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there's a land of restful sleep, we can help you tre, on the wings of lunesta. neil: obama administration is now getting sued by no less than aclu the same aclu that went after president bush for the wiretaps. they are getting hotter, but instead i want you to watch out for a cold war because of this is getting colder. welcome i am neil cavuto, we think, nsa leaker snowden, somewhere in hong kong, i assume we have already asked the chinese to hand him over, but ed is still not here, that can only lead me to believe, ed is still over there, and that leads me to believe in the chinese are just as interested in talking to ed as we are, and guess what.
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the russians want to talk to ed, and putin is considering asylum for ed. the americanize version of gerald depardieu. like ed, sick of snooping bureaucrats in america that even russia looks good, by comparison. that puts a chill on our relationships with these countries. we have an american who spied, but said he did not spy. there are countries that want to know more about that stuff, our stuff. are you feeling stuffed? i am, this is how cold wars start. whether an an american pilot shot down or hapless high school
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drop out with a lot of secret to tell. amazing we have gone from a series of domestic scandals to one officially an international crisis. can't think things can get worse? i think they did. don't you think it worries bush 41, former deputy under secretary defense jed -- this is out of control. >> well, it's kind of fun in a way, a very active cold war going on with the chinese with cyber espionage. it is obvious it is going on, they are in position of mr. snowden, maybe. and vic vladimir putin old habis die hard, he grew up in the kgb, he wants to make trouble. why not stick his nose in.
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why not make snowden think he is more than he really. is the snowed know guy is a punch, he has grandios ideas of hihimself, she nnt that importa. neil: you are not in the camp that think he is you know, free speech hero? >> no. he is a punk, a loser, he quit college, quit the army, you know you start quitting it is a nasty habit. and you know he has the idea, he will make this big splash. i don't know maybe he is angling for a book contract, maybe michael moore will publish a book for him. neil: he went to hodge continental immediately -- hodge konhongkong immediately after lg it did he think that chinese would welcome him with open arms without wondering that maybe they are going to open something else? >> well, we don't know. he may be that naive. and if he is, well, more the pit tpity to him.
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neil: what do you think chinese are doing with him. we have not seen hide or hair of him in last 24 hours. reportedly. what do you think they are doing. >> i don't know. neil: what do you suspect, you are pretty good at this. >> thank you. but if i were in their shoes i all have him in a very isolated location, i would not be waterboarding him but i do everything else short of that, if he does not know more, which is probable, they would throw him aside like a used rag. neil: meantime vic vladimir putn the picture, what good is it for the russians then? >> the russians would as chinese would, try to make it useful to other people, we're talking about information that is traceable to terrorists, and terrorist cells and towers and nations such as iran, i would
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think that you know, you have a little race to get mr. snowden in hand, and to get what else he knows to sell it to the iranians or give it to them. to make sure they really felt better about the russians or the chinese that is what i would do. neil: here is what really worries me, i hope i am wrong. i hope this does not happen, those roars that snowden -- records that snowed know retrieved showing 115 million downloads of verizon phone calls, and god knows what else from customers that chinese have it russians potentially could. >> i think that is quite likely. we just don't know. i don't know the volume of information these got, i would suspect strongly he is not running around with you know drink -- disk drives full of information from the verizon customers that could be more than he could handle. neil: well, she not an idiot.
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>> no. but he is probably very naive, he has a exaggerated opinion of himself, and trying to make a big splash. ly isleahy don't -- he is makia big splash. neil: interesting. is he or for modern day youtube pilot in. >> i don't think so. gary powers of a hero, this guy is a thief, he stole this information he is leaking out. >> you are not buying he did this for the good of america, stuff. >> no, not for a minute. he did it for the good of himself. neil: don't gray out on us, don't give us luke warm reasoning, thank you. neil: jed babbin thank you. >> and now france gets in the act, before you feel glad it is not vlad, remember roman polanski.
