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>> now it is time for john stossel. >> do you want to have a drink? a cigarette? make a bet. a lot of people want to keep here, protect you from yourself. the church of england wted to purify the church. also, they were big on individuals with pleasure and luxury being sinful. that is actually someone else's wife and i in hat case they

were put to death. their new campaigns against all sorts of other vices. let's start with the law most all of you say is good and needed. the law against drun driving. drunk drivers kill her into the federal government with a hard limit on how much alcol you could have your blood. is it set at the right level? i asked special correspondent nnedy to drink and drive. >> we are going to gothrough the course sober and then with alcol and have you tried the drunk. >> it is my dream come true. >> under the supervision of the los angeles county sheriff's office, she d no trouble driving between cones and parking between them. >> let the games begin. >> she drank a mimosa and th a tequila and then another mimosa. >> it is really shocking how little alcohol takes you to be

considered junk. >> kennedy is not much of a drinker. it was clear she was feeling it. john: the detective gave her the breathalyzer test. >> she was ata .043. >>m i drunk? >> no, anything under 805 is not der the influence. joon: but she was feeling it leaves the buzz. >> buzzed driving is drunk driving, don't do it. john: that kennedy did it, and she did pretty well. watching her driving, you would not know that she was impaired. so she drank more. >> that was more than i er drink in my life.

>> definitely impairment there. do you see her slain? john: this time she flunked the breathalyzer test, as well as the walking the line test. and when she drove, she was a mess. >> okay, there is a tone. >> there's definitely impairment there. definitely she would be going to jail. >> you have sobered up. what have you learned? >> i learned that i felt more drunk than i actually was. after three drinks whei took the second breathalyzer, i felt hammered. i would never have gotten in the car. i was shocked that i only blew th much. >> that you could be different

from normal people. you are not a drinker. >> i drink a little bit. i am definitely a moderate drinker. seven drinks to considered junk? >> we should be clear to t audience what the government calls a drink is 1.5 ounces. >> it would've been 4 ounces of champagne and 1.5 ounces of tequila orard alcohol. so what you think is one drink could actually be closer to two. when you are r dris then, you sometimes think you have only had a couple. that is when people have problems. >> the government has limit and they keep playg with it, changing it. the pressure is always tighter and tighter. you live in los angeleshere th have a lot of these checkpoints looking for drunk drivers and you become skeptical. >> yes, i'm skeptical after this because i realize that it really

is drinking twiceas much in some cases, th could hdle a car twice as well as i could somecases. john: checkpoint have unintended consequences. >> they do. you are taking one horseman off the street on busy holidays. but now people are using social media to let other drivers know where the checkpoints are. so critics say that encouraging people to drive drunk, others say no, it actually tells ou. there are those out there that they do not drink and drive..3 john: let's go back t the controversy over the legal blood alcohol level and what should it be. it is currently .08 dwn from the earlie limit of10. now, the fed does it is .05. the police e eager to punish drunk drivers. >> there is no way to hide it. if you drive drunk, cops

everywhere are stepping up enforcement in tracking you down like never beore. >> overwhelmingly, americans support ths. but as journalist says if we really care about road safety and saving lives, we should abolish drunk driving laws. so wat? >> well, the idea i not to encourage drunk driving, id is to improve highway safety and make the roads safer. i think that you do that by attackinreckless dring and3 not whatever it was that was causing the reckless dving to begin with. my problem is saying tht it should be legal to have alcohol in your system while ou are behind the wheel, even if you're no ding anything wrong. only way you can enforce that is through these intrusive measures, including having cops draw blood on the sidef the road or these chckpoints.

so my point is that we should focus on the distraction. john: the government says that sleep deprivation can be amuch of a cause or more than alcohol. also having the kids in the backseat. the gps, eating. >> my blood alcohol is .81. they are driving home at night. they get pulled over because, you know, they are driving at 2:00 a.m. and maybe they do rolling stop instead of coming to a complete stop stop si. basically, you know, it ruins their lives a lot of ways. they can be severely impacted. you get the fines come you have to go to alcohol rehab classes.

and th you get a person who hasn'tlept in a long time and may be a truck driver isn't here because of the lack of sleep. do not truck driver blows a red light and hit somebody. that level of distraction is actually wrse than most. that person is not going to ge the same sort of punishment that the drunk driver gets. point is that it should be the ecklessness and if you want to tac on extra penalties because someone was drunk ater you get them forrwhatever infraction they committed, that is anoer story. as kennedy pointe out, when the federal government lowered the national bod lcohol level from the minimum levvel to .102.18, it had been in steep deine for about 20 years. i think a good explanation for th would be that hen groups

like mothers against drunk driving put on these massive public relations campgn, saying that this is not a joke anymore. it was sort of amusing back in the day to see someone stumbling, they were successful and they change public advocacy about it. i think that has a lot more effect o the drop in fatalies than changing the laws to more aggressive enforcement. john: so let's bing jt griffin into oursudio. what bradley is saying is that it's workflow close to the campaign. not your law. >> no, that is not true at all. bringing down the fatalities is actually strong law enforcement coupled with strong laws that are shown to bring down fatalities, especially in regd to drunk driving. what he aid about it is true.

