thank you for being with us. president obama has decided that now is the time to provide arms to syria and rebels looking to al's president's assad. we have not heard about this decision directly from the president, however. rather from national security staff and the white house, nor have we heard from the defense secretary or the secretary of state. apparently the president has decided to send small arms, ammunition, and, perhaps anti-tank weaponry to the level of -- rebels. the white house issued a statement declaring the syria has used chemical weapons of the past year and claimed 100 to 150 syrian rebels were killed.

syria denies the claims, and so does russia. the president was briefed by junior white house national security and communications staff on the shift in policy and what it would entail. a briefing creating as many questions as answers. deputy national security adviser for strategic communications then rose joined principall3 deputy press secretary to brief the white house press corps on the president's shift. roads world of the united states troops on the ground, but then went on to say that the administration is not ruling anything out. listen to this. >> the one option that was basically taken off of the table is boots on the ground. for a variety of reasons, we don't at this point believe that the u.s. has and national interest in pursuing a very intense open-ended military engagements. the no-fly zone at this juncture, but again, we -- you know, we are not ruling out contingencies.

we are weighing them in a very deliberate fashion. lou: he did say that we should expect to year from the president on the shift in the coming days. while giving no indication at all as to when that actually might be. all of this is a precursor to the president's meeting with president vladimir sunday. already protested the white house decision to arm the syrian opposition fighters, many of whom are extremists with loyalties to terrorists. the criminals are also unconvinced by the administration's claim that the assad regime has used chemical weapons but did note that the president putin has not yet discussed plans to arm the regime with air to fit -- air defense missiles. raising the possibility of more national security leaks. former in as a contractor edward snowden in hiding and pretend -- presumed to be still in hong kong. the intelligence officials have

reportedly determined what classified sites he accessed, what information he down loaded, and how it. those same officials said they do not believe that he had any accomplices nor that he tried in any way to sell the material that he accessed. fox news chief intelligence correspondent has our report. >> after meeting with european ministers, attorney general eric holder said the public disclosure of classified nsa programs has done significant harm. the national security of the united states has been damaged by those leaks. the safety of the american peopll and safety of people in allied nations is at risk. a source familiar with the scope of the investigation tells fox news an audit of the computer of edward snowden inside the nsa and other government networks is ongoing. based upon his electronic trail it is believed edward snowden has more documents beyond a handful leaked to the british his paper and washington post.

>> i have access to the full auspice of everyone working at the nsa, the entire intelligence community endeavor cover assets of around the world. >> the threat that he could lead more classified information is seen as credible. democratic senators are now introducing legislation that would limit data collection on americans where there is no demonstrable link to terrorism or espionage. the disclosures of the last week made clear to the american people that the law is being interpreted in a way that damages the civil liberties and that the system has been set up to keep americans unaware of the intrusion. with growing scrutiny of government data bases, there are new questions about the program publicly described by fbi director robert muller which allows for the collection of the milk from a u.s. citizen on u.s. soil in real time. the shooting in 2009, the fbi director testified that e-mail exchanges like those between alleged shooter in fort hood nd

unknown terrorists overseas were not going to slip through the cracks again. >> what can you tell us about new procedures that are in place that will head off another fort hood in the future? >> put into place technological improvements relating to the capabilities of the database to uphold and pull together past e-mails and future ones as they come in so that it does not require an individualized search >> as to the database being part of four separate from the nsa prison program which collect -- collects foreign internet communications, that nsa referred to the fbi where there was no immediate comment. meanwhile the british government is warning airlines around the world to keep edward snowden out of their country. the travel the says any airline that brings him into the u.k. will be fined $30,100. lou: thank you so much.

