before you give in, remember the highest ever mortgage rate back in early october of '81. 18.86%. things could be worse. have a great weekend. lou: good evening, everybody, and thank you for being with us. breaking news tonight, federal prosecutors have filed charges against nsa weaker edward snowden. they have charged snowden with espionage, theft and conversion of government property. a jurisdiction with a long history of prosecuting espionage cases must warn the developing story throughout the broadcast. and the president officially nominated this man to replace robert mueller to head the

bureau of investigations. president obama tapping former deputy attorney general who served under president george w. bush taking over the fbi, the white house going with the man who has a story they believe they can sell to the senate in the confirmation process. president obama: the key moments when it mattered most he joined bob standing up in what he believed was right prepared to give up the job he loves rather than being a part of something he felt was fundamentally wrong. we know the rule of law sets the nation apart and is its foundation. lou: president obama referring to an incident in 2004 when he was filling in for a severely ill attorney general john ashcroft. while he was hospitalized, he refused to reauthorize the controversial eavesdropping program implemented after september 11. while citing concerns over its legality. but the principal hero in the

instant certainly was a man hated and reviled by most of the left. the refusal chief of staff and white house counsel gonzales tried to make an end run. going to the hospital bed trying to pressure him into overruling his deputy. he refused to do so. and the next day president george w. bush agreed to change the program amid the department of justice's concern over legality. his resume includes a stand of u.s. attorne attorney for the sn district of new york, and reports he was considered by the obama administration in 2009 as a potential replacement on the supreme court. he did stand up to president bush men even threatening to resign back in 2004 if they didn't back down, but ultimately the decision was made by his superior, attorney general john

ashcroft. they store the obama administration will continue to try and sell until their man is confirmed leaving out arguably the most important actor in it all. one of his first tasks will be to explain to congress and the american people the fbi's use of the aerial drones on american soil. outgoing fbi director robert mueller admitted in testimony this week the agency has employed drones here at home. fox news has uncovered new details of the fbi grown use. chief intelligence correspondent with our report. report back to heavily redacted documents released by the faa after a freedom of information request by california privacy groups show the fbi applied for and got permission at least four times since 2009 to fly surveillance drones in this country. speak to the fact they are heavily redacted is incredibly

significant showing the culture of secrecy in the way the drones are ooerated in the united states. >> revealing they are flying a drone while referring specific questions to the fbi the california manufacturer told fox it is highly portable carries a color and thermal videocamera to send live surveillance data to its operator with a two-hour flight limit. earlier this week fbi director robert mueller went on the record. speaker does the fbi currently use our own drones and if so, for what purpose? >> yes, for surveillance. >> 's real estate a gathered within the u.s., he says it is a work in progress. >> we are exploring not only the use, but also the necessary guidelines for that. it the fbi confirms the usef

drones. the fbi emphasized the use of uavs by existing aircraft regulations and faa rules. we are in business of investigating crimes and protecting lives using all lawful tools available. but with the publicly available tools, surveillance data could be combined with other collection programs including the nsa. >> as you get more data points you can make more inferences and for more analytics which tells you a very robust picture about a person's life that you wouldn't necessarily consider from each individual point of information. >> electronic frontier foundation, the group that got the documents to the freedom of information actttold fox in a statement the fbi trust the approach is far from sufficient same the faa has no real policies that guarantee the protection of privacy and civil liberties. lou: catherine, thank you very

much. fox news chief intelligence correspondent. the white house tonight saying 700 of our combat troops will remaii in jordan following a training exercise their joining 250 troops that were already in the country. president obama in a letter to congress says the troops will remain until the security situation becomes such that they are no longer needed. joining us tonight, retired four-star army general army vice chief of staff, fox's military analyst, general, thing thanks r being with us. the genera general is kind enoue up very late in london, we are delighted to have you with us. >> glad to be here. lou: let's turn to the troops in jordan. it is your sense this is a force that is going to be augmented, that is we are going to be raising the number of troops in

that region over the weeks and months ahead? >> i think it certainly has the potential for that as our invollement begins to increase in syria, something we have very large concerns about jordan as you well know, there is a major refugee problem in jordan, unrest in the country itself and many feel jordan is months away from serious issues itself. the mission primarily right now is to facilitate the training of rebels have been doing in jordan to also help the organization with the refugee challenges and certainly to be prepared as we expand our role inside syria. they would help facilitate support for the rebels inside of syria. lou: it appears the administration is starting to