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the american film director arrested for raping a 13-year-old girl, then pleading guilty to charges of unlawful sex is a minor, he fled to europe, and settled to france. former l.a. district attorney steve cooley, is joining us now, exclusively, of all of the options france would be the least, advantageous for us, given what you had to go through, right? >> not necessarily, the polanski case, and snowden are two different cases, polanski was a celebrity based upon his talents, his crimes were of a common variety, sexually assaulting a minor applying her with drug -- flying her with drugs, and possession of drugs, what snowden has done is a larger scale potentially in
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terms of the potential threat to our country, and security interest in the world, and the cia, it is a high profile case, yes. but i don't think you can compare one to the other. >> here is will i make a comparison if you will indulge me, they are both celebrities the world has now attached itself to this guy, snowden, as some sort of a you know privacy rights hero. we don't know why he did what he did. it might not be so heroic. but for the time being, they welcome him as a hero of free speech. >> you are right. you are right, that is a dynamic in this particular situation, whether it be in contact of extradition or deportation, snowden will have a following, an international following, there will be some political aspect to this there will be campaigns just as there were campaigns if among hollywood
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people for us not po to pursue poland ski, theying or -- polanski, theyin organized -- >> really, steve, i find that incredible. whatever you think of his talents even at the time, this was about raping a 13-year-old girl. >> you had movie stars like whoopie goldberg coming out in his defense. saying well, it's not really a rape, rape, that is her quote. it was not until a local "l.a. times" columnist, steve lopez released details contains grand jury transcript that the whole movement was put down, they were putting pressure on my offers, and myself, to let it g lets polanski go, i think you will see some support for snowden among those who believe he has
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done something heroic. we don't know what he has done yet or how much harm he may have caused our nation's security, he may very well be a trader. >> you are right, but now the question is, the countries that have -- let's say china, and russia. and france that wants him, not a given we could extra diet him, i understand there are standing laws that allow this sort of thing. agreement we have with likes of hodge kong, that does not mean the chinese have to honor them. i am sure we have requested him, what do you make? >> first question to ask, where is he. who is the -- >> where do you think he is in. >> i have no idea. but wherever he is, will dictate what will happen, if it is say friend or a foe that makes a big difference, but is there extradition treaty. some nations, we have diplomatic
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relations and an extradition treaty, others we have diplomatic relations but no extradition treaty, and others with no dip lettic relations at all -- diplomatic relations at all, where he ends up, will dictate the future of what happens. you will have an overlay of some people promoting him as a hero to be admired, and depending on the country where he lands, they may very well be empathetic. you mentioned russia, communist countries or middle east were countries, there will be a serious debriefing. and not necessarily in the best interest of the u.s. of america. neil: or more mr. snowden who might regret what he was hoping and wishing for. >> true. neil: steve cooley thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: tuesday, there must be
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neil: all this time i thought that belgians like chocolate, but not everything that comes out of there is sweet. ambassador of belgium, and former secretary of state hillary clinton -- lawyer representing the first person who blue the wis ol old this the ambassador involved those at department say there is nothing weird or wrong going on here. but, it now out of control. what have you learned, what does your whistle blow are discovered?
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>> you know, on the inspection team, it circron make government says that. they looked into this, there is nothing to it, the government's inspection team charged with inspecting diplomatic security in this case. actually had findings and conclusions and recommendations that are contrary. that is the government's inspection, those cases were some of the cases that were found, and undue influingoing on -- inthroughencence influence. neil: what does your whistle-blower say was going on. >> in diplomatic security in state department, that would influence investigation into for example, special investigation division, investigations of criminal nature to employees, and disciplinary roceedings and
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other investigations by law enforcement officials, have you political appointees interferes with law enforcement investigations. corruption. neil: to what end? what were they doing that would get to this level of offense? >> in some instances they would halt investigations, in others, there is instances in the information that they would overly pursue some people. so, there was an undue influence from senior ranks officials above division of the invvstigators, including political apointsies that were -appointees that were interfere. neil: there was a sexual scandal going on and higher ups were trying to cover their tracks essentially? >> it was discovered they were trying to cover their tracks and
