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the new week continues, live on espresso tv, and we're back with our second hour, where we discuss, debate, analyze, and of course, offer some definite solutions. so, today we will talk about the announced topics about nato, about possible compromises, about ukraine's accession to nato and our ukrainian territory we will talk. about the elections in the united states of america, because it has a huge impact, including the situation in ukraine, because the elections are less than a month away, and of course, the ideological, informational, cultural front, traditionally an overview of everything that is happening in our ukrainian space . khrystyna yatskiv joins us now, khrystyna, good evening, good evening andriy and all our listeners and viewers, i'm a little late. i am asking again for my

entourage, i am somewhat distant now, but this does not relieve me of responsibility for an honest conversation with you, andrei and with our viewers. you, thank you first of all, first of all, for outlining the topics, i would like to take a short note and say that october 7 will forever be associated with the anniversary of putin's birth, unfortunately... and with the beginning of another war in the middle east, and the actual war in the middle east, which lasts a long time, and it is a little unusual for israel and for its opponents, but it is very effective for ukraine and for all of us, so i i once again call on people who take to heart and mind... what is happening in our

country, to observe and be attentive to the actions of various states, various countries, in particular in the middle east as well. well, regarding the so-called birthday of the so-called president putin, to be honest, i didn’t even think about it today, i mentioned it several times there, well, because it’s being written about in social networks, but to be honest, somehow it’s completely unavoidable, because we understand that we are at war with russia. and this war, it does not depend on putin alone, the whole of russia is at war, not only putin is at war, so i think that we should be absolutely indifferent to whose birthdays there are, the most important thing for us is that these racists, these occupiers, these terrorists should not be in ukraine and nothing of theirs either, in fact, there was nothing associated with them, but as for the fact that we need to follow everything that is happening in the world, here i completely agree, both with what ...

is now in the middle east, and with what what is in china, and according to what is in the united states of america, we should certainly talk about it all with one goal, because the situation in ukraine also depends on the general paradigm, on the general geopolitical chessboard of everything that happens in the world. we are inextricably linked with the world, we are inextricably linked with civilization, and therefore all these things are absolutely interconnected. today, as i am already on... we have three topics, and of course we will start with what is currently being extremely discussed, nato, the peace formula, possible concessions, it is circulating in the foreign press, i just read another one even in front of our air excerpt from the article financial times, well, let's talk about it now in order, so the peace formula of the discussion around possible compromises between ukraine and russia and hypothetical ones. of our country to nato, but first

of all, i will once again remind you about our survey, by the way, in the context of this, we are asking our viewers today, do you think ukraine's accession is possible? to nato until the liberation of the occupied territories. if yes, 0800 211 3801, if not, 080 211 382. absolutely free, pick up your phones or smartphones, call, and at the end of this hour, in less than 40 minutes, we will pick you up final results. so, let's add a little background on why we're talking about this. ukraine and its western allies. create a possible compromise, according to which kyiv can receive either membership in nato or some similar guarantees, in exchange for a diplomatic solution to the issue of territories occupied by russia in the future. the financial times writes about it, and it is one of the most discussed articles in

the last few days. in fact, we are talking about the model, in particular, so writes the financial times, according to which west germany existed for a long time. and we now see the graphic on the screen, western diplomats and an increasing number of ukrainian officials are inclined to think that significant security guarantees can become the basis of a negotiated settlement in which russia will retain de facto, and not de jure, control over this or part of the ukrainian territory that it's currently under occupation, and another article that i just talked about, ukraine is having private peace talks. the agreement with about the peace agreement in general, the financial times also writes, the publication writes that behind closed doors there are some certain conversations going on according to what i just voiced, but what is interesting in this article is that in principle i also thought,

guessed, quote, although it is doubtful that putin has an incentive to agree to negotiations, land in exchange for peace as long as he believes that his powers can still defeat him. to sew their successes, i.e., that we have repeatedly said to you that russia will fight until it sees an opportunity to fight for itself, and is absolutely not interested in any agreements, it needs the absolute destruction of our country, and this it is clear that this is an existential war, it is a war for the territories as well, but not only for the territories, it is a war for the whole country and for all ukrainians. at the same time, there is a reaction from our ukrainian experts, in particular, the diplomat valery chaly emphasized the incorrectness of such analogies, analogies with germany, yes, in the times after the second world war. valery chaly wrote on his facebook page: germany was first divided, and then the issues of guaranteeing

