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but, first, the fop story tonight, pay up for better fuel economy some people are doing that, only to have the engine shut down on the highway according to a new lawsuit filed by three ford owners. thsuit claims the ford ecoboost engines are defective and lose power when the driver is accelerating. this echoes complaints filed with the federal government, but there's still not an investigation or a recall. with more on this. jake fisher, director of auto testing at consumer reports. jake k welcome to the show. so what do you think of this? i mean, look, these cars, they shake, they stall, they stall when you have your foot on the gas pedal. what do you think of this? >> well, this is not a pleas -- pleasant thing as all if you're a customer, especially if you spend extra on fuel economy and see it's not working. not even an inconvenience, but something that angers the drivers. gerri: 2500 bucks more per

engi per car. look athe cars with the engines in them, the ford flx, th taurus show, lincoln market sedans, f150, the pickup, forked goodness sakes, ford explorer, all over the darn place. jake, i have to ask, you told the producer this is no safety risk. how so? >> well, it depends on what goes on. if the engine shuts down op the ghway, that is a safety risk. some thngs, what the complaints are about is that it is stuttering, not getting a really good driving experience or something like that. that's another animal. we're -- we have to see what's going on. we have data on the cars and see problems with that, reliability issue, fuel system problems, but the difference between a safety issue where car is leaving you completely stranded or something like that and it's a reliability issue. gerri: if it stops while i accelerate on to a highway, i

consider that a safety issue. there's maybe somebody behind me. talk about the work you at cr have done on this because yo are out in ont of the idea of turbo charged engines, good, bad, what have you said? >> wel, you look at the engines -- so it's really a new technology that ford is doing and others do, too, to get better fueleconomy and give you a good amount of power. what we've seen with the turbo charged engines from fo and others, that although the epa advertised fuel economy numb looks higher, in the real world and testing, there's not the results. gerri: well, that's a bummer; right? y call it the ecoboosts unless it boosts gas milage? listen, if i had one of these engines in my car, i truly think i would be tempted to call ford, take it back, i want another engine. what do i do if i own one of these, jake? >> if you own them, they are under warranty.

brg them to theer, say i'm not walking out, i want it fixed. they will fix it. th's what you got to do. you're protected with the warranty. gerri:here's a difference between fixing it and a new engine. which of the two thing are they likely to do? >> depends on what the problem is. if there's a way to foolproof fix it and turns into an electronic issue to fix, hat's going to be fine,it's -- it's a growing pain. it's a new technology, new engine, if they need to figure out how to fix it, if you can get a new ecu or fuel inject tore and that fixes it, that's fine, but we're going to have to see how ford reacts to this. gerri: what aout te federal government? where'sed feds on this? >> they are looking into safety issues. again, if this turns into that this is a real issue, that the cars are stopping on the highway causing accidents, absolute, the feds need to react. if it's a matter of the engine stuttering, th it may be different. gerri: shimmy, shake, and stall,

that's not a dance, but your engine. thank you, appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. gerri: well, we've got another big question tonight. are loal governments motivated by public safety or greed? in the case of red light cameras, there's mounting evidence that it's greed, my frnds. the latest example comes from florida where the time for yellow lights was shortened sending fines through the roof. joins us, the florida state senator from one of the districts where drivers are getting caught in tampa. jeff, thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. how did this get started? why are they startenning the yellow light times? >>ure, back in 2010, they, the state of florida, allowed the mew municipalities for addition until flexilit when they gave them that, some of the municipalities were rushed to the minimums at the interstions. gerri: that's what? three seconds against five or six? >> what happened washey moved

to the shorter light times. taking half a second away is, you know, dramatically increasing the amount of red light tickets issued. >> nay are expensive in florida, 300 bucks orsomething? >> up to $265. gerri: wow. i assume that pople in the district are complaining; true? >> absolutely. you know, i describe it as shock andawe, shock the process is taking place, and that these municipalities do this, and awe that nothing has been done yet. i mean, we should never be put profits or anything like this front of the lives of our constituents and our citizens. gerri: if i came upon this, i might jam on the brea and te person behind me rams met. does that happen a lot? >> that's a major complaint, and, in fact, we're looking at revising our local laws to look at accidents occurring within 150 meters of the intersection because many times people

