that is my "2 cents more." and that is it for tonight on "the willis report." thank you for joining us. do not forget to record the show to catch us live. have a greathththththththththth. see you tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. thank you for being with us. president obama and some -- there reserve chairman bernanke gave talks today. the president i berlin, bernanke in washington. their performances are not well received by their respective audiences. today marking the seven consecutive dayhat t dow jones industrial average moved triple digits. the dow jones induutrials plummeted more than 200 points on the day. th sell-off was driven by investor frustration and some disappointments at the remarks of fed chairman ben bernanke. bernanke delivered a statement full of seemingly positive elements, a continuation of bond

buying in the outlook for continued improvement and economic growth. but investors are not having any of it. president obama received a lousy reception in berlin and back at all. in berlin he delivered a speech that seemingly no one found relevant or compelling. the estimated crowd o only 4,500 on the east side of the brandenburg gate, a far cry from the 200,000 who came out to see then candidate obama speak on the west side of the gate back in 2,0, a striking contrast. president obama today said he wantto negotiate with russia to further ruce the number of strategic nuclear weapons that both nations hold. the united stes with more than 1900. the russians with more than 1700 ready to launch. >> i have detmined that we can

ensure the security of america and our allies and maintain strongnd credible strategic deterrent while reducing our depl sategic nuclear weapons by up to one-third. i intend to seek negotiated cuts with russia to move beyondold war nuclear postures. lou:he image of the president that you saw their filtered througa bulleroof glass that was erected for his protection. russian deputy prime minister dmitri reno's in said moments after mr. obama's speech that the president's proposal to reduce nuclear arms cannot be taken seriously while the president continues to build up u.s. missile defenses. tonight we will b covering the sappoiing performances of both president obama and airman bnankon opposite sides of t atlantic. we will also be talking with a former director of national -ntelligence, ambassador john neopon talking about the

prospects of american volvement in the syrian civil war and no world of seccets that now have become all too transparent for the intelligence community. the chairman of the judiciary subcommittee o immigrationnd border security joins us. congressman trade goudy. we take a lookt some troubling numbers inhe congressional budget office alysis of the gang of ght immigration bill. and congressman goudies scess in moving his safect to the house floloor. formerentagon official katie mcfarland and brigadier-general david grains joins us to take up chinese rreaction to nsa leaker edward snowdon's claims wt american involvement in this serious civil war might lead to in the tense standoff between prident obama and that russian president. venturing into the sometimes disturbing story of what is happening to the american family and the values that are, if not

lost,ayward and wondering. it will take it up with manhattan institute fellow k i'm let's be really begin with the president's nuclear arms reduction proposal. to adding to his growing foreign policy checklist, including arming the syrian rels, controversy of peace talks with the tell a man. here now to discuss these issues in the nsa defense of national security surveillance programs is ambassador john negroponte, the fir directo of u.s. naonal intelligence serving under president george w. sh and five time ambassador. ambassador, great to have you with us. >> tha you. lou: let me turn first to what we are -- the president's statements today about reducing effectivelyartially disarm in the nuclear weaponry with the ssians. your reaction to the proposal of the concept?

>> well, i do not think there is anything terribl that, and i am not too concerned about what further reducons we mig negotiate with the russian i still think that they will be in the ballpark leading us with plenty of nuclear capability, but as you yourself mentioned in your opening there, the russians at least initially have rcted to this by linking this matter to the question of our development or not developing further misfile defenses. so iiam sure that we will enter into a fairly complex discussion here. with in the past these kinds of talks with the russians the eventually lead to some kind of further reduction of nuclear arms. lou: and the psident today having to explain to the people of europe what eard snowd

revealed, andhat is that the nsa has been carrying out surveillance. do we have that tape please of theredent today? is that available? let's hear what the president said. would like to get your reaction to it rht after we listen to it. >> i was a critic of the evious administration for those occasions in which i felt they had violated our values, and i ca and with a healthy skepticism about hal our various programs wereponsored. but what i have been able to do is examine and scrub our intelligence services are operating, and i am cfident that at ts point we have struck the appropriate bance. lou: he did not quite blame president bush, did he?

