glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. throughout our broadcast, we will have the following guests: yevhen dykiy, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, oleg hrybachuk, a politician and former head of president yushchenko's office, political expert yevhen magda. in the second part of our program, which will start in an hour, we will have ihor reiterovych and vitaly kulyk, political experts, we will talk about the postponed ramstein, as well as how and why the second peace summit was postponed, obviously to december 2024, and of course the statement, today's statement of volodymyr zelensky, that he expects to complete russian ukraine by the end of 2025. the war however,

before starting our big conversation, i suggest watching a video of an attack by ukrainian drones in bryansk region. the 67th arsenal of the main missile-artillery department of the ministry of defense of the russian federation was attacked this night. this arsenal has the area is about 3.5 square kilometers and is located close to the 2,000-year-old settlement of karachev. according to the words. the local governor was allegedly shot down by as many as 12 drones. watch the video of the detonation of this arsenal.

glory to the defense forces of ukraine and death to the russian occupiers. friends, we conduct polls throughout our broadcast. today we are asking you about the following: do you think that there are problems in ukraine with. freedom of speech, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a personal opinion, please write it in the comments below this video, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote on the numbers, if you see that there is a problem with freedom of speech in ukraine, 0.800 211 381, if you think that there are no problems with freedom of speech in ukraine (0800-211,382 ), all calls to these numbers are free, vote for... at the end of the program, we

will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce today's first guest, yevhen dykiy, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former platoon commander of the aidar battalion, head of the national antarctic science center, mr. eugene, i welcome you, thank you for being with us today. glory to ukraine, good evening. glory to the heroes, mr. yevgeny. let's start with zelenskyi's statement, since volodymyr zelenskyi is in croatia today, speaking at the ukraine south summit. eastern europe, he said that the situation on the battlefield in ukraine creates an opportunity to take steps to end the war unleashed by russia no later than 2025. let's listen to what the president of ukraine said. and i very sincerely urge everyone who is determined today to join in november in... december will be a chance for us

to take a step towards peace, towards stability. let's use this opportunity and make the right choice. mr. yevgeny, how likely is the end of the russian-ukrainian war by the end of 2025 ? well, you know, it's 50/50, either it will or it won't. to be honest, it seems to me that it is a completely thankless business to guess on the coffee grounds of ivan... the factors that determine whether the war will end in the 25th, 26th or 27th year there or in the 30th year, and also there are a lot of factors that determine whose victory this war will end, and to analyze them all now, well, seriously, well, no one in this world, not only us and you, but even in the best special services, the best analysts, there just isn't enough information for that, so... any such assessment

would really be more of a sort of, let's say, emotional voicing of, let's say, desires, expectations, rather than actual analysis itself, and note that in fact the statement is ... the president much more careful than what many of our media have already managed to make headlines. again, people hear what they want to hear. and here are a bunch of headlines that sound like the president said about the possibility of ending the war by the 25th year. but the president was actually told about the possibility of taking certain steps to end the war in the 25th year. so you generally understand how huge the difference is between them. messages beyond any doubt, well, actually, this is also a question about how our media works and, as far as we can say, meanings are distorted in the reporting, but i absolutely agree with the president that we have the opportunity to take very serious steps, the next question is whether we

will really use this opportunity, or whether we will neglect it, as has happened more than once, that is, whether we will take the necessary and correct steps, question two, which depends on us... and what steps our enemy will take in response, and only when both we and the enemies take all the steps we are capable of, then it will become clear when and how this war will end if we formulate the question: do i see a chance of ending the war in in the 25th year, yes, i see that there is a chance, but do i see it there, am i, for example, able to at least estimate the probabilities, no, of course, no, because there is too much uncertainty on our side, for example, absolutely even not obvious and we will pull a normal mobilization or not, whether we are ready for it as a society or not, and even more so , there is even less certainty what steps the enemy will be able to take against us, so the key here is to take the most correct steps on