consider what happens in the intersection as an accident, but ings leading up to the inteection are accidents too. we look at broadening the scope of accidents. gerri: that's a stupid bureaucratic designation that needs common sense brought to it. unbelievable. we studied this kind of thing up in new york. you know, people in new york, washington, all over the country, florida, putting the rules into place, and aaa doesn't like the saying they create accidents, and a they say, interestingly, the effort is to raise money for the state government. they say they are not even spending the money on public safety, just one in ten dollars goes to public safety. what do you think of that? >> no. that's exactly right. this goes into the general revenue fund, not public safety at all. it's unconscionable what's happening. gerri: you want to kill cameras all together, tell me about that. >> at this point, we look at the systems saying, these were sold as public safety, and what we're

finding is that municipalities turn them into profit center, and that's absolutely should not be the case. gerri: rear rashes rose 44% in a st. peterburg study aftr the implementation of this thing. fight the good fight there, senator. you know, good luck, god speed, and let us know if u get traction thank you for the help tonight. >> thank you,e're going to keep working on it, thank ou so much. gerri: more to cme this hour. a lot more, in fact, including if you're one of the millions trying their luck at the lottery this weekend, we have better ways to play it, and conventional wisdom thrown out the window for seniors, why financial advisers tl you to keep your mortgage into your golden years. don't pay it off, they say. ♪ before copd...

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>> i do a lot of education on blogs and radio shows and so forth, and i interview a lot of torneys, and the first thing they say is if they are gng to pursue a lawsuit, they. to know they can get money, and the first thing they do is a title search to see if yo have equity. gerri: wow. if you own the house ree and clear, it's a target on your back for people in that age category. you also say it's a good way to build diversification. how so? >> oh, absolutely. you know, if you have all of your equity in one place, how is that diversification? so often most people have most of tir money in their home. they spent years paying it off. now they have a big bucket of money, but it's just sitting like we said, a sitting duckfor others tslip and fall op your property, so that is dangerous. if you refinance, first of all, now there's a loan on that property, it's not interesting to app attorney because they can't do anything with the equity. it's somewhere else. maybe you take a few hundred

thousands out and buy investment where the come pays off the debt. put properties in an llc, not in your name, and it'svery difficult to track who owns those propertie gerri: all right. basically, what you do as simple comparison of the rate of interest that you would get on that jumbo refi, 3.79 is the current level, and what you could earn in on investment. if you now you can earn 5%, 6%, 7%, that might make sense; right? >> well, that's exactly what the banks do. they borro money, and legend out for 3%more. now it's pretty much free. they lend it for it, you know, the 3.5-4% range. why can't we do the same thing? why can't we borrow from our homes and invest it or more? you know, people say, where am i going to get 6.5%? there's a lot of places to get that return. you just need to know what you

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gerri: pour ball jackpot surging to the largest power ball in history. that's right. couldn't miss that newspapers; right? the top prize jumping top an estimated $600 million with the cash payout of nearly 380 million. so, how do yplay to win it? joining me now, seven time lottery game prize winner is the author of the new book "learn how to increase your chances of winning the lttery: a recipe for winning the lottery." richard, howdo you win multiple lotteries? >> well, the way i have won multiple lotteryings is for playing for 25 years. this is not justing? that happened overnight. in the beginning, i was like everybody else. i didn't know what i was doing, and i was buying lottery tickets hoping to win, and like everybody else, i was losing all the time, and so i just started coming up with ideas to see if i could improve my chances, and some of my ideas didn't work, so, of course, threw them out

