by go, ooh, ooh. >> brenda: gary b. >> since the stock was there a serial disappointer. >> brenda: and neil, i give him a big like and cavuto on bu . >> neil: all right. ten days and counting until you decide who is in charge of fixing our massive debt. new numbers showing how broke we are. hi, everyone, glad to have you, neil cavuto and forget about the 16 trillion bucks, it sounds like a big number, but maybe it might help you focus on $47,000, according to government data, that each american household share of the debt we owe to foreign countries. in hock, to foreign countries. and 10 grand of that to china ane. so, when you look at those numbers, is it any surprise the world has our number, to ben stein, charles payne,

dagen mcdowell and adam lashinsky, dr. payne, great to have you back. >> good to be here. >> the u.s. government is flat broke, but the public isn't broke, that's the shame our average share of the debt that the government wildly throws away and spends like crazy and can't put on your, on any kind of control ofbut this is where we are, this is the inflection point, where we are, at the moment of truth where we keep running this up we're asking amecans you want the total to be more than that. essentially we've become a total welfare country, a total welfare state unless somehow the american public puts their foot down, government won't do it. >> what i don't like about it, it does put it in a darkly human maybe selfish conscious, this is our shar to folks abroad. >> just to folks abroad. but two-thirds of our debt is held by. >> we owe ourselves. you figure you owe it yourself -- well, i'm not going to say

it. this i have to pay. >> and what you have to pay back. good point, but in order to fix it people are going to have to give up something, whetr it's some tax break, whether it's spending on certain things that they love, when is the day going to arrive that people are willing to d that? maybe it is this year, i thought it was two years ago, that there would be something different and frankly, even with a lot of the the tea party candidates moving in, we dn't see that much movement when trying to fix our financial situation in d.c. >> ben stein? >> well, because we-- people aren't willi to raise taxes there's not enough to cut, there's a discretionary funding. and a huge majority of these expenditures are fixed by law or flew defense we absolutely need. i think a bigger question, why are these foreigners especially very clever, extremely well-versed foreigners willing to buy some of our debt and must see some value that maybe we're too modest and self-efacing to see ourselves.

obviously, this country has tremendous value to the rest of the world. >> neil: you're right. thmodesty is what i've always liked about myself. (laughter) >> you know, adam, you know why i think they're investing here, nothing to do with al truism. and we might stink, but the world stinks more, so, cash finds a haven here, i'm not-- you know, saying harmful things about the country, but i'm just saying, financially, compared to the rest of the world. we just don't suck as much. so, there's a big amount of capital that comes here as a result. what do you think. >> absolutely correct, neil. >> neil: it is? >> i mean we should take-- >> i made that up then and there. >> i think i made it up. >> like your humility very much. neil, abouyourself. if there's, i mean, of course, we should get our spending in line, charles, of course, we should cut down our debt and of course we need to be making

progress for people lending us money. you're right, the chinese, for ample, invests here because they can't do better anywhere else and furthermore we've got their money, we should be happy about that, they can't just take their money back, everyone says, well, the chinese are going to call their loans, no, they're not. they're not going to put that money someplace else. >> first of all, i digree. i think the world is on fire like it's never been in the history of mankind. we're so myopic about america and europe, not talking about unemployment in russia, indonesia, peru, chile, africa, sell 300 million cell phones there, the worreworld ha been on like this. >> and just-- >> hold on one second, adam. we're living off our reputation, bieve me the rest of the world is on fire and if we sit back and think we're the only game in town forever, it's a gigantic mistake. >> neil: and i knew it was a mistake not to lead with the

chile thing, i'm kicking myself for not doing it. dagen, what do you think? >> i think we're drunk on a sense of comfort. it's dangerous because, again, we aren't worried about foreign nations dumping our debt or not uying any more of it and we continue to borrow money from those very people to spend it and the day will come, i don't know what triggers it, but the day will come. >> it's sort of like wting for a financial-- and to adam and charles' point, kid about it, but we rt of pretend, well, we'll always have thisoney coming our way because where else will it go, well, increasingly there are other options maybe not as big a liquid a market of ours to at least diversify. and no less than ben stein, one of the greatest financial minds in the country, always urging diversification and why he has all of these great funds he recommends and everything else and i think the world is going to ineasingly look at diversifying and that will hurt us, will it not? >> as well it should, but that's been going on roughly since the 1950's, when after

world war ii, we were the only economy that mattered. of course we're not the only economy that matters, charles, all of these great success stories you mentioned are just that, but, it's like a big investor trying to put money into a fund, you can't put enough money into those countries. we still have a very good economy here, a gwing economy. and with some severe problems that we need to address and we will. and what we'll deal with this problem best,eil is the economic growth and we're getting it, just not getting enough of it. >> all right, ben stein, final point? >> i don't understand where charles is coming from, we have been talking about the rest of the world economies like crazy and there are enormous inflows of money froms u.s., japan, china, the rest of the world in the meantime we are the biggest game in town even if our money is worthless and the other people's money is even more worthless. >> neil: i don't know, there might be a point, charles, i want to you respond, and snuck that in on you, that there are other options, you're saying,

