all the dirty stories that it would not have suffer the state, the state, i mean, we are not ukrainians, we are not taking part in this, but i mean all the officials, security forces, and so on in... she finds out the most terrible state of affairs, the front, resistance and survival of the nation, incredible funds appear in the foreground, which are concentrated in the same paws, but imagine, if in a circle there is what was given to the top, then so that they are not touched all this time, multiply this amount by 10 boldly, and such funds accumulate. in quotation marks , the average civil servant, that’s not
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the cabinet of ministers and so on, that is, here at the front, the fighters are dropped, i am constantly begging for volunteers, funds to ensure combat capability and most importantly survivability, what is the survivability of the battalion, that is, if there is something to fight for , fpv drones, surveillance drones, whatever... technical capabilities are more lives saved, less losses, that's it the funds on the sofas are being measured, they are all stained with the blood of ukrainians for the defenders, and this is their activity, this is not just illegal commercial corruption activity, this is the murder of our soldiers, well, the trials there are not yet completed, there are already the participants in these stories, these searches, at least have already declared that they will defend their honest name in court. but you said such a thing in the conversation that the interesting question is why they have not been touched yet, and perhaps
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some kind of redistribution is taking place, if i understood you correctly, yes exactly, well, it also lies on the surface, if they were given in such to accumulate these funds on such a large scale, it means that they were not touched, why were they not touched, because they shared with someone, why were they arrested now for almost the third year of a full-scale war, and why have all this been made public now, well, i assume that this it happens because they want to put someone in their place, and they either didn't give them enough, or they were greedy and didn't share it, i don't know what the reasons are, because, to be honest, i already perceive it as from a different reality. we have a slightly different reality here, you have a slightly different one at the front, to put it mildly
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reality, this is the truth, and this is to observe, well, the first thing is that it doesn’t enter my head in any way, i still, to be honest, protect my psyche and the soldiers, because there when we get to starlink, then you can read the news and filter it very very strongly, but well, it's just very resonant. news recently, so it is impossible to miss them, so we come to you, we come to you not always with good news, peter, and you do not allow that just like this, finally, maybe someone in the political leadership lost patience, and these the footage we see is a demonstration of the will to fight corruption, god willing, if it is so, then judging by the scale and orderliness and systematicity of such scandals, eh, then... if the political will and zero
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tolerance for corruption finally appeared to corruption in general, then large-scale arrests, detentions and so on are waiting for us there, and accordingly there should be consequences, and what consequences, confiscation, well, after the court decision, of course, again, we are fighting for the preservation of the ukrainian state with all its consequences, then laws we have to adhere to... accordingly, after the court decision, total confiscation and maximum terms up to extreme measures , we have everything for life there, but... anyway, well, you and i, well, if we were adults, why now with this intolerance appeared, and why, why weren't they cracked open at the start, so to speak, well, give them their business, yes, because it can't be called some kind of work and so on, this is criminal
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activity, even if there they declare that there is an honest name, well, how can i explain it. a middle-ranking official on the origin of such funds, well, there is no way he can, these could be fantastic stories, i used to travel there, i remember during the fight against corruption, there were some such, well, it's not even funny anymore, and i don't want to joke about it, i wanted i would wish there that, god forbid, they would not experience what the ukrainian soldier is going through now on the front line... a soldier and i would not wish this to anyone, but understanding the scale, understanding, looking at these wads of money, pressed bedside tables with dollars, i i understand that as much as possible useful things to buy in order to protect the lives of the boys and to really bring victory closer, let's just pretend that
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6 million dollars in cash were found in this tetyana krupii's apartment, how many drones could it be? for you to purchase? very simple, well, $300-$400 a drone, that's about three drones for $1000 on average, so we calculate that 3 thousand drones would be possible, 300 drones is, well, you can fight at the battalion level for six months without denying yourself in terms of ramming the occupier and maybe even moving forward little by little, so this... gives the impression, i also wanted to raise a very brief topic with you, the law enforcement officers there, when they conducted these searches, they even said that they said that these medical officials provided services to people who wanted to avoid mobilization, their services cost from two to five thousand there dollars for a reference, obviously you among the military also discuss this topic,