the window, but some ideas worked. as i accumulated ideas that worked, enajftly got to a -- i eventually got to a point where there were results and won the first grand prize. gerri: you say it's not abt luck? luck's not a part of the creation? >> luck has nothingo do about this. luck is just fooling themselves. gerri: huh. get down to it. talk about the things you do. what number -- certain numbers that you play? play the most common, least common, what do you do? >> no, that's all about a hogwash. there's no -- somebody -- everybody thinks there's magic to get the best and worst numbers to play. there are no best and worst numbers. it's the set. remember, a single number doesn't win, a set wins. i teach people in the method that after yo picked your set of numbers, and it doesn't matter how, some is birthdays, anniversaries, some are the numbers that come up the most or least, but once you pick them,

there's a research that you do, and it's in the book, it's simple to do, and it'll tell you if that's a good set of numbers. if it is, nowyou stick with that set of numbers. you play that same set of numbers, never change them or miss a draw. gerri: now, but what makes a good number, richard? >> again, it's not a number. it's a set of numbers. gerri: right. >> it's when you -- it's hard to explain it in a short interview. it's a process that takes a limit of time. it's just like anything in life. if you really want something bad enough, you have to be willing to spend spend time and effect on it. gerri: you have. what do you think a computer generateddedumbers, that's bad? use the sam number over and over again; rht? >> yeah, don't buy quick picks. i know people out there sying, what do you mean don't? i always buy hem. well, have you won yet? the reason why you don't -- the reason why you don't is because

every single time you do so, you're getting a comuter generated set of numbers, and it's always different so your odds will be at the worst. gerri: right. keep the same set of numbers every time. now, you say something here, i just -- i really hate to hear, really. you say buy as many tickets as you canfore. really? that seems like a waste of money to e me. a penny pincher. >> no, no, no, the keyword there is "afford," i'm firm about this. buy as many tickets as you can afford. listen, times are tough out there, and unfortunately, when the jackpots are this high, people get crazy and get lottery fever, and they spend more money on tickets than they afford. yes, by them, otherwise you don't have a chance, but don't spend more than you can afford, don't spend represent money or gresh ri money. be careful about what you spend because, you know, no matter there's a winner tomorrow night or not, one thing is forsure, there's going toe millions of

losers. don't wake up seein you're a loser, but figure out how to replace the money you spent that you shouldn't have spent. gerri: richa, you playing this one? >> oh, absolutely. i got my tickets. gerri: buy a lot? >> well, i never people how much i buy, and here's why. i am absolutely not trying to hide anything. people get influenced very easily, and i don't want people to think, oh, my gosh, richard spends so much, and he's won seven times so i have to do that to win seven times. that's not what this is about. don't worry about what other people spend. you figure ootwhat you can afford. gerri: i have to ask this question, and you won't answer, what's the number? what's your set of nubers? >> ha-ha, i have re than one set of numbers so it -- gain, i've done the research, and i know what sets of numbers have a better chance of winning. will i definitely win? of course it doesn't. if i told people they were --

they followed my method and dparn teed a p grand prize, i'd be lying, and people are foolish to believe me. what i teach people s how to play the game to increase their chances of winning. gerri: okay. well, i guess you got to play to win, but i have not bought a ticket because i'm a cheapskate. richard, thanks for coming on, and appreciate the help. >> come on, at least buy one, just one. gerri: more likely to be struck by lightning in a bear suit, richard, thank you. >> you're welcome. gerri: what do you think? here's the question tonight. are you playing the power ball, log , vote on the righthappen hand side of the screen, and i'll share the results at the end of the show. time for a look at stories you click on tonht on foxbusiness.com. encouraging news abou the economy sent stocks soaring. bo the dow and s&p 500 are back in reord territory. the obama administration further

expaing the u.s. role in the international gas trade. a second terminal to export lick mid natural gas, and phil flynn calls that a historic moment. another cyber attack, this time on twitter accounts and a blog run by the financial times claimed by the syria electronics sympathetic to the scry's rebels. it's been secured since. clear wire, hit a snag, expecte to vote down next week forcing sprint to cough up more cash who owns morthan 50% of clear wire and offered t buy the rest for under $300 a share. those are thehot stories right now on foxbusiness.com. coming up, can an artist take pictures through a wdow and sell them? maybe picture of you. it happened in new york city. find out if it's legal. he says mistakes were made, but he's sorry. lawmakers not letting the outgoing irs chief off the hook