highway fatalities involving drunk drivers have fallen by ov 50%. that is due to strong laws that have been worked to pass. jo: i don't see how you know that. >> well, you can look at the laws that have been stued. things like the .08, the zero-tolerance. right now we have a new campaign to eliminate dru driving, which based on all convicted drunk drivers, support for checkpoints and advanced technology that we think could actually stop a drunk driver from operating his or her vehicle. he wants a test of the guys drunk and you couldn't start the car? >> but sometimes it would misfire and sober people wouldn't get too dry. what the passenger is drun

>> theechnology is being developed to focus on the passenger and the driver. it is being blamed for a third of all highway atalities. john: drunk driving is involved, meaning afterwards we found alcohol, but it didn't necessarily mean it was caused by that. >> i thk that you can look at what is happening across the country. can see th it is a cause. we know that when someone is active, it is one of the most studied health laws in the country in the worl. we know that wn someone is at .08, they are too impaired to drive. john: bradley? last questio? >> those are alcohol reled fatalities. that is often interchanged with drunk driving fatalities. alcohol-related just means that somebody involved in te accident had alcohol in her syem and it doesn't necessarmean that someone was drunk or over the legal

limit. >> you cantest if they have cohol in her system. you can't test if they are yelling at the kids were stggling with the dog in the car. it is harder to measure. thank you both for being here. up next, i like to gamble, but some politicians want that band. >> if your kids gamble, they are three or four more times to steal or get in trouble with the law. john: oh, my goodness. while my gambling make it worse? we will debate it coming up next

>> what do you think? [cheers] john: i like to gamble, that is my piodic poker ame. but i'd bet on all kinds f thgs, politics, sports, which green job will drop faster. fortunately, in my state, that kind of social gambling is legal. in mos of america, organized gambling is banned. and internet gambling is banned.

as one u.s. senator put it, it is the crackocaine of gambling. i thought they were supposed to take protections with the u.s. department of homeland security and not be involved in gambling. our next guest says that he has testified bfore congress on what gambling, especially internet gambling, why uiet muste banned. why is that?

>> we are not talking about it we liertarian issue. we are talking about fun and games. john: shouldn't people be fun and free? >> i like to play games. everyone likes to play games. that we are talking about a potential of serious and strategic and economic national security issues. john: i think this is politicians that want to control people how is national security at risk? >> it is the economic national security issue. widespre internet gambling would do exactly wt the to commodity futures did when the eliminated all the anti-gmbling for wall street.

because the debacle that we had four years ago. widespread intnet gambling destabilize financial systems, economic systems it created a huge speculative bubble. it would look great for a while. but thent would all collapse. john: michelle, this argument seems interesting to me >> this isn't a fun and games issue. i agree with that. adults should be ableopend their money as long as they are not harming aother person if

you look at gambling in this country, it is less than 1%. and even if you had internet gambling come i don't see how this could increase that much to the poin of a crisis of the professor is talking about. john: the public service announcements to try to coey what john is orried about. >> i tried to persuade him, i try to help them. >> if your kids gamble, they are playing more than just games. they are more than likely to drink and use ugs. john: give me a break.

people already have a more adventurousystem. >> to some extent, i would agree with you on that. but the way to think about this the study showed that when you have gambling facilities, electronic gambling in paicular, which is what the udy commission caed new addictive gambling, akin to crack and cocaine, when he put this on the intern, it will be at every school desk wo best and cell phone. john: michelle, do you say that this is entertainment? just likewhat is in the moe? >> there are benefits way beyond just the entertainment factor of gambling. especially especially we are talking about poker. it is social, it helps you run statistical analysis. i think some kids could benefit

greatly by playing games like por that encourage focus and strategic thinking. >> we are talking about how this is supported by the nation gambling study commission. the 2006 unlawful internet gambling enforcement act. with ver 80% in the house. >> i get it. the politicians don't want us to do that. d they get to use forc thank you, john and michelle. a similar debate about paying for sex. most amerins say that this is bad.

jo: should there be restrictions on violent video games? >> are videogames video games to blame for gun violence in this

