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this is the most important thing every thursday at 9:15 p.m. in the project velikiy lviv speaks on the air of the espresso tv channel. freedom in the mornings is only the most important thing. we talk about topics that others are silent about. we pay attention to details that others do not notice. one ether is one topic that we explore from different angles. now 20 minutes, because we value your time. watch at... at 9:10 a.m. on espresso or at any convenient time on radio svoboda youtube. we are coming back. so in the capital and in the kyiv region, an air campaign has been announced anxiety. there are reports of some more shachet flying around the capital, so take cover. and from the shelter you can

monitor our airwaves and of course what you can donate, support our collection for drones and means of electronic warfare, let me remind you that 3.5 million need to be collected, and as of this morning we can already conclude that it is not much, but there are already 5,500 uah, not the worst, but much more is possible, and in fact we encourage you to do so, so at the same time it will be interesting for mr. zgorets, he will be with us a little. later to ask what kind of new shaheda it is fly around the capital, because at least now we do not know from our air forces that these are shock, reconnaissance drones, or perhaps combined ones, as they have already stated. in general, if we are talking about drones, then lukashenko has already officially said: you can shoot them down, you can't shoot them down, you have to shoot down all these unmanned aerial vehicles that fly to belarus, actually quite often now...

fly into the territory of belarus, very often fly along the border, so carefully that it is more difficult to fix them, fly low and physically, fly low at low frequencies, and actually very often now shaheds, shaheds fly even in broad daylight, we are used to attacks mainly at night, now also during the day, and, as our defenders of the sky say, during the day, these are mostly shaheds with a reconnaissance function, that is, they work as a scout . drones, so that later, or the next night, or a little later, they can work with the combat unit. we just had guests, precisely on this topic, a week ago there was a resolution of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe regarding missing persons, prisoners of war and civilian prisoners as a result of the actual russian aggression, this is such a little bridge, because right now we are going to ask the people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko about the session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe in straza.

mr. oleksiy, good morning, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, i congratulate you. what do you personally expect from this paris session, and do we have to tense up and wait for another scandal, because, as far as i know, orbán's speech and debate are planned? the pore session took place last week, and orben was not there, fortunately. what do you say, they say that on wednesday there will be a speech by orbán and a debate, but this is definitely not the case dude, we have meetings four times a year, the autumn session was held last week, the next session will be at the end of january, maybe we are talking about the european parliament, and there really will be meetings of the european parliament this week, well, orban, of course, it can be there to speak, especially since hungary is currently presiding. in the european union, and if we are talking about

the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, which you are currently showing on the screens, then last week we managed to adopt an important resolution on ukrainian prisoners and captured... civilians, prepared by its committee on migration of refugees and displaced persons, guys, which i have the honor to lead, and this is the first such big resolution on all ukrainian prisoners, on all ukrainian captured civilians, and well, this is really a very important resolution, and it was adopted unanimously, and of course there is no such resolution , which will lead to the fact that putin will automatically... return all the prisoners to us there, leave ukraine, pay reparations and so on, but this is still a mechanism of pressure on russians on russia and on russian officials, there, for example, call for sanctions against all who is involved in the deportation, conviction,

torture, other illegal actions, against our prisoners and captured civilians, this is important because it will improve their condition a little bit, their situation even there now in... obolon, also there is a call and support for the exchange of all on everyone, what is important is the demand that the red cross see our prisoners there, which is also important in order to at least somehow support them in captivity at least minimally, well, that is, this is an important resolution for thousands of ukrainian families who, unfortunately, suffer from , it's not easy, but it's a crazy pain, when every day they feel powerless, and their relatives and loved ones. but we have already started, mr. oleksiy, we mentioned orbán a little bit, so let's continue, because everything is the same with hungary and slovakia, it all continues and, well, it will continue, because orbán and fitzo themselves declare that as long as they are in power , then they will, well, in fact