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then there is cover-up of the cover-up, which is office -- >> how close did that go to hillary clinton's office? >> well ther there is indicatiot was pretty close. neil: what is pretty close. >> indications that people within that office were interfering with investigations, that was the finding of the inspection team that was sent up to office of investigator general. those findings and these conclusions were removed from the report, essentially undue influence, gross amount of government misconduct was uncovered and removed from the report, and removed from report its to congress. neil: that sounds like white washing of the benghazi reports that everyone was in agreement on the talking points, i know it is night and day, two different issues, but that brings to light, the possibility that higher ups at state department,
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do sort of white wash what we're told. >> there is no doubt, there is very close similarities to what was going on in some of the other cases. i have no personal knowledge, i don't represent anybody in those instances, but this the case of -- the office of investigator general charged and mandated reporting information to congress. they report to congress, they are supposed to be an independent watch dog if that independent watchdog is unduly influences, and information is not getting to challenge that is ting to congress that citizen problem, my client came forward, she does not get a prize for this she did this because report came out in march, and it done contain all of the very serious findings of government misconduct. neil: does that include on this belgium, ambassador, same thing
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caught up in the same type of report just, irregularities. >> yes. yes. >> it sounds like a sodom and gomorrah shop of anything goes? >> it does, and you know, it is our feeling that whether there is public corruption uncoveeed and the inspection team, the government inspection team, the government's findings, are there is undue influence it should have been reported to the proper authorities. i don't know that oig investigators, i don't think -- i don't know they have jurisdiction over public corruption, essentially, what you have is the senior officials in department of state, now coming forward and saying, we have investigated ourselves, we did nothing wrong. neil: they wonder why we get cynical, gary thank you so much. >> i appreciate it. neil: i can't keep up with the
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neil: a near tril lion dollar farm bill, no way to pay for it little matter to a democratic senate that keeps pushing it. the same senate with same measure barely trims food stamps spending at all, makes you wonder how and why this scandal of spending behavior continues. to our guests, jedediah what happened here? i thought it would get side tracked.
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>> 17 trillion-dollars in debt, we didn't just get here by someone snapping their fingers, we got about their by this, spending out of control. the house passed a bill, came up with something that does not touch food stamps it touches it by 3%, higher than senate. but still if you look at foodd@ stamps and amount of money we're spending 1 in 7 people on food stamps, idea that senate would look to cut half a percent it makes me want to laugh. neil: in the end, whatever allowances, tony as they are -- tiny as they are, with all these scandals going on, this is one thing i thought we would not have to worry about not the case. >> hard to touch mandatory spending, like food stamps, you look from years 2008 to 2012, there was an increase in program, 60%. and this gets real problem which
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is too often in government, they look at number, amount they are %-outcome, people will assume, this must be greaa program, we're spending a lot, instead of saying, why in the world are so many people still on food stamps, what can we do to get them a job, and supports themselves??@ neil: what part of almost a trillion dollars do they want understand, that is what worries me. >> it could have been worse, that is only thing you could say. the problem with these bills there is something february both sides -- something for both sides, that is why they get through, who doesn't like farmers and poor people? this is the bottom line, we have to ensure farrers -- insure farmers, and then, you know poor situation, i understand how the roles grow during a recession, but we're not in a recession did any more. they never go back to
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prerecession levels, both sides like the spending, it gets you votes, a lot of votes, a lot of money to your office, these are ones that get most approval. neil: this is one of most run away spending programs of all, food stamps, 1 out of 7 or close to 1 sut of 6 ar -- 1 out of 6 e getting these, the genuinely poor deserve this, we're all for helping them, but if we're at that point, where that is the case, we're as hird world as you can get. >> true, and the farm bills that usually goes to large commercial farms, that down need the money, this was instituted to help the small farms that were struggling, these farmers, are not struggling average farmer overs there are si$80,000 a yeas are funds something they should not fund, we don't have the money for this no one in washington wants to hear two simple words, we're broke.
