tomoow. lou: good evening. one nation prevailed to assert i interest in the summ in northern ireland and it was not united states. today's of talks of g8 and one ho discussion twtween obam andoots and on syria turn out to be an embarrassment for the presidt. presidt and syrian ally sucssfully blocked @%e finaltatement from ining a call for syrian president to step down and threatened veto of the the g8 condemnationfter he insisted there is approved

this syrn regime used chemical weaponsgainst his own people and the obama white house claims it did. the foreign policy looks increasingly muddled d confuse particularly in most urgely on the issue. bu itmay be hawkish announcement it would send small arms to the rebels some of whom h have dangerous ties to al qaedaut in the interview taped sunday presidt obama said it had not changed his policyt all. an not to help with the syrian civil war. >> it isot easy to sli slide ur way because it is now working immediately, then six months from now people say youive

thehovey all -- artiller now we need this nowe need this. because intel he is defeated in this vw it ll never be enough. right? lou: so for now th president convinced to offer aid that is beginning to a up. oba pledges another $300 million of humanitarian assistance that will be send to the people and with refugeesf neighboring countries that brings the money give to 800 mlion most committed over e past two months and any resolution in syria will haveeto wwntil the peace talks which have been heduled for ne month in geneva and i guess. and now withnterest to grow -- govement programs

cast in a new light. keith alexander in front of the chief intelligence committee today projected the miion to protect the people and rapids a positive results. chief intelligence corresponden has ou repo. >> reading om a prepared statement keith alexander ma as a case that sweeping dataoection justifd. >> these programs of other intelligence from terrorist threats acro the globe to help prevent the potential terrorist events over 50 times since then 11. >> whether e--ailrphone calls are texting they had outside approval. >> is if spying today are hang spi on american tizens? >> we do not target u.s.

persons without a specific court warrant. >> the desions made internally. >> goal made 20 analyst for a total of 22 people are authorized to approve numbers that could be used on the database. >> witnses cited the disruption of the new york ciubway plot, the attack on the new york stock exchange and also one tied to t grou in pakistan. as f as the phone records of the patriot act witnesses said it is more complicated. >> specificallyase by case how man we those programs essentials? >> you ask almost the impossible question how portant ea was.

>> and wi a critical surveillanceole in em by a terrorist attack for more than 400 people killed or wounded also the takedown of the new york subway plot relied heily on british intelligence and moniring of the suspicus e-mail account when questiod if the phone companies could hold records rather than th u.s. government with. >>he fbi and u.s. i have the architectural framework how we do is proam. >> to investigate that potential restructuring was plots in the u.s. on the 10 out of 50 had a domestic connection communications but now records accounts for e intelligence of the destruivattacks now they are considering bills to let the sa collection on americans. lou: thank you karen. our chief intelligence

correspondent. and my first guest tonight says general alexander provided the first true meaningful defensen the agency and joining as now i is former federal prosecutor leading the prosecution of the 1993 w tde center bombers also authors of the grant hyd and spring fever. and to me a mpelling case even in the hearing rooms that committee was growing up a little. we did not hear th congressman giving that valuable advice but it emed a litle much your. >> you have an adult who was

an incomplete ommand of the facts to make the most compelling defensbut i don't think it is enough because i don't think it is like a bully pulpit today general alexander is not the president and theyo ed the defense of the oval office and specifically obama. lou: the president's defense of his administration and eecy rose tose this level. hehoug it was pretty transparent. what does he need to say tt be effective. >> anythingis transpare because after five years with the acity of this adminiration transpant is more of a joke than @%ything that would be effective with discourse. >> he needs to explain my general alexander did, why we need these programs and what the strtural civ liberties protection are

because the runaway freight train his peopleho are opposed to the programs and saw the issue as way for wh they lt when the paiots back to was authized or overhauled had stolen the narrative. basically having people think the intelligence community is actively ying on americans. lou: i think today if i am corrt $0.2 a higher level of maturity on the committee, perhaps they always ha thereenforcing vae of the national media it given the politics of the maer. so hopefully we will see more attention paid to take up the time to lead the effort to protect the cotry and its infrastructure. let's turn to the g summi the president waaked away

slapped around by vladimir pretend it was -- what american and a dismal performance. >> you ideological purpos -- regressive as a way to conduct foreign licy is not t be guided by our own terest but to be part of the world community inhi we basicallyecruit countries that are hostile to the uted stat including russia and not onlyn to the desionmaking process but to give a veto over the actions we wish to take. this is the issue largely becaus we are living in rock obama is world and this the result. -o we will for some time and to take up talkwith th taliban with the resoluti of afghanistan