>>, on. too bad for you. john: from a popular video game but couldn't turn them into killers? whenever there is a mass shooting people say violent video games probably inspired it. >> these are people who have be trained on video games the industry is just like the tobacco industry when theyailed to see there was a connection between smoking cigarettes and cancer. >> they have encouraged the killing of innocent people for sport. john: senato grassley from

iowa and he is right said the son of billy graham the took over his father's ministry. y is he right? >> fit of all,, god understands violence. his son jesus christ was nailed to a tree for our sins and god understands violence. we see it all around us b in our country over the last 30 or 40 years, of violenc has come into our homes in the form of entertainment. when i was growing up, it was gunsmoke every timee pulled out his gun to protect life and the good guy always one but it is a r cry from the video games of today.

and then to mak a glorified john: day want to ban them? >> we have a constitution to do that but we certainly c x them. andlcohol why not violence do give e money to t people who are the victims? john: the head of the nra agrees tha video games business is a corrupt industry thatells violence agait his own people through vicious and volent videogames is an fantasizing about killingg people to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography? john: he is right to dend ben ight's but there is no good evidence i pushed back

to both of you. iave had the guns all my life i got my first one in ni years old. everyone i grew up with had begun. we did not shoot people. and they want to dress like the actors theyee on tv or the video games in the arm emselves and gout and commit killings. it is sick and it is the crime our entire nation. john: nono, no. you talk about all this stuff coming into our homes over the past 30 or 40 years. you are righ much more violence but crime is down. maybe it is good for kids. we don't know. >> i would say it is not good for anybody.

these video games are murder stimulators. >> in japan they watch twice as many videogames can fire arm death in the united states and it causes people. >> vendor stand what you are saying and i agree that we do need evidence we do need a national study but we don't have one as far as i know. the press -- president and congress need to find a way to curb violence. itis an epidemic in our country and how to restock this? we need god's help. we really do. john: the villain was the

comic-book the senate claimed it was causing juvenile delinency and forensic scientists said one comic per month sadistic fantasies for kids. that was superman. >> i don't know. maybe those books did have a negative impact. i don't know our government is not focusi on that john: much more studies could we have that they are more popular and crime is down? but thank you. we move from violence to sex they can go on date c do it but if the

john: i wanto discourage a moral behavior but how shld it be done? it is okay with friends and family, friends, but government? it is force you are not moral if you stay away from san only becse it is ilgal and the law ns things like drugs or sex don't stop them from happeng often they cause new problemsecause they create a black market. some politicians saythey will not ban t activity but just tax and that is -hat billy grahas son said he wants to do to nudge people to good behavior but michael thomas says that is a bad idea he authored a study of the syntax. >> one of the obama as advisers has said libertarians should be 0k it is better than banning3

thing. >> it is still paternalism when you go from prohibition that is bad it creates a black market then we go to lou taxing that also causes a black market s this was to be an alternative b it is a contradiction of terms. john and it causes problems india's people it incentive to break the law. >> the new was black market not drugs but cigarettes. john:eople smuggle cigarettes and in my state the tax alone is $5.34 per pack and that makes for the $11 a pack the taxation and used to collect cigarette packs and most of them were illegal? >> they went to pick up cigarette packs all over the year accidie but 61 percent had no taxthe about all or we're from another state.

john: my mayoraid you cannot buy soda in bottles this big the court has stopped him but it is just as much sugar in apple juice >> the idea is the harm coming from the suga you want to tax that you would change behavior by people could get anywhere they once and that is called substitutes in economics. >> indiana forces convenience stores to sell beer that is warm. >> they say if the kid see the bier in the cooler and next to the coup they then they will somehow equate the to goalking by it in the aisle when it is warm does not ha the same impact. >> a then you n't drink it in the car? >> people that are highly motivated to drink i don't think theywill be discouraged and those of patients by it ahead of time. john: with the steady what

is the bottom line >> itis certainly an improvement over prohibition but it would be better to educate to give people a choi. john: monday is okay in america and sex for many is forbidde working at the moonlite bunnyranch one of zero legal brothels america. dennis hof is her bos. >> you are a pimp. >> i have a license. john: you are a licensed tampa

john: sex for many or prostitution is legal in much of th world but not america if the woman wants to be paid for sex the police could locker up in reporters say this. >> te may be the safest place the high and hookers have never be. john: really? the safest place they have never been? i doubt that. also where it is legal there is ltle danger. here in vada it is safe. >> if we have a problem the sheriff comes. john: brooke taylor joins us

now along with her friend to works out moonlite bunnyranch owned by dennis hof. is legal in las vegas with the rest it is not? >> from virginia city until 1972 but then they tell us we don't wan it in las vegas or read note of population of since it is the and a 15 year-old counties. john: so you have your brothel the moonlite bunnyranch and 500 licensed sex workers. john: 50 working at a time. this is disgusting to people >> to view? we have a right. a hypocrite politicians would wake up every state would have a moonlite bunnyranch john: you are selling your body. that just feels sleazy and demeaning to people.