build up a contingency, it is giving every signal it seems at this point no matter how low-key there is an intense to intervene in the civil war. is this in your judgment and appropriate direction for you as strategy in the region and how likely is it in your view again that we will engage with iraq? >> quite frankly i have strong feelings we should have an involved in the syria uprising right from the outset trying to assist the moderate rebels trying to depose the regime dictated to be sure people wanting to risk their lives, i am not suggesting we do that and he plays it happens in the world but i do believe our national interest are at stake in the middle east in terms of stability and also countering most importantly the iranian

influence seeking hegemony and the sheer crest of influence in lebanon, syria and iraq. syria means everything to the iranians, that is why they are all in. i do believe we should on the rebels with the weapons they desperately need. we have vetted groups through the cia we have some confidence we can do this without the weapons falling into radical islamist hands. i think it is a risk that is prudent that we can take. i do believe we can shut down the airpower, which has enabled him to gain the momentum he has. that means shutting down his airfields, his airplanes, support air operations, fuel source, supplies, et cetera. we can do that using cruise missiles and stealth bommers without having to deal with his integrated air defense system.

those are reasonable approaches that would change the momentum rather dramatically and put it back in the hands of the rebels. right now we are heading toward regional war that is spilling over into lebanon and next will spill over into jordan and something we clearly dd not wann. lou: here at home the white house absolutely engulfed in scandal, the nsa now has the leaker edward snowden who has turned over secrets. said the damage is serious and substantial. today the justice department filing espionage charges against snowden. he will no longer be called a leaker, he is now charged with espionage. what is your opinion in the way the president has defended the

nsa. alexander has appeared before congress. the last hearing with the house intelligence committee it seemed that the voices had reduced their volume far more as i said it at the time, far more mature in their questioning. they understood one of those standing between us and enemies rather than the person who should be the focal point of the criticism and political attacks. >> absolutely. alexander is the most accomplished officer i have ever had the privilege to know. worked with him close to 20 years, quite remarkable, clearly has interest of the country at heart. he is voluntarily leaving after eight years, they want him to stay on longer.

his credibility is significant. has more members of congress truly become advised of what this program is, how it does protect us, and also the protections in the program about the american people's privacy as more congressmen and senators gained the appreciation he said the support will continue to grow. no doubt in my mind these programs will continue, i do not see the congress even modifying these programs because they are so critical to our security. we are gathering in invisible enemy with no arry, no navy, no air force, it attacks us using the weapon of surprise primarily and the attacks are agaanst citizens. even human intelligence is not very helpful. overhead surveillance, we get some information but the

overwhelming amount of valuable intelligence upon which we can take actions comes from electronic surveillance which means we listen to their phone conversations, we connect the dots with who they are talking to and figure out who is in the network and we read who the e-mail traffic with members outside the network. it is essential to do that if we are going to be successful with them, and we have been quite successful using those techniques. lou: thank you for being with us, good talking to you, and thank you for staying up so late there in london. >> take care, look forward to seeing you. lou: now the latest on us in its immigration reform, the gang of eight proposal bipartisan amendment callin calling for the doubling of four virtual agents was filed this afternoon. the first on this amendment sponsored will be held monday

afternoon, a closer vote to be held as of now at 5:30 eastern time monday. something to consider, the gang of eight bill is more than 1000 pages in length. that is more than 2200 pages total. obamacare, just about 2300 pages. wall street wrapping uppthe worst week of the year. forbes media chairman tells us what the bernanke rally is over for good and if we can really blame whatever this is on bernanke. with the spark mil card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewas for his small business

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lou: on wall street stocks putting an end to two days of heavy losses, volatile trading session, the dow up 41 points, s&p gained. five and a half billion shares, heaviest trading day since november of 2011. people are getting serious now. the dow, s&p and the nasdaq losing 10% on the week. the loss of about $425 billion in market cap. a federal judge today reducing the prison sentence of former enron ceo to 14 years. part of a deal with prosecutors jeffrey skilling convicted in 2006 for lying to investors for insider trading. he was sentenced to 24 years. he will also have to come up with $42 million in restitution as part of the deal. gold posting sharp losses, but gaining $6 today to close at