>> i don't know what that will do, but anyway. lou: it's not getting any less complicated and there. thank you very much. you're terrific as always. chief intelligence correspondent well, as this week controversy is unfolding, there is great concern about the relationship between the intelligence services, the administration, corporate america, and the president's campaign operatives and strategists. and all of us are gaining a much more clear picture of just what a thicket of interrelated institutions and relationships that amounts to which raises serious questions. the issue of contemporaneous government, political and business access. use of data that appears to be, well, the separated currency among some of those institutions not long before the scandal broke, some democrats were publicly bragging about the president's massive campaign database and what it means to the future of the democratic

party. here is congresswomannmaxine waters in february. >> the president has put in place an organization that contains the kind of data base that no one has ever seen before in life. that database will have their permission about everything on every individual in ways that it has never been done before. lou: maxine waters is talking about a database and the3 organization for action. the president's campaign, of course -- those campaigns are all over, at least we think. the democratic campaign certainly isn't. data mining isn't, and those relationships get even more complex as in the case of google whose executive chairman poured millions into a data company dedicate -- dedicated to progressive causes. and the google mining managing and selling user information

some might consider to be private and most of the commercial sites and services on the web do so as well. it's complicated faugh. add another controversy to the ever expanding list of obama white house scandals. let's call a travel date. the "washington post" reported that when the president travels to sub-saharan africa this month it could cost us up to $100 million. that is meaning the taxpayers. the week-long visit the president planned to south africa months and the gall, tanzania would involve moving more than 50 support vehicles, military jets and ships, aircraft carriers, amphibiouu ships, ships. white house officials are defending his trip as outreach to emerging democracies, even going so far as to claim that it will be a great bang for our buck.. that would become if i may correct them, about 100 million

taxpayers box. a plan for the safari in the first family reportedly unfortunately axed after the "washington post" asked the white house about the cost of the safari. our reach, check please. for more on travel datt, the growing mountain of other obama administration scandals, we are joined by former arkansas governor host of huckabee on the fox news channel, a former presidential candidate and all-around good guy, mike huckabee. good to have you with us. >> one thing about it, i have never taken $100 million week vacation. unbelievable. lou: and it sequestration is making all the difference. >> jack, we can't -- the blue angels can do airshows, can have white house doors, but brocken michele's excellent african adventure will go %-lou: we might as well laugh because there's no other real response says we can do anything about it. >> paying for the buck. it's a bang, but i'm not sure

for the buck. lou: don't you feel better knowing that efficiency is paramount in their minds at the white house? >> what i don't understand is why anyone, left or right, would not be our rates for the fact that the president would even say, look, it is okay to spend this kind of money. talking about bang for your buck in the world of teleconferencing, the nsa has all the information anyway. lou: and thinking -- >> for a hundrrd million you could buy them all to the white house and treat them for a couple of weeks and state dinners and some of the finest restaurants in the district. finance a few extra phases in an emergency -- emerging democracy. less talk about the nsa leaker, edward snowden, who has apparently decided that hongkong is, if you will, the citadel of democracy and fairness and that

communist china is a really good place to put your concerns if you happen to work with the national security agency of this country. kendis did more bizarre? >> it really can't, then you had vladimir putin who was advising president obama that he needed to be careful about being too heavy-handed and not snooping on citizens. this is a guy who used to run the kgb, for heaven sakes. he is warning us about privacy. come on. lou: a wonderful thing abbut president putin is seeking do with a straight face. >> can and does. president obama can, with a straight face, tell us that we can trust him. don't worry. we will never use that affirmation. lou: we do feel better about that, don't we? being so short. now, at the same time, very serious issue, the issue of national security, civil liberties, and that trade off their van. and this president is the guy who said five years ago, that's

a false choice as a campaign for president. it would never happen to him certainly. that would be a bush affair. it looks like he has taken this country indirections' unimaginable. >> a simple question that think people need to recognize. if we say we are collecting all this information because we want to stop terrorism yet when a man stands up at fort hood, texas, screams and kills 14 people, 13 plus an unborn child and the president still has yet to acknowledge that that was terrorism, want to know is exactly define terrorism for me. if that is that terrorism, if the little rock shooting is not collecting this data for? lou: at the same time, i am watching several of these members of congress just excoriating intelligence officials, military officials, justice department officials, some of home need excoriating,

