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well, they know all that. so go ahead and unburden her troubled souls and try and get these surveillance demands out just as you already had reported all these other demands out, the ones that you got from federal and state and local officials to talk to say nothing of governments worldwide. they're troubling enough and numerous enough. will it really make much difference to know the house when wind of the surveillance stuff now? had added. will google asserting itself as the least cooperative company now and do all the harm it willingly or unwillingly agreed to? i ee doubt it. i am all for cleansing one soul, but i think it requires you first have gasol to cleanse. those two surf the web already know that they risk getting caught up in the government's web. they do not like it because when uncle sam wants the stuff they figure the company's that they used to protect the stuff release it. no wonder a lot of these

customers already feel stuffed. they figure that no matter what google and yahoo and all these other guys to know, when push comes to shove they do little to protect their customers of all. formerly dip -- former deputy defense secretary and whether all this soul-searching really makes a difference or whether we just sort of have to bear it. >> well, this is really going to points. first off, the damage is done, if there is any. the basic point here is there is a lot of their permission out there that people have had to disclose to the government, but the fact of the matter is, those things need to be disclosed. the fact is the telephone records, some of the mills that are being penetrated, that stuff does not really bother me. the second point. neil: i love you dearly because you're so damned smart, but 115 plus million records out there for whatever reason does not bother you? >> at some level you have to say, may be the fisa court should be saying you need to

pare this town, and they are not good at that. reducing the kind of information they're looking for, but the thing to me in the second point is the real hypocrisy here of google. these are people who map where you live. neil: been go. and that is why this race that i year on the part of these companies after the fact, whether you -- and i guess you and i can respectfully disagree as to whether it is overkill, it is over fein guilt. what do you think? >> you are right. don't mistake me. i am not saying you're wrong on the breath of some of these requests. neil: please do. you are smart, but i read a prompter. that think i have some expertise >> at think you have a lot more expertise han just reading a prompter. the fisa court has not done a great job in trying to get the government appeared down requests. however, google is the company that you would want most to

penetrate. if you were the government and saying, these are the guys to track where people go, gps a metallophones, the guys to read your e-mail and scanned it for whatever reasons that the senate for keywords the senate as the map or you live. wouldn't you want to know all that information if you would the government? would. neil: a guy like he knows this stuff pretty well. does it make a difference if a company comes out and tells you how many times they had the request from the government to do this? >> i don't think it does. they're trying to cover their butts. you have a situation where there are told by their lawyers are panicking and some board members

>> say we need you to renew this. and you know, they have been ordered to do this 50 times over the past ten years. i don't know what they're getting at. it is as see why a maneuver. there is nothing more to it than that. neil: i won't argue on that because you have all my records. the former deputy undersecretary of defense. all right. google wants to tell a secret, how many times the government asked it to give away secret information. forget whether it has a lot of secrets. doesn't even have a case? aclu lawyer says google has a

case against the fisa court and he should know. his group is suing over all of this. good to have you. what do you make of this and whether google can press the point? >> we all have a right to free speech in this country. when the government wants to take away that right and the gag people like google or anyone else in the country, and has testified that. in a unique position to shed light on the debate is a good for step they want to publish information about how many users have been swept up in some of the surveillanceeorders.

the toe area members of the stickers that they get is information that they need, but also could be trying to publish information about the types of orders that they're getting and whether the orders are getting the dragnet type like the one that we saw directed at verizon. neil: that is what worries me. that is what worries me. i know a lot of people say, those orders, it's a big deal, trying to get some bad guys and all that. i think it is a bit of up argument myself, but leaving that aside to my worry about whether they're not even orders. when the government comes knocking in any entity through a fisa order or a judge with a piece of paper, more often than not my fear is -- and i hope i am wrong. more often than not i think these companies say whenever you want, just don't leave a mess. what if that is proven to be the case? should we be alarmed about how easy it is for the government to get information, sometimes without even having to go through legal hoops to do it?

