david: the number one thing to watch tomorrow will be the bank of japan. investors looking for any clues on international banking policy. cheryl: "money" with melissa francis now. melissa: here is what is "money" tonight. edward snowden goes off the grid. but the fallout is just beginning. is china licking his chops? another nsa whistleblower on what it is like. plus community windowshopping like this before. suitable windows in new york city. the first plan to look how they can revolutionize the industry. and who made money today? some serious green from egg whites. in one essay it is not, it is always about "money."

our top story tonight, the latest revelations of the nsa whistleblower. 29-year-old high school dropout edward snowden admits he -@released the details behind te phone management defines everywhere. in hong kong but now reportedly in an undisclosed location. questions are swwrling about whether he will be extradited back to the u.s. and why he chose hong kong as his first stop to begin with. senior intelligence analyst for 30 years, not using technology that may have prevented the september 11 terror attack. one nsa whistleblower to another, does it sound authentic to you? >> hi, melissa.

thank you for having me. at first it does. seems articulate, knowledgeable. i didn't hear anything i didn't sound like it was at least plausible. so i am looking for an emotional reason, i don't see it. he was very stable, actually. this guy believes he is doing the right thing. melissa: i watched the video and number of times. he is very concerned to seem like about his safety at this point. i wants to play part of the interview and ask you if you think his fear is justified. >> you cannot come forward against the most powerful intelligence agencies and be completely free from risk because ttere are such powerful adversaries. if they want to get you, they will get you in time. melissa: he goes on to talk

about where he is sitting there is a station down the street and they will be busy for months following him. do you think he is right to feel like he will be watched forever? >> want to say he is closer to being right than wrong. even though i have been with the nsa for 10 years, the technologies made available to the u.s. government have increased quite a bit. and we hear about the government running drones, we hear about things of this nature. we see the irs willing to target groups and there is some summation of that. it doesn't give the typical american citizen and i and easy feeling. melissa: anybody in his position could see, turnkey tyranny.

do you think he had access? >> i don't have any reason to doubt him. he is an information technology guy, system administrator. they have access to a lot of the communications infrastructures serving the intelligence, and to the computers hooked up to those networks and so forth. he sounds like he was in a position to be able to know quite a bit. melissa: i want to bring in the official who is going to join this conversation as well. what do you think of what you have heard so far and what you think of what he is saying. >> i don't want to make light of the serious abuses he has reviewed. he has looks to me like outrageous violations of the fourth amendment prohibiting unreasonable search and seizure. on the underhanded not a sympathetic figure.

he went to the one place maybe next to canada and great britain for which it is extremely easy to extradite someone. melissa: has moved an undisclosed location to maybe he figured that out and he is gone. >> he may have flipped over, but it is unlikely he has made a wise choice. he has revealed some interesting thing, i doubt he has seen quite everything he reported to have seen. melissa: h.by pattern of behavir going on and what he is doing jiving with a lot of what he has been doing. this idea of turnkey tourney.

why he felt it was important to bring it to the american public. i will ask you to react on the other side, let's take a listen. >> government is going to grant themselves power unilaterally to create greater control over american society and global society, but they won't be willing to take a risk necessary to stand up and fight to change things, to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interest. melissa: he was saying the reason why he came forward to speak is because he wanted the american public to understand the government was going out and just cast in this huge dragnet storing all this information. in fact we have video of it. the huge farm in utah just together information on all of us in case at some point in the future would look to be under

suspicion and even if you are innocent he can go back in time and pull all of these records every conversation you ever have and build a case against you. he says he wants american public know this is going on and then decide for yourself is it okay? he's afraid americans won't stand up and say this isn't okay, but do you buy this is a, going on and you believe that is why he did it? >> i believe that is possible. i say that for a couple of reasons. i have over 30 years, we have complained that there was corruption management of the programs back in the 2001 timeframe. it turned out our complaint was vindicated in the sense the trailblazer program launched by then director was an utter

failure in 2005. now you say okay, somebody had a failure, what people don't realize is that was intelligence of magnitude. melissa: do you believe that is why he came forward and said this? >> look at what happened to us. report was issued and covered up, nothing happened, nothing changed. melissa: what do you say? >> we want to know why. i think americans got that amount of surveillance that we have gone from that to this in the obama administration for their collecting phone records and half of america, maybe more. we ought to be dialing this back. not the same effaced on september 12. they said the war on terror is

