do not forget to db our the show. have a great night we will see you tomorrow. have a good evening. lou: good evening. thank you for being with us deal on the administration is sinking deeper into a bog a scandal now dealing with the former hamilton employee who worked for the national security agency who is leaking that he tipped off reporters to the government widespread systematic gathering and mining of data and video and voice records. the former employees is edwards know dan and he is what telling what the operation prism the british newspaper the guardian reported the nsa is

collecting telephone records of millions of americans. that is a story that broke back in 2006. but the next day june 6 the guardian and the west -- "washington post" reported a bigger story that the nsa and fbi tapping into nine major u.s. internet companies mining photos come e-mail's, videos to attract foreign nationals suspected terrorism those companies include google's, facebook, microsoft and apple and others. the very next day president obama said americans are not being listened to. >> nobody is listening to your telephone calls. that is not with this program is about. as was indicated what the intelligence community is doing is looking at the numbers, and duration of

calls. they're not looking at people's names and not looking at content. lou: the next day june 8 director of national intelligence james clapper revealed the government program for tapping into internet usage is authorized by congress and carried out with the knowledge of service providers he claims it cannot intentionally targeting u.s. citizen but edward snowden decided to reveal his identity and encouraging booh the guardian and the washington post to publish his name and background. sohu is edward snowden aad how did he get here? he did not graduate high school, edward snowden said he did study computers at a community college after he received a ged. after he enlisted in the army began a training program to join the special forces. he was discharged five months later after breaking

both legs in a training accident. he moved onto a job with the nsa as a security guard at what he described as a covert facility at the university of maryland. from there he moved to the cia to work on internet security. in 2007 they station tim with diplomatic cover in switzerland. his responsibility to maintain computer network security given clearance to access a variety of classified documents. in 2009 he left the cia to take a job with what he describes as a private contractor. that is signed into a functioning and as a facility at a military base in japan. this is where he taught -- tells the guardian he learned how consuming the surveillance activities were and then on june 9th come yesterday's press release from a consulting company contracted by thh federal government's stated goal max

that edward snowden, 29 has been an employee for less than three months assigned to a team in hawaii. his no criminal background he did donate $250 to the presidential campaign of ron paul and 2012 which leads us to the politics of the story the internet providers linked to operation prism where heavy donors to the reelection campaign and microsoft donated -- donated four times more than mayor romney and google 20 times more to -- obama and also hoping to run the data organization and apple and facebook and aol, a covington post and author whose strong supporters of the president but it is on with the department of justice opening a criminal investigation. edward snowden tells the guardian he was in hong kong

but could seek asylum in iceland and his whereabouts now are unknown catherine has our report. >> 29 year-old edward snowden says he is a leader in the reasons are noble. >> even if you're not doing anything wrong you're watching and recorded and the storage capability of these systems increases every year. you don't have to have done anything wrong. you just have to eventually fall under suspicion even by a wrong call and then they can use the system to go back in time to scrutinize every decision you have ever made. >> in a written interview the former cia employee and an essay contractor justify the leak saying obama is expanding the surveillance state. >> originally we saw that focus narrowly tailored as gathering evidence overseas but now increasingly it is

>> in the 12th and interest -- told an interviewer he never once said an individual case for an american citizen was wrongly targeted or investigated. >> you see things that may be disturbing but over the normal course of the career you it's a wonder to but when you see everything you see them on a frequent basis and you recognize some of these are abuses the week's compromise the source and then added. >> those al qaeda as is now know what we're doing what we have them place now make it difficult to get private companies to cooperate with us. >> the leadership of the senate house intelligence community is misrepresenting the facts especially on the nsa collection of web content. >> it is not targeted on americans it has to be a non-u.s. person that is believed to be on u.s. soil.