%-case we absolutely should be alarmed. it is one thing to have a commercial relationship where you agree to give up a little bit of your privacy in exchange for some great human services. it is quite another for companies to then turn over that information to the government, and we sincerely hope that they are complying with the law when they do so when not doing so when it all have to. before we can have the debate about that, we need to know which is why what you will is doing in a positive for stepped off is the first up only. neil: you are not here to judge what might be motivating this time whether it is a lead corporate culture that they realize that they're hiding some fire right now. what do you make of this idea that whenever they release and however they release it, it is compromising by definition, but that we sign on to it as subscribers. we go ahead and use yahoo or google or apple or any of these

others in that tiny print, stuff that says, your life is an open book. >> well, i think that is a bit of a red herring being pushed by the government. it is one thing when we as americans choose to give up the information to our close confidantes or when we choose to e-mail people using services like google, but we don't expect when we send the mills like that for them to end up in a government data base without the government having to go to a court first. neil: i agree. i think we did a show not too long ago. the carnival cruise line. on the floor. it was ridiculous. they showed me, some lawyers showed me the documents that you sign when you go on a carnival cruise. in the argument was that the carnival cruise line was protected against. this could happen. it did not spell out in that morning that you may end up with feces on your floor, but it was so broad and the proviso so

general that it covered everything, even that. what is that? >> well, sometimes the government has a right to get that information, and sometimes that right stems from agreements that we met with companies on beaches to give the misinformation. neil: i had government guys you're saying that that is what has happened. this always we're showing no, but the rage is misplaced because we all surrender some privacy when we make a phone call and this is something we should recognize and wake up to. >> well, if the government is going to access this very sensitive information and in some instances the government is justified in doing so, but if it is going to it must do so in accordance with the rule of law where a country governed by the constitution and the rule of law and the values tha distinctively american command

of we are to allow companies or anyone in this country to turn -ver this very private information about us without complying with the law then we have really lost the commitment to our ideals and our values as americans, which is why it is important that we know. is important that we know what google is turning over, the types of orders that it is getting so that we can have this debate about what the proper line is when it comes to privacy. neil: we shall watch closely. thank you. good seeing you again. well, now we know that surveillance stuff, these guys on the floor, all these guys running around. they would be dead, all of them dead. it can't be that serious. we just had to know. we said whether all this is ae f big headset. -7♪ is something we all share. but who can help you find your own path?

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neil: all right, your records or their lives, what is it going to be? security expert tell us this week had they not done all that inspecting, see these guy on trading floor of new york stock exchange they would not be trading, they would could be

dead, blown up by terrorists, to former nyse boss dick grasso on whether he buys that. what do you make of it? >> i think that the authorities are spot on. new york stock exchange is the symbol of america's economic excellence. and those who' to bridge the country down -- bring the country down look upon the stockstockexchange as a proxy ie assault and extinguishment of our way of life. neil: i know, that but i'm saying, they are saying if they dendidn't have this surveillance program they could have seen a terrorist attack on the exchange. and a lot of people would be dead, do you believe that? >> i do, neil, twice before the 1993, first world trade center bombing, stock exchange was

subjected to acts of terror in 1979, the fln blew up a small explosive on a sunday evening in front of our broad street entrance, in 1989, an active group got on to the trading floor, penetrating our security. that was before the 93 bombing, the stock exchange represents a plump. new york city represents a plum to those who hate our way of life, i side with federal authorities i give them great credit, not only the feds but seconstock exchange itself has a terrific head of security who came. >> secret service brian gimblet he works hand in glove with authorities to keep people safe. neil: here is why we might disagree. you cannot tell me this surveillance program in and of

itself compiling records of 115 million americans, somehow led to stopping an attack on the nexnext -- stock exchange. >> you your skepticism is healthy and well founded which is why the government has a responsibility to became transparent. neil: but they are not. >> they have to step up, they are losing confidence of the american people. someone like you, i know would always opt for save the over anything else, in particular when lives are at stake, saying i don't trust the government, government has a responsibility

