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[laughter] >> did they make sense? >> to themselves will they be the freedom lovers? they want their own set of law. they're very hypocritical. john: some call themselves and our guest and want more regulation? >> yes. corporations. the old form of government smothering even though they where the pretty mask it is hypocrisy across the board. john: there were not that many. move on. she also cover the convention with ron paul's success talking about freedom and opportunity.
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>> unless you are gay. >> at the end of the day we have the right message. john: ron paul delegates tried to nominate their candidate they pledged to represent. the republican rules said you need delegate said matures from five states nevada, maine, alaska and i will but the party changed the rules on the spot to say they need it to from eight to states. >> and changed the rules and did goalpost in the middle of the game and we caught up with him. >> dr. paul congratulations to ignite your supporters passion. they're really fighting. what did you say? >> social encouragement, think you.
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do your best but no particular. >> they want to keep your message alive. >> some people may brian o.r. support other candidates. they study and read economics. they change careers. i am amazed what they do. john: they have been other passionate rally with thousands of people. you politicians get anywhere near the crowd even he is not certain. >> i can just claim my sincere interest of the spirit and principles of the pretty. i recognize my shortcomings but i am convinced if we
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give us celebrity from our history we don't have to go back to the dark ages. we are at the future so are the young people. >> gary johnson and like to take the torch. >> i have nothing to pass. he is doing a good job. john: he would not come out. gary johnson is the libertarian party ticket. ron paul has run as a libertarian. >> she stopped shy of an endorsement but a think a lot who have been disenfranchised at the
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convention today could good hard look at gary johnson. the tea party movement and others like rick's santorum who have been hit with the rule change. they're not happy. john: i am happy with santorum but i did not like ron paul being squashed. the delegates were their thinking it is part of the game and his son rand paul will carry the banner? >> they have worked so hard. they were upset to try to get him to speak on stage to get him in nomination. it did not work. they were turned away. will they turn to gary johnson or rand paul?
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it is up to the people. john: they played a tape and afterwards a lot of delegates walked out. did they notice? >> they did. there is discord within the party tried to make it seem in his united but it is not. the fissures have been exposed and if that romney loses the party will dissolve and will have to reinvent itself. john: i'm amazed you can walk and talk with the balloons. [laughter] we will talk about the republicans war on women. gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone, but her... likes 50% more cash. but, i have an idea. do you want a princess dress? yes how about some cupcakes? yes lollipop? yes! do you want an etch a sketch? yes! do you want 50% more cash? no you got talent.
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john. [applause] what the back to the post republican convention coverage. what does the free-market think? we have our all-star panel with us. natalee, it was dodge to 98 i heard about the war on women. >> he did say things about women. i am not sure he responded the best way possible. >> i chose eight win in the 10.gov and by a congress. >> p has the equal number of
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women than that somehow means he does not hate women but is having the argument on the terrain the left has designed based on outcome we see title ix. john: just as many women and attempt to equalize men and women's wages. at the end of the day the differences between earnings are largely a result of choices not discrimination. john: you work for the independent women's forum because for a while they were all big government groups. what is your response?
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because they want to restrict abortion? >> democrats are making huge mistakes. working off the assumption all women are the same and that they are a voting bloc. very diverse, urban, a single, married, old, and narrowing the term women's rights as they have done for years to the one issue of abortion. women are interested in so much more we don't sit around and think about abortion, abortion, abortion. john: and then government has to give the abortion pill. >> of that is the argument that i am waiting for them
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to give me a free car. thin sheet could go to her job, have been dependents, the argument does not stand. it is very insulting. did you see the julia campaign? that was insulting. john: per life of government >> that every stage i have to say thank you i am pour helpless woman and in need the government to step been. that is insulting to may. [applause] >> 15 of from the left that republicans are conservatives with the war on women and minorities and handicapped people and children and recently the war on the old people. they are simple fear tactics
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nothing to do with the real problems facing the country today. >> this was in their because of representative akin. the republican party does not do well and unless they are totally fooled there is the wide spread perception and republicans want to restrict abortion rights and contraception of. i don't think democrats have the better answer but to let people decide how they want to live. if you say to get rid of abortion that is the sanctity of life argument. john: our audience watched most of the convention.