security for ferent west berlin were already resolved. in the case of ukraine, everything is the opposite, a compromise the decision will divide the country, perhaps forever. that is, we see that opinions are completely different, a different vision, a different understanding of what is proposed and what is happening, it consists in the fact that someone believes that this is actually a selective attitude, relatively speaking, to certain areas of our country, which are occupied, de facto, will strengthen this border and de facto make it, well, at least on average. short-term perspective, in fact these regions will be occupied by russia. from another point of view, which is offered to us today by experts and foreign press, it is about the fact that it is necessary

to end the war in some way, that the war has reached a dead end, supposedly, that the maintenance of exactly the intensity that exists today is not forever, and it is necessary to think about how to get out of this... situation, especially taking into account the fact that resources are limited in ukraine as well, so this is roughly the picture that you and i are creating now, and it suggests that there are indeed, perhaps, some conversations, some discussions at the level of our western partners, regarding what vision there may be in ending the war, or at least at some ... certain stage of the end of the war. again, all these statements, all these opinions, all these articles do not pretend to be absolutely obvious and truthful, because in reality there is such a thing as an array of facts, an array of actions, an array of

some events that can happen during the next time, and which either they will thwart such a plan or they will confirm it. such a plan, and again , i say once again and i always emphasize, the keys or the key to the resolution of the war, to the end of the war, lies not in ukraine, not in brussels. and not in washington, it lies precisely in moscow. as long as moscow will have the opportunity to fight, as long as moscow will have the opportunity to destroy our country, it will do so. such is its essence, absolutely terrorist, absolutely imperial essence. and therefore, most likely , the main measures that can be applied now are such help to ukraine, to ukraine, which will force moscow after all. or to make certain concessions, or to end the war in ukraine in general. well, regarding

this, i have big doubts so far, at least with regard to nato, we see different positions, that is, we understand that there is a position of the united states of america, there is a position of the federal republic of germany, as far as i understand, they are not quite ready for ukraine to fully join nato. therefore, allegedly, in particular, at the same anniversary 25th ramstein, which will take place. already in the new week, i.e. the current week, they will offer, perhaps, some formula on how to support ukraine, or how to provide guarantees for ukraine, in particular, for example, regarding the supply of weapons, or some other formulas, or provide ukraine with the so- called candidacy for membership in of the north atlantic alliance, this option is also being considered, the position of hungary and slovakia is also interesting here, because they are two. the countries that today, de facto, are the voice of the kremlin in the civilized world, that

will do everything possible to block ukraine's accession to nato, at least they practically officially talk about it, we actually talked about it with oleksandr pali in the last part. so, roughly, this is the current vision, christina, i pass on the word, maybe there are some thoughts about it. you know, andrei. this week our program with you the new week, it seems to me, will be almost the main one, for all the time that we have been working together, because before the day of october 12, these are a few days before, i would say, right here, it seems to me that it is important for ukrainians to wait very carefully, to monitor , and generally monitor the preparation and everything that will happen. at this romstein, indeed, it will be ramstein at the level of his left states, it will be an event at which

joseph biden, as the american president, will lead defense measures, defense measures specifically for ukraine in order to somehow consolidate the 50 countries that participate, it is important to understand what joseph biden will go to, maybe in his last , this is such a... worldly way out to the people, will he go to the maximum of what he can do for the sake of ukraine, will he be careful, so that maybe not let's say, to provoke some things inside the united states in their election race, and thus not to give too many sharp pitfalls for kamala harris, who is walking now in the election race, that for me personally is very interesting and ... to watch and generally understand , to what it all fits, i don’t know if we should

expect any things that are fundamentally important for ukraine, revolutionary for the course of hostilities, but the fact that issues are being seriously discussed regarding the format of ukraine’s future entry into the north atlantic alliance is not a secret for me personally , because as early as 2023, ex-nato secretary general anderson rasmussen talked about, well, maybe this is a theoretical option, look, a certain part of ukraine is controlled by the legitimate ukrainian government, yes, a certain part is not controlled, but the sword is still better than nothing, it's better than standing in one place with the entire territory, both free and occupied, and from that moment it became clear to me personally that serious discussions are being held. regarding the format in which ukraine can become a member of the alliance, and for me