>> really i.m. renting get. i still owe myself. the beauty is that i could live my life basedon my rals and values. john: only a few counties of nevada. >> i moved from the midwest to do it within the confines of the loss of my choices are on me. i don't find it disgusting i can respect somebody else's opinion but i don't tell them what to do with their body. john: krissy summer i am told to do because you don't have other options. >> i have a double major from university of miss it -- michigan. year both college graduates. i could leave tomorrow and be fined. but before i came to the bunny ranch my student loans almost went in defafault so i contacted dennis. why not? john: is gross. >> is completely safe. >> to some people. that is the biggest problem

that we've you sexuality as being gros and it is not. hn: payi for it is. >> to some but not to all. if it was arrested everyone we wouldn't be in business. john: let's bring in an opponent. red tecce who used to be a prosecutor in philadelphia at. you have heard these women. how are they wrong? >> i will not judge th but as a precutor and someone who has done as i think the law should make it more difficuut outside of where they are to make it illegal. >> i appreciate that. because i dislike is legal prostitution that is your frame of reference but people will do this and tried to google's search philadelphia trafficking and we don't have them in the county where it is legal in nevada becae the men ha a place to go instead of getting

with illegal trafficking typically with underage children. john: that is a good point*. it doesn't make it go away. >> people will killeople but. john: that is a big difference that is taking away somebody else's freedom >> it will help then one negative owe have bebeen one where the other vehicle like drugs or pimp if they take the money they put it back into other criminal enterpses more than anybody. >> i hear wh you say that is the same argument about @%galizing drugs. john: what about alcohol? go back to prohibition. >> exactly. with ose illegal operations should be shut down. and i will tel you i don't need business guys. i could walk into a woman's prison. >> but you couldt the but

the ranch. >> i hear you. but to make it legal is to add the temptation for anybod out there to regain to an ever they want. john: shoull we restore prohibition? >> no. john: i wod think it is the samergument that we are out of time. [laughter] >> come visit us. john: a new law mandates that porn stars must wear condoms. th this protect people with just anotherumb idea from the puritans? to make that will likely explain

john: paying 49 is illeg but paying to watch it is no pornography is a huge business and for yrs it was centered in los angeles but that has changed because last year was thengeles passed a law requiring all porn stars to wear condoms. that is a great thing says professor of public health at ucla, a dr. jeffrey klausner. ul cambria represents those companies that make the form. -- born. >> superficially it sounds logical but the problem is in the past there was testing involved in los

angeles, rigorous testing of all adult porn stars. john: for sexually transmitted diseases? >> no ca of hiv. not since 2004. what is happening now instead of having a testing process that makes sense with rules and regulaons they have driven the business underground or to other stas with no rules. if the goal was to protect the workers it is the opposite result. >> the custors don't want to watch sex films ready actors wear condoms? >> no doubt. after the initial aids scare and a number of companies went to condoms and over 30 percent of the market disappeared. john: what about that? it sounds like you're moving

it to other places and found that 25 percent of all adult workers so the current tear it testing system is not adequate and it is the legal industry in ople and makingoney off the workers activities than they are continuouuly being eosed on a daily basis but as part of a reasonable approach there is the additional measures to prote the health of the worker. >> the industry has a lesser percentage of its tv than the population as a whole. >> that is cpletely false. >> as a result of testing testing, he has no statistics that demonstrate that any of these diseases

are occurring as a resu of the adult industry. they may be discovered of those itia industry and the population as a whole and do they gee them in their private life? he tries to make it look ke they got them with the adult industry. that did not happen. t they have moved out of california so the protections thatere there areone. john: that doesn't seem to solve much but we have this clip. that could likely explain the film boom in ventura county. 90% of it is shot in sid fernandez valley bringing in $30 billion ofevenue. -ohn they thk it just makes people better but people of los angeles are losing money. >> 57% of thooe approd so the people of fosse

angeles said we want condoms in our adult films to protect workers and it went to the people. this is government for the people and by the people. john: so what? it is not a tyranny of the people in white jaakets should be incarcerated? should we have the freedom to take her own risk? >> the option is that it could d.c. area and sinesses need to comply with the law had to protect when it moves to a different place? >> that is the choice industry but there is talent of us angeles a resources and ut effortby the industry to scare people but

it will continue and thrived and i am sure it will stay and try en los angeles. john: debut. to sots what people call s and from the mous dead people. ralph waldo emerson wrote that which we call sid and others is an experiment for us. john: experents are good we wanmore of that. another way as when we have too many laws and italy is hurting oohers all others are invented nonsense. he is right. for those who should have no bias again assaulting people? no. th libertarians don't say no bob.

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