$1292 per ounce. crude oil settling at 93.69. the yield on the 10-year 2.51% post in the largest weekly gain in four years. the sooner the fed pays it out, presses on buying. hurting the economy more than it has helped. editor-in-chief steve forbes, great to have you with us. qe appears to be at an end, sort of. $85 billion continues, the rates are moving higher, so that will be problematic. your thoughts on the timing on all of this by the fed chairman. >> three years late, better late than never, what ben bernanke has done inadvertently this make it easier for the government to deficit spending, get back on

their feet, issue new bonds but for the rest of the economy, smaller businesses like with what they said in russia, health care is free but you can't get any. they are the job creators, they are hurt by what bernanke did. not much left for the small guys. lou: a lot of limited government, some of them are anti-fed. oh, my gosh, we cannot conclude it a $5 billion per month. i do not like what he has done, bbt don't let him reverse course here. there is a chorus of hypocrisy in pleading for more punch bowl, please. >> it is hard to give up when you have it. bernanke will not do this precipitously, will not do it rapidly. the market has grossly overreacted that they reacted because they finally realized

this might be coming to an end sooner we thought it would go ttrough 2015, 2016, 22nd century, who knows. the punch bowl is being taken away. but remember the stock market has had a great run. the market has gone nowhere, so the end of the day what this has done is hurt the recovery. one of the reasons we have had the most in history. lou: as we watch this adjustment away from accommodation, call it what would be appropriate in your view, to reality in the marketplace, some considerable transparency and efficiency, greater efficiency at least, what do you expect to be the result of moving away 85 billion slowly come intelligently withdrawn as the economy slowly but hopefully positively returns to strength and at least

marginal prosperity? >> you will start to see the credit market work again, a smaller business and households can get credit again on a reliable basis to grow again, and that is the good thing. great if you have the rent-controlled apartments but does not do much for housing. not using up anymore, we can have more credit available for people who produce things, produce jobs and less for the government that shouldn't have the money in the first place. lou: you have been no fan of ben bernanke's policies, your reaction to the way in which he has been treated by president obama. >> i am appalled, president obama reappointed this man and he goes on the charlie rose show and trashes the guy, said he stayed too long, he will be out. you do it behind the scenes. you do it in public, you say

that guy has done a great job but he wants to step down, do this, that or the other thing. in terms of people relations, this guy is not a one. i'm trying to be light. lou: i take it you don't think that would be part of his lasting legacy. thank you very much the end people skills. thank you for being with us, as always. up next the diminishing role of men in society, the economy a severe effect on our families. we will lay it all out in the "chalk talk." i guarantee you will be shocked at some of the numbers i what is happening. we will lay it out in the "chalk talk" next. ♪

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education. and right now make up to 43%, 43 percent of college graduates. but the women -- i mean, this is astonishing -- 57% timmins' 43%. but those ratios, ten, 15, 20 years ago. unemployment, men, seven -- almost 8 percent unemployment. 71 percent of women. the median income, this is startling. it has big, big implications, not just for men, but the country. and come, $302,844 has -- is the median income for 1968. $32,844. the income now, median income, $321,307. that is $700 less since 1968.

stunning. men also now in part because of earning power beginning to simply boycott marriage. 80 percent of men were married in their late 20's in the 1970's. now 40%. have in their late 20's are married. what is happening? a lot of them, frankly, are living at home. living with their parents. 13 percent of men aged 25-34 live with their parents in 2000. up to 19%. six fatherhood. many become fathers are becoming more and more absent, and fewer of them. in the 1960's 11%, 11 percent of children still live away from

the father. now 27 percent of children live apart from their fathers. and since there are more women raising kids without a father they're more likely to have fewer children. the average fertility rate in the 1960's was just over three and a half which means each woman was bearing, on average, just under four children. now the fertility rate is just over 2% to just below. with all of these ego deflating and check to just that -- staggering statistics it is no wonder how the drug market is also booming. sales topping $5 billion per year. viagra, the little blue bell, only 15 years ago. the most counterfeits a drug in the country. so what does all of this means? of course it is all open to interpretation.