the question remained when, and now, in my opinion, this issue can be a little more clearly outlined, and - we are promised, we are promised, at least that russia will retain control for the occupied territories, de facto, but not de jure, and here in this context it is difficult to disagree with diplomat shaly. really germany and the comparison with ukraine are not so appropriate, because germany was occupied and divided, and it was effectively attacked. all control by the countries that carry out this occupation and demilitarization. ukraine is not completely occupied. ukraine is not controlled by the russian federation or any other country. ukraine retains its sovereignty. therefore, yes, analogies with germany do not seem too

logical to me here. moreover, it is difficult to imagine whether putin really started a war with ukraine in order to... shave ukraine, after all to join nato based on the results of this war, here i leave the question rhetorical and suits you, andrii. yes, i absolutely agree, by the way, that in fact our programs, including them, take place at such a historic time, and de facto, today's program, which takes place on monday, october 7, gives a pass to the program that will take place we have now i'll look exactly on october 14th, because on october 14th we will already have at least some picture of what, well why not even at least, we will have a picture of what it was decided at ramstein, what was decided based on the conclusions, based on these, i would say

that the foundation of these meetings is what will happen next, that is, today we... actually hand over the program to that program and already next monday we will talk about the results, about the results, but still, i say again, i really agree with the fact that a lot will depend on the elections in the usa, and we are talking about the thing when biden really today or will take some historic actions and... will any certain historical results, or the united states of america and the whole civilized world will wait for the elections and then make some decisions, for example, regarding the same long-range weapons, there is still no decision, and this decision, according to various options, may be the first, or actually at this ramstein, or it may already be after

the presidential elections , or it will already be postponed until the next new president, who will... already accept and think whether to do this or not, and actually here we are slowly moving to our second topic, more precisely these topics about nato, about compromises, about the united states of america, they are not mutually exclusive, they are actually one whole direction of support for ukraine and the future of ukraine, because the elections in the united states, why are we talking about them on all programs, on the espresso tv channel, not only in... week we talk on many programs about it, because it is the key to what comes next. the united states of america, one of our key players who help ukraine, and on whom it actually depends whether, in general, i'm sorry, whether ukraine will exist or whether it will be surrendered to the so-called gray area, as they say, between east and

west. so the elections in the united states of america, a ukrainian issue, in the american election. the company also has it, although it may not be super basic, but it also appears. another statement from donald trump, the candidate from the republican party, asked vladimir putin for advice on ukraine during a phone conversation in 2017, the new york times writes about this, in particular. in fact, during this conversation, putin tried to sway trump to think against ukraine. quote on the screen. the russian president took advantage of this. he launched into a lengthy monologue about corruption in ukraine. trump was restrained in his response, disagreeing with putin and not defending ukraine, but he acknowledged that russia's dispute with ukraine is an obstacle to his goal of improving relations with moscow. again, this is an article in the new york

times. ah, and... we're really getting to the point that, after all, november 5 is important for our country, and it's important who wins, and it's important what the point of view of that person who will win, in relation to ukraine, and in particular, in relation to trump. trump is such a controversial person, so emotional, who, i'm sorry, has seven fridays a week, about which we can't really. to have a definitive idea of ​​what he will do, that is, i, for example, cannot say to myself 100%: sorry, trump, we are evil there, well, as many believe, and yes... i myself cannot affirm and conditionally saying something opposite, that is, some compromises with russia, because trump still sympathizes with russia. in particular, regarding trump, too

one more piece of information, us presidential candidate trump also spoke at a campaign rally in the city of butler, where he was assassinated in july, we remember that too, and now you can also remember how it happened. he was joined on stage by none other than elon musk, the famous billionaire, the ceo of spacex, as well as x, actually, the former twitter and a number of other companies, musk actually endorsed trump, although he had done it all the time before, but now he already made it officially, he did it at a pre-election rally, that is, he became such a vip campaigner for trump, well... let's listen to what musk, in particular, said. this is an unusual election. the other side wants

to take away your freedom of speech. they want to take away your right to own a gun. they want to effectively disenfranchise you. president trump must win to preserve the constitution. he has to win to... preserve democracy in america, and in response, trump promised that the us would land on mars by the end of his presidential term, so that's the information, and that's the opinion presidential candidate donald trump. well, khrystyna, here is actually a really interesting question, and everything that we talked about before about ramstein, about possible negotiations, about the possible accession of ukraine to nato, all of this actually rests on the presidential elections,