>> a covert program here is legal. and has been passed by the department of justice as a legal program. is carefully audited. >> a former attorney general under bush says it could be handled by a junior justice support -- department lawyer because edward snowden is implicating himself but we need to get to him before he leaks again and before beijing interrogates him. >> on chinese territory you do not bargain with the chinese. you give them what they want or accidents have been. they are not a sentimental about stuff like that. >> there is an extradition treaty with hongkong but there are exceptions for foreign policy and defense. although the treaty is not and tested on leaks for national security usually only used for drug cases are financial crimes. lou: fox news chief intelligence correspondent. on more if he should be

tried under the espionage act or if it violates the fourth amendment when used to spy and all americans without a warrant we are joined by the general he spent 26 years as an intelligence officer in the air force and a deputy training director at the nsa and thomas drake former nsa employee and whistle-blower who faced charges of violating the espionage act case that the eventually fell apart. thank you both for being here..3 i will start colonel, with you. this appears to be a leader described as a whistle-blower but what we do know right now he is a leaker. >> there is a lot going on with a unique aspect aig has revealed his own identity and to that makes it even more interesting from a

legal standpoint as well as the intelligence collection standpoint and from the cleanup standpoint. the intelligence community house do know what he has done and the damage he has caused to nsa or the other agencies that are potentially involve. lou: can you assess your best assessment of how much damage to nsa or the mission? >> it is potentially considerable because this is one of the parts of the nsa mission because we're focused so much on the cyber age of everything that goes on with the internet and the basic thing that has happened since the end of the cold war nsa has realized communication is not the big thing but cyber is and it becomes a huge deal with the collection apparatus.

lou: this case, does it strike you or resonate decent motivations or circumstances to your own case? >> yes. 12 years ago i was an eyewitness and discovered evidence that the higher levels to sever its own constitution willfully and deliberately in direct violation of the fourth amendment and fis of act. i knew i could not stand by to watch the subversion of my own constitutions wife decided to take action over a number of years so it is 12 years later of what was already started post 9/11 security. lou: ahead of the senate intelligence community to say it is perfectly legal and has been approved as

operation prison and operation -- the justice department has approved it and what do you think? >> the question is do we trust what the government says? we coull not trust them after 9/11 because there were in direct violation of the fourth amendment that had a criminal sanction so almost 12 years later do we still trust them? do you want the government to have this much information or the temptation even under what they have asserted are legal protections to go trolling and diving for other information? >> simply strolling and diving already we have heard , i want you to respond that they have stopped altogether terrorist attacks that otherwise would have taken place. where do you look for the balance their?

and could you complete your thoughts on that issue tom? >> there are any number of enabling acts starting with the patriot back that made legal that was illegal under the constitution of the fourth amendment. i do stand with the government is saying to protect the country but the question is how far you trade off liberty for security and that is a fundamental question. lou: you get the last word on that fundamental question >> the basic thing is we have to make fat balance in the modern age for i have never seen any willful violation of reconstitution or any laws we were sworn to uphold in the air force or the nsa there are exceptions and possibly but not in my personal experience and i have dealt with all of the people who are in senior positions in those agencies

and i can tell you that the one thing they do care about is the safety and security of americans who care about their liberty to make that the attainable goal. that is the way we look at these things. lou: thomas to become a whistle-blower over a program was internet surveillance and exploitation called trailblazer. some years later after charges were filed against him the department of defense inspector general pointed out he was right on the issue and he and others as well in that case. there are exceptions and an thomas appears to be among those. >> absolutely. lou: thank you very much. i hope you will come back as we explore it and understand better what is happening