this turns our history, our foreigpocy on itshead to lead to wear >> where common sense takes you that the war has a winner and loser if you are not in i to win it, you lose and aot of what has gonen with th presint's spee how he iseclaring the war wh it -- is over without having to do the hard work, what we see now is they try to address this up into something other than humiliating defe fore united state that is very much contraddcry to our terest goingorward. lou: andrew mccarthy. good to have you with us. next we will turn to the issue of the day a key milestone of theokyo war of afghanistan. president carter sit will be formally taking over from

the to coalition combat forces are moving into a supportive role before the full list all in the year and after just a f miles from wre cars i was speaking deadly bomb blast killed three ahans in just 100- handover come over the same d it has announced plans with the afghan government. >> senatorndsay gramm says the republican party is headed for a death spiral if it does not suort of a gangf eight. and theuestions we will ask the chairman. the whistle-blower the state department scandal says investigators are trying to bully her.

the. lou: another good day on wall street. stocks posting strong gains as the fed kicked off the two day popolicy meeting dow nes industrial average moving 35 points and the nasdaq gained 30 and volume at 1 billion shares and consumer pce is kicking up slightly risg one-ten of a percent in hoing starts up less than expected and up from 7% in may. gold fell $16 closing below $69 ounce and setting act 9844 a barrel of bias in

september. the yield on the 10ear in new developments tonight and the state department whistlblower exposed the alleged and then for doing so acording to a n report of foreign olicy magazine that says a former state department desiccator h them camp out in front of her house to harass her children thof t campaign started la week whenthe whistle-blower tha handed overocuments to cbs news to influence or manipulated or call off t inveigations of misconduct including sexual assault assault, prostution and drugs. with the irs intimidation scandal elisha cummings defied house oversight committee chairman darrell i said to rlect -- relsed

the interview of the irr employee and blaed cummings that after unsuccessfully trying to convince the american people that officials in washingto did not play aole in screening to declare a national television for the case of irs targeting was solved andongresshould move on, this looks flailing it will now serve as a road map for other irs officials to navigate investigative interviews with congressional investigators. immigration reform, a b topic on cap hl as they discuss measures tofix our broken immigration system and mike emmanuel with our report. >> and emotional disruption as a house judiciary committee authizing state anlocal police to enforce

immigration laws the most contentious of all the bills in the house. >> we trust them to enforce laws from capitol mrder to shoplifting and everything in between. >> we coultrustthem to enforcimmigration laws. >> it wld lead to racial profing an unccnstitutional arrest. >> and millions of citizens taken this week to protect members of their family and community that it would incur. >> than those crackingown. >> and reset in the same tube -- with them and work in the same community with them. don't criminalize them. with those democrats that imgran form with aian banner

tomorrow. >> any refm bill ought to have a majority of both parties support if we are serious about makingthat lot. >> it will requireougher secu measures and it took up an amendment requiring construction of 700 miles of double there fencnce along t sthern border before eligible imgrants could apply for the green card. >> iis iortant inmy view we have a tangible w in which we make it very clear was people ng to the country illegally. it failed with of gang of ght opponents but the cbo released this core of the plan and cbo concluded would boost economic growth, t the deficit short-term and long-term as well they are calling it a huge momentum boost booz allen hamilton key mike emmanuel.

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lou: joi us now to assess the number of issues that a important to the republican party a its future is issues like immigration of foreign policy, national security joined by the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus. >> it is nice to be in the studio. >> a delig to have leo -- to have you. >> with the elepht behind me. [laughter] lou: let's start with your spokesman. you have senator john mccain senator lindsay gramm beating drum ldly wi the military intervention in syria. 70ercentf the people say n't ev think about it mr. psident. are they representing the

republican party? >> the national security is something that i have to tellou, it i not alace that we dived into a whole common thread is theis a president isn't bleeding and hi yes is not a yes and he is not decisive. when he is pushed into military interveion of weapons support by a comment might- made by bill clinn. and the next few ds the president came out a said no we will go into syria but the problem is dabbling in to anything is probmatic. >> onwith think the republan party and a conservative would stand up for nservative values. >> we are up here it -- a

party of freedom and alws believe what reaga said peace throh strength ould be a hallmark of this country. llu: the operative wor >> establishing freedom around the world is something of a cornerstone of this country. u: are you saying to me we have just taken on the responsibility of freedom? >> of course not. but i do think as president of the united states, you have to exhibit strength it is yes and sometime but playing both sides of the fence and coming out in favor of some support after a er president criticizes, shows exactly where this president is at. >> the last time charlie rose versed his position.

