immigration reform, you know the gauge of 8 -- isn't it great to be in america, everything is so hope, and so transparent. good night from new york. neil: banks opened in cyprus, and everyone is breathing a sigh of relief, no panic, no run, no riot, no problem. now imagine if you are the government of cyprus. you just managed to somed toed e bank deposits from folks and got away with it not bad, the world is giving you a hand for pulling it off, everyone is breathing a sigh of relief that life is learning to normal in cyprus, i'm worried they are so happy, mark my words, life will never be the same in cyprus or

anywhere else, bank on it. welcome, i am neil cavuto, at least 300 euros beats no euros that is how much separate -- cypriots could withdraw from their banks today. now i'm sure they are marveling how a tiny island nation got away with pulling off a tsunami of a steal, taking tax the rich to a whole new do bodacious lev, a sovereign government, ran in scooped up 40 to 80% of the money from the rich folks, sure they are whining, the rich have

been whining for a while, who listens? who cares? easy targets. the rich know they got a bullseye on them, who knew a tiny island nation just put a bigger one on them. that is why i'm worried about how well everyone seem to be taking this. we've just emboldened all governments in the world to did the same. john and, chris, that is what worried me, we give them an invitation card. >> we sure did. not only does it set a bad precedent but it gives united states of america andueurope really bad ideas about not being fiscally responsibility. cyprus is an exercise in abjec failure, and then the cyprus

government said, you know we over promised we over sprint, so we're going to take your money and run. it reminds me the song ♪ ooh, take the money and run ♪ neil: that is pretty good. >> it is out of control, we should beefrightened as americans, we need to go, us people who work for our money, we need to go to an island and create a good nation, it no laughing matter, it says your hard earned money can be snatched away by a snap of the finger by the government. neil: this is spooky, john could we're watching the guards outside. when go i to an atm machine, do rarely do i see guards or soldier, unless i'm with sean hannity. but you know it is unsettling, and the calmness that is greeting this, everyone was just numb. this is like weird, that is all.

>> i think the whole point is nobody is going to stick up for the rich, and certainly not the russian rich with 68 billion euros in their banks system. and about 20 billion is russian companies who are there not necessarily for money laundering but because they have a double taxation with russia. e.u. did not do this with portugal, ireland and greece, they do not have the political will. they said go after the rich. and finance ministers have said this i is a template going forward. neil: they took some back a little bit. we have to look at what i template in slovenia and other countries, they might say that rich will oman, but you go after

them, raid their bank accounts but look at cyprus, there is little bad fallout from it afterwards, go for it, what do you make of that? >> i think they picked cyprus deliberately, the amount of push back they were going to get was limited. they have achieved every central banker's dream. they have privatized gains and socialized losses, this is the first of the domino to fall, i am worried it could spread to any nation in the world. they are subject to this. >> you know, we forget, crystal, we have precedent here in this country. but, as recently as 80s and 90s with s&l crisis and people were withdrawing their money, and many could not, bill hemmer, telling me his parents in ohio

were trying to get their money before the lights witness out it was scary. >> we have precedents for runs on the banks sure you just outlined a history of that, but in recent memory, americans do not have precedent for about what we're seeing in cyprus, it is really taking socialism and pushing it in to front and center of what governments can do. really what the e.u. said was, you want 13 billion-dollars from us, you have to put skin in the game, so i think what is troubling as we all have talked to. is the socialistic aspect of the bailout that it does not matter how much money you have earned over a lifetime 40 years 50 years of working some people are older, we're just going to take it all, more you have, the more we're going to take, that is the take away i'm sorry, but, if i was in cyprus, i would be rioting. neil, some people move their money out of the country, before march 15, now the government is going -- hunting them down, and

trying to take punitive measures, i would be like switzerland somewhere i don't think so. neil: keith? >> the news is reported that there has not been bank runs, the first glimmer that this was going to take place, the fast money got out of dodge, it is gone to singapore, and to other places. there was a backdoor run they have not reporteddity. so big money has been stolen twice. neil: that is a good point, john, that bridges up point, when they count their loot, the government, about how much they got, a realize we were trying to take 40 to 80% of rich guys money including oligarchs and mob guyssthat got the many out before theax fell, they will realize we did not get enough, we have to get more. tax. we might have to go down the food chain, and get more from lesser rich folk, right? >> yes, and rich folks are not