but for other reasons. and it is as if they don't realize that they are the ones with that 10 percent respect rating on the part of the american people. trying to be rate the leaders of our intelligence agencies, sitting there, you know, some of them with four stars on their uniforms who have served this nation for their entire lives. i don't understand. and suddenly we're not worried about what cyber attacks from china are, we are worried about data mining that at this point no one has even demonstrated to be unlawful or inappropriate. >> i do think we need to be concerned. the government is collecting vast amounts of intimation on private citizens who are not suspected of any crime. the question is why and what they going to do with it? and if this were in a world where we could really trust the people in the government, maybe so. information could be used to completely dictate a presidential ellction. suppose information could be

cleaned and every candidate, and people could go and say, you're running, but let me tell you something. lou: of the fact that you put that into some sort of future hypothetical rather than worrying about the last. at the same time, again, there seems to be a sense of irony that our congress is not held in very high regard, to be kind, that we have lost sight of the assaults on this country right now. cyber attacks from china. administration get out thought, how smart it, and made to look like fools by the chinese president and his regime in china, just utterly obliterating that 2-day summit which was supposed to have as one of its primary agenda items china cyber attacks. >> my concern is also much for the people who work in the intelligence community, many of whom work very hard. there were anonymously. it'll make a lot of money and will never get rich at what they do. they love their country, and they're following the orders in

the policiis that somebody else's set. i don't want to excoriate them. me to be very respectful of people on the intelligence community, but we do need to demand of our policymakers, what are you collecting the data for? can you tell us that it is really necessaryy that collection at the did not stop the issue bummer, underwear bomber, times square bomber we have no real evidence that stopped the new york subway were prevented the new york subway bombing. lou: acknowledged that it was not a nsa intersection that led to that. >> apparently something london police shared with the new york police that had more to do with human intelligence rather than algorithms in the computer program. lou: i am one of those guys that issjust delighted to see human intelligence were going on. this rare occasion. all right. it seems -- you know, there was a time when human intelligence in this country going back to september 11th, george told me very clearly, five years to have

a clandestine service that is effective. thank goodness we have gone through hat process. always great to talk with you. >> pleasure to be year. lou: mike huckabee. be sure to tune into a shell. we call it the huckabee show saturday and sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on the fox business channel. new government watchdog reports the scandal-plagued internal revenue service, this time the treasury inspector general says more than 1,000 irs employees abuse their government credit-card. the wrongdoing includes allowing others to use the cards, writing bad checks to cover outstanding balances on those cards, but at least they tried to pay. all of this to place in 2010-11. the report claims irs officials were, as they put it, overly lenient when punishing workers with such issues. others might call them bribes. there you are. not to the latest on the benghazi scandal. members of the house

intelligence committee brief behind closed doors today on the status of the benghazi investigation. the top democrat on the committee spoke to reporters and explained the lack of answers on factors entirely out of the control of the u.s. government. >> to find that he the bad guys were, that you organize these attacks, who go americans. we have some of our best people and agencies focusing on working together to do that, but it is very difficult. it's difficult working conditions. benghazi is not a very well-organized country, and a lot of security. lou: doggone. it is tough, hard work. we are sure that the congressman and it is not a well organized and chaired by the way. yes we're going to have to wait for the advance of civilization and libya before we can get any answers from this administration. well, as we go to break, we want to take a second to pay tribute to a old glory, the grand old fg adopted by the continental congress on this date

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lou: congressman paul ryan thing that the gang of eight is

essentially amnesty. he was speaking at a forum on immigration sponsored by the national association of manufacturers. >> i will debate anyone who tries to suggest that these ideas are moving as amnesty. they are not. >> there you have it. heritage foundation says yes, they are. their response is sorry, chairman paul ryan. joining us now the vice president of the heritage foundation. genevieve wood. what is going on here? >> we have the national association of manufacturers. we have the chairman of the house budget committee. what are you guys doing wrong? >> the question is when did they start redefining words. this is verbal gymnastics going on. it is no matter what you call it

>> 11 and a half million immigrants have across the border or overstayed their visas. they have broken the law. we are saying that we are going to have you pay a few fines, but we are going to give you legal status even though the way that it is here, it is illegal behavior. it is amnesty. we have tried this before. the same thing it didn't work. >> i don't know if we have this full screen. but the percentage of hispanics votes for presidential republican candidates, we do not. but it is nice to bring that up.

after the 1986 amnesty, and under the leadership of president ronald reagan, republicans have never ever done well in which president bush received about 44%. i'm told right now that we do have that. there you can see this 1984. republicans getting 37%. ninety-two to 25%. 1996, 21%. it doesn't get much better than that.

