order that came in after the healthcare bill was passed. >> yeah. david: there is a lot of authority we don't know about. >> this is just the tip of the iceberg, this is something thatter american understands, --o. they will have an idea. if they didn't understand before they understand this, this risk defining the whole thing. because everyone getting it. >> lindsey how many more executive orders do you think will be thrown in? >> that is a concern, we don't know, we're still finding out what is in the bill, and how this affects the consumer. david: your friend rick was laughing, and cajoling, any executive, a republican executive. bush administration, nixon administration get more executive power, you get worried, you are not worried about this administration? >> no, i was not --

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problem kids but sadly we are stupid and america. school spending has tripled the no improvement but there

is some good news. some very cool things are starting to happen. but school as boring. >> free public schools but the charter let's the school escape the bureaucracy of regular schools including the teachers union. this included the bureaucrats label at risk of

failure but they'll learn. >> going to our schools is a ticket to educational success. all gatt outstanding test stores -- state score. >> we do with less per child >> for less money how do they get the kids interested? >> interested in math? reading, writing. [laughter] the school day is longer kids stay in tel weathercock p.m. they told us they don't mind. >> you will burn out. >> we have our eye on the prize. >> views new teaching

techniques stand wear your pieces in their coached by their bosses. >> they tell me things i don't see or for don't think of a great question. >> review teachers as athletes that need constant support to be at the top of their game. >> these kids waved their hands but they explain active listening instead of asking can i go to the bathroom they make hand gestures. >> high test scores that parents lined up hoping their kid is admitted. >> this line goes on and on and around the block.

>> so many applicants but not many spaces. >> so what do you do? they hold a lottery. >> the winners are happy but there are more losers. in the oakland california and other gets results using other methods. >> give me the worst in no clint black or polka dots and you will outperform the other schools in five years. he created the model right in the middle of a rough neighborhood. these are hard workers. >> now they have some of the highest test scores in california. >> on the same amount as every school?

>> we get less. >> these kids are scoring so far above the average for the state public school children there is not even a word for it. >> here at american indian they pay kids to tutor other kids. >> we hire our students and pay them. they will make money. >> would you going to study? day mexico and in science? you will be a rare bird. >> he has strict rules. >> they want us to succeed. >> one teacher made a student do pushups. >> you have to try. >> i hate saturday school. >> my other school we have six subjects of homework a

and the teachers were a lot nicer. >> but no student has been expelled since the school began? >> no way. i love the fools. take the kid who acts like a fool and use them as an example. >> your critics say it is a school that if the student accept u.s. to some of the floor in the eighth grade class. >> it keeps people in mind and admit it or not. >> we played games been here it is either running for 10 minutes. >> you fire people. >> they should be. >> one teacher after one day? you can tell? >> she was incompetent. >> last year i thought i would be fired a few times.

it could happen at the drop of a dime. >> that doesn't happen the union school's. union teachers are happy they cannot be said of the fired but these teachers can be. >> does that bother you? >> if i am not doing my job and fired for that? >> if i was a doctor and i was not good, no one would come to me. >> i hope not. >> you cannot maintain quality. >> as many as we must and as little as we can. >> more than 10? >> in three schools, yes civic they can choose their textbooks and teaching methods as long as every quarter and every year the t. -- the kids are learning.

>> 100 percent of her kids pass. if such charters work why aren't there more of them? because unitarians -- unions hate charter this happened outside of her charter. >> i hope it is not personal >> this union boss does not want charters. >> over my dead body. >> i will confront the union in the strange things like we should not judge teachers by how well the student does. >> how did you know, they are learning? >> i know when i looked in their eyes. >> what?