>> well, buu he defended the program. he defended our national interest here, i think, which is to be able to continue this program. of coue their is a lot of sunderstanding about the program is about. it is not about reading erybody's mail and intersecting all their phone calls. it is about keeping them at a date, the so-called records of these calls to match them against -- to see if any calls come inrom some suspicious area, like was here is ten and the border area between pakistan and afghanistan and to check against a possible terrorist phone cal. lou: are you astonished at the congress? and by congress and i am referring to republicans and democrats. in the president and self has done so little to defend the nsa, the two programs that are the focus ofhis edward snowden

leak. it has been a very tepid defense for an agenc, an organization that spends so much time and money and energy protectg the country. it is as if politics overwhelms all conrned for t national interest here. >> well, there has certa been a lot of commotion, but on the other hand, i can think of some examples where congressional chairma in chair women have actually defended the prram rather strony, like senator dian feinstein. lou: no one has been more -- i think we nd to say, no one stepped up sooner or spoke more directly than sheet as the head of t senate intellince committee. >> and i would say that general alexander has be doing a pretty darn good job. lou: by the way, i would agree with you. again, in that instance he is defending his agency. he is not -- i would -- i would

have expected to seek far more of our elected officials standing first for him and suddenly standing beside him in defending the agency and to me it has been remarkable, the potics, the transparent politics of all this. >> but i don't think we' going to change our modus opendi in any regard, and that think that the program will definitely continue. we may have to tighten up a little bit on somef our security procedures because house some of this information could get into the hands of peoole stationed inawaii or private manning who downloaded all that information in a remote area. i mean, this is really got t toe put to an end. this kind of leakage. lou: no doubt. ambassador kamal is good to talk with you. >> thank you. a pleasure. lou: fbi director, he is learning all sorts of things. apparently on capitol hill today

where he acknowledged for the first time that the fbi uses surveillance drones domestically . also proving to be something of a quick learner. last week he was unable to pride congss and the answers about the fbi criminal investigation into the irs political starting scandal. this time, however, he was able to tel the senate judiciary coittee that more than a dozen fbi agents are aigned to that ininvestigation. but unfortunately, he still could not offer congress an answer as to whether fbi agents had yet actuay spoken to the victims of i political starting. th irs, the focus of a major key party demonstrations and protests on the nation's capital. supporters calling for an audit of thers. that protest, coming the same

day that it is revealed the ininternal revenue service is about to pay out $70 million in employee bonus. needless to say, the news gave a lot of water for tea party members targeted by thers. >> government, the peoples grew up repeatedly, thenenial of responsibility and then have the gall to ask for more money and more responsibility. it is insane. lou: senator chuck grassley said the buses should be canceled outrig and now uer a white house order to cancel suc payouts because of sequestration . the irs, however, in its new leaders, arguing is legally required to hand the money over under a collective bargaing agreent with eloyees. the house of representatives is leading on the issue of immigration reform. the sate just doesn't know it.

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♪ lou: seven years ago congress, including then senator barack obama voted to build 700 miles of 2-tiered fenng along our 2,000-mile border with mexico. you might be interested to know that only 36 miles of that fence ha since been constructed. while the senate continues to vote down amendment after amendment on border security, including the gang of eight voting against border surity amendments, the grassley amendment, that the amendment, it gets more and more disappointing to those concerned

about border security first. we turn our attention back to the house of representatives, the judiciary committee passing its first immigration bill, this a fact, aimed at improving interior enforcement of our nation's immigration laws. joining us now, one of the sponsors of theeasure, ngressman, member of the judiciary committee, now in the midst of marking up the so-called ea act, and literally at this moment, a temporary agricultural guest worker program. congressman, also chairman of the subcommittee on immigration, member of the hoe oversight committee. we appreciate you taking the time t step out of the committee and the markup to bring us up-to-date. first, congratulations on moving this a fact from your committee. where u stand with the agricultural bill? >> well, we are moments away from votingn final passage of a guest worker program, which is the chairman's bill. that will pass, so we wl in the last two days have done what i think people expect us to do,