to come clean. neil: well, but it doesn't, what worries me under the guise of keeping us safe, you could sell a lot of stuff, a lot of nonsense, and fear of losing our lives will give up a lot of freedom in our lives, what is the balance to dick grasso. >> balance and litmus test, we have to have,ure are we compromg the tenent that made our country great and superior. neil: i think we are. >> wait, i know you were there. i was there. 11 years ago, okay 3,000 people died that day. in september. because we were not you know doing the things that needed to be done. followed bin laden in latter part of the 90s we had a shot at him, we did not take it who

knows had we taken that shot, 9/11 would have never occurred. so, you know, i error on side of human life. >> you are not hearing me, i am saying, to say that to save those lives we have to up survey lip program, more of type of verizon things now, to make sure it does not happy, even though the same program was in place at the time of the boston attacks and did diddly to stop them, i am saying be careful for what you wish for, under the guise it is keeping you alive, you are surrendering everything you have. >> no disagreement in the sense that the government and it has not to this point the government has got to explain to the american people, what the methodology is. what the protections are, so that we don't compromise the conscheduleddaconstitutional rif americans in turn say this is what we must do, if we save one

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neil: awkward, thousands of tea partiers protest to capitol hill, the place they are protesting is cutting bonus checks, $70 million in bonuses so far, tea partier mark meckler said that is bad timing, bad

everyone, the guy they call @%andfather of tea party movement. he is my age. how is that? what do you make of this? >> well, it is outrageous, but perfectly consistent with government behavior, there is a root cause. you have public employee unions, government unions that negotiate contract with government, they should not exist, that is where the bonuses are coming from out of the union contract. neil: irs gave us a statement on that, essentially be on bring obliged to do this. under a legal agreement. this means, we got to do it. and it is part of the machinery. you say, got to change that machinery? >> i say we have to destroy the machinery. there should are be so such thing as a government employee union, fdr him was against it and afl-cio said there is no place for government employee

unions, they are part of the cun can sir thacancer that is eatins country to death from the inside. neil: it gets weird. the timing of this, and what is going on, and what was mood of tea partiers who feel no doubt put upon. >> people are furious, not just -- this is a consistent b behavr of federal government, every agency across the oard, irs in the spotlight right now, they simply do not care when the american people think, they don't think about what the american people think. we're out here trying to figure out how to pay our mortgages, and put groceries on table that's put out $7 millio $70 min

bonuses to these who are harassing the americans. neil: was there a rage that white house was expressing a month ago. president said, i want to get to bottom of this, we have fbi director saying he could not remember the name of investigator going after this or indication that a single conservative and or tea party group has been called about this, what do you think of that? >> well, again, this is just a long-standing pattern, this is intentional, his is not a place take, already been proven -- a mistake, already proven not a rogue age out of cincinnati, it goes back to washington d.c., you will find this sinner since interagency, they are reacting in survival mode, to attack groups that oppose this massive expansion of federal government. neil: but they are not investigating it. but that rage, that we have to get to bottom of it, groups have

not been contacted, me thinks they are not interested in finds out what really happened. >> because they know what happened. they planned what happened. they like what happened. so more they can do this, the better they are at expanding government. neil: what is the strategy, to tea partiers fear that da administration or those in power, now we know it is not from rogue agents to someone reviewing document in washington are they just fearing that they will play the long ball on this, the dam administration and tired hope they lose interest. >> i don't think they fear it regardless of congress holding hearings putting on what i subject a show trial, congress created the irs, funds the irs, and provided over site for irs during peopl time period this

happened. i do not expect congress to do anything, tea partiers do not expect congress to do anything. @%ve we do it ourselves, we have to sue the federal government, and that is what is going to cause actual change. neil: mark meckler we'll watch. >> thank you, neil 92 who needs to spy on their conversation we could have a conversation, we're talking to da taliban, for whici think means we're negotiating with terrorists.