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lou: there is no relief for the obama administration with the new scandal uncovered to date with documents reporting a

showing the state department tried to cover-up inappropriate behavior as some staffers call round of world from sexual assault to prostitution to operation of drug rings. fox news chief correspondent james rosen has our report. >> when secretary of state clinton traveled abroad to countries like russia some of the diplomatic security protecting her engage the3 services of prostitutes according to an october 2012 memo for within the state department of inspector general the memo stated clinton's security detail had a prostitution problem that was endemic. >> i will not speak to success -- specific cases but it is hardly endemic. >> the memo obtained by cbs news said the probe into the prostitution charges was shut down before all the

agents could be dealt with then came the prostitution scandal including secret service agents and that are aroused alarm with secretary clinton the october memo said rumor has it when the secretary acidy tell aid in charge of similar activities have happened within the secretaries detail the response was no and also claimed clinton chief of staff at intervene to halt an investigation with a diplomat in iraq that were funnelling data to a mistress, a reporter that this debate cases put on ice because of undue influence and the draft report from december 2012 using language scrub before said the team heard of instances where high-level department officials may have once or twice per year brought pressure to bear to influence investigations including allegations of serious criminal misconduct.

>> all cases were thoroughly investigated or are under investigation and the department continues to take action i did not mean to imply that the investigations were completed. that department would never condone any and do it influence on any report or investigation. >> the oig report contains allegations of u.s. ambassador still on the job in a european country who was said to have routinely left his protective detail to solicit sexual relations from prostitutes or minors. those are yet to be unverified but a spokesperson would not address that case specifically but said the notion that the department would overlook such criminal conduct is preposterous. lou: i wonder how she would characterize referring to the process not being completed she did not mean

to imply that but that rather than andy knight that an incident had occurred she simply said they would not condone them. i guess it is safe to say one would hope so. as always, thank you very much and new developments in the ira's scandal the top democrat in the house elisha cummings calling for an end to the irs investigation after he says a republican manager at the irs office in cincinnati came forward to say he played a key role in the decision to target conservative groups. >> based upon everything i have seen the case is solved. if it was me i would wrap it up and move on we have a new commissioner who is doing a great job that and i think we are in great shape and. lou: he has not been on the job of months but if he says so.

but congressman darr license says he strongly disagrees with his colleagues and in a statement says the remarks are extreme and reckless assertions that signals cummings has no genuine interest to expose the truth. the senate will begin procedural votes on the gang of a procedural biltmore afternoon it has the support of five senators including jeff blake, it john mccain , lindsay gramm and now the senator from alaska who teams up with just about anything and gramm or mccain deal with. doesn't have enough to pass the harry reid says he will vote on the 1,000 page bill before the senate leaves for the july 4th recess apple tries to show it is still ahead of the pack when it comes to technological innovation it announced a

digital radio service to rival pandora and laptops with a better battery life and update to the operating system for the math and mobile devices and the announcement came at the annual conference for software devellpment in san francisco and capital executives also previewing the next operating system that will be out in the fall when as part of a new california theme and mainly after naming it systems after big cats but pandora gained 2.5 on the news. on wall street does stocks finished flat but the dow is down nine points the s&p down a fraction and the nasdaq gained five points with volume on the big board and trading under 3 billion shares but booz allen hamilton stock falling 2.5% after an employee when edward snowden admitted he

leaked classified information that gold is selling at $1,386 per ounce but crude is dropping closing under $96 a barrel. and the bond market rises at just over 2% the highest since april of last year. now to the weekend box office for one of the cheapest movies ever made scored a huge upset. purge $13 million budget as a horror film a delightful result bringing in over 36 million for universal and "fast & furious" number 61 dropping in second place and we have great authors coming up talking about the book that chris kyle rote at the time of his tragic death and

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lou: 48 hours ago edward snowden was unknown now

millions are wondering how this 29 year-old high-school dropout to a former cia technical assistant and now a former employee of and is a defense contractor booz allen hamilton that minister of the government to look like fools, we still know the full story behind them but a symptom of big government dysfunction and federal governments showed nearly 5 million people right now have some sort of government security clearance more than the populations of chicago, boston, miami and washington d.c. combined and 1.4 million have top-secret clearance and more than one-third of those are contractors..3 with our laws restrict wiretapping with the actual content of conversations but the data gathering operations are so precise