our part, and then we will see, accordingly, when and with what it will end, well, ukraine is doing these the right steps, is gradually taking out warehouses with ammunition, these so-called grau and... this night, the russian grau arsenal near the border with ukraine was also hit, and our colleague serhiy zguryts, this is the director of the information and consulting company defense express, says that this is the most effective way to combat the enemy's ability to use cabs. let's hear what he said. today, there was information in the morning that an attack had been made. one more arsenal of the russian federation using our drones, that's exactly one out of six of the arsenals that played, which is located at a distance of up to 600 km there, it was struck at the arsenal, which is 14 km from the state border, this is the city of karachiv,

the russian federation, and all this just, well, indirectly affects the stocks of artillery, ammunition and kobi, all this, well, this is so far the only most such... variant of ways to reduce the potential of the russian federation. mr. yevgeny, despite the fact that the ukrainians periodically take these guns to large artillery depots and destroy the ammunition that should fly on our heads and on our heads our defenders. according to your data, russia will have enough to replenish these warehouses. in some way to reduce the reserve, as far as their economy already allows them, the military economy, to cope with it, fortunately their military economy, although they pumped it up, pumped it up very powerfully in the 23rd year, but it reached almost the upper

bar of their opportunities, that is, they produce a lot, but there is practically nowhere for them to grow, and at the same time they produce very unevenly, but as for precisely... aviation bombs, they do not produce them from the word at all, their industry does not make new aerial bombs at all now, they are busy with completely different things, they are busy with the old soviet aerial bombs, which are actually stored in these very warehouses, but they are making a system for these bombs, well relatively speaking, the wings to make this free-falling bomb glider, and they are working on a control system to make this bomb well... not highly accurate, they luckily didn't manage to do that, but compared to the basic soviet, it becomes an order of magnitude more accurate, that is this is what they are busy with, that is, they modify these old soviet bombs, which makes these bombs, well, incomparably more dangerous, because when the basic basic soviet

version falls 2-3 km from the point where the plane released it, and these fly, well, the best modifications to 90 km, most modifications up to 70 km, this is a fundamental difference. but the key thing is that they are modifying these old soviet ones, they are not producing new aerial bombs at all now, so the more we destroy these bombs in warehouses, but they are just... well, this is not a renewable resource, they are for russia, and the main thing is that, unlike artillery shells, which also have to be destroyed in warehouses, which are also, let's say, unintentionally, but comrade ying saved them from artillery shells, if, by the way, it were not for korean supplies , they would already have a very acute hunger for shells, well, korea saved, but according to air bombs, korea will not save like that, because korea has a very small, very small, well dwarfed, i would say aviation. and a proportionally small stock of air bombs, that is, if it is artillery that korea has always

bet on, and there are thousands of guns and millions of them projectiles, and air bombs are far from their main weapon, they never seriously calculated their aviation, but they understood how much superiority in the sky south korea and its allies have, and that is why comrade ying will not block them, the destruction of aerial bombs is critically important for us. the destruction of ballistic missiles in warehouses is also critically important for us, the russians are now releasing missiles, but the rate of release is one and a half, well, i am not talking about the wingmen, about ballistics, the rate of release of ballistic missiles somewhere on the order of one and a half dozen per month, it is one and a half dozen more than we would like, but it is still, well, not at all as much as is necessary to give us what is called a complete nightmare, and therefore, again , it is critically important how many missiles we we will get in the warehouses, how much will this stock of theirs decrease, that is, in fact, this is our company for

the removal of grau's arsenals, this is a very powerful move, i would say that it is a move comparable in power to the kurdish operation, so it is already very noticeable, but it will be felt even stronger, there are seven large game arsenals in the european part of russia, today we got the third one, in fact we got it. there are more warehouses, but seven are meant - these are very large ones, then there are a couple of dozen smaller ones, so we got the third of the largest ones, and besides that, we got them somewhere, it seems like two or three of them are already of medium size , so to speak , that is, it is already very important, by the way, i will remind here of our relatively recent history, you remember, after the 14th year, we regularly began to have such large chambers warehouses of the ministry of defense, and do you remember how naive ukrainian society... that's what they didn't look for, any number of reasons, starting from accidents, human