neil: look at the bright side at least we don't need their stinking phone records now we're going on the record with very terrorists with whom we've been spying, white house said they are open to peace talks with the taliban, and taliban is open to peace talks with the white house. terrorism expert said, thinks having talks like that is crazy talk. but it looks like it is real right now. what do you make of this? >> i don't know where it goes, but i think you are right, it is astounding, but also dangerous. taliban, one of the most evil forces in world today were responsible for al qaeda for

killings of 3,000 americans, we went in, and lost thousands of american lives to destroy the taliban, now suddenly, we're recognizing them as almost diplomatic equivlent, we're giving them legitimacy, and extending them protect of that legitimacso that can go around the world, and say, see the u.s. recognizes us, they are still continuing to kill americans, afghanis, and wim, a women at se we're entering talks with them? the notion -- you can talk with your enemy. bottom line, this is not just an enemy, this is a force that has never lived up to any type of promise that it made. why would we damage in talks with -- engage in talks with a group that has killed thousands of americans and will continue to do so, and destroy afghanistan, now we're in afghanistan trying to you know, basically, destroyed them.

yet, we're recognizing them, and giving them legitimacto d destry their own country. neil: here is a lot of sense. here is county. we felt same way in the day of plo, remember andrew young, had secret meetings, i guess with yasser arafat when jimmy carter was president, it led to good-bye andy, now ongoing dialogue, rocky relations but still with plo and palestinian authority. so, argument goes, extreme enemy of the moment, is the soartz of sort of negotiating partner in the future. you draw the line with taliban. >> i would also draw the line with plo, they never lived up to their promises. neil: you know where this goes? >> listen we know what happened when we negotiated with the iranians years ago, they used to buy time too build up that

nuclear program by telling us they were really suspending their enrichment program, they are not, taliban is 100 times worse than iranians they shot that 16-year-old girl in last 6 months, they killed 5 americans in last two weeks, there is no goodwill here. they are using us, we're allowining them to use us and enabling them to become legitimate, and become an equal force the can afghan security force, what is the ultimate goal? they will takeover the afghanistan country, and resume to a pre-9/11 status quo. that means all that we've done for last there were years, all american lives that are lost will be for vein. neil: but look at all money we

save on spying on them. >> right 92 tha 92. neil: that is sad. >> sad and dangerous , what disney it say to other islammers terrorist movements? they saying, just wait, they will recognize you, i fire for thfear forthe future, we've bees movement. neil: it is easy to get on the side of united states if you just say, i thinka as they said, just say you think israel can exist. when they say that, then dollars were flowing, amazing, they have our number you know. >> they have our number. and you know what, what -- einstein said, definition of insanity, repeating something that you sudden insane over and over -- that is insane over and

and over, that is what we're doing, it will cost mor american lives. >> thank you very much. neil: dide aetna say screw yarc to california?

neil: aetna dodging a headache, fedex dodging a bullet, and walmart not dodging squat. okay, literally, first off, a good insurance company that wants to stay that way, aetna bailing out of offering individual plans in california. but a start, in could affect certainly all californians. gary b, aetna says it is because of healthcare law, and how california wants to administer the law, you don't appear to be shocked?

>> no, if i was a share holder in it'erin aetna, i would applay saying in california, they have to same people with preexisting conditions, that means somebodyo the line, probably their existing healthy people will see higher premiums, and they will lose those people who other is insurance companies that they are wise to get out, unfortunately californians will suffer because there will be less competition. neil: dave? >> interesting. i'm a pretty strong free market guy, this is a little element that i beliive is pro consumer, insurance companies have a complex subject matter. so, that idea of exchange, that says, you have to sell a standardized package or four so everyone can see price

comparison, that is not a bad idea. i don't feel badly about california doing, that what is bad, california has done it in a way that says we're not letting you sell niche products, you could best serve pet shop owners, we don't care, you have to sell it to everyone and at this price only or you are out of here, i think they had about 4% of market, said, well we're out of here. not good for the consumers. >> and other businesses, that -- all right, issue two, fedex no more, out with better than expected. so-so revenues, but analyst called it a turn around in a sign maybe the global economy is turning ? >> i do not agree. i think when revenues drop, there are all sorts of ways that customers as we've seen, that can impact the bottom line, by one, just being mere efficient. -- more efficient, but what a revenue drops with a fedex or