over. i welcome a public debate. i don't think they should conceal it from the public. let's do democracy. melissa: we appreciate your thoughts. time for report, the new report shows 10% of the world recoverable oil may be within u.s. shale, about 345 alien barrels of crude. nearly one third of all recoverable natural gas may be contained in those fields. the generator at the nuclear plant is malfunctioning. according to iran's ambassador to russia. technicians are reportedly working to resolve the issue. the plant began operations nearly two years ago. 95.77 per barrel.

coming up next on "money." have you seen the new look for the phone app icon? the guy who wrote inside apple to tell us of the company has bitten off more than it can chew. and it booze over food stamps. do you think people who get them should be force to eat healthy? a new proposal taking government handouts on its head. coming up. ♪ it's monday.

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melissa: nerd fest 2013 has officially begun. fun fact, at least 6000 tickets sold out in 71 seconds. how is that even possible? some slick new products. it is a cool new minimalist design for the mobile operating system but apple hasn't been so hot as of late. a man who knows as much about apple as tim cook himself, adam shooadamjasinski.

what did you love? >> let's set the record straight, i do not know more about apple then tim cook himself, i would never say that. melissa: they said almost as much and i gave you even more props than that. >> thank you. certainly nothing more than that man. i also thought how can you sell out in a little over a minute. you must have automatic credit cards, he had to opt out from that. i would say while i was impressed with the things they showed us today, wasn't overwhelmed, i wasn't alone away. it met my fairly minimal expectations. mangels and help those who write programs for apple products to learn from the company what they

had to know. they did nothing that made us run out of the name and run t telephone and say stop the presses. melissa: when was last time you went this revolutionary? >> in 2010 when introduced the ipad. people giggled about it and said what is this thing? melissa: we giggled about the name. it did not sound so good. this is becoming a major multibillion dollars success story for apple, but that was in fact the last time. melissa: what did you see that you did like? >> it is what the press has been calling this unannounced product. apple announced it in their calling it itunes radio.

they really did not even announce it with great fanfare, they just sort of announced it. the most interesting to me did was a complete redesign of ios, mobile operating software. it has new icons, apple takes the icons very seriously. steve jobs put a lot of time at the icon and for them to redesign most of them to a completely new look, it is their way to say we will look different in the future. melissa: so you like that? >> sure. from a business perspective, so what. it doesn't matter i liked it or don't like it, it is making things prettier. melissa: was there any outside apps or outside products that seemed interesting to you? >> there were not.

the only demo the outsiders did the other demos for all internal demonstrations of ways they had enhanced their products. for example, theyyreleased the latest version of the main software. they didn't bring a recording artist in, they didn't bring in something mind blowing, they showed one that didn't have a clichy starts to it. melissa: what do you get today's presentation? >speaker to get a gentleman's b+ because apple is very good. anything apple does is good. if you grade it against apple, b+, a.

i spent a long time following this. meeissa: appreciate it, was fun. coming up on "money," should everybody be getting a hand out to eat healthy? the controversial idea that says if you are on food stamps you better cut out the junk food. can you evee have too much money? we went out and asked people a simple question:

how old is the oldest person you've known? we gavpeople a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have knownomeone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, onehing that hasn't changed much is thefficial rerement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you he the money you ne to enjoy all of these years. ♪ always go the extra mile.ears. treat my low testosterone, i did my research. my doctor and i went with axiron, the only underarm low t treatment. axiron can restore t vels to normal about 2 weeks in most men. axir is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially ose who are or who may become pregnant

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melissa: whether it is on wall street or main street, here's who made money today. anybody who owns mcdonald's. the egg white mcmuffin, which is fabulous, and the premium rep.

sending the stock climbing 1%. also making money, investors and facebook finally getting a huge upgrade: facebook on the most compelling investments in the internet sector. somebody bought it. losing money today, billy joel, the piano man according to tmz bought it for 13.57 million years ago, but after all those real estate commissions is actually going to lose money on the deal. the fashion billionaire boss the waterfront palace. food fight, yes, another one over the food stamp or stamp program. our government seems to love so much. how the number of people getting them is higher than ever before.