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first from facebook, i hate it is like a scripted pep rally the minority is ignored and silenced. >> need to. aren't you supposed to have arguments? >> it is an infomercial. the debate comes with the debate. >> $80 million of taxpayer money. >> that is outrageous. we should not do fact especially with these times. >> i hear a lot of rhetoric of a reap the benefits of immigration their parents came and now they were given the opportunity. then why don't they talk about to opening the borders to immigration?
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>> that is a great point*. there react -- rhetoric sharp policies are terrible. obama is the worst immigration president be deported almost as much as george bush over eight years >> temporary and short lived is a symbolic gesture when he realized he was losing the hispanic vote to but mitt romney will lose the hispanic vote to to someone who kicks out of hispanic the democrats do not-- the republicans to not understand come live here now. >> it is more pandering for
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our will fix your problems if you elect me. somebody says i will restorer jobs it is your problem. >> everybody has already decided to they will vote for. there is 20% in the middle but who watches the conventions or read the platform? they made tune in for the debates but we are preaching to acquire part but it is a big circus. john: wouldn't it be a shock that the free people solve your problems? >> that is what i was looking for. we saw that in the lead up but not in his.
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scott walker say what they would do but we need more of that. >> i have heard achieving energy independence and free trade but isn't it contradictory? >> [laughter] we are the interconnected world we really don't want to be independent. john: why not? >> if we are interconnected we don't want to cut off the nasty canadians. lowers prices and increasing standard of liver -- standard of living. john: romney said energy independence sam at the right to word is abundance he should talk about tapping all of the resources. that is the real deal.
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[applause] >> next from facebook. >> the lesser of two peoples? and then says maybe we are elected next time. >> i get heat from my friends how can you not vote for one of those who are supposed to win? today i laid out to what they can do to win my vote cut military, cut spending stop telling me how to live my life in the bedroom. they have to come to us. they have alienated the people most people want to
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be left alone with the stable framework with small amounts of justice. john: more say i am not a republican byrd democrat. >> 3 million people have not affiliated since 2008 not necessarily mean -- libertarians but they see the petty differences and decide they need something new. that is the future. john: thank you for the panel. when we come back i will tell you what i wish mitt romney said.
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these infomercials. but let's expand on the belief. if there was an open debate we may have heard the levying it in america that immigrants can come and work legally. believing in america ugh means a financial stable course but not romney period mentioned that tonight. but we did hear honesty about our bankrupting future >> the debt is out of control. >> we are going broke. >> we need to stop spending money we don't have. >> but we need to slow the growth of medicare, social security, military. we cannot afford it all. i did not hear that.
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individuals can decide how to run their businesses but also their lives. who they mary, what family is to them, what they put in their bodies that means drugs, the marriage coming gambling anything that is peaceful should be the go. don't believe in individual freedom? they should use their money but also use their bodies? to believe in america is respond when they say government solves problems. government fails. individual succeed. america of low-cost her. but to spend more on things like compassionate conservatism. keeping apiece and levying
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free people loan. so the free market can work magic. that is the america i believe in. that is my show. two and next week for a live show after obama's speech at the democratic convention. misen ignoring calls to drop out out out of the raceof controversial within within -- legitimate rape comment about this biden new ups poll showing clear mccaskill leads 48/38% he had a one point* lead lead. if she can't break 50% after a race like this, democrats should ask clair mccaskill sat down. end quote. we are joining out to analyze todd akin's comments. doctor jeff gardere,
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psychotherapist doctor robi ludwig. all right. doctor ludwig, what could possibly have been going through a man's mind has a bachelors degree in engineering, who served in congress and has a masters degree as well. how could such a thing happen? >> i certainly think that his comments were misogynistic. definitely anti-women. and he wanted to show that he was a voice and he wanted to show his mission government what he was thinking and saying it's just not biological reality. women are raped and get pregnant all the time. the fact that he used the word
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legitimate rape, that is particularly insulting. >> i think this is the typical example of just because you have a high iq, doesn't mean that you are an intelligent person. that is why we look at emotional iq. because you have if you have a higher emotional iq, you don't kind of spew that kind of insanity. it is really what planet are you on. what he said was very delusional. >> it is not thinking. >> he is much more sophisticated than that. >> evidently not he is not sophisticated and thinking about the emotional or physical well-being of the mother who is being raped. lou: first of all, i don't think there is a soul watching this broadcast requires an education in either anatomy or biology, and i can't imagine this congressman -- i can't imagine what he was thinking.