they can still figure out your exact location moment to moment, have it, friendships, preferences as a consumer. through the recent explosion of big data because of smart phones, tablets, and americans generate enough data to fill 37,000 libraries of congress each and every year. in computer speak that is about 161 at exabytes every year. the data center in new talk to put in a comprehensible perspective it is five times larger than the capitol building and all the does is

sifted through big data we are told. that is what we are told. i stress that. there are checks and balances for example the foreign intelligence surveillance court is designed to review those for surveillance but of the more than common to keeping them perspective, 33,900 surveillance applications that the court has looked at from 1979 through 2012. are you ready? drumroll. , with the court has rejected exactly lou@loudobbs.com. -- 11 should he be praised or prosecuted? one how should we come to balance on an issue that is not resolved? americans should be thinking , thinking rather than pressing right now for answers that many people

have and of those who do do, they are not sharing. but we will be asking a lot of questions to figure out who is working for whom and and whose interest was edward snowden working when he made the decision of his life? >> the is and he gives the united states and upgrade. cantor fitzgerald john matthews and his take on the market and the economy. is the federal government really tracking every phone call reading e-mail to save all of our pictures and videos? the "a team" on the politics of massive 1984 style surveillance.

lou: joining us now is the "a team" wrong chris d., ed

rollins and mary ann marsh. the scandals don't stop. this is an awful mess. >> are they scandals were a series of stories? lou: misadventures, and happy circumstances unfolding before our very eyes. a government that seems to be utterly out of control from this president or if you wish to go to the other side, directing a government in a frightening way if this were a conscious purpose. >> each of these stories we have talked about could be very different several weeks from now including this one. 29 years old with a ged working for private company making $200,000 per year had

access to all this information now working for the government. lou: i was not ascribing that to a scandal for the white house quite yet. i was actually referring to the prostitution drug ring charges that apparently were brushed under the rug at the state department. that is a scandal i was referring to. >> i think that was handled correctly that they were under investigation secretary kerry is looking at them and i have no doubt they will be addressed effectively. lou: now would be terrific if that is what she said but that is not what she said. >> they are still being investigated laugh --. lou: okay. [laughter] now i will refer to this as the nsa. it is a blockbuster development that we have the head of the intelligence community like roger

feinstein saying this is legal and it is agreed to. the next top? >> the totalitarian state. what is legal is they have the ability to monitor of united states for place suspected terrorist activity did have the right to look at our e-mail, a subject line or searches. lou: the president says they are not. >> of course, we are the government to make sure we will protect you just trust us. i do not trust them at all. >> my issue is how is a guy working for three months with a ged a matter how smart he is get access if this is the nsa it is absurd they don't know who their own people are or what they might be doing. lou: we need to be clear he was not working directly for the nsa but booze allen hamilton.

>> but everybody is a consultant now to have a top-secret clearance and somewhere you look at the document and you basically see what is the resonate will he be let in here with all of the top secrets? i fired a very high profile ambassador when i was in the warehouse. linked with prostitutes. i will not mention his name i said is this true and if it is and what your resignation right now. he resigned. that is how you do it. not spending three months to investigate. lou: questions arise who is edward snowden working for? it is a peculiar manner that an employee of three months decides he wants to drive headlines around the world. truly it is a head scratcher >> there are two problems one we have outsourced so

much of the national security through technology and the explosion of military security and this is what happens. millions of people with security clearance and any one of them taking come down like a house of cards. >> you could argue that today's summit meeting with the chinese president in california and cyber attacks were supposed to be the focus and what blew up? the cyber initiatives of one of the government's critical intelligence agencies. is that an accident? >> but it was addressed and china and the united states need to understand china is attacking as we have to protect national security it

shows how vulnerable everybody is. >> we already knew we were vulnerable but the fact this summit was wiped off of every newspaper by the leak one of the greatest threats we face is the hacking going on by the chinese government. this president fails to address that because of the scandals in his own administration of his own security apparatus. >> millions of dollars spent on intelligence and we let some guy come in off the street. lou: and to what degree despite warning fter warning have we permitted the chinese government to do hacked into our systems and establishment to play a part in all of this. we will find out. >> we will.