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we don't have the money. neil: we keep doing this, why? i was surprised -- i could see slipping in a $50 billion item, in these days it is like a rounding error. that would slip through. >> it goes back to 80% of this bill, is food stamps. and we don't see the momentum in congress to touch many of the mandatory spending programs, such as social security. neil: we never will. >> we will have to at some point. neil: i hear you. >> they cannot continue on. neil: you are a lot younger than me, you are those who should worry, i think ill just skate by -- i think i'll just skate by, here is great news, small business guys are feeling bett better. but not so grade news, not all business guys, it makes you wonder who is polling, because none of this is computing. we lened a t of us have known someone
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neil: small biz or just big lies. some saying their struggling colleagues are not struggling so much these days, they are more optimistic than they have been in a long time, let's say, my guys are not buying what they are hearing from those guys, my guests today. thank you. in sweet and good foodstuff, they are thin and fit. i don't know why have you them on. but let's gets you know your
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take on this david. according to this, things are looking up, they are feeling up, why not you? >> i just -- came through our what is our busiest two weeks of the year from a decorator cake standpoint with graduation, and school stuff, and it was like our easter, it of flat. -- it was flat, i don't see it, at least in midwest, we came through two months of highest gas prices we've seen in years, i was talking with a buddy yesterday, a carpenter, they just got a dollar raisi raise, increase, sucked up by while and welfare, they keep preaching about dispose able income stuff, we'll be at ground zero in 4 to 6 years, that is what we see in the world they live it. neil: joseph, do you see the same? >> first of all, good afterroon,
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from a sweet place to do business, reno, nevada, i am seeing, in our business is that the mom and pops are wholesale -- our wholesale customers have slowed up in this last quarter. i don't understand, you know kimi candy has done increase business but as primarily been exports, so, what my concern is our organic growth is growth we receive from the mom a our main street in the united states, and i have seen that a little bit flat here in the last two months. neil: you know, they are say, dave maybe you can respond, a lot saying they are optimistic of better days ahead, if might prove misplaced optimism , what do you say? >> i think they are trying to talk people who a good mood, we're feeling fica cuts and health care costs coming up, buddy, you see, i don't care what you say, people that used
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to buy's car every 3 year, now buy it 10, what are they going to do get in a good mood, and buy one every 7 years, we're never going to see this come back. our company, we have had to reinvent ourselves, we were never in wholesale, we had to go to grocery stores, and use your names, 50 years of a quality name. but the employees that i need to do that business and make that product, that is not the high paid employee thaty used to higher, they are -- hire, they are part time people, lower skilled people, low wage people, this is a watch 22 why this economy is recovering at the snail pace it is, i think these economists live in the same bubble or drink the same kool aid. neil: they don't eat candy or eat bakery products. joe, you think that maybe we're
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splurging. but not on some stuff you would think they would spurge on, like your stuff, you know makery stuff, candy, that stuff. >> well, you know, i think we're in -- an affordable treat, a lot of us -- still, small businesses are going through credit currents, i don't care what they say with regard to stock market looking great, that is a disconnect. you look at world economy, and in asia and europe, those economies are in a lot of hurt, they affect us. i subject that, you know the little guys that are still here, and in states that have not gone offshore, they are struggling. credit is a problem, even for me to go to the bank, and you know, equit that's i had in my -- equity that i had in my home and building in last 5 years has been to nothing, they talk about housing prices coming back up, that is great, that is everyone's equity.
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we have not gotten to where we bought them in 2006 range. neil: the same there in st. louis. >> oh, yeah. taxes have gone up on real estate but value of property has gone down 25%. neil: hang in there thank you very much. we thought we would bounce it off you, did not jive with you either. >> i wish the news was better. neil: we'll keep watching hang in there do you remember -- well this woman? she actually pays to look like this. that is the good news, but now she has to pay more to keep looking like this scandal that will really burn you, or at least her. >> i can -- you know once -- three or four times a week, it is my relaxation.
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to tan, i don't care what anyone else has to say. neil: has the taxman got no shame, going after the tan lady. she will have to pay more for that just-crispy look. our blitz, not only leathery folks who are in a fix. gary, you feeling burnt? >> you know just amazing to watch, the taxers, do this it rarely, and realized we're -- temporarily, and realized they or to something, 28 million people go into a tanning booth every year, where there is money they will get it, this is just a smitslither of the taxers. neil: they are not getting 160 million off this? that is an hour worth of government spending. >> a good way to dictate social
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policy, let government decide some activities are good, if we tax tanning places let's put a tax on top of taxes onal h alco, more taxes on working out on a treadmil, it might give you a heart attack. the story their is something else going on. i thought it took congress legislate our to make a tax, i don't think that irs has its own ability to lei any -- lay any tax it want, you look at john boehner, do you not think this is irs targets conservatives, he is the most tan member of congress. neil: maybe it is natural all in the sun. >> they are targets tanned conservatives. >> whatever happened to the sun, i don't get it, i don't know why people do to those booths anyhow. neil: issue two.