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just it's been a busy week of denials from the administration that claims to know nothing about the three scandals engulfing the white house. as lou dobbs pointed out last night, they're not doing much to fix things. >> we call the i don't know administration. now the president is using this newantra, he says that he just wants to fix things. he doesn't want to talk about benghazi, the irs, the justice department. the acting commissioner of the irs is out een though he was planning to leave in a uple

weeks. the president still has, he says, complete confidence in his attorney general even though 131 congressmen, eight senators and two governors have called for holder's resignation over the fast and furious scandal. forgot about that scandal? be. gerri: i don't know, i couldn't imagine knowing. they're amazing, lou. are you talking about this tonight? >> oh, absolutely. as we are now calling it, this know-nothing administration because everyone seems to have exactly the same mantra. it was on full display again today. outgoing commission steve miller claiming he doesn't know who's responsible for targeting conservative groups. even at one point he said he did talk to somebody, but he can't remember what they told him about that. and he wants the big fix for him he says the irs needs a bigger budget, just a little more money. that's kind of typical of what you hear from washington, isn't it? well, in tonight's chalk talk we'll lay out what has become a pattern for this

administration -- claiming ignorance, asking for more money. you know, it's starting to be a very sad, perhaps even tragic pattern in this administration. we'll find out where these scandals are goi, gerri. gerri: well, look forward to seeing you on in about 28 minutes. thanks so much, lou. good to see you. >> good to see you. gerr for more on totoday's explosive hearing, michael reagan, founder of the reagan group, iswith us. michael, i have to ask you straight up what did you make of this hearing? >> i don't know. gerri: what do you mean you don't know? [laughter] >> no, i don't -- i figured why not answer it the way they aner it? i don't know. i don't know how all these things happen. i mn, this is so typical in washington. i mean, iguess all of us are waiting for that perry mason moment when steve miller's just going to give it up and say listen, you know, joe biden lled me, the president called me and asked me to do these things, and everybody goes home and says, look, i knew this was

what it was. this is a game that's played in washington. it's sad and good the same time. everybody is, in fact, touched by the irs. gerri: i am. >> and everybody understands what the irs does to a family, a busiss or what have you when they get their claws into you. so it's good that they see steve miller denying, not knowing what to do, the president of the united states saying i'm going to fix it. but if he doesn't know about it, he doesn't know what to fix, and then he goes out and plays a round of golf. it's good that they finally see it, unfortunately, it's about three or four months too late. gerri: you mentioned what the irs can do to you, they can garnish your wages, put you in jail, take your assets. they have, ultimately, all power. but what miller said in defense of himsf was shocking to me. it was about customer rvice. listen to this. >> we provided horrible customer service here, i will anytime that. we did -- i will admit that.

we did, horrible customer service. whether it was politically motivated or not is a very different question. gerri: customer service, are you kidding ? is that what -- that's not even in the ballpark of customer service. >> oh, they had great customer service if you were an obama foundation or you were from the liberal left, but they had lousy customer service on the other side when they were looking into conservative groups out there. and i'd like to know who gave harry reid all the information on mitt romney's tax returns. where did that come from? has anybody talked to axlerod, see if helayed a part in all of this? and the other night joe trippi on fox actually said that they weren't really worried about ohio. they were going to win ohio going away -- gerri: right. >> -- a noby was worried about ohio. i about fell out of my chair with all of that that's going on. anall these things going on, benghazi. by the way, bill press, used to head up the democrat party in california, now a liberal talk show back iwashington, d.c.,

called for the resignation of eric holder also. so this is getting to be very, very bipartisan at the justice department. and i think the irs to be the undoing of a whole t of peop back in washington d.c. gerri: well, i want you to hear some sound from camp, dave camp, who has been very critical of this. he was very good in this hearing. here's the congressman. >> this is a problem of the irs being too large, too powerful, too intrusive and too asive of honest, hard working taxpayers. gerri: well, i mean, that sums it up. but i've got to tel you, there's more going on here. you can say theroblem's the tax code, but look, thisis like watergate to me. i mean, these allegations are true, i mean, you know, the whwhite house and the administration usg the government to kill their political opponents. >> where but remember at the same time sarah ingram who headed up that office havg to do with all these issues they're looking into about tax-exempt