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i can't imagine the motive based on a. >> i know. lou: i can't imagine what joe biden was talking about talking to black people, talking about that mitt romney, saying clearly, we'll put them back in chains. what goes through a man's mind? why is there a discreet judgment being made between two highly offensive statements? >> it goes right back to what doctor robi ludwig was saying. this idea of playing to your audience and wanting to be loved by your audience. and i think that was a situation where the vice president was in front of a black audience and reach out to them and use certain words. quite honestly, i found it offensive demand democrats saying that and republicans saying that, come especially for the audience you are speaking to. lou: wait a minute.
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[talking over each other] >> oh, come on. [talking over each other] lou: rationally, we are saying here -- why should we tolerate that kind of nonsense? why should there be a duble standard? why should there not be a voice of some sort saying that todd akin is a darn fool. and so is the vice president of the united states. >> they were thinking and saying and not on the air. [talking over each other] >> when you compare what they said and what biden may have said, being offensive to people like myself, maybe not as offensive to everyone. what todd akin said was offensive to all women. lou: you are saying there are more women and blacks? >> i'm looking at the idea of sexuality and someone -- [talking over each other]
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>> basically not demonizing but devaluing women. and their rights. [talking over each other] lou: here is another little problem. the fact is that that is precisely what the vice president of the united states, who has a higher standard of conduct, required of him -- then does come as far as i'm concerned, someone on the campaign trail. as vice president of the united states, to go round and vowing that kind of nonsense, it todd akin is to retire from the field of the kinetic, and whether the vice president not be called upon to resign to those who say they are offended? >> to try to compare what these people said -- it is not about comparison. they both said very stupid
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things. a lot of people were hurt by it. lou: you are saying that you make that comparison? [talking over each other] >> it doesn't matter. >> we are in the 20th century. lou: we are at an impasse of reason. let's turn to paul ryan. watching new imaging in the romney campaign. we are seeing a different kind of person than we thought in the first boxful. within the margin of there -- error, he has a lead over his president and vice president. what you make of it? [talking over each other] >> there is a new energy. >> a new energy. >> they are addressing real issues and the economy and medicare -- [talking over each other] >> the gloves are off. now, you will get someone who is
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in many ways a representative of tea party ideology to common and for them in some way. if but in many ways, it will energize them. they made a bold move. >> mitt romney seems very excited about his toys. just from a psychological perspective, you can tell that mitt romney is a really good father because the dynamic is very similar between the fathers dynamic. lou: a good, positive dynamic. not between biden and obama. >> i don't get that same feeling. [talking over each other] >> the little other is saying to the big brother, what the heck did you just say. lou: we know what you all think. if i may say, you to add to the number before the election day. >> homeland security goes after its own agents for enforcing immigration laws are. >> we have so many people telling us so many different things within our own office, regarding what we can and cannot
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do that we do not know what to do and our managers don't know what to do either. >> president obama's new open borders immigration regulations borders immigration regulations target its own agents, not questions. when you're caring for a loved one with alzheimer's, not a day goes by that you don't have them. questions about treatment
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president's executive orders concerning deportation. some bad news for te miln war have given up altogether.her. the policy institute reveals nearly 1.8 million illegal immigrants are eligible for .he work permit to thehe president decided to offer. more than twice of any estimates projected. it was revealed 350,000 high-school dropouts will be included as long as they say we unrolled and high-school.th just aser long as they say that.