>> he is devolving on ns now he tries to bring bush. lou: talk aboumarco rubio. >> you are on fire tonight. lou: here he is. the world wates over me. [laughter] to talk about how great the bill is then personally saying the border security is too light and it will not work and drove not pass. >> i think he is being coistent. lou: i cannot wait to hear th. [laughter] >> b the fact is if you don't get the border security piece rates, it is a tru. free hadomprehensive immigration refo and standpoints that we agree and if you have no abil to secure the border what will happen in a few years? if we have no secu border

in we are negotiating over a five-year penalty why not make it for? asf 14 make it 10? in the end you have no secure border you have nothing in the end. lou: if ever one -- anyone preachin to the acquired it is you. let me bring to your attention the third amendment for secutyn the rder was defeated by the gang of eight and a grassley amendment with significant security and the real deal was defeated with the votes of all mbers of the gang of eight. does anybody republican democrat when we say pay attention to history? in 2006 it there could have been ail passed into law. but those senators primarily and the present tried to we're watthing the same

thing unfold and those folks watcng are going to vote inignificaumbers and th are tired. >> so why doesn't th republican party do it? >> youave a democratic controlled senate and a republican controlled house but you have a common denominator and marco rubio is out there in those people believe we need immigration reform in this country. it is a no-brainer so now you have republicansike rco rubio leading on this issue clearly. lou: what is the pot*? >> unless you have of focus on the border serity peace lou: you are focused? are you kidding me? marco rubioio voted against it. lindsay gramm. >> on one piece.

lou: to pieces. >> maybe there's sothing wrong withhose they say without border security does not wk. intellectual isn't that inconsistent? maybe now with politics. >> there may be muiple answs. lou: we only have time for one. >> you will get a bill out of t senate and you will have the border security piece to be beefed up b the republican ctrolled house and the pple made calculations for what it would take to pass the bill out of t senate and send the bill to the house and deal with the issues of what we are talking about. >> i don't know why they want to make it complicated but we will figure that out later. lou: we will figure it out. [laughter] lindsay gramm says the g.o.p. is ia dea spiral

if you don't buy into the gangf a deal but meanwhile that representatives in t house are pushing for for individual disk rebuilds the that makes sen so why in the wld is e republican party buying in to the proposition which is so light on security and by the way undefined in terms of itsreach that at best is a tough seel? >> it willnot be a tough sell because it will get to the house. lou: the death spiral? >> no. we are a long way from the bill to be complete. oncet get to the house.3 lou: of the vos do not appeer as lindsay gramm suggested, itfails and the prospect the g.o.p. is in a ath spiral. >> i don't think thats ue. look at congrsman appears. >> we're in a dea spiral

either way. [laughter] you have success republicans of all sides of the issue to makehe case to all americans whether hispanic, african-american and, white, . >> how many meetings ve been held on immigration reform? >> i don't k i dot keep a tally. lou: it is noa big issue with you guys but i pay attention. they haven't had any. th is a shame. we would like them to come into a republican sponred town hall meeting to express themselves. >> i have been a part of them and held them and conducted them. i will be there friday afternoonin snta ana. lou: we will be there. lou: i hope you keep dog them. >> i will be there. lou: because the last time the folks were squeezed out

of the deal maye will be different and i hope it is because of you efforts. good to see you reince iebus. watched the house carefully. up here tomorrow trade goudy joins us andormer national intelligence directo negroponte on why isn the president defending the nsa? and why are he conessmen and senatorsttacking him? send us your favorite nickname for president oba when you think o scandal whato you think of a rkbama? e mail me your suggestions at lou@loudobbs.com or two facebo four twitter. more suggestionsoming up later in the "chalk talk." stay with us. >> the markets make e triple dit swing and teddy weisberg is on the market. the head of the nsa says

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when lou: for more on the president's defense of the nsa surveillance program and the g8 summit i am joined by andrea tn tots and juan williams a great to have you with us. les start with the n. we havheard for better than a week criticism and judgments on the nsa i have not heard t presint to stand up and defend the agency and matt coress and republicans and democrats are being careful.

by? >> i think a lot of republicans and democrats were not appropriately brfed on the program to the american to argue people and i am shocked tt charlie rose called f a national conversation and basically it is a monologu but. lou: and to get closer? >> he knoww this is a real oblem and it hits to the crux of the base because they are very ups wh him being hypocritical on this sueillance issue. he tries to offer the fire is a court defense -- fisa quest only 11 were denied? it seems like a rubber stamp and out of control. >> i could notisagree more i think when she says t congress has n bn briefe i thin they have totally been briefed and it

is essential. i do n want to g blown up but they shoulhave had this debate when they passed to the pagerack there are a lot of sectors in those who signed the of blank chk and the who say i do not know who was involved but this is something we have known about for years. back through 2006 so what i think is a revelation without heart is an extension for that t2 court to continue do what they have been doing for some time. the idea they look for patterns among data i n a rprise and i woulbe surprised if thewe not doing it to. >> patterns among who? they're not surveiling the mosque. they take in all this information. i am okay wth surillance i was okay wh the patriot actmodera levels and in ordinaryimes and this is