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what rates do you know, if known, of course, unfortunately, i do not have it. because if, well, don't discuss it, i understood the speech, what it was about, look, when a full-scale war began, well, me and my brothers, voluntarily went and started there first as a volunteer battalion, then when irpin buchaga came to us after storming there, well, kyiv on that side, debarishivka on that side as well. and when the enemy retreated, we made a decision, after we saw the terror in buch, in irpin, the killed ukrainians, in the ukrainian villages, when they were working there around baryshivka, we made a decision that we would enter the regular units and mobilize there in the ranks of the national guard, and since that time, to
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be honest, for short periods of time, we are constantly, unfortunately, in the very hot spots they already started there in rubiznytsynetsk, there were battles near horlivka, zaytsevo, kurdnyumivka, well, there is bakhmut, ardiivka, now in the siverskyi direction we are holding back assaults, and i don’t get to rest there very often, especially to engage in political or other work there, and i, well, i don’t no desire, no no somehow there or... time even more or less civil topics, something in the seeds of processes that are not clear to me, yes, but of course this too, i have never seen in the official press releases there, more precisely very rarely see when law enforcement officers they even announce some estimates, for which figure this or that official gave some
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certificates, and you personally, you personally, considering that this story was very revealing, reported... about it, this story in khmelnytskyi, and in kharkiv there is a story, this cash is spread out on sofas, do you believe in some kind of fair justice? no, why? i'm starting to believe, you know, in the processes in which we participate, we measure any process by one category, efficiency. i will start to believe in the justice of the courts. of ukraine only after how officials in the good sense of the word will start hanging on poles. well, when the violence starts, i think there should still be a fair trial. well, i'm talking about this, that after the verdicts of the courts, there will be confiscation, there will be real terms of clarification, there will be, well , this whole story is uncompromising there,
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let's conduct an experiment, well, i was contused there three times, i don't remember the beginning, but you head of the light, name two officials who went to prison for corruption in the last 5-10 years there, the east, you the east, the east is difficult for me, well if we... about the top officials, of course, about the top officials, well, yes, of course, yes, but, i can't remember, maybe, maybe someone there, well, here, here, here is an indicator, in the benches of justice, judiciary in ukraine, whoever has money, he can buy off the army, from any duties. well, of course, while the topic resonates, that's why i think it was leaked, or with the intention of not silencing this topic, or well... while it resonates, of course, that there will be no opportunity, as long as the attention of the masses people will switch to another, more resonant one
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topic or something more important, unhealthy processes will begin, let me be frank, the court will be postponed several times, considered, it will take a very long time, until the actualization of the topic does not decrease in society, until the control of society... and journalists does not decrease, and then negotiations will begin, and god forbid i be wrong. petro, and the last question, who do you think should lead the fight against corruption in ukraine? well, in the absence of such a scenario that you described, the fight against corruption will be successful when it is very it sounds pathetic, well, unfortunately, in no other way, i... studied the experiences of other countries that successfully fought with these shameful processes, because corruption, it kills the state, kills
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the people, one way or another, slowly, though, like smoking or alcohol, but nevertheless it destroys irreversibly, therefore it is necessary that the society itself has zero tolerance for this, simply not accepting corruption, we have... that part of society that instead of condemning these processes would like to take their place , yes, well, i frankly say, er, from this begins, if you talk about a specific leader, there are people who are not corruptible, who can pull this job, but they will not be able to work effectively unless there is a whole institution like them, that is, when there is a department of this institution with... focused on the destruction of corruption in the country, not on the change of players, not on the change of flows, not on the political conjuncture, but really independent and
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their ideology will be eradicated and the destruction of corruption, then this institution will achieve its goal very quickly, believe me, this is a plus of the irreversibility of the punishment , this should suppress the corrupt courts themselves, and we have , to put it mildly, a small part of corruption in the courts. i am now being ironic about this , and well, it is a circular story, we are there, i don’t know, there are statistics now, but it seems to me that, well, in some ways we are the last, but if there was an international competition among countries on corruption, then we would the jury included, thank you very much, petro kuzyk, callsign apostle, commander of the freedom battalion, rubizh offensive brigade of the national guard of ukraine, we talked about the latest scandals. searches during which officials, so to speak, i would say, the middle ranks found millions of dollars in cash. thank you very much. well, what do you think about