because no matter what decided on ukraine's accession to nato, if a candidate conditionally wins, who conditionally after his victory will consider that ukraine should not join nato under any circumstances, by the way, as the vice-presidential candidate from respublikansk said. he said that it was our plan is that ukraine, well, will not be a member of nato, yes, but will receive weapons, that is, that was the opinion there, and that is why all these things that we are talking about today, they can actually turn to mount drigom on november 5, because even as of today , no one knows, i emphasize, no one knows who will become the president of the united states, because the chances, according to all polls, according to all forecasts... are approximately 50 to 50, you have your word, khrystyna, but i am interested in this specific situation, which we are talking about this week, only one thing: who who, elon musk,

taylor swift or elon musk's taylor swift, because taylor swift, i will remind you, has crazy capital, image capital, among americans, there are reasons for that, ukrainians may not always understand what kind of phenomenon this is. and so on, but the fact that this person, with his word, with his little tweet, can influence the course of an election race in the united states, should not cause any doubt in anyone. after all, it seems to me that elon musk is something similar. this is, in principle, a person who is a product of capitalism in the good sense of the word, because er... after all, the united states, as a country that gave the appropriate plan, raised, ah, someone will call it the genius of elon musk, yes, but at least

raised a very, very, very unusual person who has, has his influence on the processes of the world, uh, and many other things, eh, so it will be interesting to watch the further development of events here, not so much time. we don't have much time left, i would honestly like to look at it completely from the side and feel only sports curiosity, but we are in a situation where we feel absolutely involvement in the processes that are currently unfolding and continuing in the received states, i don't like this feeling when, but, but i, let's say... so i admit it, we now really depend on what will happen on november 5 and on that , how events will develop, from the first decisions of the new president.

from the change in the rhetoric of the new president, because we understand that what each of the candidates says before the election and what their activities turn out to be after the election can be radically, can be radically different from one in this regard, many people really do not consider donald trump as dangerous for ukraine as, well, for example, ugh, some others, even in our country, even in our political one. native analytics, but less so, the united states and biden's last exit, that's where i would definitely concentrate and come back to october 12, everything that happens after november 5, will happen after november 5, and until that moment we as a country still have it is necessary to live, and it is desirable, it is desirable to become for joseph biden a counterweight to his decision to leave

afghanistan, again. i share my exclusive opinion, i do not claim any, shall we say, objective analysis, this is a view, just a view, and the fact that donald, the fact that joseph biden and his administration made a decision at the time to withdraw, withdraw their troops and generally withdrawing his influence from the processes in afghanistan, will enter the biography of the current american president and ... the old will become a defining marker when future generations will talk about him and his administration, few can say that this the decision was positive or negative, it was what it was, but a large number of people both inside the united states and ultimately in the world weighed and consider it a manifestation of weakness, if joseph biden, as extremely

powerful. and a professional politician together with his administration will go to balance that decision with a certain strong, certain strong proposal in relation to the war between ukraine and russia, then i think it would give a certain impetus and a good inertia for kamala harris and the democrats in general, with their values, with them very often such a hard ... swing, but a very strategic vision for the future, you see, friends, does anyone actually think that biden's decision, biden's hypothetical decision, to give ukraine the opportunity to strike on the territory of russia, for example, will harm kamala harris, because it will give trump the opportunity , divens, his supporters to talk about what you see, in fact the biden administration, the white house,

the current government. democrats are stimulated by the alleged war, that is, trump constantly says that i am for peace, when he was asked at the debates, are you for the victory of ukraine or are you for peace, then trump said, i am in favor of ending this war, but he did not say anything about the victory of ukraine. that is, either this is his position today, or this is the concept of the election campaign, or this is really his point of view, because he very often praises putin, he says that putin, well, that is friendly to him. the person with whom he will talk, with whom he will have some common points of contact and so on and so on, that is, the position of the biden administration here, it also depends on the fact that there will be an election 5 november, from the fact that, so that it does not harm, there may be some definite decision on the other side, as certain guarantees, or a certain step.

regarding the possible hypothetical accession of ukraine to nato, as such the first, the first step, the first step, at least in this long process, it can also be, so we are actually watching, and in general, i have been saying for the last probably six months that the key decisions, regarding ukraine, we can hardly expect key decisions until november 5, because... everyone will wait for the elections, because these decisions will be necessary to be implemented by the new president, the new administration, a decision can be made, but either kamala karis or donald trump will still need to implement them, and in the end i will make one small remark here, regarding afghanistan, if i am not mistaken, the initial decision to withdraw from afghanistan was made by donald trump, not joe biden simply.