going to be there any more, the bank run will start as soon as they can get the money out, and this is economic suicide for cyprus. malta and le luck and luxemburga similar bank run, it is going down to 143%. >> you are right, let me show the imactage this is where, they have guards outside of the amt, machines, government is telling you how much you can withdraw, telling you you cannot leave the country with more than 3,000 euros, if they try, they will arrest you, they will keep track of how much withdraw you have, and how much every day, i don't know what the greek word is for big brother, but it is scary. >> welcome to the junction else. >> you are right.

>> in the meantime, no worries here, look at the dow, another record close. and look at this quarter. what a wonder. it does make you wonder if the markets are soaring, and economy is improving, and housing is returning, you would think certainly food stamps, they would be plummeting. just the opposite. food stamps are rocketing, how is that? why is that? we're on it. you won't believe it. plan plan look, if you have copd like me,

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enrollment in food stamps has soared 70% since 2008, as of last december, a record 47.8 million americans needed them, do that many americans need it? if they do, something is out of whack here. what gives? monica, what is going on? >> i think the markets became a bad gauge of how healthy the economy. is a while back. you have the companies -- >> the other numbers do confirm not to the degree of that frothiness but the economy is coming back a little bit. >> sure, and job numbers are snapping back a little bit, but overwhelmingly they still stink, most of jobs created are low wage jobs, all of that said, good intentions do not make up for bad execution, that is what you are seeing with a loot of the programs that are meant to

help people. but look at number of people getting benefits and the ability of people to stand up on their own, there is an argument programs are not having intended consequence. neil: what is going on, julie, 48 million americans get food stamps, i sound like callous person, i'm not saying no one should get food stamps, but how do we get to a position where close to 50 million americans are, not all need them? >> two factors, snap program got expanded with stimulus package. that expanded that snapping for. neil: you blame stimulus. >> i am not, that a great stimulus program. neil: wait, stimulus provided foot stamps to people who did not need them. >> i am not saying they don't need them. neil: 50 million americans don't need them. >> absolutely. neil: you are not saying we were doing better. >> no, a lot of people are doing

better but middle class has been eviscerated. and people who were doing well -- who are doing well are doing well, and those who are not, are not doing well. neil: she always said it so cold here. >> like a cryogenics lab here. >> matt, how can you have that many to food stamps, and it has grown exponentially something is not jiving. >> this is year 5 of obama presidency, at when point do we say, this is his economy. with his policies the economy has been hurt, when snap program, i give senator roberts from kansas a lot of credit, this is rife with waste, fraud and abuse, you can go to snap program, and buy clothing and pay union dues and job training, the states get bonus from federal government if they increase number of people to

food stamps, instead of rewarding them for getting peep identify food stamps, he has to build a cut out 36 billion of waste out of this program, and the fact that it has been up 70% brings barack obama has been in office, either barack obama is a huge failure or the program is. neil: it used to be if you got food stamps, no one would deny, the most callous taxpayer would begrudge those who needed to eat, but this says like onn out of 6 americans need food stamps to eat, i can not think that is the case. >> i echo your emotion and started starching at this numbe -- scratching at this number, you can make up to 200% of the poverty line, and for income in america today, that brings you to 46,000 a year and still qualify for snap, that is

according to state, looking at economy value of what get you who get the programs, you can make poverty line plus 130%, you can make 23,000 a year, you get 6,000 if you qualify for snap, if you qualify for second 8 housing you get 7500 more, and factor in recall of medicare that is -- you can make ache 6 a year, living on poverty line, and getting ought of th all of . neil: you rely on government to provide something for you to create app artificial stimulus, i guess food purchases, it is ass backwards. >> you complain about how the economy does not create jobs they are creating. but, you know have you -- lord