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the detention of medical officials and the cash that law enforcement officers find in their possessions during searches. is it possible to combat this, or are ukrainian law enforcement officers interested in combating this practice from your point of view. you can, of course, leave your comments in the chat under this video, but we also asked about it from people who live in sumy, which is close to the front line. and in khmelnytskyi itself. where actually and searches took place at tetyana krupa, who has now been taken into custody, look, well, it is very difficult, our country is in corruption, and what do you think, the same, it will never stop, maybe in 100, our lawyers are there, maybe, well, not us , that is, even your generation, no, if she demanded these 6 million, probably, not everyone would have given her, themselves. wearing, just as putin was elected, the russians themselves raised him, so we also raise these corrupt people, i guess, please, you lie nicely, like at a resort,
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his trunks are so nice, fun, yes... i liked the photo and he himself, like you think who and how to stop it? they won't stop it, because it's a system, it's necessary tanya krupa, it's cheap for me, so take tania krupa and say who in kyiv received it from you, who will appoint you, the military constantly needs help, ordinary people, i receive a pension of 3,000 , and here every time i go i will put 20 uah, 50 uah, that's the kind of money to have today. and this is how you steal , do you believe that the criminal case will come to a logical conclusion, i do not believe, we do not know, since in our country corruption will exceed everything, the criminal case will not come to an end, this it's just a disgrace, i don't know how to describe it, it 's just what we, as residents of ukraine, see, and what some foreign partners see, yes, somehow the funds are sent on time.
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they do this, i am ashamed, it is very unfortunate that this is happening in our country, especially during the war, that these are here, in general, in the last week there have been several such news, what do you see housewives, what can you say about this, how to fight it in general , maybe, well, it seems to me that there should be a punishment for this, and as it is there, well, our law is not for... everyone, well, that's how it is in practice, sometimes people allow themselves to do this, that's all. well, it was not for nothing that i asked our previous guest what comes to his mind when he sees footage from raids, photos of cash spread out in the apartments of middle- ranking officials, i personally like the publication of the "time" publication from years ago, here we show the authorship of simon shuster. if you remember, a year ago in ukraine this
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publication was called: almost anti-ukrainian, almost like it was written in the kremlin. in fact, the columnist wrote about the cold reception then zelenskyi in the usa, including the western elites from the war, the difficult situation at the front. scandals in ukraine, which, as the author believed at the time, threaten to undermine the trust of western partners. and i decided to recall some lines of this great article today. against the backdrop of pressure on ukraine due to corruption, i may have naively believed that the officials would think twice. bribes or misappropriating public funds, but when i told one of the president's top advisers about it in early october, he asked me to turn off the recorder so i could speak more freely. simon, you people are wrong they steal like the last time, - he said. masi nayem, captain of the armed forces of ukraine and founder of the public organization princip of the miller law company, joined our broadcast. i congratulate you. good day i wish you health. do you agree with that?
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they steal like an uprising, they steal as usual, they steal as usual, and you know why they say like the last, because they say the war, everything can stop at any moment and you have to steal as much as possible, i think that was the idea, please tell me, but svinarchuk, when he stole, it was also at the last moment, and when lazrenko stole, it was also a war, well, we will not justify everything with war, okay, but how, i understood you, and how do you... explain the intensification of not just searches, but show searches of these medical officials, and recently also the officials of the central committee show how they fight corruption and expose it, which seems to be spreading there in ukhylants, to people who want to avoid the army and so on, is this some kind of show story, or is this a real struggle? you know that, they came out on their own, because this is actually, well,
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a function... not only of the security organs to prevent this, but also to prevent it, that is, they now sign that they cannot and did not do anything to prevent this from happening, they are now just as extras, we hired an entire sbi as extras for the fact that we have corruption and so on, so that we don't know that we have corruption, there is what you did as a system to prevent this from happening, what should be done, i know, share, zalbki, the question is, look at what? and people steal because there is no responsibility, i.e. the principle of inevitability of punishment is not works, why? because this young lady perfectly understands that if she stole 6 million dollars for some cheap 20 thousand dollars, she is corrupting the police or the sbi, why is she corrupting a judge with some cheap 100,000 dollars, in principle she will get away with it, so why not beauty, more moreover, what court decisions...
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