, put a shoe in our wheels on our way to nato, to the eu, and to any help. so, we are now counting on military aid in the amount of 6.6 billion. hungary vetoes, but the europeans, their foreign relations service is looking for options, and now there is such a concept to actually drop down, to make some such voluntary donations, voluntary contributions from different countries, to accumulate this amount, how do you see the actual perspective of this initiative, will it be successful, as you think, and about the terms, of course, you are interested, look, well, actually, what is obvious there. orban, fitson are our friends, this is a fact, but europe has been quite effectively consulting with them all these years, and all the necessary decisions are being made, and even fitso said there yesterday, and at this meeting with shmyhal, and by the way, in nato, we are cold

about ukraine in nato, but we will support the eu, so i think that the european union will sort this out, with all due respect to hungary and slovakia, but no.. . these funds and the economy that allows all this are formed by other countries, and they will not allow themselves to be blackmailed here in matters of principle for them, and this is a matter of principle, because it is a matter of security, so i do not think that here there will be problems, i think that the european union will bypass these problems and figure out how to do it so that orban could not block it, prevent it, as far as nato is concerned. the situation is more complicated, but here everything will depend on who will be elected president of the usa, we are waiting for the meeting of this romshtein at the end of this week, it is very important that we receive some kind of signal about ukraine's membership in nato, but i repeat, everything will be decided after how we will understand who is the president of the united states, and again, the united states if

it wishes, if such a desire appears in the united states, then whoever is the president of the united states, and with hungary and with slovakia, they will figure it out, the main thing is that they have such a desire, but in general you are in... nato is a consensus. decision-making algorithms have not been changed yet. and accordingly, consensus is somehow difficult if you two nato members conduct absolutely pro-russian or pro-chinese rhetoric. how did those with whom you communicate in europe react and how do they generally react after, for example, the prime minister of a nato country, fico, says it's all the west and the european union. force to continue the war and it would be good to hit brussels with a missile, that's what he said the day before, how do they react to this? well , this is some kind of, frankly, crazy statement, i don't know how they are reacting to it, because he said only yesterday, we will see some reactions from

the european side today, well, but i would like to see some reaction, because really, this is completely beyond the limit everything, and the statements of orban's right-hand man recently. about the fact that hungary and ukraine were advised not to fight, but to surrender and are not going to fight themselves, and then what kind of alliance member is this, which, if they are not ready to fight for themselves, then they are not ready to fight for anyone no... they are going to fight for others, all the more so, and then the question arises, what is the meaning of this, so it is obvious that fizo and orban are a huge problem, well, but still it is a problem today, well, ours too too, but first of all europe and the west, and i repeat, their wishes can completely put them in place. mr. oleksiy, four months have actually passed since the update. authorities in the european union, after all these changes and new appointments, ursula fondeen remained, and

we cannot help but be happy, is there already a feeling that it has stabilized, that already all the new, who came, took their positions, and we already understand how we will move forward together with the eu. well, four months have passed since the elections, and the decisions, for example, the composition of the european commission became clear just a couple of weeks ago. and it will actually start work not now, but even later, well, a new team, that's why, but really we finally understand and see the team that will lead the european union for the next five years, and this team is absolutely positive for ukraine, ursula fonderlaje, one of our greatest allies, and it's obvious that for her, ukraine's membership in the eu, ukraine's rapprochement with the eu, helping ukraine in the war, these are her legacies and... her legacy, which she will obviously be, on which she will work, her

priority. kaya kales, high representative for foreign policy, well, i don't know what could have been better here. estonians understand the threat from russia the most, well, like all the baltic countries, the most after ukraine, and kaya kalas in particular, i think that her priority in her position is absolutely obvious, it is counteraction to russia, further. kubilius, a lithuanian, the former prime minister, whom i know well, the european commissioner for defense, and this is a very important position for us now, and there is a super ally of ukraine, he also headed a group of friends in ukraine, ukrainians, well, lithuanian again, that is why the composition of the european commission and the european parliament, in which orbán's party has strengthened its influence to a certain extent, such extreme right-wing parties, but it is not critical, there is absolutely... the majority of such moderate forces that support ukraine, so everything