what do you think about this, for bidding food stamps to be used on junk food forcing recipients to eat healthy? they have proposed this plan, needless to say democrats are up in arms of how it further stigmatizes the poor. in chicago with more. >> do you feel like you have enough government intrusion? do you want government in the kitchen cupboard making restrictions which mark one lawmaker in particular things the rules are different when it is tax dollars puttin than the n that cupboard. >> she buys food for her kids and pays for groceries with her food stamp cards. >> i know a lot of people who use the cards just for junk. >> trying to change that, his bill would mandate two-thirds of the groceries bought with government assistance be food items like vegetables, eggs and milk, only one third could buy

treats, soda and chips. >> obesity's, juvenile diabetes, those things that occur because they want to eat healthy go back to government assistance. report my visit is the bill that would invite big government into the kitchen cupboard and targets the poor. and government would get a new burden of defining what constitutes healthy food. >> we are trying to reduce the role of government so it seems contrary to what we're trying to do. >> however they think it is fair. >> he kind of have to go by the guidelines. not only food assistance beneficiaries for who we have spoken are as agreeable. a lot of people think this is government kicking poor people when they are down. melissa: it is a federal prison

so they have the right to make the rules like this? speak other states have tried to change the federal program and failed. what he really wants is a waiver from theefederal government so scouts and can go ahead with its own implementation of restriction he believes wisconsin can blaze the trail for the rest of the nation. melissa: my other thought was it is a lot cheaper to buy junk food than it is to buy fresh fruit and fresh vegetables, your dollar goes a lot farther. right? >> you can make pasta and red sauce last a long time. when you're counting dollars and cents, this can making thanks a lot more difficult for poor people as well. there's a lot that goes into the opposition. melissa: where do you put that

line. >> you have to put a whole new bureau of government. melissa: you killed me with that. that's not do it, forget it. thank you so much. next on money, project so ambitious it would make new line musk blush. two companies set their sites. it is not as insane as it sounds and the payoff could be worth tens of billions of dollars. you have got to hear this one. plus when celebrities promote products like social media is it ever genuine or are they always getting paid to do it? maybe surprised by the answer. now the fed are looking to crack down. "follow the money" up next. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 [ trader ] when i'm trading, i'm so into it,

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melissa: matter what time it is, money is always on the move. shares of lululemon getting pummeled after hours. she is stepping down from the company, she spent five and half years at the helm stepping down once her successor is named and also says she does not plan to stay on the company's board of directors. interesting. the stocks getting killed. two u.s. companies are looking for an unusual source for precious metals.

asteroids. in deep space industries are working on a spacecraft that would lasso small asteroids and drag them into the earth's orbit to extract valuable minerals. hard to believe but in seattle with more. i love this story. >> you sound incredulous. you are not buying this? melissa: make mm a believer. an average size asteroid could be worth a cool $30 billion at today's prices. one of the companies is planetary resources in bellevue washington. they built this tiny spacecraft 2 feet tall designed to land on an asteroid to take pictures of measurement. the goal is to identify the most suitable asteroids for mining. among investors, and microsoft to maker, james cameron, larry

page and ross perot junior. but there are many more believers the privatization of space. also started a company giving really rich people rise in space. even with all the private money the government will still have a role to play. >> it is important we have a partnership with the government in these endeavors. @his really is an investment in the future of united states and all of humanity. >> the ultimate goal is to use the water and minerals in asteroids to ffel future space expiration and one day colonization. think of it as living off the land. but there are real questions of who can stake claim to the land. >> the country they come from is responsible for what they do. some people say that means you caanot go out there and own anything.