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gets everyone going. why haven't we gone on strike? >> well, i feel like the incentives are just not there for them anymore. the risks of marriage and a lot of things are very high. the rewards are very low. in the past to think that we have so many things, more food, more male space. today when men get married at think that they feel like there is much more lack of freedom, financial risks, and so many things that have happened. women have become the breadwinners and do so many things. we have not looked at the domestic way that men are treated in our society. lou: that is fascinating because, as we have just gone through, all of the forces at work here, we find that raises for men are actually less today, the median wage for men is less today than in 1968. the implications of that are

extraordinary. they cannot support a family on that median -- >> it is one of the reasons that they cannot support families. lower income women do not want -- lower income and are getting married less and less. part of it is not just that they're going on strike, but women a lot of times do not want lower-level man. they want higher level man, and they do not want to go to college anymore because college has become so feminized in a sense that a lot of men don't start early. lou: what do you mean feminized? >> everything has become about what girls need, what women need. it is not about what boys need. a lot of times boyle wrote, competition. our schools are still full of people only look at city sipped. basically for girls. a lot of boys are interested in other things in it and not want

to sit still and learn. we have boys in this country who cannot read. no one does anything about that. we also have some many female teachers. only 60 percent of teachers now are made in the elementary schools. lou: is that right? >> and according to the school of economics study found that female teachers at lower marks to boys. lou: the reality is right now society is becoming such a constrained place. the political correctness, found orthodoxies. women are doing well, but not as well as might be inferred. for example, the pew research study just recently showing that women amount to 40 percent of the breadwinners. when you look at those numbers, 63 percent of those women are on average earnings $23,000 per year. they are effectively dependent

upon the state. they are not breadwinners. they are not winning, and there is not much bread there. >> what is happening is they do not need many more. the states have become -- lou: that is a great way to put it. it is of level of dependency that will alter the way that we live. we think the american dream itself is at risk. >> i do. to exclude went -- man is to say that there not as good as fathers as part of our society. to do that has many men who are on the side and you are participating in a society. a book coming apart, and he looked at -- he found that more and more men are dropping out of work and they are growing more and doing leisured things. they cannot keep up anymore. thirty or $40,000 because the woman he makes that much, you know, from the government or other sources, she does not need

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all 220 people aboard were killed. the national traffic safety board and the fbi concluded the explosion was caused by fire and the flames -- in the plane's center fuel tank. a new documentary suggests otherwise. joining us now, the makers of this cause -- >> cause of ignition of the center fuel tank had to be something other than air plan electronics. primary conclusion was the explosive forces came from outside the airplane, not the center fuel tank. lou: joining us now, the co-producer of the new documentary and co-founder of flight 800 independent researchers organization.

what is it that brought you to the subject? this is a long time ago. we're talking 17 years ago. >> i was a graduate student at physics. sitting on my couch one day watching -- i think it was -- i don't know, one of the news channels. the fbi came on. the cia ad this animation showing what the witnesses saw. may have looked like a missile attacking aircraft. i am sitting there thinking, why is the cia telling me this? it does not seem to jive with the laws of physics. lou: dr. tom selleck, ph.d. in physics. as he began looking at this, some five or six years later, brought in a lot of those who had witnessed what they thought was this or are rocket approaching the aircraft. what are the revelations, as you

went back over this after so many years, the convention that this is worthy of significant investigation. >> and the eye-witness accounts that dovetail with the forensic evidence. that is what is unusual about this documentary. the first documentary that presents the first hand sources, meaning the individuals who actually handled the evidence inside the investigation. it presents the forensic evidence and cia witnesses and the eyewitness account dovetails with the forensic evidence. lou: you focus on six so-called whistleblowers or not allowed to speak to the public. not allowed to speak to the public. a 4-year investigation by the national traffic safety board. first of all, that is unheard of that should take four years to come to some sort of conclusion. then to have so many unresolved issues of the accounts that you

document. what are your own conclusions as at the end of the day. >> well, we first of all disapproved the official theory by using the radar data. like she said, it dovetails with @%e witness evidence. coming from the left of the plane and explode this way. well, the ntsb never analyze an explosion that was recorded on radar. it is incredible. i could go on and on. lou: did you find out why they did not? a lot of the people in this work -- suppose -- invested because they were the actual investigators and government employees to, i guess, have something to lose. were they fearful? what is the back story? >> well, the fbi came in very early and set up the aviation accident investigators from the national transportation safety

