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>> it is saturday, december 15. this morning we learned much more about the tragedy that unfolded yesterday in newtown, connecticut. 20 children and six adults gunned down inside an elementary school. we have the latest timeline. at 9:30 a.m., classes begin at sandy hook, the safe top schools. some teachers and faculty were gathered in the main office for a meeting. five minutes later they hear gunshots and duck. >> the principal, pictured right here, and also a school psychologist, confronted the gunman and become the shooter's first victim. the principal likely saved many likes there by turn on the school loudspeaker so that everyone could hear and that everyone could take cover in that school. shortly after, the first 9-1-1 calls started. police arrived in minutes.
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at 10:23 they entered the school and confirm that shooter is dead and they start moving children from harm's way. frantic parents and loved ones started to rush to the scene and later that day after we realize the magnitude of the shooting, at 3:17, president obama talking about this as he wives away his own tears addressing the nation. >> an entire community is now mourning this nightmare of a tragedy together. in all, 26 candles were lit and placed at a memorial service altar. each candle for a victim. hundreds filling the the rows of the church and people huddling to remember the innocent children and the school faculty that were taken far too soon. >> peter doocy is like for us with the latest developments.
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good morning, peter. >>peter: good morning. very sad to report that the medical examiner on this has been working throughout the night inside sandy hook elementary school. the last update last night is that authorities hope to possibly identify all of the bodies inside by today. six adults and 20 children were killed when a 20-year-old mass murders, adam lanza showed up after 9:30 and perhaps hired 100 shots in two police toll -- pistols into two classrooms. students did their best to shield their students' i didn'ts and we heard how devastating the human toll was on the first 9-1-1 call. many students heard chromes through the intercom system before they were evacuated to a
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nearby firehouse. the firehouse is where most parents were instructed to show up yesterday to find out if their child had survived. last night, at a church vigil in the downtown area, not far from here, we talked to parents would said how hard it was not knowing but they expressed to us they felt truly pleased and everyone we spoke to said they know someone who was not able to pick up their child the at firehouse, it is very sad to report that everyone would was shot by adam lanza at the school near here yesterday, there is only a single survivor and all we know about that single survivor is that it is an adult female. we are expecting to hear more information from the connecticut state police if about three
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hours. >> thank you so much. the f.b.i. is trying to find answers to the tragedy and they are new questioning the suspect's family including his older brother and his father. the older brother was initially mistaken as the shooter. the killer and the older brother have been estranged if two years. and now, anna is on the phone on the way to new jersey and that is where the older where lived. police searched his home. what can you tell us today? >> good morning. we are here on the scene and it is quiet after 10:00 last night we wanted the copped roll up at the police station that have been wrapped around the build where the alleged shoot are's brother lives with two other people. the streets in the neighborhood were blocked off yesterday, and the f.b.i. and the police are on the scene and residents say a bought qualm went through the hall wees of the building. yesterday, ryan lanza rolled up and police under haved the
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building and he was handcuffed. the reason no this yesterday was confusion over the identity of the actual shooter because adam was carrying ryan's i.d. and rumors flying and someone, there were reports that someone was dead inside, maybe the father, but an f.b.i. source saying he is ahive. he was questioned year. he and the boy's mother are divorce asked peter is remarried and lives in stand form, connecticut. the f.b.i. is saying the brother and father have been cleared and they are for longer questioned. but not a suspect, his records are being search asked ryan said he was not in touch with his brother since about 2010 when he possibly has a personality disorder, and, also, ryan wanted this unfold on television he posted on facebook, it wasn't me, i was at work, so, he is not
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a were. lastly, the people here have been through a lot and they say they were rattled and continue to be. a day care was on lockdown and they were getting e-mails about their children being inside and were watching everything, it is not too far away. this is a tough situation for them. >> thank you, anna. >> an emotional president obama reacting to the news of the senseless murders in newtown, connecticut and more on the president's reaction we go like to our washington correspondent from washington, dc. james? >> good morning, from the nation's capitol where for president obama as for all americans, it was a if the madness of the phenomenon, the mass shooting, descended, in connecticut, to the most horrifying level. the would fills -- the profile
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stayed the same, young man, in adolescent, severed from community and simple pleasures and articled. he is described as of advanced intelligence but remote. most of the victims in this case were very different. children ranging in age from 5 to 10, the most defenseless. the toll as we have reported, 28 dead including the mother and the school principal and 20 children, one school worker was wounded. president obama who has layed the difficult role of consoler in chief in the past struggled this time to contain his emotions and he spoke of the landmarks of life, first days, graduations, and victims of their families were robbed of this along with innocence taken of those who survived. we endured too many of the tragedies and when i learn the news i react not as a president but as anyone else, as a parent.