ups that is a sign of the economy not only flat lining but continuing to slide down, that is why i think that we're going to be in trouble. you know come next few months. neil: dave, top line thing begins top out, watc watch out. >> a good news-bad news thing with them, revenue was up a little bit but not to expectations, and on that front, i would say, yeah that is not a good signal about the economy. not a big beats. neil: but. down a broad. -- abroad. >> it was down. neil: speaking of a quagmire not getting any less qaagi e . >> you are right. >> here is the thing. using technology to drive costs out. the math they continue to do that, that is a good sign because everything needs to do that. neil: all right, if at first you don't succeed find a better way to get them to spend, walmart

all but admitting be on visa, temping to dislodge amazon.com. so walmart is giving it a e-tailing go, promising to revamp the site. dave, too little to late? >> hard to say, i'm a big walmart fan. i like the company, i like the way they do things, it is hard when you are not guilt for a given purpose on repurpose your company, you can drive nails with a croquet mallet. neil: i have done that. >> that is not the best way it drive nails when amazon is built for e-tailing, it is hard to cash up with them, unless you leapfrog them, so far, guys built for big box retailing have not figured that out. neil: gary b, it is a huge concern. people use on-line site, what do you think.

>> i think dave is right, i'll expand that, i think almost impossible for walmart to do it walmart, stipulate that they are greatest bricks and mortar retailer. amazon is the greatest eretailer. flip it around, you could see amazon competing against walmart in a bricks and mortar in absolutely not. they sound like they are the same, they are retail, they are vastly different, and retail comes down with those margins, tiniest slip up, on the way, and you are screwed. we've seen that with retailer back to woolworths, w i don't think that walmart will succeed at it. neil: thank you very much. good sees you. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right, you thought this mayor would begun soon enough, so party now, well don't take out your styrofoam cups just yet. because, gulp! bloomy is

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neil: you know seems that everyone wants to be like mike. at least a lot of mayors have taken a liking to mike. as in outgoing new york mayor michael bloomberg. a bunch of big city mayors are getting in on the act by proposing strict limits to using food stamps to buy soda, down the road a lot of other stuff they don't like. is that their call? to a guy from ben begins -- bennna begans sayss bu butt out.

your issue is not the food stamp part but telling folks what they can do. >> i think that mike and dr. pepper got in a tussle at one point, and dr pepper beet the beat the hell out of him i don't know. the government overreach, and mandating what they can, and cannot ead o eat or drink is wr. that is a country of choice. that is what we should have. neil: i concur with you, this is the argument they make, you take care of yourself, not everyone is responsible. if they can't do it and won't do medical cost, government has to do it, that is the argument. >> well, when you say no or

restrict something, they will find a way to get it. neil: you say about big gulp soda, they get 5 smaller sodas. >> mandate here in new york, you know -- >> i say use it. >> there is a way around it let's go to genesis of it, when is education, do more education on nutrition, the most people in our business are doing that now, many restaurants where we're posting nutritional information we trying to educate, yet still let our guests retain their choice. neil: you have to do those calorie counts on your menu. >> absolutely. neil: have you a lot of delicious things, i can figure out that if i'm going to get the double stuffed baked potato, i am not eating a salad. but, where do we draw the line between helping people and baby sitting? >> well, i think it is not only

part of education, and moderation. neil: but food stamp recipients are not getting that maybe government says, if you use these food stamps to get bad stuff, it will make your condition worse, and you will get more dependant on this stuff that is not helping you or us that is not helping anyone what do you say? >> well, it is the aproach to restrict or pla mandate what thy can or cannot buy is not right way to go about it maybe breaking it more to educational selects, where we help foods on food -- folks on food stamps get more new frigga triggal -- nutritional purchases. you can go into any restaurant be as good or bad as you want to be, some it takes common sense.