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john: those great new charter schools? i wish there were more, more competition because competition makes everybody better. the people don't like me saying that. the teachers' union, 5 million members strong, this group is mad at me. >> i had done another show called stupid in america saying it was impossible to fire bad teachers and the union boss said because of my program. >> educators all over the country feel they have been kicked in the teeth. john: they were surprised when i came outside with the

union said i should be educated. >> teach for one week. >> the crowd like the idea. john: i surprised them again when i said o.k. but then they changed there mind. the union president will not talk to me anymore but the head of the new york teachers' union and also in washington d.c. >> we have progress as a result. john: three days before he led this protest march with complaining about paying teachers how well students to one test also the anti-test song. ♪ john: i know why the union doesn't like testing, your

results are among the lowest in the nation. >> you make that argument based upon the test scores. i would say ours could get better but. john: the predecessors have said that for years. >> the unions have a strong history of advocating for high quality public education. john: not achieving at. >> high test scores is now we focus on, but teaching kids. john: had you know, they are learning if you don't test them and compare. >> i know the kids are learning when i looked in their eyes. john: they have celebrities support. matt damon was asked about the rule that makes the hard to fire a teacher. >> why isn't their job

security for teachers? >> you think that makes me work hard? >> you take the nba style thinking. >> business will idea. >> charter schools, even the race to the top is based on the idea competition is good if they could take their money competition will force all schools to get better or go out of business, the best schools will expand a bit like fact. >> there is a profit motive behind the extra testing. >> get the corporations out. >> but to further impoverished up for teachers. ♪ ♪ john: our teachers paid enough? >> note. john: some make over 100,000. >> it is not enough.

>> matt damon agrees. >> a teacher wants to teach, why else would you take that salary and long hours. john: make a bad salary? >> today they make more per hour than accountants, nurses, archite cts. >> it is that about the money. >> a former d.c. politician. >> chairman of education for d.c. i gave the school system 300 million new dollars teachers got more money to educate your kids and test scores went down. they had to grow the bureaucracy. >> and then they found that did not even get school supplies. >> to walk-in to see there were no books in the library

, kids didn't have supplies than the following week i visited the warehouse of the school district there were boxes and boxes of books and scissors and glue. john: why? >> exactly. a complete and utter sense of dysfunction and lack of accountability. >> they call it the blob like jabba the hut can not be budged, the teachers' union, janitor's union, politicians, a school board bureaucrats if you make a change the blob says we don't have that. we have requisitioned to sign off it is crazy. john: both union leaders escaped the bureaucracy. john: you went to private

schools. >> it made me feel i better do good or else. john: i will confront the union bosses when i return. mike and other people have the choice they had? what is the cost one-third of a million dollars to fire one union teacher? what is wrong with these people?

john: look to send there kids to private school? and nancy pelosi, hillary clinton, al gore. >> the people who make rules already have a choice i used to be a politician. >> get they oppose school

choice for regular people. >> they give for taking my question. do you think molly and sasha would get the same high quality rigorous education in the d.c. public school? >> if a wanted to find a great public-school we could maneuver to do it. john: he did not want to. he announced since the girls to the same school the vice president grand children attended, a tuition is $32,000 per year in the union leaders? >> you went to private school. >> the head of the new york teachers' union, and he used up his speech the time he demanded more say my union contract demands seven more minutes to make their rigidity of the stupid union

contract is why the kids suffer. your union is the problem. >> he opposes kids to escape the rules by allowing them to attend charter schools. >> over my dead body they will come here, i will be there and physically try to stop them, we'll and water don't mix, there is not half empty schools. john: he says they favor the rich kids but new york schools spend almost 400,000 per classroom -- 4,000. >> it is hardly the rich versus the pork. >> let them in. >> we don't want them in our schools. >> is fox and a cnn in the same building?

vinik but we cannot banish the competition. competition is good which is why we have fox, cnn, and as nbc, when you have a choice competition makes things better. he a understand that by his own education. >> my mother paid for me to go and it made me feel i had better do a good or else. john: it sounds icky your arguing against unionized public schools. john: most are catholic schools doing a great job for less than half the money. >> 17,000 vs 5,000. >> catholic schools buyer bad teachers but government schools can't because teachers get tenure. >> why do that? >> in organized crime you

would get tenure. john: it is like organized crime you are in for ever unless you die. >> there is that prospective , you are a good teacher, there should not be a problem. >> not every teacher is good, some are lousy. >> there are 1 million steps. >> there is only one. john: it is all these. this is the list of steps required why most principals don't even try. they look at the list of appeals and give up or they push the worst teachers to transfer there is even a name for it the dance of the lemon it would be funny except kids are stuck with

terrible teachers. >> this police investigator says it takes years to fire the abuse of teachers. >> teachers and kids said he hit the other kids a technique for years, to $93,000, $127,000 of legal fees plus to have a substitute while he sat at home still being paid by the district. john: he could not by the teacher who fate his doctorate and went to sleep in the class. >> you was quite disturbed when the supervisor will kim up. it never ends. john: meet someone who was successfully fired hundreds of teachers.