>> for now the big-money dreamers are plowing ahead hoping to make serious money in about a decade. melissa: don't get me wrong, it swallows up the asteroid. it is fabulous, but how close is this to actually happening? >> it could be up in the heavens and about two years, 2015. the goal will be to figure out how to get that thing called back into the earth's atmosphere and then they say by 2012, 2022, 2023 they might start sucking off a valuable stuff off with a huge magnet and processing it into fuel 10 years from now. melissa: i can see the magnet pulling on it. i don't mean to make fun. i wish i was an original investor. good stuff the end it t could ba

sign of our celebrity soaked times. many like ashton kutcher, kim kardashian regularly send tweets to millions of followers about the things they like. is it real or is it pay for play? guidelines against deceptive ads, but could be looking at the end the practice. great to have you on the show. the regular people not understand when you see kim kardashian saying it mushy is being paid to do this. >> normally i mock anything kim kardashian is in, but the american public is not that stupid, they know that she is getting money for this. it is technically illegal. she has to put something in there.

assuming she knows how to spell again with. an audience that doesn't really care. they want to see what kim says. the brand is know this. are people saying she is using this, have to go out and buy it? there are enough who wants to be associated with it. melissa: they tried to get in contact with her, not the pr people. the hill on which so many brands die. marketing research that says lebron, people can tell you are not connecting with the person. >> she has 140 million followers. you would gladly pay her because they were working well you would get $8 million in sales. what is happening is she is

tweeting it, it is getting exposure maybe five, 600 people are retreatin retweeting her. companies are not relying on companies to move the needle in terms of millions of dollars. melissa: some estimate she may get $20 million. do you think it is true? >> it is totally true. i have 150,000 followers and i have upwards of five grand. i have not done it because my audience is a privilege, not a right so i will not spam them with garbage. but there is a market for the numbers. a lot of the brand market out there are blinded by the numbers.

they paid how much and got what? melissa: plus it is hard to quantify. other things you see like miley cyrus did this one. this is something to me it seems clear that she got paid to do this or got a discount. the company said she got consideration. >> samsung gave me a phone in the first thing i said was thank you so much for the gift and i said i really like this. i wrote about why i like it but if i hadn't liked it, i would have been honest about that. the brand is taking a gamble. melissa: interesting. some of them try to find celebrities were honest about something they actuaaly like.

using healthy models of many sizes. a great example for mankind and women. we think she was not compensated for this. there are lots of women out there who are not sample size women who have a lot of respect for her own and her fluctuating size. >> she has a whole back line of products with nutraceuticals and things like that. do not have any promotional tie-in, it is impressive. melissa: the bottom line, what works? >> what works is transparency and honesty. if the celebrity likes it there is nothing wrong to say samsung, motorola, thank you so much for the gift, love it. or take a picture of it. they're hoping whatever the product is how it will be shown in a photo and on a facebook post. melissa: i would say they got

paid for that. >> you go to the academy awards. they get to walk through a gift lounge and pick upwards of 50, $60,000 worth of stuff for free on the hopes these brands will be mentioned or on the red carpet. i would be willing to think the majority of celebrities writing about products are doing it for the consideeation or just the product itself as opposed to the money. kim kardashian for some reason she is probably getting paid. when i say consideration, getting the product in exchange. the majority are not getting cold hard cash. melissa: thank you. interesting stuff. ebay redefines windowshopping. they could be a break for the retail industry. up close and personal look at how it works. at the end of the day it is all

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entire card into your mobile phone. schedule one hour delivery on your mobile phone and pay when you get it. i can go in and have it right now, why would i do this? >> it is about the choice. you walk into yoga class, i love to have that. i want this now, the moment i am done, it is there and for you. melissa: is it about that or so much, vision in new york this is a way to get people over to your store? >> we are interested in redefining what it means to window shop. melissa: how much she had to sell to make this pay for itself? >> where thinking of this as a test, and amazing billboard, we're thinking about it as a way to try out new ideas.

it is really about the engagement. >> open the first presence in the united states. the first store is entire island of manhattan. you have mobile, warehouse logistics, mobile payments all under a single umbrella. this is the valued proposition to retailers. melissa: what makes you different from amazon? most important point is we don't ever compete with retailers. we're helping them adjust and evolve. however they want. melissa: i can tell you i see it, i wanted,,have to have it. you like it? it is very innovative and cool.