organizations is now heading up the affordable care act office under the irs. gerri: unbelievable. >> so if you think it's going t get bett, america, bar the door, sly. it is not going to get better with this same organation, this same group, same people looking into your paycheck to find out whether you've t health care or not. gerri: i want you to hear a story we reported not too long ago. the irs overpaying $13.5 billion on the earned income tax credit, that program for low income families in 2012. it's just mistake after gaffe after oops, i can't answer that question. what needs to happen here? >> yeah, what they need to do is put people in place when they go to washington, they're stepping down in their career, not stepping up. and so many of those people are actually stepping up. remember my father's administration, he went after people who were stepping down to serve their government, to serve

their country, not people that it was the best job they'd ever had in their entire career. and they were just giddy with the fact they were getting paid more than they've ever been paid before, and they'll never have any career afterwards. no. start electing and appointing people who really want to serve usnstead of people who want to takerom us. gerri: boy, i heard a lot of cya today. it really sounded like protect myself, cover my butt here. and a little arrogant too, i thought. do you agree with that? >> oh, absutely right. this whole thing is about -- well, you know, it was on my watch, i was there for two and a half minutes, and all thee things happened, and it happened on my watch and, therefore, i'm a good guy, i'm going to ste down on this. never did answer the question, by the way. what about those people who did this? have they, has anything happened to them? well, we put them in another position at the irs. we don't want them in another position at the irs, we want them on the foodline, on the unemployment line, not in

another position at the irs. [laughter] by the way, these things don't just happen in a vacuum where people wake up in the morning and say, you know, i think we need to go after the conservative groups out there and really attack them in ohio and other places. gerri: no, right. >> no, somebody at the top level made the phone call, asked the question and began the ball rolling. and that is the person whose head needs to be on the chopping block. not steve miller. gerri: well, we don't have that yet, and i don't know we will. we'll have to wait and see. michael, it is always great to see you. thank you so much for coming on the show. so much fun talking with you. >> thank you. gerri: well, now on to this day in business. in 1973, way back then, televised hearings on the escalating watergate affair began. five men were arrested for breaking into and illegally wiretapping the dnc headquarters in washington. the house judiciary committee has adopted three articles of impeachment against president nixon, obstruction of justice,

abuse of presidential powers pod hindrance of the impeachment process. four days later, nixon became the first esident in u.s. history to resign. and today televised hearings surrounding the irs began. jay carney receny stated he was confident no one at the white house was involved and dismissed any comparisons to watergate, but it all started today, may 17th, when the televised watergate hearings began 40 years ago. when we come ack, we'll take you to one of the hottest hotels in new york city featuring a spa, gouet meals, but it's the clientele that may surprise you. and next, an artist and teacher -- [inaudible] people through their windows.% is it art or an invasion of privacy? our legal panel weighs in. ♪ ♪ come to my window, crawl inside, pray by the light of the moon. ♪ there

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♪ ♪ gerri: imagine pictures of you in your private moments on display and on sale, and you're not making a penny from it. tonight's legal case is srking outrage as a peeping tom photographer is selling images of his unsuspecti neighbors through their windows at his new york city art gallery, but is it legal? joining me now, attorney jennifer bonnjean. and wheal. lis, is it leg? >> no, it's not legal. he's making money, $7500 in this art exhibit that he's doing, exactly, a lot of mony, off people who are completely unsuspecting. he's going through and just peeping on them. they're upskirting and down blousing laws, and this is one those. gerri: upskirting and -- do you agree with this? look, he i making a ton of dough, $7500 a pop.