>> if you look at it politically, i think republicans ought to be trying to get more hispanic votes is 11.5 million people that are here today, many of them, if they become legal residents, they will get sucked into a lot of government programs including a country that allows them to move up the economic ladder. lou: despite the assurances of the gang the gang of eight and other another advocate, if it's these people way ahead and this

is -- florida -- former florida governor saying that immigration reform could be due to immigrants being more fertile. [laughter] this is kind f outrageous. >> they are searching. they are looking for sound bites the facts are that you will pay for what and this will only of the problem. lou: there is no question in the world. moving forward, it is an incremental approach to solve the problems to the benefit of

the nation and illegal immigrants. the s&p down today, nasdaq down 22. volume was 2.9 billion shares. and another day of light trading. posting weekly losses, more than 1%, and economic news, the highest level in six years. producer prices up. half a percent. posting gains on the day, closing just below $13.88 per ounce. settling ust below $90 per barrel. the 10 year fell to 2.1%. and ralph nader is called a con

man. submit your favorite nicknames for president obama. we will have a few names that you sent in and we will share them with everyone watching tonight. keep them coming, we were come right back. .

lou: longtime consumer advocate, candidate ralph nader. harsh words for president obama. last year he talked about raising the minimum wage. >> has there been a bigger con man in the white house than barack obama? we made the statements in the 2008 campaign. he said nothing other than raising the minimum wage. no pressure on congress. >> he is not the only one

outraged. we have seven of the mounting scandals in the "chalk talk" yesterday. we invited suggestions for a nickname along the line of tricky dick and slick willie, given all of the scandal surrounding the president. and man, did you have some ideas. here are a few of our favorites. there are so many that we can't get them all here. the first one is the bystander. obama nation, and scary very and oh, bummer. babbling berry. a little bit rough. obama drama, we use that from time to time.

this one i haven't heard from anyone, barackphobia and obamanator e-mail me at lou@loudobbs.com. how about obamarama? another triple digit loss today. john lonski is here with us next. president obama sort of committing to eating the syrian -ebels. admiral james lyons joins us and you will know precisely what he means.

lou: my next guest says the united states has no strategic interest in syria and should focus instead on iraq. joining me now is admiral james lyons, retired commander of u.s. pacific fleet. why then do you think the president has chosen to arm the rebels despite the protestation of the united nations. >> i don't see how we can sort out the bad from the good rebels when they are changing their allegiance on a yearly basis. we cannot even figure out who is at the bottom of our irs scandal and we control it. >> we cannot figure out what this administration did not do

an ungodly. you say that we should be taking strategic advantage of iran's involvement in syria. what you mean by that. what should this demonstration do? >> our greatest strategic issue in the middle east today is preventing iran from gaining a nuclear weapon capability. their commitment in supporting the civil war in syria, we should take advantage of that and deployed our forces so that we are prepared to conduct and launch a devastating strike to eliminate their nuclear infrastructure. the issue of iran achieving a nuclear weapon capability makes every other issue pale in comparison in the middle east. >> the president will meet with vladimir putin monday at the g8 to discuss whatever the

deliberation produces in the white house or whatever direction they will take this country in syria. can you give us your quick assessment, as he would, as you think that will work. is therr a likely cooperation or will there be confrontation between the two leaders remapped. >> i do not see where the restart button has worked to benefit with russia. in fact, they have taken -dvantage of that and conducted a reinstitution of cold war tactics. lou: admiral james llons. up next, whilst street finishes