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5,000-dollar rebates if you buy a which ofy volt. >> this so a chevy volt. >> this on top of a tax credit. you will have to start paying me cash to take the car. neil: take the car off our hand. >> did gm-chrysler ever really want to sell the volt, they introduced volt at the time of bailout, and president obama said we need more green energy cars,. neil: are making money at this, tesla is making money. very high-end, and pricey. your kind of price i car, gary. but what do you make? >> well, a very sympal supply and demand, expecting were between 60 and 100,000 cars sold this year, they have been 7,000 this year. so they have to try to move t and fact is they cannot move it with a 7500 rebate, they have to add 5,000, i don't think it will work. and interesting note, cost gm
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75,000 to make one of these cars, they can't sell them for 30, there is another agenda out there as far as making them. >> will they be allowed to kill it like you kill any own popular products or are they not to because it is politically incorrect. >> pure economics said they should kill it now, but it is not going to happen, not pc . neil: pure economics condition a long time ago -- went a long time ago. >> so did sony just put microsoft in a box? exbox. >> a huge change. when playstation 2 came out, then microsoft xbox killed it because microsoft product costs $ 250, and playstation cost $600, now next xbox, it is 600 -- more 550 500 bucks outcomes y
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with 400. neil: you could also argue that people will pay for system they deem cool no matter the price, or no? >> well, that is a fact but there are two words, that is price sensitivity. and microsoft is basically tempting fate right noo, good news from microsoft, is people love what they sell, they love their games, they have a connext connect thing, it will be interesting going forward on who wins this one. neil: do you think that microsoft lowers its price? >> i think they will have to. sony playstation 4, backward come at tha patible -- compatii have playstation three games
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that i can use on the new playstation. neil: on many levels you worry me, thank you very much. speaking of games, what may be the next call of duty, wait until you hear from the guy who said that president is not doing his duty. not performing his duties, he said the ceo of united states, hanging it up today. [ male announcer ] you're traveling tonight, closing the deal, or just having fun tonight. you want a hotel room at an amazing price. tonight. impossible? not anymore. dowownload the free hotel tonht app to ok rooms in over 85 cities around the wod. when we get rooms that would otherwise go empty, you get the best rates, guaranteed. so with thretaps and a swipe, you can book a great room for a great price. download hotel tonight free tn sign up with promo code "deal" for $25 off your first booking.
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worried. what is your beef with president in his crucial role. >> american public by 55% has lost confidence in all of government because of the irs, and other scandals, and the president is not taking -wnership of the problem, he has to step forward, say these are my problem, he set the wrong tone, he is alibiing and trying to shift blame, that is not what a good ceo does. neil: a good ceo has to wait until all of the facts are in. giving the presidenn the benefit of the do yo doubt, he us know t happened. but does that not bring into another issue, you don't know what is going on. >> he travels too much, he is out of the office, he does not too meet with his executives frequently enough, and the irs take their cues from the boss, can you find anybody from top
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echelon in irs that takes responsible, no i can not. >> what is the culture of this administration, you have reminded my, everything bleeds from the ceo on down. what is the mind think of the dna of this adminnstration, it is taking cues from a president who my not be telling them to spy on good conservatives or go after reporters, but they are providing an atmosphere where it is okay. >> look at his own conduct, he slipped healthcare through the senate, you know it is slight of hand, at irs, they watched president, behaving in a political fashion, lied about mr. romney, said things that were not true. and you know, so now, they do
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now at irs? they are conservative, we target those people that will make the boss happy, they had a nice conduit, a union president meeting with the president, putting her money in resources as a union president, into democratic candidates and attackings tea party, so they do their own thing, they use their own initiative to attack the tea party. neil: normally when a leader is under duress it not good for the country. it rattles markets briefly, as it did with watergate hearings, from nixon, and impeachment hearing of bill clinton, they don't like this leadership increases thing. but that is what we have. what ensues now? >> well he is in a lot of trouble because democrats are abandoning him, american public are his stockholders, they lost
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confidence in his stuard ship -- stewardship, they don't like the management. his board of directors, democratic leaders on the hill, he does not have as many as he thinks he should. now "new york times" attacking him, on the fox web site, long side our be on ed, a rendition on how "new york times" lost confidence in the president, this is what happens when do you not take ownership for the mistakes of your subordinates, he does not put running the government first, everything is political, he treats this political issue when it is a management problem. neil: very well put, peter if thank you. >> take care. neil: one fired, 1.4 million to go. 1.4 million americans have top-secret clearance.