which is half hours a hours and hours of debate offer amendments, the victim, take votes. it is all done and in the open command people to -- people are free to agree disagree. we will have passed and internal security bill. you will have passed a guest worker bill, and that security has ready pasd their border security bill. so we are taking it step by step, but we have taken pretty important steps. lou: and important steps, and in contrast to the gang of eight legislation in the senate, quite surprisingly, i think, to some without that this was going to be aincere effort on the part of the gang of eight there, border security amndment after@ border security men and voted down and by the gang of eight which was supposed to be a bipartisan, if you will, construction. your reaction? >> well, i can tell you my experience, and i go back to

south carolina every weekend people are open-minded and other componentsf immigration reform , but border security is someone. and it is also number two and number three. now, 40 percent of the 11 million did not cross the bord. their visa overstays, so you have to have internal curity mechanisms. for national security reasons and dozed off of other you have to have a secure border command i can tell you that from the house perspective , genital fasano is not going to be the person to tell us whether or not the borders s. lou: no matter how much both the president and the members of the gang of eight and also, of urse the secretary would like to be. where do you stand with the e-verify program and how important a component is to what you and the chairman wants to achieve? >> it is essential. this whole reform package will

not succeed if you don't have e- verify. to the extent that jaws of the magnet that draws peopl here or causes them toverstay their visas, you have to be able to insure that yo work force is legal. ordinari i am not supportive of mandates from the federal government, but immration and naturalization is decidedly federal, andhe only way to insure a workplacehat is legal is with e-verify. it takes a couple of minutes. as a 99 percent success rate, and nothing else that we do has a 99 percent success rate. we have to have it. without e-rary the other parts like a guest worker and the internal security will work. >> as we watch this process unfold think we have to get chairman bob of law, congressman deadlock credit for taking on this incremental and thoughtful and careful approach to legislation. regular order and the way

business is supposedo be de on big issues in this country. do you -- what do you expect as you move forward here? do you believe that theehouse will be taking the point going forward? the gang of eight bill will preed? what are you expectations? is your leader supportive of the approach to you have taken? the thoughtful and delivered an incremental approach. >> he is. fact, he is insistent upon it, and he is both publicly and privately supportive of i i just passed him on the floor of the house. he came over and sho my arm like he does from time to time and says, youe doing a good job. his reference to that is to the entire judiciary committee. i appreciate you mentioning the chairman. is much more difficult to do it the way we're doing it. yesterday was an incredibly long day, but that is what people pay us to do.

to debate it and -- i.d. not think the speaker is going with the fiscal cliff, it was a sena bill that was dropped on the floor of the house. they did not have majority republican support. tennant think the speaker will let that happen. on the other side it is incumbent upon us with in the conservative movement and the republican conference to convce our colleagues onhe republic side tha the status quo is unacceptable. so those w who say, well, let's just d nothing so you don't go to conference with the senate, doing nothing is the current system which inspires confidence in absoly no one. lou: it is my sense that most americans -- if the issue of border security can be resolved will be open to a pathway to legallzation. we will leave open the issue of citizensp. but the democrats and this president who have -- and others before him to have gained the

issue of border secury, being recklessnd, i think, absolutelyowardly in putting the american sovereignty and our national security at risk, it is a difficult thing to watch. some of these senators in particular who are playing a mighty, mighty weak political games. >> where not going to be fooled again. we we fooled in 1986. we have been fooled before. we will not be fooled again. border sscurity as to be in place. internal securities. then you can have a conversation about showing the humanity tha many people, myself included, would like to show, but i'm not going to ask people to trust me in an environment where they don't trust anyone, and they should not trust anyone. and not going to ask and to trust me. i'm going to proveo them that we have the border secure and th internal security is in place and then the humanity and compassion of the american people will dictate what we do beyond that.

u: congressman, as always, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. take care. lou: now look at wall street. stocksoday selling off after the fed chairman said that they might just start tapering bond purchases. if theconomy continues to improve as it has, no one seems to like wt bernanke said except the shorts. the dow jones industrials experiencing its seventh straight triple digit move. its ninth 200-. swing in the last 20 days. toda falling 206 points. the s&p lost 23, the nasdaq down 40 call volume on t big board picking up to ree and a half billion share a day. gold up $7, closi at $1,374 per ounce. crude oil down $0.20 settling at $98.24 per barrel. in the bond mket the yield on the 10-year is soaring to over two and a half%, the highest since march of last year. stocks, bonds to our crude oil all down. gold up a little.