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traffic violations from the illegal immigrant was ordered released by the supervisors, the agent has retained counsel. the man who broke the story, todd starnes, fox news radio, author of the book that is an exposé on president obama's war on traditional american values. it is great to have you. >> thank you he won this is a remarkable story in this day and age. a nice agent up against the wall. he is an i.c.e. agent. he is up ordered not to enforce the law. >> and is outrageous and i suspect we will hear more stories like this. the i.c.e. agents that are talking to me say that morale is in the toilet. they say that the obama administration is keeping them from enforcing the law in this incident that occurred in delaware is a classic example. they are going after a target of primary illegal immigrants, when
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they pull over this carpet that car. that is when they found this other illegal immigrant. who not only has 10 previous violations come he didn't even have a driver's license. so they arrested the guy, brought him to the branch office in philadelphia, and that is one the agents superiors officers said you have to release this guy and let him go. lou: why do they have to release them? >> according to the new immigration policy goes into effect next week, this individual was not a primary target. here is what is interesting. the individual, 35 years old and have multiple misdemeanor charges. according to information the obama administration made public, anyone over the age of 30 would not be allowed to get this deferment, this deferred action, and also individuals who have multiple misdemeanors. what the obama administration is telling us and what is happening behind the scenes is not adding up. lou: you are reporting further according to the document, that
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aliens who have convicted felons navy granted deferred action as well. that means, not reported. aliens use fraudulent or in social security numbers. >> that is right. lou: why? >> the issue that lawmakers are beginning to address, and i talked to senator jeff sessions who is serious. he said that the obama administration, just a few moments ago, the obama administration is going to lead to a capitulation of lawlessness in the country. i called the police hief in newark delaware. and i said what would happen if an american citizen had been pulled over in those same circumstances. he said they would be going to jail. so i think the obvious thing here is that if you get pulled over, the first words out of your mouth better be when they stop you, very good.
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lou: the idea that there is no response of the republican party, the no reaction from the citizens. where is the tea party? this is all happening in the president seems to have found the perfect time and tone to rule over america. >> people are occupied with other things. in my hands as the document. this is the implementation procedure. we are the only folks that have a copy of it. this is what senator sessions is very concerned about. because ultimately it in the day, he is afraid of this document right here will give safe harbor to criminal illegal aliens in this country. a very scary situ e-mails show e
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lou: it our next guests says the president executive order altering deportations is the sign of things to come. joining me now they're inclined -- karen klein, author of fool me twice talking about the obama's plants over the next two years. congratulations. he has become so fond to exercise these decrees with such regularity. your thoughts? >> it is amazing what he got away with his first term showing what he may do with his second.
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by the very progressive groups including the progressive s it includes another executive order that millions of illegals that are not documented. lou: especially if not citizens. assuming and doing so without response outcry is substantial stuff. >> it could change the very nature and that is what progressives understand.
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aside from document teeing illegals who are creating a new population that means any alien that support independent family is it would be illegal to deploy the legal. also with the legal immigrants and register them to vote to. lou: that is fascinating. that basically we will not recognize this country? >> massive more centralization.
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but then economic fairness. fair share. fair shot. but 2008 he said transform, transforming fundamental transformation. nobody asked him what that meant to. including paycheck fairness the federal government determines the appropriate salary. lou: implying you feel we have been fooled once with your title fool me twice but impossible the obama administration has such brilliant people the republicans and senate and congress they are being
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outwitted every turn? >> this is a progressive machine perfecting his policies for decades. ever before he was on the scene. they even talk about bringing back the administration of fdr. almost the beginning of the previous century. lou: will this vehicle crossed the line? >> right now most americans don't understand his second term plans. if they have more specifics he is waiting for the flexibility he promised the russian president.
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