fine if used sssfull bullet at boston and times square and the issue bomber. ift will n work en i want my freedom back. >> that is not fair. what we've heard today from the intellence people there are 50 or more instanceshis. >> trusts the vernment? >> then don't trust them. we kw what hpened we know about instances where al qaeda programs ve been thwarted by intelligence program. >> was not intelligence it was citizens on the street and a man running us stand in times square that said he wod blow up the street and somebody ee said he would put his underwear on fire. >> that is just was the lone hock to go out but there is a systematic program i place with congressional oversight, a good republican

mike rogers saide has been briefed and senate intelligence said the same thing no theyre covering their bets beus they are embarrassed but they knew. lo as you watch these folks testify with l law enforcement agencies are anti-terrori agencies, they have many of them in uniform every time i see these they have a full-time working to protect us they are tryyng to dissect to iterally sucks the time out of the lives and careers of these officers who were leaving these agencies rather th fosing how to counteract the chine, stops the cyber attacks. this isne of the most

carefully played in espionage acts in our country's history. it blew away a presidential summit in california. upto m it is obvious he is working ther for or the chinese gornment. >> it is too much of a cocidence of days after th short slee summithis is leaked in the midst of china being in the cross hair for hacking into our most secret weapons systems. he is in cha and thenwe ar about the russians so i agree with your assessment but i glad congress i taking that on but it doesn't seem this has beens tranarent as they say. thisecret fisa court is

not called transparency but now there is the oversight board? that does not puty mind that these. >> we all want america protected. >> that is tace-off. [laughter] one the country protected i just don't like the way they play politics. a loof the politicians right now areorried about theeactionrom the american publicspecially the young people whose seem to th that edward snowden is a hero or a murder but ooesn't pay theprice of imi i will tell u what i stand for my principles but he runs to china >> i do agree. >> that mes me suspicious. lo date you very much. [laughteter] have had good ones so far.

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actively disengaged costs the country as much as $550 bilon each year. yoare telling me this into earngs sean? mymy next guest says the markets are held hostage by the fed and investors should not expect ben bernankeo have anychanges omonetary policy tomorrow. joining us now is ted berg. deral reserve chairman effectively pushing the story outt to the wall street journal promised clarity on tuesday andyou are telli us he will n do anything? >> clarity from the fed? but that is possible because they speak in terms that most of us don't understand. but clity woulde nice but i don't know how much more he could give us. he h put out there to ty policies to the unemployment

rate and the inflationate andhere is basicly no inflation and unfornately the numbers don't seem to budge so i know whateople are expecting. lo it is interesting to watch crusade maybe th don'need 6.5nemploent as the benchmark but because it is so stubborn maybe that means 7%r they will rae interest rat? when we get throughwith l of this come if the chaian of the fed does not offer clarit, hisoice will be drowned out by his colleagues >> that ii paul -- possible but the impossible situation for the markets because it will be even more confusing

for the bottom line is as we spk at least the markets appear to be htage to use the fed. we have en that since he gave testimony and asoon as he was sent to be released the minutes and there wa saidisagreement from what he said and what then minutes said. u:hat is happening to their shorts? they try to push the case on busiss networkswith various publicatio. if it did not cost so much money for s many people it would be laughable. >> i am not surethere is a lot of sympathy but at could ha to with wha is drivinth market becaus once again going back at may 22n because that was a watershed day with a big reversal aad it ok like the short term we he t gotten back t those levels but not quite yet.

i think the shorts are struggling they haveo bu them bacand there is an expression he w sells what isn't goes to prisonn and the of bulls have the shorts running hard. >> they are doing pretty well. what about tomorw? this is potential for bernankeoots disappoint other than what is expected. >> these sends a message it will react negatively but at the end of the day whether 85 billion a 70 billion that will continue maybea lesser fashi but they will continue on that cours and that is a positive for the

marketver all lou: thank y for being here up next the scandal offthe obama lighthoose, too many to count we figure its time to have a nicame like richard nixon and william jefferson clinton. but we will share me of ur sgestions next on the "chalk talk." >>he fou negative 150 the best-selling truck in americ363 ears we have one parked outside aord will try to sell it to me. think they can do it?ññgógógógóó

lou: your overwhelng response to find the perfe nickname goes on it has gotten so bad for this president in fact, he is passing previous names with their scandals and we're looking for a name that is e esident just right. we have had funny onesthesnames. we will start with barracula but to knight bungling barry and snow job. those who like latin, this one gives the imperus thought to the conduct.

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