right? >> there are other options, for foreign direct investment is exploding around the world and if we rest on our laurels we are going to wake up one day and it's going to be too late. >> neil: all right, and back on that-- >> and that never happens and-- >> hold back-- >> a happened to spain, happened to great britain, it homed to rome, quite a few countries. >> it happened to rome? >> well, they rested on their laurels, come on. >> and rome fell because of excess debt. >> all right. >> i beg you not-- >> and guys, i beg you not the to go into roman history, okay? and m just asking and saying this as an italn. and all right, the campaigns are going full speed and so are we. we're going to be doing double duty next week ahead of the election and starting at 10 a.m. eastern time with a special cost of freedom, your ballot, your bucks. i've en practicing that, not to screwt up. and then we're back on sunday for a live your world at 4 p.m. eastern time, and this street is all about your money

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you can keep track of it on our website foxnews.com, i'm anna kooiman. now, back to cavuto on business. >> neil: forget about these guys going at it for your vote. they've got nothing at it on these guys going for your wallet. apple and microsoft plang a

game of point, click and rumble. and unveiling tablet devices and pushing each other to new heights in a game of nerds gone wild, i guess. the nerds are winning and people are lining up and buying each of the products. adam, a lesson for washington or too early it tell? >> well, it's a rough comparison to compare two profit making companies with gornment, but the fact is-- >>. >> neil: take it as a given that's what i do and play along, go ahead. >> and i will, neil. (laughter) >> especially in the case of microsoft, it's really admirable that this company that has been lose for about ten years now keeps coming back and trying again. not just trying again, but trying with a new fresh approach doing tablet computer. i don't know if they're going to succeed. it looks snazzy and they're putting money behind it and trying to have new, fresh ideas and yes, i think our government, both of our parties could learn from na example. >> and finally come around to

our way of thinking here. but, ben stein, do yothink that technology, let's say, a bunch of people going to a best buy and more inclined to buy products like this, is there a spillover affect in i think it's generally limit today that sphere and doesn't an people buy more sweaters or-- >> i think it's very much limited to that sphere, but i think to your basic point,he energy initiative, creativity of people in the private sector who stand to make a great dl of money and prestige by creating something new, useful, wonderful, good looking and the computer wars, that's an overwelcoming incentive which the ordinary bureaucrat doesn't have. it's a shame and it would be nice if the bureaucrats could be incentivized in some way, but to take the minds of the person o of that, and compare it with the person out of commerce.

>> apple-- >> i'm trying to think who was more offensive of my basic line of thinking. i think that ben was more in li until that zinger at the end and drew me in and says, okay, here. but go ahead. >> but apple, steve jobs defined the new apple by deciding what we needed and wanted before we even knew it. and that was going on for more than a decade. >> and before we knew it, that's a very good added line, before we even know it. >> very good line. >> a great line. >> what changed in washington over that time, did they take one lead from what steve jobs did? no. you look at the websites, just for all the government agencies and it's 1998, and not in a good way. and this is one basic example. and-- >> and like 1998, is ancient history. >> it kind of is, neil, yeah. >> in the technology world it is. >> on the inrnet. (laughter) >> talk to my daughter, oh, my god, dad, that's so second

bush term. >> and i've got to be honest, that new alanis moreset cd you were telling me about. i n't want to be the one-- >> all right, all right. >> here is the bottom line, these companies are accountable, they're held accountable and you know, the thing that the private sector and the government have in common, they can gussy things up. and they can have commercials and packages. >> neil: and food stamps. >> politicians can loo great. timately if the company does not have something the public wants, it will go out of busess, you can't say the same for politici and retreads come up all the time and peoe get entrenched for some reason their constituents never vote them out even if they're the poorest constituency in the country. even the most illiterate. no matter what, they get in there and shake a few hands and vote them back in. it's nuts. >> eight of ten do, from the house, it's interesting, what do you make of that. but we all, but what most of

us grew up watching the democrats were dominant in congress for decadesnd they've got thrown out and it's happed quite a few times in the last 20 years, and politians are accountable to the voters and they do get voted out all t time. and these companies, yeah, they're accountable either make money or they don't. >> okay. >> (laughter) >> all righty. we'll go back to the planning board next week. up next, does anyone remember this, remember this, i know the nature of the machines, they're not going to record any, but there is going to be an image and a saved image, this is what i wear underneath my outfit so you guys know. >> you're a rebel, neil. >> bottom line or bottoms online, my friends. the tsa really is into tna and i told you it would happen. >> i was right. >> i hate to say i told you so, but i told you so and because of me, those tsa

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