>> just because it feels like a violation of privacy doesn't make it that way under the law. in new york the right to privacy is governedty in -- governed by the new york city -- you have to have an unauthored picture. >> yes. >> here's the problem with this case. >> they're unauthorized. >> you can't -- it's only the subjects themselves who know, so it's not entirely clear. you don't see their faces, so it's not entirely clear that their privacy is being impinged upon. furthermore, in new york city do you have an expectation privacy? >> yes. in your own home? >> wdows wide open in a lot of -- [laughter] >> in your own home? >> yes, when you live right next to -- listen, when i go to sleep at night, i close my blinds. >> wow, you're putting -- look -- >> i can see across here right now, i could snap some shots. >> if we're walking down sixth avenue, i'm with you. when i'm in my own home at night whether i'm in the city or not, i have an expectation of pracy -- >> lis, this is new york city.

this isn't the middle of, you know, some small town. >> no, no, no. >> i can look down the street - gerri: i'm familiar with these kinds of places, and they are wide open. let me rd you what the photographer himself had to say, then i want to get both of you to react. he ssor my subjects there is no question of privacy. they are performing on a stage of their own creation with the curtain raised high. the neighbors don't know they are being photographed, i carefully shoot them from the shadows of my home into theirs. >> peeping tom. >> exactly. it may sound a little creepy. i'm not comfortable with it, but it doesn't make it a lawsuit, and that's what we're talking about. you still have to have certain elements met to bring cause of action, and it just doesn't meet those elements because he is on property that belongs to him, he is -- these people do, everyone knows if you leave your blinds wide open, somebody walking on the street can look inside. i live -- gerri: so, okay, respond to that, to the whole issue of the

blinds are open. maybe the lights are on. and you can -- it's like being, it's like being on a stage. >> it is, it's like being. >> -- >> from an artist perspecte, sure. >> the supreme court has ruled on this. no. once you're in your own home, you have a complete expectation of privacy. >> that's a fourth amendment issue, that's not right. the supreme court has no ruled on the right of privacy. the righ of privacy in the state of new yoris governed by the new york civil rights law. it says unauorized use of pictures. gerri: all right, let's give lis a chance to respond. >> unauthorized use. >> but not to identify anybody. >> no, no, you're mixing apples and oranges. unauthorized use is unauthorized use. when he takes the picture, that isot being authorized. you're making the point about the public vocation of them and the privacy issue. do you not think that those people know exactly who they are? how would they even know to bring this case? >> what are the damages? they're the only person who knows they're in the picture, there are no damages.

that's why there's no cause of actionere. and this is not the same type of -- gerri: okay, violation of a right to privacy, this is another thing that i think is interesting about this case. there's artistic expression, right, which should be first amendment protection. >> absolutely. gerri: is this artistic expression? >> not when you're peeping into someone else's home. >> new york state leans on the side of free expression, free speech. new york will not fi this to be a violation. gerri: lis, you've got to have last word here. >> invading someone's home,% that's different. gerr we've got to ask our viewers to weigh in, because clearly, it spar deba. [laughter] thank you both for coming on. great stuff. i don't want to be shot like that, i'll tell you. >> i don't either. [laughter] gerri: still to come, my two cents more on ridiculous waste in detroit, and next we go in fashion at the brand new luxurious hotel. wait until you hearhat this inn has to offer your furry

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brok it is probably not news to you. apparently, it is his to some in detroit. board of trustees of the pension fund are traveling to a conference this week in hawaii. the tab is being picked up by those funds. the money covers airfare, registration fees, meals and a six day stay at the hilton beach resort in honolulu. they say the conference is needed to help trustees do their job. i know in thecheme of things, $22,000 is not that mu money. maybe you should store that 20 grand mewhere else. that is my two cents more. coming up on monday, it is the next frontier in the battle to protect your privacy.

"the willis report" needs a special investigation into personal medical investigation. it all starts mnore. we shall see. tomorrow night. >> government against the little guy. >> you never thought working on his own property would cost him. >> please dante i have worked so hard for. >> they said they want to help the little guy. >> but the support comes with strings. >> investing in $200,000 to apply for the permit that never arrived. >> so many have been stifled >> they may have not even thought about coming into this city. >> they also stifle ways to get around town. >> why can't everyone? >> because bureaucrats are against the little guys. tonight.