negligence, poor storage conditions, and ending even with corruption, which they allegedly wanted to cover with arson, and those few who said they were good people were russian subversives, but then they were looked at as urban lunatics, and only now, in this great war, we realized that it was just russia all these years after the 14th that was already preparing us for ... of this war, they have been systematically since the 14th year destroyed our equally large arsenals, with the expectation that when they finally came, we would simply have nothing to shoot back at, and the only thing they didn't bet on was that we would still have allies in the world, so that in fact our stocks of artillery shells ran out in the spring of 22, somewhere around the end of april we already had an acute shell crisis, and if the western supply had not begun, well, it is not at all known how events would have developed, let’s say so, on a date, so here we are finally we show them that it turns out in this game, too you can play together, and the consequences of this for russia

can be very tangible. one more operation, which will obviously affect the position of ukraine and russia, is the kurdish operation of the armed forces of ukraine. the ukrainian army has been on the territory of the russian federation for two months, what has ukraine gained and lost during this time, sir? gene from the entry of our army into the territory of russia? did not lose anything, but simply did not lose anything, and this does not mean that we do not bear losses there, we bear losses there, but we would bear them absolutely the same in the battles with the russians in other directions, but we have gained a lot, and we have not yet gained something, i emphasize the word again, the kurdish operation is not so important in a direct military sense, although it also has a certain importance, one way or another russia... to us had to transfer quite a lot of their reserves there, and moreover,

this operation actually revealed what many did not want to believe, that the russians already have very big problems with human reserves, because when you look at how they are crawling in donbas, when you look at how this attack of theirs does not stop, it adds up it is a false impression that they do not measure people, and this is not the case, they just go to abank, they do not feel sorry for them at all now, but with replenishment... there is already a big problem, and the kurdish operation in particular clearly showed that when in when they realized that they still had to seriously fight with us in the kurdish language, that the so-called thing would not get wet, then they had to remove several very combat-capable units from the ukrainian front, i.e. the same ee ee ee 106 airborne division, 1011th marine division, are units, which they removed from the kherson region and drove to the kurs region, this is not accidental, it simply showed that it turns out that there are combat-capable

russian units, all of them are now on our territory, inside russia, for such serious, let's say ... there are simply no combat-capable units left, but that is from a military point of view , the kurdish operation also gave something, but let's say, perhaps less than many expected, the transfer of hundreds of thousands of groups there did not go well, but they still decided to bet on the continuation of the offensive in donbas, but much the more important political aspect of this operation, our war shows just perfectly what we have often failed to understand when we study it. the history of various wars, that in any big serious war, the purely military aspect and the political aspect are very closely intertwined, and the dependence on both sides, that our military success largely depends on military support, and this military support largely depends on our military successes, and in this sense

the course operation had two political goals, in the west and in the east, a political goal in the west reached... completely by 100%, it was we who changed the entire discourse of discussion in the western media, let me remind you that the western media is an indicator of what western politicians and western society in general are talking about, you know, i regularly monitor the western press and orc publics, so before the start of the kursk operation, orc publics were much more pleasant to read than western media, because at least there are enough orcs. you can often laugh, they often give excuses there, it was already not funny in the western media it was, well, not just sad, but there was mourning, we were buried again, as at the beginning of the 22nd year, but we were actually mourned there already, and it was considered an absolutely generally accepted point of view that it was absolutely impossible to defeat russia by military means at all, further and from this