quite a day, quite a reaction. here tomorw, house judicia committee member joins us. we will discuss whether the attorney general should be charged with perjury. up next, the cbo scores the gang of eightmmigration bill pulling up some interesting numbers. some of which a gang of eight won't be talking about. but we will end the "chalk talk" next. stay with us. ♪ a friend under water is something completely different. i met a turtle friend today. avo: whatever you're looking for, expedia has more ways to help you find yours. from the united ates postal service a small design firm can ship like a big business. just go online to pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. we'll do the rest. ♪

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♪ >> in a time when nearly 14 percent of the american people do not have a full-time job, at a time when the middle class continues to disappear, it makes no sense to me that the immigration reform bill includes a massive increase off in temporary guest worker programs. lou: that is leral independent senator bernie sanders slamming the ng of eight immiation bill. unfortunately real concerns about that legislation are being drowned out by the spin from the white house, the gang of eight themselves and the mainssream liberal media. supporters of immigration reform are also outspending opponents

by more than three to one. t this. lobbyists have spend over one-half billion since the last time immigration reform legislation was moved to the senate. one-and-a-half billion dollars. that imore tn has been spent on any oer issue ove that time frame. think about it. one-and-a-half billion dollars in lobbying money well, the cbo came out withts coref the legislation, and is filled with gimmicks and conceals true costs for struggling americans over the next decade. i mean, it is shameless what has happened in the senate. it is disgusting that they still want to play games instead of deal with issues. now what you to just from me to all of you and the gang of age who are playing games and running a scam, i find you absolutely, frankly, just disgusting. let's take a look at the cbo

report for. the immigration bill, the immigration bill would cut deficits by $200 billion. not only are those numbers high suspicious, but they are to be reazed over the next decade if at all. the bill would not solve the illegal immigration. in fact, the congressional budget office acknowledges that 75% of the illegal immigration in this country right now will continue. so what is the gang of a bill about, i it will only reduce illegal immigration by 25 percent and you just watched the gang of eight vote down every major bord security men and. you don't need mh of a road p to understand what theye doing, what there is damning, and what they're gaining. the bill would pave t way to

add up an estimated 46 million new or legalized people to the united states overhe next 20 years. think about that. 46 milon. they keep talking about 11 million. well, the population right now is 314 million. tt would be one new immigrant as a result of this legislation for every six americans. if that mak sense to you, fine. thbill would actually raise unemployment according to the congressional buet office estimate through 2020. you don't hear the gang invaded knowledge that it be the congressional budget office estimates, and fact, that average wages in this c country uld fall by one-tenth of a percent of the first decade of the life of this legislation. maybe that is why senator sanders is so outraged. and why aren't others?

he is urging the democratic party to think twice about the legislation. of course, when you are working for other people like the gang of eight is, you don't have to think. you just have to follow orders. president oma callsor nuclear disarmament as he supports the fighting in syria. fox national security analyst katie mcfarlane and former general david grainger on the general david grainger on the obama strategy. with fidelity's options platform, we've completely integrated every step of the process, making it easier to try filterand strategies... to get a list of equity options... evaluate them with our p&l calcular. and execute faster with our more intuitive trade ticket. i'm greg stevens, and i helped create fidelity's options platform. it's one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 0 free trades when you open an account.

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♪ lou: breaking news. the national center has just issuedultiple warnings for the gulf of mexico after the tropical storm . the second main storm of this hurricane season is expected to make land fall in mexico thursday morning. the storm is currently 75 miles east of veracruz.

sustained 40 baht t 540 miles-pehourinds moving west as peter ten miles-perour. returning to the president trip toerlin, the president refused to specify the exact nature of the militaryid to sy rebels saying reports suggesting the united states is heading into a new warre, as he put it, overplaying. joining me now, former pentagon official, fox's national security analyst. general david grainger retired u.s. army brigadier general, former commander of the first-ever entry division, combat veteran, action in vietnam, granada, yugoslavia, good to have you both with u let me start with the president's performance in berlin today. it was as if i could hear come on around the globe as the president spoke. ur reactn? >> the ever shrinking obama presidency. you know, berli is where presidents go to make great historic speeches. john f. kennedy, ronald reagan.