>> your own daughters principal? >> that was a chilly night at home.

john: as we have seen education in america is a mess. what will fix it? >> somebody needs to fix it. you can do it. press thinks this woman can do it. >> michelle rhee. >> by years ago she was picked to manage the d.c. schools in mike you had never run a school district. >> i had never run a school. >> that is why this 37 year-old girl from toledo. people said he lost his mind

>> i had two daughters and i put them in the d.c. public schools. >> they were a disaster. >> among the worst in america. >> the chancellor learned only 8% to right grade level , there is something odd about the teachers. >> looking at the performance evaluations how bitter the teachers, 95 percent of the adults were rated as doing a great job so how the workers think we're doing a great job but we are producing a percent success. >> she's got into classrooms. >> i walked into this one school go to the first-class stamp, a five kids, nine kids, three kids, finally

the fit there six classroom i said where are all the kids? she said it's friday. i just cannot believe the answer. is that all? i thought she'd would tell me there on a field trip she said it's raining. john: but not every classroom. attendants varies by teacher. >> i walked into one class in and there are 30 classrooms and not enough desks so they were sitting on the radiators i said what you think about the teacher? he said this is my best teacher and as i was leaving the school that young man and two of his friends were walking out so i said excuse

me, where do you think you're going? he said our first period teacher is great so we come to school the second period is not so good so we will roll. this is not the pitcher the american public has of truant. there we're making a conscious decision to wake up early to come to school for first period because they would get something out of bet and leave. john: this great teacher is paid no more than the others. >> right to. seniority based layoff would have been made offers to. john: so she would pay the good teachers more and fire the bad teachers. >> that did not go over well. >> then i was visited by my general counsel who said you've got to stop firing

people. why? if they're not doing the job they are supposed to be doing we need to move them out. he said to welcome to d.c. public schools we don't fire anyone. >> eventually we did. >> they found the 92 polls -- a 90 day loophole. >> no shortage of outrage. >> ever before she took the job to get rid of people. john: you close 15 percent of the schools, fired your own daughters principle. >> that was a chilly night at home. >> she upset families, communities and teachers, lot of people got fired, it is a change. >> many thought she needed to be fired.

john: people really hated you. >> a wicked witch of the west, a dragon lady, and a teacher terminator. john: even "time" magazine put you on the cover with a broom. >> i took that to mean sweeping house. >> they said they'd need a second chance. >> they have some teachers to are lousy. >> we need to help them do better. john: not just fire them? maybe it is not for you. >> the quality of life is deeply affected. john: so nobody should ever be fired? >> we should help people improve skills. >> people would say if a teacher is not affected talk

about spending time and effort to professionally developed but whose children will be put in that classroom. john: who do you practice on? >> it did not work out, sari. you only get one chance the first grade. >> so people to the layoffs by quality instead of seniority. this really upset the applecart. john: why? it is common sense. >> it is to you and me but it was absolutely counter to what the district had always done the way the unions operate. john: it cheats the young teacher. >> it cheats that kids. >> test scores went up when she was chancellor but in the and the union won.

>> get her out. >> we will. >> the mayor who appointed her was voted out and when he lost, she quit before she was fired. >> she was a casualty. >> but elsewhere new schools are succeeding and exciting things are happening

john: people who tried to start charter schools say the bureaucrats make it so hard to put up obstacles obstacles, that is why there are not enough charters to have the market except in one town most kids attend and charter. how did that have been? >> hurricane katrina made a direct hit. >> because of the hurricane. >> new orleans, this entire area will be under water. ♪ mother nature is ii charge and has dealt one terrific blow. >> when a flooded northlands it didn't destroy just the skiddy one negative city but the school system's some

thought that is what needed to happen. >> one of the worst school districts in the country. >> before katrina schools were failing. >> day you rebuild or something entirely new? >> louisiana built something new and maybe ec summit you tell the state here is my plan, there was a school called t. levin he would drive his car around putting up signs advertising his school. he had to advertise because students had to choose to go there. they didn't just get sent there. >> we put these up everywhere. >> he even went to people's houses. >> we never had that.