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ttanks to both of you. all right, first up, check this out, video obtained by "the new york post," of course, of a security worker asleep on the job. >> beeping the horn. the airplane taking off. hey, you. i've got you on camera, man. melissa: alllright, former manager for jfk says he regularly caught about six security guards sleeping on the job in 18 hour shift.

i'm glad i did not see it before hand. >> wasn't jfk the target of terror plots in the past benchmar? contacted by the port authority of new york. remember, we had to federal as airport security in order -- it was too important for the private sector to get involved. this shows you, when the public sector is involved with hiring these people, this is what happens. >> what i want to know -- >> i was going to say, with regard to the union thing, you know was fired, the whistle blower was fired. these guys weren't fired. it was the whistle blower. >> what i want to know is how our pay raises and bonuses, how they given pay raises and bonuses are any kind of step increases or any salary increase? melissa: your whole entire shift in the get a bonus.

that could be the way it works. i like the way he wakes up. >> finally. melissa: all right. we told you all about bit point, the virtual currency it basically cannot be tracked when so you hear this one. welcoming its very first bitcoin baby. a baby you was just born through fertility treatments paid fully in bitcoin. the doctor is one of the few and far between who accept bitcoin as payment at his practice and was so thrilled that he found a couple willing to pay debt he gave them 50 percent of. so many things i don't like about this story. i hate to say it, maybe this position. although the baby is fabulous. >> next for going to year about katie payne for funerals. from birth to death. the point is it is a currency. you may not like it and it may be under regulated. it may eventually be deemed

illegal. for now if it can be used for things like this you have to accept it is a currency. again, in whom do we trust? just in the federal reserve to print the right number of dollars or do we trust and private-sector alternatives? its a close bet. >> highlight of this guy has a sign of his door. he accepts visa, mastercard, and now bitcoin. melissa: a big sign on the front of his office? >> i know i believe this story. melissa: and also, the 50% discount is pretty funny. i guess it's very expensive. giving him 50 percent discounts. that is the price it? the bitcoin value goes up and down. depending on what day the baby was born it could've been a totally different price. >> the price of gold goes up and down. i caught like fokker 90 chemical is a currency. so there are alternatives.

my six gold coins which event for the past ten years. the full disclosure. that's illegal by have. melissa: now on to the "money" update. basketball superstar kobe bryant has reached an agreement over than trying to auction off his sports memorabilia. trying to sell almost half a million dollars of visible warnings, allegedly without his consent. they were headed to court, but would was all settled with a simple apology for his parents. as a resort -- result 90 percent of what has been auctioned off as the ball off the table. >> to a physical uniforms, two rings, championship rings for the l.a. lakers. apparently reports indicate that the parents needed the money to buy a house in las vegas. thaa is why they're doing it.@ that a foreigner and $50,000 advance. it's sad. now the parents are apologizing as well teeseven used to work wr

teresa. what would she have said? when physical things. we love "money." this show is called "money." sometimes you should not put things and money at a family. melissa: what would mother teresa say? >> de today a little miracles. that is out. her charity work. melissa: all right. on that note, this was a train worker who was angry that mail train conductors and drivers cannot wear shorts to work. evidently, their female counterparts are allowed to. now the guys are, to. what do you think? >> if i was out? ride from the get go. you well know it is my last day not only at fox business or fox news, but also in television when i come in with a killed.

someday i'll walk in with one. when you see me if you know. i do have one. my wife bought me one. melissa: i challenge you aware. >> the last time someone television. melissa: there you go. next summer going to see it. >> they gave me the shot. i think it's only fair. >> you know, you can't stop us from wearing skirts because it is discriminatory. at think it's pretty funny. melissa: it's absolutely discriminatory. real quick, the battle for most colorectal that sandwiches coming to a head. and on its recently released its bacon egg and cheese on a glazed doughnut sandwich. well, new creation, crispy cream sloppy joes. >> wait a minute. melissa: that's disgusting. >> where is the bacon and manas? >> i'm going to vomit. real quick. >> i think mayor blumberg, if

anything, this will be it. melissa: you will come in and out of them. you guys are fantastic. that's all the "money" we have today. next time he's wearing the kilt. here comes "the willis report." gerri: hello. tonight on "the willis report" the worst charities in america. he makes the list and why? also, the latest scam going around. the targets are parents and grandparents. the secrets of how the wealthy spend their money, live better, spend less. we are watching out for you tonight on "the willis report." ♪ gerri: our top story tonight, charities giving little or sometimes none of the money they raise to people in need. it sounds incredible, but acco