and now barack obama, and there was nothing there. it was just a lot of platitudes. the only thing he said of any significance was tt he was going to unilaterally cut u.s. nuclear forces and then hopefully gotiate with the russians to maybe get their arsenal. i say to that fat chance. lou: general. >> well, i think it has to be a trade-off you're going to reduce tte nuclear force, but if it is done and it may be a cave as long as three conditions are maintained, one i that you maintain a very robust, modernized, defensive nuclear capability. missil shield. for yourself and your allies. the other is that you maintain air, sea, a land attack capability. modernized incding advanced bunker busting types subterranean munitions and others that are needed in today's modn battlefield, and those that you think you're going to move into in the future. if those conditions are met then a third reductiomay not

matter. lou: and this possible reduction, the russians immeately dismiss it because of the president's own initiative in building u. missile defenses. ey said he cannot be taken seriously. this sounds like a nonstarter and that the president might be well served not to negotiate with the russians as they're not interested. >> the russians always knew our missile defenses. it really makes them go -- when prident reagatried to talk about star warshe one and a stop. ultimaly our insisnce on a was probably what broke the camel's back in the collapse of the civil -- soviet union, so that is theirs or sticking point. whether obama will be able to negotiate, the body language, those guys can't even stand to be in the me room. lou: general syria, the idea that president obama in just move support for the syrians, now amounts to about 800 million, me than half of

that committed in the laso months of what has been a 2-year-long civil war. where are we headed with this? what are yourhoughts as tte president obviously wants to advance, in some ways, u.s. involvement in the conflict? >> wel you have three choices. do nothing, and i don't think the united states of america is in a position to make that choice. support the current regime which we cannot do obviously because e brutality of it and the support of the regime in particular. or you support the iurgent groups. the trouble with supporting insurgent groups is which groups? the moderates or extrests? when you make that choice you have to liv with the consequences after the fight. so if the regime falls, are those groups going to turn your? and that is the second effect of the risk analysis that is very tough. i know what i would do, and tha

woulbe to support moderate insurgent groups. the problem with that is the moderatensurgent groups are by far the minority. there the least well-armed, the t well-organized, and they are the least powerful. i just spe a week i israel and was on the syrian border with the rebel forces are fighting the syrian forces. athis point i think it is a choice between, as the general said, the chemical weapons using murderous government or the rebels, and the rebels are, for the most part, affiliated with teorists. despite if you have two enemies fighting and trying to kill each other, i don't think the united states needs to get in the middle of it. lou: tha we share with you both in the audience the latest fox ws poll. i think it has surprised president obama. i'm sure many people. cording to our latest f news poll, most disagree with president obama and say that the war on terrismmis not over.

and i am not talking about a small majority. we're tking about7 percent consider the want chair as bng ongoing and a top priority. e united states in taking military action in this instance 72 percent say take military action. 70 percent oppose taking action in syria. 72 percent say they support the united states taking military action against the iranians to prevented from getting nukes. the point being, the focus of u.s.nterest there is a iran come and it could be a colossal disaster, could it not, for the united states to forget wre its interest is focused? >> i agree with that, and, again, it is a tough decision on risk analysis. military support comes in a lot of different options. it is not just weapons. a lot of commandnd-control communications.

and you can do a lot of things not only overtly, but covertly with her probably are and should can be against has block, against surrogate trainer. a lot of ways to do this. i think you pick up the pressure , but you d it very finely in tarted actions. lou: the last word. >> nuclear-weapons will be the defining issue of the presidency. so far he has not stopped them. thank you, general. much. appreciated. >> cirque. lou: taka second to go to our social sites. go to foxbusiness.com. funneling star facebook page. e-mail me. all of your thoughts, comments, suggestions. follow me on twitter. up next, federal rerve chairman speaks and the market does not like it. wall strt veteran joins us nnxt. ♪