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the president spoke of the node for "meaningful action," to readdress this, but offered no specifics. flags at white house and the capitol are flying at half staff, and at the sports world, moments of silence observed. a bitter hanukah and chriitmas for america this 2012. >> thank you, james, we will be right back with our continuing coverage of the school tragedy. >> child psychologist joins with a look at what could have been going law the minds of the children who were trapped snowed the school as the massacre unfolded. twins. i didn't see them coming.
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>> as a six or seven-year-old, what are your thoughts? i have to be the parent. i have to tell them. i said, i need you to know that i love you all very much. and that it is going to be okay. because i thought that would be the last thing they would hear. >> the teacher protected the students by locking them in a bathroom and telling them to be as quiet as possible. but they could hear gunshots on the other side of the door. did they realize what was happening? and older kids? we are joined by a child
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psychologist. you have the teachers trying to stay calm but it is obvious they are very emotional and the younger kids who may not comprehend the specifics of what is happening, they are feeling that emotion. >>guest: absolutely. kids have an enormous imagination for power when they don't have any. >> one teacher was telling the younger kids there is a bad guy outside and we have to stay quiet inside. and one of the kids said, i know create, it is okay. i will lead us out of here. >>guest: that is the imagination, the power to protect and they don't really have it and then they hate themselves and there is in time in the minds so they will bury that experience. >> so, as the teachers and the other stuff were trying to protect the kids they don't want to convey how horrific the situation is but, at the same
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time, it is very important they convey some sense of danger so that the kids take this seriously. how do you walk that line? >>guest: well, it is really -- children will know from the expression of their faces how serious it is and from their own fear they will know it is very serious. >> they can sense the fear. >>guest: the teachers are scared and they are big people. >> there are reports the principal turned on the intercom in order to warn everyone in the school this was unfolding and she is credited for saving likes by doing that but, at the same time, this meant that the students heard screams in addition to the gunshots. how will they process this? >>guest: well, they will hear them and they will be in their mind forever because there is in time in the mind so when they are 44 and they hear a scream they will go back to when they
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were very little and bring up the fear and the terror. that is what happens in the mind. there is in time in the mind. >> so you have kids in the school ranging from kindergarten to 4th grade and there is a difference if how a five-year-old processed from a 10-year old and a third grader thought she was going to throw up. she was afraid. it is much more real for them. how do the older kids process this? >>guest: they will process their feelings and use their logic, so to speak, but whatever is if their imagination if the power they never had when they were small, because they create that, that is going to come down, blame themselves for not being able to do anything. >> so, you are saying that they are going to feel guilt after. >>guest: yes, because we all imagine a self with infinite
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power. then it descends in our mind, and the brain, and the sped -- speed is more enormous than your conscious mind so something happens many years later and in two seconds, it triggers the fear and that memory and self hate if being powerless opposed to the infinite power you wished you had. >> so they have years ahead of them of hopefully getting help and moving on. >>guest: the most important thing is to teach people how their mine works. we know how our computer works but we don't know the hard drive of our mind collects everything we ever experienced and compares us to the reality of our power which is much less. that's where something gets
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stored need like this killer in killing his per and then killing the kids in his later and her kid which is himself. >> lot of work to be done after this tragedy. doctor, thank you very much. when we come back, there are reports that the shooter suffered from personality disorder. this is now the fourth mass shot this year and people are asking, is the country facing an epidemic? >> the shotting appears to have stopped. this is silence. the school is in lockdown. nfc, offensive lineman,
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>> we will do an extensive background on the shooter. well answer every question about the history or historical events the young man may have been involved in. >> we will learn a lot more today. there are reports that he suffered from some sort of personality disorder. fox news medical "a" team joins us this morning. we are hearing from his older brother he suffered from some sort of personality disorder. others are saying he was reclusive and quiet. >>guest: more and more information is coming about the shooter. there is a discussion that perhaps he had aspergers or autism. it is important to get this out. we are not saying that autism causes this kind of behavior. the fact that he was a loaner, he was not involved in social interaction, could not keep a real conscious, they talk to a