neil: this goes, i think always -- whether michael bloomberg, well intentioned billionaire whatever. we can't do it so they will do it. and food is just part of the equation. you know. >> well, it is. but, again, i think you -- when you take a draconian approach, and taking away piece that would help in terms of education, and some teaching some moderation this wonderful word called discipline, that would help the situation more than saying, when you were a kid, your parents said no, you find a way to get it, whatever it was. because that is the pressous prize. i just think that best way to solve this come to bennigans, and have a money christo and a

beer and figure it out. neil: not much discussion on part of administration about all. so at least people wondering, who is running the shop? >> that is a great question. who is running the shop? i just see -- you just see more and more laxitty, and back to discipline in terms of information, the flip flopping, changes, and schizophrenic information. what is the truth? there is a basic trust we want to have as citizens. neil: it goes back to personal liberties, they are being taken away, whether it is what we eat or being spied on. >> absolutely. neil: paul thank you very much. >> come out to our bennigans.

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axiron. neil: come july 1, student lone rates double. they do not have anything to do about it unless they have connects, government connections, staffers get a pass on this hike, some say they should take a hike, if college

loan rates rise they should rise for everyone. sabrina you say another example of government dark side on subsidies, orchestrated by @%vernment with pre preferential treatment. >> they are trying to attract talent to the government, there is no bottom line. this is a artificial attempt to get good people, but distorting student loan market not fair to the rest of american students. neil: you know, that was argument if you went into government work you would -- what you lack in pay you would get in benefits or job security. >> you know, i don't have a problem with this, whether it may help attract people who government might not get

ordinarily. neil: deal maker would be a low rate? >> i think it is a way to offer benefits to people who are under paid. help attract the better people smartest people to government, but the problem is we should treat everyone the same. we have not give this benefit to people who work for government. the student debt crisis in this country is a horrible crisis, probably the most serious financial crisis we're facing as a nation, a trillion dollars, government has to do something something about this globally. neil: they are not. >> this is $100 million in a trillion dollar -- >> rounding it? a lot of rounding. >> the thing is we have a $1 trillion student loan probl

problem. 150 billion more in that market increases college tuition. you want to look at forest not the tree, the tree is 100 million-dollar program, and terrible job market. you work for the house of representatives you might make $30,000 a year this one program is not the be all end all, it is 150 billion we're giving out. it is the horrible job market. have you a better chance of getting an std in college, getting a job out of college. neil: i am a little alarmed that you would know that. you are a young guy. but, is a breen a-- is asabrint does rattle a number of americans. it could be perceived to be a double standard, idea, wait a minute, those -- in government, have a nice health care system,

not going to switch to the new one. and now, some young people there have a nice sort of a kushy college lone gar abty -- college loan guarantee protection. so they -- that does stick in a lot of people's craw. >> there are some misconceptions about what congress is exempted from and what it is not, people do not go to work on hill for government because of great salaries, they go because they have opportunity that come from those positions. we need to you know track the pattern. before 1984, true. congress was on a separate retirement plan, they didn't pay social security taxes, before 1995 they didn't have to follow civil rights regulations, and labor regulations, that so many businesses have. now we still see congress does not have to follow things. neil: there is that double standard thing. back in clinton days, bill

clinton tried to stop that notion of their way, our way to an every way. and this gets back to the notion, i knew i could not trust those government way t guys. >> i agree with you, problem is that this is a double standard, congress is doing nothing about solving a $1 trillion student debt crisis, they are giving people who work for them this special benefit, that special benefit was en acted over 20 years ago, before we had the crisis. it is extended now. neil: you say it keeps tuitions rising. >> it does, when my parents went to college it was $5,000 a year it is $$40,000. college is increasing, it is unaffordable it has become a way to extend childhood, it is not a way to get a job any more, people who study philosophy for 5 years, they don't look into

future for that. neil: you have a lot of angry philosophers out there. but you right be right. bottom line, it is happening that deadline is close. maybe they will resolve it, maybe not. see you. l have it tomorrow.@ here ces "the willis report." gerri: tonht on "the willis report", a big change in the w that we view obesity in america. but already warnings that wil make us een fatter. and new problems with the obamacare help exchanges. millions at risk of having no health insurance at all. and getting greries for free. we are watching out for you tonight on "the llis report" ♪ ♪