volt more, okay. the problem is there are a lot ampy who are starving to death,. neil: julie, i'm -- you are trying to do callous thing with me. i am saying, it is -- it is the nearly 50 million this is stunning me, the floorcasion of this. that is glorification of this that is concerning me, norman rockwell type ads we produce that we say this is something we should aspire to. have you sign the ads. i'm saying in that group fit >> i'm saying, i am criticizing the administration. neil: do you think it should be more. >> we've not done enough to lift people up in the middle class. neil: maybe so, but i cannot imagine, getting back to this, something is wrong, if this is growing at 3 times rate of inflation, i can do math.

that we're going to be soon at 70 million food stamps outpaces the growth in our population. let alone our ability to pay. >> please, it not our job to move people from one quadrant of the economy to the other, this is what a private economy does, what people do in their own lives and families, you are doing here, or some is defending a government program that is way off track, here is irony it takes a liberal president, which results in greatest property increase we've seen in our lifetime that turns and, supporting programs, that taken from middle class taxpayer to pay for people who are cheating the system, i do not see how that makes sense. >> if you don't want the government to lift up these people, why give the tax breaks too millionaires. >> please.

>> be consistent and say if you want -- >> you be. >> i will be. neil: i did. you said we're doing better. >> i said some of us are doing better. neil: you come back in next segment i am coming down to 32 degrees for you. >> i am saying bill oriley again. neil: she did it again, when we come back, president plans a dinner with republicans, on him, pat buchanan said don't bother rsvexpecting it all about him, and the warning about what is in your dinner, you heard about mr. ed in your burger, what if i told you, lassie ain't safe. ♪

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neil: break bread, make a logjam? the president hopes for, another invite to have dinner, and maybe search for common ground. bat -- pat buchanan has a message, what do you make of this? >> i think this is a smart move by barack obama, he is setting the republicans up for 2014, he will bring the senators in as he did at jefferson motel, schmooze them, and have them go out saying we can work with the president, then when there is a grand bargain -- and i don't think that the president wants a grand bargain -- they lay the blame at republican house, i think this is what this is about.

obama knows he is not getting the brand bargain. the question is, who do we blame for fact e did not get it, i think that barack obama is setting up the republican house very well. neil: would it be in their interest to try to strike a grand bargain with him, to say, if we can get him onboard with a simultaneous willing nose cut say entitlement spending or growth. they are open to closing tax loopholes and the like but with pro viceo they pulled trigger on same side. >> i think that is what the presidentments to do with the republican senate. see if he can get them to go along with what you are talking, some cuts in the growth of the medicare, medicaid. social security, at the same time republicans give in on all tax loopholes and the rest, they get a deal, but then they get

that to the house, and president of the united states knows very about that boehner's house, those guys cannot go home again if they raise taxes again, that is the graveyard of this brand bargain, that sets the republican house up for fall campaign much 2014, where president said, look you have mccain, and graham and worker and isakson, i had dinner with them, i can't work with this republican house, you got to get rid of those guys if you want a deal, it's not my fault, not republican senator asphalt but the foul of the house. neil: well, he would have to convince a lot of people, that triangulating the house, as he as done in past, sort of puts them in a box, they have no where to go but down but it would involve getting house to democratic majority, in two

years, how likely is that? i think you need to swing a 17 -- >> i think still unlikely because the republicans really have some well table ored different -- tailored districts where they can win, democrats are crowded into packed districts, i think it is difficult, but it is only strategy i think obama has got, he also neil will go in there i think say, look, we didn't get reform of immigration becausenese republicans will not go along in the house with path to citizenship, they won't go with background checks or people who are mentally ill and criminals, to keep these bushmasters out of their hands they will not helpous a budget deal, you look at it i've worked with these senators you have seen me, these are fellows responsible. neil: you know and have written on and worked with so many presidents over years, and were said about how ronald reagan