is positive there, and it is precisely this that gives us reason for optimism . first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada oleksandr kornienko, the vice-speaker of the council, said yesterday that ukraine has a chance to join nato sooner than, and then even join the european union. well, a statement is a statement, do you see any confirmation of such a logic of events, because... you know, as they say, the situation from the inside? look, well , actually, i can't say that it's unbelievable, because joining nato is a political decision, and as soon as there is a political decision in the key countries, the usa, germany, then, well, others, then it can really happen very quickly. the european union is a lot of bureaucracy, a lot documents, a lot of work that needs to be done, whatever the political will. and that's why the story is like this, we cannot join the european union sooner than in a few years,

i'm saying this roughly, but we can join nato if we wish, we can convene an extraordinary nato summit, we can then quickly ratify, we can join nato theoretically in a few months, but in the european union it is a different story, i think that ukraine's chances of joining the european union are close to... if only ukraine itself is our power here does not belong, but the chances of ukraine joining nato are more doubtful at the moment, especially considering the russian aggression against ukraine, so if theoretically we can join nato faster than the european union, but the question is that if the european union is really very, very likely, then with nato is much more complicated. mr. oleksii, thank you, oleksii goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, by the way, just today. orbán will speak at the european parliament and we will have our correspondents working there, so we

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you, i congratulate our viewers. what is flying over kyiv now, they say of an unknown type, some kind of drones, what is it? the information is really interesting, we hope that after some time, by communicating with the military or specialists who have such an existing tangent to those models that are lost in kiev, we will know which models, or whether there are new ones, the enemy is now trying to use in our airspace, we know that usually there were different types of shaheds, we got used to them, then such a gerbera appeared, a cheaper version of a drone, which... the main thing is, let's say , a distraction, partly reconnaissance, these gerberas are launched together with shaheds, and we know that last month there was the largest number of enemy drones of the hekber shahed type that were... launched in ukraine 1,330, if i am not mistaken now, 90 percent of them were shot down, but we can see that the enemy is definitely trying to expand the range of means

intelligence impressions, well, just as it does in ukraine, so we are at the stage of such a dynamic development of the means of attack intelligence. mr. serhii, or those migs who flew up yesterday, they beat with daggers, but we are used to those daggers, that they try and aim at the capital separately, they go separately... the fix is ​​always to beat in the old konstantinov style, in the lithuanian style, this time somehow it all came together, that is, the daggers now have new routes over the capital's airspace and then all the way to starkon. well, this is one of the stories we saw yesterday when it really coincided that the enemy hoped that this missile attack by the kemjals, primarily on the starkostantins, would be carried out through the zone... around the capital, and in this way , he probably thought that he would be lucky. we know that three rockets were launched in the direction of starokostyantynov, this is our base airfield,

which has protected aircraft facilities there, the enemy probably thinks that there are f16s, which now so regularly use various means of impact on this airfield, but with of these three launched missiles, two were just shot down over kyiv using patriots which undermined the good qualities of the patriot, which we no longer doubt, but one rocket still slipped through, it exploded somewhere in the area of ​​such airfields, we do not know the details, i think that it is probably not necessary to know, but in any case this the story really was three mi 31 planes, three launches, two missiles were shot down in kyiv region, we don't know if it's still burning, we hope so, i'm talking now about feodosia, about... these oil terminals and about these beautiful columns of smoke , it turned out that there was also this shell es and it did not help, did not protect against the fact that there