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lot of the friends he was always by himself so the behavior was not normal. >> not that of a typical 20-year-old. >> now we are learning more and more of the people coming to the movie theaters and schools and start killing people. there is a developmental problem with their brain and they don't treat people, they treat people like an object. for him to shoot his mom and shoot the kids, there is obviously, he doesn't process information the way we do. he may not look at the kids as a person. so, these are the difficult issues that have to be dealt with early on and maybe seek help before we see this in other tragedies. >> you feel there may have been signs others may have noticed. >> if you go back and ask a lot of people around him, there are always signs and symptoms of this kid having abnormal behavior, not with it, totally
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different. it is always there. we may or may not pay attention because we may feel sorry, but there are others ways. >> but at 20 he is an adult and the laws are pro individual so it is difficult for a family to try to support any kind of treatment or force treatment. >> you are right. catching this before they get to that age is critical. as a country, we are going through a very tough time and i hope we don't see more and more of the issues. but as the pressure, whether it is economic or family issues, in cases like, they could become more arrest parent so spending time with the family and catching an early diagnosis is the way to go. arecently we heard of the white middle class young men doing this. what does that tell us? >> i don't think there is anything, whether they are white or not, i think over all, looking at teenagers like this, they are going through a tough time. i don't want to judge this at
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this point. early on in the investigation, we need to spend more time to find out what is going on. so, as the story develops we will find out more and get to the bottom of this. >> thank you, doctor, thank you for coming in this morning. it is hard to imagine how families handle a loss and we will talk to a mother whose daughter die asked her son survived the columbine massacre. a
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teachers and fab ultimate were gathered and the rips -- principal and the psychologist rushed to the hour. the shooter opened fire and they were the first victims. the nightmare played out over the we loudspeaker where the school heard the chaos. after that the calls for help started. >> we have multiple weapons including a rifle. >> we neat help. >> the newtown police arrived at 9:50 and at 10:23 they entered, going room to room. he was found dead inside a choose room. that is when the officers began to move students and staff out. frantic parents and other loved ones rushed to the scene hoping to fine their children safe and
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sound. >> this is no word, no word. it is terror. and a sense of immediate urgency and you have for get to your child and to be there to protect them. >> later in the day at 3:17, president obama, wiping away tears, addresses the nation, leaving family and friends and residents at a loss. hundreded towns up to remember the likes taken in an instant. (inaudible lyrics). >> that service at the roman catholic church filled to capacity and hundreds sitting in the pews lining the walls and near the windows outside to on
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the school faculty and the children who were killed yesterday. 26 candles burning bright on the altar one for each of the victims. >> it was wonderful to hear the parents talk of the children and father telling me about his son getting his first goal. they love these children and what is not to love? they are so innocent and so good and so loving. there were a lot of stars up there tonight because of the kids. >> peter doocy is in newtown with the latest. it is difficult to hear the words of the priest. >> it is difficult. good morning. it is difficult to know that the medical examiner's office has been working throughout the night, trying to have all the victims of the tragedy positively identified by today. we told that parents were brought here last night after police had finished their
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investigation to positively identify their children. we still don't know the identities of the young victims. we know they were all age 5 to 10. one name we know, a person who lost their life yesterday, the principal, died from what we heard trying to stop adam lanza the 20-year-old mass murderer who shot his per before showing up at this school and killing six adults and tonight children with at least two pistols, a glock and a sauer. >> the individual i have on the phone is continuing to hear what she believes is gunfire. i've god -- got bodies here. >> students her screams through the intercom before they were
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evacuated to the firehouse where the parents were instructed to show up to find out if their child survived. last night at a church vigil down the road, a lot of the parents described how hard it was not knowing. >> for of what an hour or 45 minutes i had no idea if my kids were okay. >> i looked for her all over and i called my wife, what grade, my mind was plank, i could not think. and when i turned around and she was standing next to me and it was a big relief, i was shaken up, shaken up. >> we have been told out of everyone who was shot there was a single survivor, and we don't know who it was but it was an adult female and we expect to get pore information from the connecticut state police here in 2 1/2 hours.