knew how to sort of dodge and weave with likes of tip o'neill and jim right and others, and this president, so when ronald reagan would reach out to other side there was a give and take, harder today and maybe, a president who is not as willing today but style alone when to the takes a group of them out for dinner whether a hotel or private residence. but what is the difference? what do you think difference is? reagan approach and 'this the? >> i think the president's approach is working. with some of those republicans because, they really would like to get what you looked at, sort of a major deal if they could get it, and they are willing to give up more, why -- where reagan could work with the house, is this. he had the blue dogs he -- >> you are right. >> he saw danny, and he wrote letters signed to danny come on

you can do it, 25% on the taxes, he had all those blue dog democrats in southern and rural districts, that reagan won in huge landslides, he could say, you are not against what i'm doing. you believe in a lot of it he had a working majority. neil: in other words, they don't have such a group like that. >> 45 to 60. we had a majority in the house. they were great guys they are all gone. neil: you are right. thank you, pat. >> thank you. neil: all right, how about buying on-line getting our page today. -- your package today, within hours after you point and click, a dude at your doorstep with what you just bought, walmart is trying it, but when you hear details, you might not buy it.

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neil: walmart starts same day on-line delivery. you order something that day, you get it the same day, but here is the bad news, maybe bad. a fellow walmart customer delivers it to you. that dude gets a discount on another walmart purchase to drop off your purchase. are you on board with that? same day from walmart, delivered

by a guy not necessarily from walmart, but shops there to retail and marketing experts, what do you make of this? >> i think ideally they want this to be a good idea, walmart has tried tony vate as much as -- tried to innovate as much as possible, there is no question amazon has taken away from walmart. they are trying to get customer back at shopping at walmart, but not like this crowd sources in this capacity, may work for a company small ir, maybe just starting up, and while warm is trying to create this, and create this technology to do it, they are not going to be able to. neil: only part that gives he pause, it will be another customer, i don't think how they convey that to customers, hey does anyone live in wherever new jersey we have a package we want to drop off to the cavutos, i

don't know, but maybe they work out the details. >> neil, i would be shocked in walmart did not have a very detailed plan about how this will work, and precisely. to make sure that people delivering the packages are checked in some way or have to register in some way. neil: what do you mean checked in some way? >> you have to register for some sort of a system. if you remember, it may seem radical to us, but in 1970s, a student proposed idea of shipping thin overnight, he -- shipping things overnight, he got a c on that paper that company became fedex, a company like wall-mart and company that is make this thing happen. neil: i first heard it, i am always impatient, i order something, i want to yesterday, someone told me it is not a walmart representative. it is like you know, fred. >> a customer. neil: i'm thinking well, wait,

this dude shows up at my house, it is scarey. >> a little scary. i spoke with's representative, they told me what they did in terms of en n innovation they ae trying to get on the ban bandwa. the ceo said, they were you know crowd forces is one thing they are looking at they acquired a company to help them create innovation solutions. neil: how about a greeter. >> i don't know if you want a greeter. >> they are bless ant. >> i think to your point too with in ttrms of cost, and insuring people, if they will be delivering things part time, you have to insure them, and make sure -- >> absolutely, and not a bad

dude, someone could say i'm getting $25 certificate to deliver a $2 thu $2 thousand flt screen tv, they will say, 25-dollars, 2000. i'm going to keep the tv. >> this is alreadying about done, there is a company out there, since 2010 they allow anyone 18 years old with a drivers been with a paypal account to deliver a package for anyone else, this is already being done. neil: you might be right. like someone delivers a pizza, you have no idea who is coming to the door, walmart is smart but that part 2 b bothers me. >> i think for walmart, and solution to not develop the technology inhouse, they should look at companies like zip it and try to either partner with them or acquire them, to create the technology in a infrastructure that will cost way too much money, they or a positive streak, they reported positive revenues last quarter,

and to use this money to develop a capax money to develop this -- >>. let me say one more thing. neil: uri. >> one more thing, the other thing we need to think about, walmart for example every day as a bakery they throw away day-old goods, imagine, you as customer say would you mind dropping off day old bakery goods at the soup kitchen. this is a way to engage the customer, and i think if they do to right, they have do it right it would be great for everyone. neil: we'll see, and you are right, they used to laugh at you know getting shipments overnight, and what have you, and same i did is knock knocks l leap. >> do you remember the clown. think worse. remember the irs "star trek"