was where all the political constructions started, which in one way or another ended in... capitulation, veiled for better or worse, but capitulation, but after the kurdish operation, well, it has changed radically, now no one even allows themselves to talk about the fact that not russia it is possible to win on the battlefield, we are talking about something completely different, about what we lack to defeat russia on the battlefield, why we are not given what we lack, from whom it can be taken, on whom we must put pressure, yes, it doesn't mean that everything we need has been showered on us right from the corner, but pay attention again, it's about why we haven't won yet, what hasn't been added to us for this, not about whether it is possible to defeat russia at all, that is, in the west, the kurdish operation gave an absolute result, in the east it turned out to be more difficult, we expected, that the kursk operation will trigger, let's say, certain

processes in russia, in fact, it will show that the king is naked, and we were counting on... a really completely natural, let's say, characteristic of our enemies, they forgive their rulers for any atrocities, that is, any crimes , but they don't forgive weakness, and the kursk operation is a demonstration of weakness, but it hasn't worked out yet, the fact is that here we slightly underestimated how powerful russia's information forces are, unlike their army, actually on the battlefield, their... the information of the troops did their work simply brilliantly, after two or three days of the first shock, they clearly developed such an information structure, in which the events in kurshchyna are shown as some kind of a small border incident, something like a border skirmish,

well, at the very end, something like shamil basayev's raid on budzionsk, well... well , somewhere in the province, someone didn't take care, and the khokhlas took advantage, they made a kind of ala, a bad partisan raid on the rear, instead there is a maximum thrust of their offensive in donbas, the fact that they have advanced for almost a year of fighting and having lost, well, only one armored vehicle of the order of 1,800 units, but they have advanced for 20 km in a year in the direction of... rov, it is presented as a huge victory and almost a strategic success in the war as a whole, and kurshchyna against this background is depicted exactly as a border skirmish and in... the zombified russian society it really worked, this construction has so far gone wrong, but the longer we stay there, the more orcs try

to knock us out of there, and these attempts don't work, well, the sneakier this construction becomes, but here it's really a matter of time, at least we need to get a foothold there, at least we need to hold on there and repel their attacks, well, how at the most, in fact, it would be very, well, it would be very... good, if our defenders were able to significantly expand the territory under their own control, there, for example, there are two neighboring regions, belgorod and bryansk, with belgorod it is difficult, there are a lot of troops, because that's where all the backs are of the kharkiv group of orcs, with bryansk, well, in my opinion, there are more chances, well, but we will not play here, we will not, yes, we will not play brahilevich, but we have a general staff, he knows better where exactly to plan it and how. well, but i really hope that there are such plans and that we will see their implementation. thank you, mr. yevgeny, it was yevhen dyky, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. friends, we continue to work live on

the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. please, join our pages and also take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following: do you think that there are problems with freedom of speech in ukraine. yes, no. it's pretty simple on youtube, two options if you have one. any personal opinion, please write in the comments under this video, if you watch us on tv, please call the numbers, if you think that there are problems with freedom of speech in ukraine, 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end program, we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce you to our next guest, oleg hrybachuk. oleg hrybachuk, head of the center for joint actions, former vice-prime minister for european integration, former head of the administration or secretariat of president yushchenko, on our broadcast. mr.

oleg, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening, glad to be your guest again. well, you see, i will not ask you if there are problems with freedom of speech in ukraine, if you appear on the espresso tv channel. well, at least freedom. the word exists within the framework of several tv channels that are not part of a single telethon, and what do you think, whether this problem exists in ukraine or not, because we want to join the european union, we want to join nato, but this question will probably be asked by our western partners, representatives of civil society, well, i have the feeling that we have islands of freedom of speech, and we need these bridgeheads, not only the kurdish ones there, but... the krynks, but we need to defend these islands of freedom of speech, it is obvious efforts of the authorities to solve this issue