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>> thank you very much, peter. they will hold a press conference as you mentioned in 2 1/2 hours from now. >> the majority of those who died today were children. beautiful little kids between the ages of five and 10 years old. they had their entire lives ahead of them: birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own. >> the emotion shown by president obama says it all. the commander in chief reacting at the white house yesterday to the horrific news a gunman killed 20 children and seven adults including his own mother killed earlier at home. for more on the president's reaction we go like to washington, dc, with james.
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>> president obama has played the difficult role of consoler in chief before, most notably after tucson massacre that wounded congresswoman gabrielle giffords. each team he reacts not as a president but as a parent. flags were lowered to half staff at the white house and the capitol. politicians from all parts of the country and both partied con condemned the shooting but some pressed the argument for more restrictive gun laws. president obama to hold back the tears in the press briefing room yesterday, a room named after the white house press secretary who was shot and permanently disabled in the assassination attempt on president obama three decades ago. >> as a country we have been through this too many times, whether it is elementary school in newtown or a temple in
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wisconsin or a neighborhood in chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighbors and the children are our children. we have to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies. >> what that meaningful action might be, the president did not say. he did add, though, while nothing can fill the space of a lost child or loved one, all of us can extend a hand to those in need. >> james, that you. it certainly is hard if any parent out this to imagine what the fathers and the mothers of the victims in connecticut are going through right now, but our next guest understands the pain too well. beth's daughter died in the columbine shooting. her son, craig, witnessed the tragedy and managed to survive. good morning. both. i know the 13 was 13 years ago
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but this must bring up emotions for your family. >>guest: it did. yesterday we like reliving april 20, 1999, all over again. so much pain but my first reaction was, i was angry, very angry this would happen again especially to little children, little babies and angry that someone would take out their frustration and honor and pain on someone so innocent. >> you would thing we would have learned the signs by now to look out for troubled young men and women and sadly it appears that is not the case. i heard the family of another columbine victim say this just yesterday, that the difficult phase actually begins for the families right now. could you talk to us about that. >>guest: sure.
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it is so unreal what they are expensing now, so unreal it is like being hit by a trait train but you are living with the pain and the loss and the grief. you are numb inside so it comes and goes. you have disbelief, denial. that is so in your face at this point in time there is no way to escape it. there is no play to hide. i remember feeling like i wanted to die. i could not breathe. i felt like i couldn't breathe. >> and your son, he managed to survive that day. how did you help him in essence he was in bad shape for two years. i quit my full time job and worked at home and took care of him, he became my priority. i was afraid i was going to have two columbine victims, i didn't want an emotional cripple and he
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was not physically damaged but he witnessed with two friends dying and seeing everything and the carnage of the library where ten children perished that day, it was too much for him so it took him almost two years to become himself again. >> affecting your son and the family and so many thousands for their life. i am happy to tell folks you did find happiness again, and it took a long-term but you were able to find that happiness. thank you so much. i am sorry for the loss of your daughter in that shooting. >>guest: thank you heather. >>heather: many parents are asking, could this happen at my child's school? what can schools do to protect children? we will talk now with a former detective and new jersey police commissioner. thank you for joining us. private security firms say they are already fielding calls from schools in the wake of the
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tragedy. what type of security is appropriate? >>guest: let me safer this. the police and teachers away the nation train for incidents like this. i have to admit, never, i believe, have anyone in law enforcement believed we would be facing something like this. but the schools across the district are doing the best they could. they put cameras and metal detectors you. they do everything they can to prevent the incidents but as reports come out it looks like you are unable to prevent something like this. the guy had the guns. he thought his way through the door. you can do everything possible to prevent something like this from happening but sometimes you can't do very much as in this case. >> this school had a buzzer. they speculated he was buzzed in because he is known to the school. but something like a buzzer is
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ineffective, most people are let in. so that is not enough. but, people don't want to turn a school into an armed prison by having metal detectors and security guards. >>guest: that is right. i have been to school districts and i am an elected official and in our high school, when i walk in i am greeted by an individual and they take me to the office, i signed in so everyone would walks in the building is checked out. you are right, do you want your school to be armed camps? absolutely not. what we have to focus on in this case and other cases, the police and the teachers did everything they could to prevent more tragedy, so moving forward we have to believe that we did the best we could in this case and hopefully as time goes on, we can reassess each incident and strengthen our security in certain areas but you can only do so much and as you said throughout this forecast, our
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crime scene. fox news forensic pathologist is here. the gunman dead. we know what happened. what are they hooking for? >> well, you are right. we know the cause of death. we foe that the shooter is dead. but there could be a lot civil trials as to protection of the children, as to why wasn't this 20-year-old kid picked up earlier. if he was getting medication could the medication trying we more -- and there could be someone else who could be charged if someone who worked with adam and that is what police are looking into.