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can keep illegally downloading episodes of agree, thanks to uncle sam your ship has come in. >> i can't see anything, but i don't know what that obama nation of cover of white stripes was. that was awful, don't do that in my earpiece again. neil: that was g.i. joe coming to a theater near you and any ahead. >> with channing tatum, such a doll. comes to u.s. advertising on piracy web site, if there were every a question that government has overstepped its original boundaries it is now advertising on piracy web sites, like stimulus project, they spent millions of dollars to put up signs saying your tax dollars are going toward stimulus project, the government should not use my tax dollars to

advertise to anyone how they are using my tax dollars. neil: you don't draw the line on whether it is a piracy site or not, you just don't want them to do it period. >> they don't need to be advertising anyway, it is inappropriate illegitimate role of government, a lot of people my edge, especially could not tell you the first or second amendment, the lesson my dad gave he, he used analogy of hockey referee. role of a hockey referee, to call the play, keep players, people safe from inside and outside, police force, military, and make sure that pace of the game is kept, make sure that people are playing by the rules, otherwise, you keep your whistle in your pocket that is role of federal government, if state

wants to have public schools that is fine, if state wants a housing program that is find, not the role of federal government like not role to advertise in the web sites. neil: you could use argument as well, that government chases where the view irs are. and they or these sites, then you are reaching that audience you to want reach even though you don't approve of what that audience is doing on that site. >> no you are right, i find funny on the same sites have you advertisement for support the arts, vote democrat. they don't see the irony, a generation of entitled losers, i am speaking of people i know my age. neil: all this money going to food safety, we're not gets much safety, and always fearing that mr. ed might end up in the burger, now a british indian restaurant that is filling its

curry with meat that is likely dog, cat or both. what say you. >> i heard it i was worried, until i opened e-mail, that in this instance it was just cat not dog, i breathed a sigh of relief. i am not a cat guy, you know that cats are a great pet, when they defin their cat, they say, no you would like my dat, h cats like a dog. just skip the middle man, just get a dog. why do have you a cat. a good example in united states, fda has overstepped their bounds, but, they failed to serve one purpose, one of fda would not tell me what i can and cannot put in my body but making sure that i know what i am putting in my body. let's say you are a diabetic, you get a serving of plaque ronnmacaroni andcheese, and youf

carbs, you need 40 grams of insulin now but they are off by 33 grams, so oh, no. we need that. you could have a problem. they fail to fulfill their original legitimate purpose. neil: you should calm down about the cat thing. we're told it tastes just like chicken. that is my attempt at humor, stive thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. neil: all right, well just because you are stupid, lazy, and clueless does not mean you cannot work for u.s. government. we got the proof that even if folks get killed, because you are all of the above, is no reason you should get fired by u.s. government. the real story behind benghazi is not a single state department official is going to lose their

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neil: you am when hillary clinton was in the hot seat over benghazi. >> people who made judgment errors need to be replaced and fired and no longer in place to make these judgment calls, if i were president at the time, and i found you did not read the cables from benghazi i would have relieved you of your post. >> unsatisfactory leadership is not grounds for finding a breach of duty. neil: 3 months after this. no one has been fired.

no one is expected to either. that makes republican congressman scott barry furious. he is planning to do something about it what are you doing? >> well, we have a bill where we empower the leader of state, state department to actually fire people who are derelict in duty, there is a accountability review board who can imply and say people have been derelict in their duty, in this case 4 people lost their lives, but they can do nothing about it. we have a secretary of state and a president, they are in high positions and should be able to fire people, we have this review board, my plan is while we're working on other things make sure they got teeth in there and recommend firing the people who are derelict. neil: you are in government, why is it so hard to 5 people in government?