flew away, how do they manage to miss it, and can there be more such cases? well, actually, the attack on feodosia is interesting because it is really the largest russian terminal in crimea, more than in sevastopol itself. this terminal provides russian groups there, in particular there and in the kherson direction and in the zaporozhye direction through dzhanko, if we look at the map there, and the strike by ours and drones, we will probably say yes, maybe by missiles, because i will write about the strike in the last resort drones, it was quite effective, a few have seen this video which shows off the sweat nicely. the existence of explosions at this base, but why did russia not cover up, or could not cover up this base? theoretically, we have always believed that air defense in crimea is dense, because this is

such an area where the enemy tries to cover these key infrastructure facilities as much as possible, and there, by the way, near feodosia, literally 6 km away, there is a regiment of... we did a story about the russians with the s-400 complex literally yesterday, that is, this base was also covered by the s-400 at a distance of 6 km and the armor complex, when we talk about the s400, it is conventionally speaking, there is a range of 200 km plus, but at low altitudes this complex can work up to a maximum of 30 km, if it sees targets, and when we talk about a tank, then in theory it is written that there is 20 km in range, 15 km... in height, but this panther also did not work and did not ensure the downing of our drones, which suggests that the direction of drone strikes was clearly selected, or

all radars that can ensure the operation of russian air defense systems were removed , or in general, what is actually the effectiveness of these of complexes or calculations that serve these complexes is extremely low, which allows the ukrainian side to systematically implement such... strikes both on crimea and on other objects on the territory of the russian federation, we know that in addition to oil bases, which are systemic objects objects for destruction, russian arsenals with ammunition are also being destroyed, we saw last month a significant number of confirmations of how our attack drones work against russian arsenal bases. and actually, while we were talking, confirmation came that in feodosia, it continues to burn, for the second day already, another tank with fuel exploded in local pubs last night... people are asking if all the fuel was pumped out of the gas station, people are being evacuated from the neighborhood, in a word, it is burning beautifully,

some more about the blows , it's already the second vessel, you are from the baltic fleet, where are we, and where is russkaya baltika, i am talking about oleksandr obukhov, minesweeper, you were damaged, and the photo, video, it is not clear , only what and how? well, it’s true, this is already the second such russian ship in the baltic fleet, which was disabled in an unexpected way for the russians, now we see this. this engine of his is there, there is some serious damage that will force this little thing to take a long time to be repaired, which recently, by the way, in the video, we saw it from the main intelligence agency, and this is probably such a dense work of our agents in the baltic, where it is already the second the ship is disabled, so this indicates that the work of the main...

intelligence is multi-layered, multi-dimensional, in addition to the use there, the creation of drones for various purposes there, supplies for ukraine, actually, this is the creation of such an agent network that allows the destruction of enemy objects and land-sea remote control, and not some kind of attack at all, well, we understand when strategic strikes work, but i just want to understand that on the fifth of october it was our drones the uav hit ee... the russian federation in the very heart, this is the pishchan distillery near old askol, this is in the belgorod region, and then the second strike, the village of krasnoye, this is the voronezh region, and both are distilleries, i understand, symbolism for these drunkards , but whether he or such blows carry some strategic tasks, well, in any case, i think that the chief intelligence officer chooses the targets quite carefully, because

they should... first of all, well, influence the military economic potential of the enemy, i think that it is difficult for me to say that makes distilleries in addition to alcohol, but alcohol is also used for technical solutions, to ensure the operation of military equipment, in addition to copper for medical purposes, and in addition to what russians usually use for a living, so in any case i i think that these... facilities, as well as oil refineries, any complex, well, enterprises that provide processing, are important for the russian economy, so in any case, i am sure that the consequences for the enemy will be the same negative, just like the burning base, yes, so not only symbolic, as they say, the strikes, mr. sergey, thank you for commenting on the most important events of this morning, director of the information

consulting company defense express. serhii sgorets was with the audience. it 's getting close to 9:00. this is the time when we every day we remember all those who died because of the russian occupiers on our ukrainian land. a moment of silence. let's honor the memory of ukrainian soldiers and civilians with a moment of silence. of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.