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hoist, what is happening now, is that there is an assessment of all of the forensic evidence, taking pictures of everyone, identifying all the chip, because no one is there from the family but normally the bodies go to farmington, but they are working at the scene and they will work at the medical examiner's office and document every injury and perhaps do autopsies on the little children because all of the bullets have to be removed. all the bullets will be checked with the two weapons you mention and make sure there is not a third weapon that was discharged. >> there was a third weapon in the car from what we hearing. but, again, so many questions. >> there were rumors of two shooters probably doesn't exist, but they have to make sure that someone else wasn't discharging
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a weapon. >> people are shocked at the death toll. even in a mass shooting like this you often have more injuries, naughton dies. what happened? >>guest: that is very interesting. because this shooter must have gone to each child and made sure that he was shot if a vital organ. you are right, usually there are some people who survive, injured but survived soho must have gone away to each child. all in a couple of minutes. that is part of the problem. the weapons can be discharged quickly and he had to reload. those guns only would normally hold only 12, up to 15 bullets and there were 100 bullets fired. we don't foe that yet. he may have reload one or two
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times. >> horrific story. >>guest: helplessness and i agree with the previous guest who said no matter how good we are, if someone bursts in and shoots a lot of people and kills themselves by the time help arrives it is all over. >> thank you, doctor baden. a school psychologist will join us to talk about the long term effect on the children who survived the massacre. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz winter event is back, with the perfect vehicle that's just right for you, no matter whichist you're on. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 c250 for $349 a month at your local
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being taken out of a room by police officers with drawn guns. that was the moment for them. the parent reactions, i don't know, some kids obviously saw more and they were more impacted. >> certainly many of us will never forget the details of the tragedy, the young students would were there and managed to survive, a lot of us are asking, what will they remember? how will the children process it? we we are joined by a school psychologist in new jersey, what are the survivors facing? >> one thing we see is post-traumatic stress disorder. no question. >> even in a five-year-old? >> without question, this is traumatic like incident they will carry with them for a long-term no different from a war veteran from vietnam who is hiding when he hears a helicopter going by 20 years later. there are triggers, certain things trigger an automatic physiological defense mechanism
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in the body and the problem is, the kids are going to need, the kids that were exposed, will need long term psychotherapy. >> every child? >>guest: yes. what will have to happen the schools and i am sure they are working on it, have to have a plan. i work at a high school in new jersey and private practice and we have what is called a team with different community organizations that provide counseling services and other schools, they will step in and bring free services, and probably have on-site counseling at the school when kids return. >> this is something that is needed more than a few sessions. it could take years and years. >>guest: it depends on the nature of the kid, the personality, teachers need assistance. >> how do you know if your child is okay? >> we know our kid, you know your children's personality and traits and if you see something is off. >> we are talking about very young children who respond.
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>>guest: if your rid, the kids will want to ship with their parents and i am sure their par weres will want that. that brakes the rules but in this case it is necessary to have a real security tight family bond for the people in connecticut. >> how do you feel about the children being interviewed on television, the parents letting them. >>guest: the parents are so shell shocked they may not know what i am doing. i don't know if i agree, maybe -- i feel i need to be here because it hits home as a father of two young kids maybe they feed this needs to broadcast their emergency to the world. >> it is hard for me as a parent to see. >>guest: same for me. >> what do you say to those who are watching who have children in the home? >>guest: well, i want to say, take the weekend, embrace your kids, don't take them for granted and don't watch this
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broadcast on your tv. we do not want to instill unnecessary fear and anxiety among kids. >> the young children pick this up in essence no question. >> what do you say? there is evil in the world? >> me, i am not going to bring it up. some disagree with that, others want to be more proact i, if i see things happening with my kids i will talk. my approach is insulate them from this. i don't want them now being afraid to go to school. >> thank you, doctor, for, coming in, we appreciate you coming in. twins. i didn't see them coming.
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