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the ceo of cantor fitzgerald. hand very well and you are in challenging times. let's get to the upgrade how significant is it brad. >> virtually insignificant if you look at the marketplace there really was not an issue we're an interesting times people are more concerned about where the market is headed headed, volatility and certainly from the investor's standpoint it is treacherous right now if. >> ever i turn somebody was talking about the market correction. the week was young but then we had a 200 point* pop what we have in the equities market? >> it is on good footing from the relative value basis to put their money somewhere. they're always looking at a time to have the dip and

equity and you're starting to see that play out every day so from the relative value basis that equimark it is in good shape and. lou: i thought when tenneco said stocks were dead i that that was some type of sign simic the fixed income market is in challenging times with the tenure back up at 220 but it is a 50 basis points and at low the interest rate set environments everyone tries to figure out to head to the portfolio going through an issue because everyone is afraid the programs would end this -- programs of and and then went head to the position correctly. lou: and then the st. louis fed bank president saying we

will bring down the bond purchases by 10 or 20 billion per month. that is enough to get your attention? >> absolutely. look at the st. in general with great stores of assets because they ad enough capital to be great middle men as a bigger market place there is less money acting as the intermediary causing volatility to rise and fall based on what is going on. >> great to see you. coming up tomorrow the gang of eight immigration bill with the two leading voices secretary of state and the executive director of long our guest. up next we will talk with william doyle about a

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lou: at the time of chris kyle's tragic death of february we were finishing up the book with guns, american and sniper at a runaway best seller. with a unique american fire

are shaped the history of this country tooreveal how innovation and industrial genius pushed history and power and here on behalf of chris kyle is william doyle. good to have you with us. >> it is good to be here on behalf of chris kyle. lou: and never trust me to have a copy of the book we have doing copies and we recommend it to you. it is fascinating that you took his idea 10 guns for weapons if you prefer that are remarkable the repeater repeater, the colt 45, the peacemaker the stuff we groupon as kids,,the winchester rifle, the 94 or any number of these that are terrific parts of american western history. tell us about the relations between guns and america and

broadly. >> chris i thought there was an amazing series of stories to be told how benson shaped american history. they have the matter where you are in the political spectrum about grade american history. he thought it is important to know for example, abraham lincoln was a gun buff and technology geek he had a shooting range of his own behind the white house to go back there to fire off rounds to test new gun technologies one day he was shooting and the police came by because there was a role at the time they started to curse at him and grabbed the gun from him and the witness described abraham lincoln and quayle himself higher and higher and presented himself then they realized that is old aid himself and they ran away and he said

there might have stuck around to see the shooting. the gun buffett is interesting and teddy roosevelt helped to have the rifle that our troops are still using a version of around the world today and john kennedy was designing the m-16. >> also the f-14 and tte rifle the vague magnificat -- a magnificent part of the history. >> it saved the world because my father and so many members of the greatest generation had begun by their side from combat zones and that was better than the japanese version and better than the german standard shoulder rifle that counts for history and saving

american lives and that is the interplay between technology to move our history for word to put food on the table, expanding the country, we know about the crimes quite well but we have forgotten the connection does have to the military history and our freedom. lou: absolutely the guns that won the west we're talking about the spencer and the winchester repeating arms and it is a terrific idea but brilliantly executed in to have another big winner on your hands i am sure chris kyle would be thrilled with the results. thank you. the book is american done on sale now online or in bookstores. go to lou dobbs.com get the book is worth your time and the trip.

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neil: the pile on is on the agenda is off. welcome, everybody. i am neil cavuto. you know, things are bad when democrats call ffr hearings into the nsa mess but that is what john conyers wind and the sooner the better trying to have congress get to the bottom of this phone tracking thing and they're not alone no less than a director ben and mark udall are concerned but listen to what he told reporters on this whole dustup the administration and have people comment on what authority it thinks it has but