-- to fire people in government? in my profession, if you look the wrong way or have bad ratings are you toast, but not in the government, a review process that could take weeks and months and years, no one is canned why? >> well, you know i think that there are some systems set up to say, we didn't like this when secretary was first lady went into the white house travel offers and fired everyone wholesale because they might not have agreed with her or been a member of her party. maybe there is a reason there are fees review boards, but not able it fire people who are insufficient in their duty to point where people get killed. neil: these -- you would agree with whether that is wise or prwise to do, but, these are not political apointments this is something you just perform, don't perform, keep, get fired.

>> right, then, i agree. absolutely. i guess this process has been in place, there has been i think about 19 review boards since 1988. convened. so this is our process while i think it should be streamlined. the other question, is, we have a secretary of state, and if she condition fire people, or he can't fire people, who can at that point? what point, the commity is working on next face of this, other thing to consider is accountability review board did not question secretary of state or deputy, what culpability did they have? we don't know, that is a prob. neil: it is, do you think anyone has or will be fired from this benghazi thing, i think that time has gm an come and gone. >> it does not appear to be that case, i think that former secretary feels she answered

adequately, we in congress do not feel we got an answer, we have no accountability, no one has been held to task on this. and where are we? neil: congressman thank you very much. >> thank you very much have a great day. neil: 86,000 suggestions to cut spending, nairy a one considered by white house, i have a succession for the white house. after this. your finances can't manage themselves, but that doesn't mean they won't try. brinall your finances together with the help of the one person who can, a certified financial planner professional. cfp -- let's make a plan.

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but not a lot of good ideas because few, if any, were taken up. which has some of my colleagues wondering what the heck. >> politics as usual. we see no focus with the politicians because it is not about fiscal discipline, it is not about saving money, it is about being reelected. this is why they are not coming together on both sides to make even the low hanging fruit compromises. until we as voters hold them accountable, they are only going to be taking action that satisfies the base, and that is not good for the country at large. neil: they asked us to be accountable, thought that was a great idea, we did a great job, whatever you come up with, let's pursue. and nothing. >> i disagree. this isn't the case of

politicians looking out for their own best interest, i think there is an ideological difference between republicans and democrats and between conservatives and liberals. i think the president thinks we are going to get the economy back through stimulus, through the government spending more money. he has no interest in making big cuts even in the long-term entitlement problems he has. john: a lot of those ideas include big cuts to these funds and that. >> don't think republicans deserve all the gold star either. they realize we will only get the economy going again w when e do something but the long-term debt problem. i don't think they get him on that. neil: so you think this is just a head fake? >> it is a gimmick. i always find them very amusing because they seem to support pierce morgan. neil: that is not a bad idea. >> it is a little wacky.

neil: i sent four of those and haven't heard back. >> it is very nice they are making people feel they are vested. neil: then why offer something if it is not going to be serious? >> as one of the guests said before, and ideological difference he is referring to precisely what i am referring to, it is all about the partisan politics. neil: but both sides do it. language should be a message all of us speak. neil: you and i have discussed it before, a lot of republicans should just admit we were spent aspendaholics. both should hold hands very tight, to a thelma and louise

thing, each sid decide to go ahd and agree to cuts to programs of their own, because both are doing it, something will come of it. in that case, it will. what do you think? >> are you asking me? neil: yes. >> i think you are right. neil: i just made that up. >> both sides deserve criticism they thought spending would largely not be important in the economy because we would have economic growth, but now we're realizing both parties that is a disaster, we cannot get economic growth without getting agreement on the budget issues. let me tell you, neil, we wouldy want to be thelma and deweese, but we haven't gotten a budget for two months overdue. at some point he has to realize he is a leader, he is the president, he just got elected. neil: he will in a week or so.

>> two months late. >> it did not work because eric cantor came in and the botched it. what else are you going to do? john boehner and obama tried to come to a compromise, the tea party lost its. neil: make it even colder. i am sick and die you. final thoughts. >> we are looking for maturity. neil: maybe that is why o'reilly hates you. i'm kidding. that will do it here. we're focusing on what is going on in cyprus tomorrow. they cannot take out all of th