>> her son goes to sci academy he talked to me and he was explaining about the hours and academics. john: only one-third of students were proficient on the state test. >> half of them did not know how to read. john: now sci academy are among the best in the city although it is just a bunch of trailers. >> at the school complaints about facilities they're not focused on the kids. john: how do they do it? >> the teacher passed to perform the principle can fire. >> and sharon also fires the weakest teachers. >> it also allows parents to fire a school, if they don't like this one they can go to

another. share and needs to work hard because she worries about losing her charter. >> good morning class of 2013. >> competition drives schools to try different things like this morning ritual at sci academy. it seems a little cold like and some don't take it seriously but it works. >> since he has been here he has become more responsible, thinking to make even though i didn't like the school at first, as i went to school i wanted to go to college more. john: now his mother is getting ready to go to college so now he tutors his mom.

>> this is how we should have been before katrina. >> now it went from one employee to another school that is so popular it holds a lottery. >> we will have a waiting list of 200 students. >> just like harlem, nervous kids sit in anxiously hoping their name will be called. some will be happy, most are not. >> it just shows this is what we need in the city and this education is that we have to offer. >> most kids today attend a charter school and they are better. >> many cities have been reborn the san francisco earthquake, the chicago fire, at the fire of london

resulted in a much greater capital emerging, people in you were lanes are rebuilding the city for the better with the school choice movement is here tuesday and will never go back. john: and more good news from the internet low-cal excited these kids are about math

john: to your kids have a good teacher? have you know, ? will be the teacher next door is better maybe in another state or the world's best teacher or several.

wouldn't that be great? today, yes you can. >> these kids are this excited about the math website. >> it taught me a lot of things. >> five years ago hedge fund analyst created videos to tutor his cousin. >> and her brother and mark cousins that i had a lecture then they said put them on your tube. >> welcome to the presentation soon thousands watched and comments on you to it is not like i think this kind of help but i failed calculus the first time i watch the videos

nowadays the class. >> he got letters from the middle east. >> when he has done is amazing now he is funded by bill gates and offers web lectures from history to economics and computer science the videos are viewed millions of times. >> natalie reaching millions of students right now but if i got hit by a bus it could still teach millions. john: you are just good at teaching? >> i will take that complement. >> he is a great teacher. >> it helps us learn a lot more. >> it is exciting he got kids so excited. >> it has gotten better with cars and computer but education not so much. >> rewind 100 years if you

had a party. john: each village has a story teller. >> but then mass media what we take the best musician actor or storyteller and record it and put it out on radio or record. that could have happened before. john: the 90 been basic math multiplication tables i thought they would use video games. why not? >> it is a huge bureaucracy it is t. three. and from our point* of view it is outside the the blob. john: this school district started to use his videos in the classroom and the teachers were skeptical. >> now they're happy to walk

and the door, it is all my gosh. that is great. >> we assume most people don't want to learn or getting gauged -- engaged but they're just frustrated they are in classrooms that are not catered to them. john: at first teachers were worried they could be replaced. >> my teachers would tell you they have talked more mass than ever before. john: now they can tudor one on one. >> i notice you're having issues with fractions. john: kids can collect their own pace. >> summer working on ec multiplication. >> some enjoy the lessons so much they steady at home. >> i am asking 50 minutes they will do two or three

hours. >> sometimes i will log on. >> finally now with kids being board is over? >> m.i.t. -- its might be. >> or maybe two other charter schools that break out of the union dominated government monopoly. let 1,000 flowers bloom, a better medicine, transportation, te chnology, don't our kids deserve that to? john: that's our show. i am john stossel. point* you for watching.