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lou: the federal reserve is reported to be pushing back on the market expectations that it itself has created. the rate increase that it is meeting next week. including capering the bond purchase program and perhaps even raising rates here to

define what is happening is john moxley. it is great to have you here. i think that we ought to start off in the midst of all this. the market is still up 15% year-to-date. it is that bad, isn't? >> that is not bad. it becomes clear that the fed is not about the tight monetary policy. it is 7.6%, the utilization is falling and profits are barely growing by less than 5%. lou: who bears the greatest responsibility for all of this noise? we are talking about ending the stimulus and the bond purchasing program. i mean, some idiot for even talking about raising rates, for crying out loud. >> may be it is the fed chairman that should have put his foot

down. warning people not to mislead the market. lou: you are not talking about this. >> look at the case of this bond market. this gives an idea of how willing we are going to be. we've seen bonds go up by a percentage point. by less than 5% to 5%. these can only adversely affect the economy and thh supply of credit. lou: what is low volume this week? you interpret the reason for that for the upcoming meeting and all of the query that we now can presume and one other factor? like it is being held in this

area. >> perhaps it is not a bad idea that to the sideline and have someone take a chance. lou: one of my favorite gurus out there right now -- they come up with more nonsense. they are pushing a 30 year bull market in bonds straight in to what they are trying to lift it with all forces, talking about a 60% chance of a recession in the next three to five years. what is going on in the minds of these folks. what are they pushing? i know that they are pushing this a bit. but what in the world is going on with the business that they are even paying attention this? >> there is a 60% chance of a recession. in three to five years, we are

going to forget about this. >> this is all that is going on. other people are talking about the forthcoming 10 year treasury bond, which think is unlikely anytime soon. lou: are the hedge funds managers getting dumber? who is paying attention to this blabber and nonsense? >> maybe they are doing the right thing. i think this latest selloff that we have our wider chill spreads that silence can be golden and this is not -- this is not the time to suggest an impending quantitative easing. >> i think ben bernanke was being brilliant as he set thee3 stage for clarity.

>> sometimes leaders cannot be afford afforded to be heavy-handed. lou: between equities and boods. >> you have to keep the troops in line. you cannot allow every person who works for your organization as far as the strategy might be headed i think that right now those officials that we are talking about, those that need to get rid of this have been quieted. >> john lonski, we thank you for not being quieted. up next, a consequential battle. the co-author, james lacey joins me next.

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lou: our next guest is a modern master of military history. his new book examines the key decisions of critical mistakes in moments of crisis and 20 pivotal battles that shaped the world's history. it is an immense undertaking. the author of this bran new book, james lacey, it is great to have you. his book is "moment of battle." it is so great to have you here. okay, so the first american battle reaching considerable history in this book. most people don't don't talk about this in the revolutionary war. >> george washington was there. it's surprising that people do not talk about it.

it was a critical battle of revolution. we needed support, we needed the french navy and troops. without that, we probably don't win the revolutionary war. lou: how much pushback did we get? >> since the book has been out, it has been tremendous. it is actually funny to watch it. when someone reads this, they consider and you just don't understand it at times. it is a no-win situation.

lou: you also bring up the battle. i don't know whether it's my perspective. but when i think about the battles in history, you talk about operation in which our milittry took the bridge across to keep that moving. when did you choose that path? >> well, some of it is because people can relate to it. number two is we think it is not consequential today. a tiny statesman once said this. he said it is too early to tell. i think that the final effects of that battle and what we are doing are too hard to tell.

obviously it is part of the arab spring, many of the things that are going on now, we would like to influence this to the degree that they are all related to what happened in 2003. it will turn out good or bad. we will make that judgment in 10 or 15 years to you just said something that is talked about. including the causality but one could argue. the bush administration insists on going into baghdad. in the obama administration and iraq. how important do you think all of this will bb? >> years ago i wrote an article about civilization that this was going to happen.

i wrote about it and they said that's not actually write. but if you look at it today, the entire arab world is unraveled. when i wrote that article, i was hoping that turkey would stop. hopefully they will get things under control. but i'm not 100% optimistic. i think it is a very dangerous situation. if turkey goes away to egypt is going, we have the policy going forward and it is almost beyond scary. we cannot lose turkey. lou: now is the president has obviously said, we have a new element of uncertainty and jeopardy.

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lou: all of the rat traps that we just end up making for smarter rats. welcome, everybody, i am neil cavuto. after all of the scandal revelations in these elaborate systems to go after bad guys, the bad guys get smarter and avoid them. congressman mike rogers isn't giving any specifics but he is saying that they are changing their behavior by apparently not using the technologies on which we are spying. whether that means we are not