various pressures, there is no such thing as happened with the murder of journalist gengadze, as was the case during yanukovych's time or kuchma's time, but there are still obvious attempts to regulate this issue, they are trying to do it a little more subtly, so that the team that came to power , she... show business, they themselves are media masters of various companies, and they use it in their professional activities, but i have the feeling that ukrainian society already has a certain immunity from these attempts, like from covid, and i i don't believe that the government will be able to achieve its goal fully controlled information space, well, you didn’t say one more detail here, that actually zelensky himself left... tv, because he did not exist as a politician until 2019, that is, he was made by the media, that is, he was made by tv, he he lived there, and zelensky has already gone to europe, he

was in croatia today, he spoke there at the summit of the leaders of central and eastern europe, and he will meet with olaf scholz in berlin instead of the meeting in the four-way format, where they were supposed to meet. the leader of great britain, france, germany and the united states of america, due to hurricane milton, biden is not going to ramstein-25, and because of this, this meeting will be postponed. at the same time, there was information that the second peace summit will not be held in november, its date will be determined later, today there was information that it could be in december, that is, about the postponement of the second one. daria zarivna, adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, informed the world that everything for its preparation

should already be in place. ready, so far they are passing thematic conferences on each point of the formula, which ends with the adoption of a communique, the main provisions of these communiques will become the basis for the future peace plan of the second summit. mr. olezh, tell me, the fact that two events are postponed, well, it is clear that a hurricane, well, but hurricanes happen quite often in the united states of america, is there not some kind of political hurricane here, which prevents us from meeting and staging. dots of hope in history with the support of ukraine or with providing it with weapons or with saying that ukraine will a member of the north atlantic alliance, at least in part, is there no conspiracy here, it just happened like that, and this is a delayed peace, conditionally speaking, with two summits, that it is only hurricane milton and nothing more. well

, i want to say that i saw information that zelensky is meeting not only with scholz in berlin, he is meeting with macron and he is even meeting with the pope on friday, that is, he is doing such intensive consultations in his style, and and secondly, i carefully watched the leading western channels, they're all starting all their news with this milton, i mean, i've seen a live broadcast of president biden and vice president kamala, the federal emergency management agency, and everyone's talking about how this is the most dangerous hurricane in recent memory. 100 years, that is, there will inevitably be human casualties, and biden in particular accused, accused trump of simply unscrupulous lying and trying to pr

on... on this natural disaster we are on this natural battle and we remember that there was already a situation with the previous one with helena, when biden and his team were very actively trying to convince americans that the government does not care about them, so we remember that biden clearly stated that the main challenge for him now is to win this election, and in fact it would be difficult imagine what he can do at such a moment when... the whole of america is there, the whole world, literally the germans and the french, here are all the leading information campaigns, their correspondents start the news with what is happening with the climate and with that milton, so i don't see any exaggeration here, but it's possible to understand that in fact the main problem remains for ukraine is that my...

feeling that we are inevitably moving towards, well, i don't know what to call it, well, it's not exactly peace, but well, the chinese call it the cooling of the war, there a truce is a truce, that is, we are approaching the point where negotiations can be held, and zelenskyi stated this even in croatia, that he does not rule it out, or he sees the possibility, he previously said that at the end of the year , or in the next year, that this truce can be reached. then the most interesting conditions begin, the most important thing for ukraine is, of course, security guarantees, guarantees that if a truce is reached, then russia will never again dare to try to invade our territory by force, then the question of recognition or non-recognition of the occupied territories as part of of the russian federation, what

putin demanded, but lavrov, on the other hand... very brazenly declared to new york that their position: four oblasts, ukraine should be recognized as part of russia, crimea is russia itself for them, not joining nato, disarmament, denazification, well, this whole set of conditions, which does not fit into the head, i.e. it is clear that there is no convergence of positions, but it is also clear, because i will also return soon from abroad, i have been to a number of international conferences, there is an understanding that... . the world is not ready to give ukraine everything it needs for victory, that is, we are talking about resources and about technology, although from the point of view of technology, only those americans have this weapon, but there is no such, well, political will, there is a fear that we ukrainians have we don't understand