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♪ lou: well, watching ben bernanke today, and not my people like what they heard. interest rat remaining the same. $85 billion per month bond purchases. it is all good. maybe a little tapering later in the year. the market sell-off that followed the fed chairman's news conference, rather dramatic. easy money that we are talking about isot likely to continue. we are joined by har eisen who has the perspective, the inde to offer us why in the world after erything that the fed chairma said. >> number one, the market is with reality, now what nonsense. bernanke is finishe it's over. we talked about this on your show before. lou: the president made it very

clear in his interview. >> probably watched the show. lou: i'm sure he did. i wish you would take on some otr ideas. he is finished. the fed chairman knows nothing but positive this. why in the world with the market want to react as it did? >> because -- this is an inflection point. the reality is that the crisis is over and he is still dling with it likt is the crisis was it -- whi is madness. they'reegoing to be mind the first thing is the bond market. dow made a new hiih in yields. this is just the beginning of the party. lou: having a f because a 30-year bull market may be over. >> and nice guy. lou: a great guy. >> but he is taking his victory lap. lou: a the shorts may have

been excited. weave peopl remans talking about, oh, my goodness, bernanke, happens now? >> the markets faiyalued if you take the historic multiple of 15 or 16 times $10 estimate. so you're there. number two, the market is a monster bubble. therefore when it begins to elapse, which i think it has started, it'soi to be devastating. lou: dastating to people in the bond market. what about people and equities? >> equities have already signaled a change. so equities in t last 30 days in the market has shifted to

cyicals and technology a financials and away from a lot of the other stuff. for now is a big cnge. lou: a big change command inflection point, and you see positive things for the equities market. negative things for the bond market. >> i see positive things in the sense that the market is going to be a carry. you probably have seen most of it's not all of the gains for the year. short term the markeis going to be sck. willlam l. -- rally before the end of the year, but this is the fifth year marketssare up 150%. you have not had gdp growth of 3% in 6 years. smething has to give. lou: we will see what does. always great to see you. thank you for being with us. >> short. lou: up next, one florida international university professor coins the fate -- frays forced fatherhood.

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♪ lou: well, joining me now, a %-institute, the author of manng up how the rise of women has turned mennto boys. and it is great to have you back with us. and we want to talk about these relationships between men and women in the workplace, our society. also, wanto talk about tonight the new york t times op-ed alted by a professor and florida

international. is forced father with fair? a provocative article where maine, she asserts, have some considerable more balanced rights of women. your thougs? >> she is really reflecting, speaking to a change in our situation, the situation between men and women. in a world where you have casual sex widely aepted, abortion, of legal. single motherhood is widy accepted. it really does pose a lot of questions about what the response will the role is for men and their relationship, b think that is where she is reporting to and fanatically explore. she is definitely speaking to a dilemma that is raised by a lot of changes in our understanding of marriage and children. lou: marriage, the lowest

marriage rate by the most recent count in the country's history. the second part of it is coming is a class divide as well. more affent people and burying. their divorce unless. they're having children gridlock you know, those who are disadvantaged are not. it is a real dividing the country. lou: it is interesting that though we always hear that marriage rat are at their lowest, and it is true they have gone down, actually, 80 percent of women will marry at some point or do marry at some point. 80 percent to is the large jority. the interesting thing is that so many women now marry after they have their children annot necessarily to the fher of their children. that is the part of this that i think a lot of people don't understand.

particularly among the lower income and working-class folks that you were just referring to, you are more likely to see women and men have their children when they are in their early to mid 20's but then put off marriage and tell their late 20's or possibly even 30's. lou: is that a trend that uc extended to the point that it will become a majority, if you will, behavior in our society? >> i think it is a conrn. the reason, though, i believe tat people who are more educated to marry before they have children isecau they know what is better for the kids, even thoug they don't alys actually admit that. they just think it is right. so i think they know on some level that kids are better off when there is a stable situation, when the da is there and hopefully will stay there. lou: where is the family, which

has always been the foundation of our society? we had this sense thatur societ is dissolving around us in some ways, certainly the churches are ebbing in their influence, our legal profession is not held in the same regard. congress has a 10 percent approval rating. we are a society right now that is under assault. we don't know qte yet what the motives are or who the culprit are, but we sure know who the vict are. >> in the case of the famil this goes back some 40, 50 years. there are so many culprits that it would be impossible to even less than. we are all pticipants at the very least. lou:ero is here to see you. we look forward to continuing our conversation. thank you so mh. >> thank you. lou: that is it for us.

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