board. and they came in because there was talk of possibly being a criminal event. but the problem is that the fbi is not aviation accident investigators, and they did not include these experts in very important things like interviewing witnesses. the fbi does not record their witness testimony like the ntsb does. they take notes and write them up. and there are different questions that you ask. there are things like that, and everything was highly compartmentalized. arm and there were other issues. the investigation was undermined by tainting evidence. a lot of problems. lou: do you believe your documentary will result in the reopening of the investigation

and finally get clarity and honesty in what happened, why, and resolve the matter? >> i think it is definitely possible that the evidence is there. if the evidence was there there will look at it again, and they hope they do. >> and the ntsb is a really great institution. up until -- had a fabulous reputation. really did, and they know what they're doing. lou: it remarkable professionals with a very tough job. and an unpleasant run. thank you for being with us. the documentary is going to premiere on wednesday, july july 17th. we will put this up on our website. wednesday july 17th at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on the epics premium channel. we thank you again. appreciated. thank you.

we wish all the very best. again, i hope you will come back and we can discuss this after the actual. up next, mired in scandals, domestically, universally panned european trip. president obama has a relationship problem with the national media that one thought could possibly never sour. we are joined next. ♪

♪ lou: joining is now, the "a-team," box is political analyst. fox news contributor. let me start with you, if i may.

the president in ireland. it has now been focused, the national media has been focused, his outrageous statements about religious schools as the is a guest of the irish telling them that they have got to basically sustained their beliefs and also when then sell -- rated themselves of their religious schools. your reaction? >> he think that he can do no wrong. he thinks that they will follow him. this guy is clearly not in the same world. as he was standing me and 6 inches of plate glass as he put forward that horrible speech , what are the

consequences of this kind of disaster? >> this is the most insignificant trip that i have seen a president make enough for years and have been around white house is and what have you. he had no allies. the gains nothing. he was talking about something 20 years ago. no interest. he is basically building up. everyone was anticipating something. >> the mainstream media tried to us say that the speech would be like kennedy's 1963 berlin speech. also like ronald reagan's tear down this wall speech. let's just say, it was like an

engine at the apollo. global warming has not happened in 15 years. every president has some allies. he is not treated as a leader of the free world. lou: the republicans are joining. it is a peculiar thing. vitiate -- the gang of eight in the senate negotiated with two senators, one from each party and have come to a conclusion that they are calling a border surgeon think that now they're going to have 70 votes, monday. what is going on in the senate on immigration? the immigration bill? >> we are going to see something come out of the senate, whether it is on monday, something will happen soon coming out of the senate. however, where you will have your problem is in the house. with house members have made this out to be is more about the

politics of race and ideology. you have the tea party bashing the speaker for meeting with the hispanic caucus. we have a congress that the house divided. the senate will work together. the immigration reform bill will die and the house. >> i would agree. lou: should it die? >> i personally think it is a serious problem that we need to resolve. lou: this legislation, a serious response. >> this is not a serious @%sponse. >> more of a political response, i think what's the bottom line is typical of the senate. a lot of stuff that we don't know. commenced does the president has. lou: they're just big stocks.

lou: to numbers that the congressional budget office puts forward. only 25 percent of illegal immigration will be stocked with this legislation. only 46 million immigrants over the next 20 years, the united states as a result. these numbers raise the question what in the world is this senate thinking of? >> again, they are thinking about politics. i really respect rubio and what he is trying to do. we are supposed to have bipartisan policies. but the republican party, thinking that doing this bill will actually bring latinos to the republican party, let's just talk about 1986 and and mystique when reagan did something similar. latinos voted democrats. lou: overwhelmingly so. and it appears -- this seems -- well, we have very little time. the house with that approach,

they look like the adults. they look like a deliberative body, the serious people at this point. we thank you for being with us. >> the house does not hear what -- care what the senate does. -- care what the senate does. lou: thank you very much forg b. being with us. that's it. ♪ so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announce ] advair islinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd dications, advair contains both an anti-inammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should notused more than twice a day. peoe with copd taking advair may ve a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may incrse your risk of osteoporosis some eye prlems. tell your doctor y have a heart condition or high bod pressure before taking advair. ask your doctor if including advair could help prove your lung function.

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