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neil: what if i told you, more people in the u.s. have secret clearance than the people of montana. i'm the surprised i don't have top-secret clearance, or maybe i do. jedediah is back with us, how big a crise it is. that is a big number. >> i can announce, i do not have clearance, i have been denied. neil: what do you think of that? a lot of people. >> i think in a post 1999 world there is -- 9/11 world there is a more rush to data, a fear of
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ensuing terrorist attack or tragedy to prevent, i think made it ease year for people to get in the system, we have an over stuffed bureaucracy in the government, that does not help matter, but everyone was trying to figure out if the leaker was a hero or trader, i was thinking, how did he have access to the information with a very thin resume, a private company for three months, how many of this guy are there out there? that could potentially jeopardize national security or you know, cause some sort of damage by virtue of the information he is holding in his hand, that worries me. neil: what worries me, is how easy this is to happen. when you run a division or a bureau at an agency, say i request phone records that goes through a chain of command, each one of those sets of eyeballs are looking at this stuff along the way, for all i know there is
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a secretary doing one last check, each are privy to something maybe hey they should not be. >> there is no question 1.4 million is a lot of people. you know i can't tell you if that is appropriate number, but i can tell you, is thatting in to having top-secret clearance, you are not is up the olded to get -- supposed to get the information unless you need it for your job. neil: but boss handing it out, put it in a folder, i am being simplistic here. it will know downloaded, you are the big cheese, so, someone is going to do that for you. >> well, i mean, i think the scandals and may 2000 scandal with fellow from army released that information, that diplomatic -- >> sure. >> it does bridge that in to question -- bring thht into question. but you know top-secret clearance there are a lot of people that have it we have to
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do better job making sure that leakers do not leak secure information. neil: there is more out there, jonus, than before. and high-tech agency groups and power houses that have this at their disposal, this that could stumble into the wrong hand. >> and other millions of people who work for the companies and have this data. there are tens of millions of people who have access to what you consider security data about yourself. and to your point, you raised, not that government was collecting it for checking to see ho is calling -- to see who is calling, it is once you database it, it is gone, whether it is leaked out by people who work, handling it, it will get hacked away. bottom line circumstance if it has a power button today, it is
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not private. neil: i tell you, what comes into focus is how easy it is to go. if that information is out there it is gettable. and it is reach able, it is download able. boom. >> and yeah. like privacy is dead. i've been saying that for a long time, but there has to be a way to better screen these people. or at least make the system more efficient. people with less access, those is more access. and there has to be a way to do this better for private companies. neil: maybe, the young people who know this so well. >> well, true they are tech-savvy. neil: computer wiz kids here at fox, i can't turn my computer on. but before i know it, they 64 my tax files, i don't know -- they are into my tax files, and i don't know how this happened. >> that is the able we're in
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now. neil: this guy, this 29-year-old, it u.s. is not surprise us. you they are gouge guys, they can do -- they are young guys they can access the stuff, then you realize, i'm stuck. >> they're computer wiz, in this case he did not graduate college, those are those you to have watch out for. the people -- >> i don't know about, that. he made up for it in a lot of the different ways, but i will say up the chain of command, he kept going, something in his skill or skill set, look at this kid in new york, what was it yahoo! bought out his company, and he is worth a half trillion dollars right now. i am wondering, i know these guy all geniuses or they are close, but they understand this stuff, they understand how to do circles around you. who else has that information, that is my fear? >> way more people than you know, including these companies.
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this was already outsources because -- if the government did this, wond the couldn't thhy do. couldn't they have messed it up more than this. neil: they didn't have to just order it and give it to us. >> government can't do this better without private sector, it the get let loose whether it is leaked or not that is nature of data on-line, and databases, almost 100% never securing, every company gets hacked. >> i think this rome had mainframes in the final days. >> i don't think it is government versus private sector, this is where we're headed. we have to be prepared for it. privacy does not exist, for almost any of us, and not for high security. neil: that is you kids! you are destroying us. when i was your age! >> get off my lawn!
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neil: get off my lawn! thank you, we'll keep watching this, everyone knows what you are up, to just tell us. u will see becr tomorrow. gerri: hello, everybody. [laughter] lawmakers try to tackle sextin and driving. have access to your phone without aarrant. so ameri's wst charity. you will show you not to get scan in your medical privacy at risk. just how easy is it to happen to your medical records tonight we will do it. >> he is the patient records. gerri: that's my ne. gerri: you're watching out for you on "the willis report."
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