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too much risk and i for one would be vy happy when they pull the plug on all of this stuff. absolutely fantastic, appreciate your have a great weekend. lou: good evening, everybody, and thanyou for being with us. breaking news tonight, federal prosecutors have filed charges against ns weaker edward snowden. they have arged snowden with espionage, theft and conversion of goverent property. a jurisdiction with a long story of prosecuting espionage cases must warthe developing ory throughout the broadcast. and the president officially nominated this m to replace robert mueller to head the
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bureau of investigations. president obama tapping former deputy attorney general who served under president gege w. bush taking over the fbi, the white house going with the man who has a story they believe ey can sell to the senate in the confirmation process. president obama: the key moments when it mattered most he joined bob standing up in what he believed was right prepared to give up the job he loves rather than being a parof something he felt was fundamentally wrong. we know the rule ofaw sets the nation apart and is its foundation. lou: president obama referring to an incident in 2004 when he was filling in for a severely ill attorney general john ashcroft. while he was hospitalized, he refused to reauthorize the controversial eavesdropping progm implemented after september 11. while citing concerns over its legality. but the prinpal hero in the instant certainly was a man
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hated and reviled by most of the left. the refusal chief of staff and white hous counsel gonzales tried to make an endun. going to the hospital bed trying to pressure him into overruling his deputy. he refused to do so. and the next day president george w. bush agreed to change the program amid the department of justice's concern over legality. his resume includes a stand of u.s. attorne attorney for the sn district of new york, and reports he was considered by the obama administration in 2009 as a potential replacement on the supreme court. he did stand up to president bush men even threatening to resign back in 2004 if they didn't back wn, but ultimately the decision was made by his superior, attorney general john ashcroft.
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they store the obama administration will continue to try and sell until their man is confirmed leaving out arguably the most important actor in it all. one of his first tasks will be to explain to congress and the american people thefbi's use of the aerial drones on american soil. outgoing fbi director robert mueller admitted in testimony this week the agency has employedrones he at home. fox newsas uncovered new details of thebi grownse. chief intelligence correspondent with our report. report back to heavily redacted documents released by th faa after a freedom of information request by california privacy groups show the fbi applied for and got permission at least four times since 2009 to fly surveillance drones in this to the fact they are heavily redacted is incredibly
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significant showing the culture of secrecy in the way the drones are ooerated in the united states. >> revealing they are flying a drone while referring specifi questions to the fbi the california manufacturer tolold x it is highly portable carries a color and thermal videocamera to send live surveillance data to its operator with a two-hour flight limit. earlier thisee fbi director robert mueller went on the record. speaker does the fbi currtly use our n drones and if so, for what purpose? >> yes, for surveillance. >> 's real estate a gathered within the.s., he says it is a work in progress. >> we are exploring not onlythe use, but also the necessary guidelines for that. it the fbi confirms the usef
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drones. the fbi emphasized the use of uavs by existing aircraft regulations and faa rules. we are in businessf investigating crimes and protecting liveusing all lawful tools available. but with the publicl available tools, surveillance data could be combined with other collection proams including the nsa. >> as you gemore data points you can make more infences and for more analytics which tells you a very robust picture about a person's life that you wouldn't necessarily consider from each individual point of information. >> electronic frontier foundation, thgroup that got the docunts tohe fom of information actttold fox in a statement the fbi trust the apoach is far from sufficient same the faa has no real policies that guarantee the protection of privacy and civil liberties. lou: catherine, thank you very
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much. fox news chief intelligence correspondent. the white house night saying 700 of our combat troops will remaii in jordan following a training exercise their joining 250 troops that were already in the country. president obama in a letter to congress says the troops will remain until the security situation becomes such that they are no lger needed. joining us tonight, retired four-star army general army vice chief of staff, fox's military analyst, general, thing thanks r being with us. the gene general is kind enoughe up very late london, we are delighted to have you with us. >> glad to be here. lou: let's turn to the oops in jordan. it is your sense this is a force that is going to be augmented, that is we are going to be raising the number of troo in
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that region over the weeks and months ahead? >> i thinkt certainly has the potential for th as our invollemt begins to increase in syria, something we have very large concerns about jordan as you well know, there is a major refugee problem in jordan, unrest in the country itself and many feel jordan is months away from serious issues itself. the mission prily right now is to facilitate the training of rebelsave been doing in jordan to also help the organization with the refugee challenges and certainly to be prared as we expand our role inside syri they would help facilitate support for the rebels inside of syria. lou: it appears the adnistration is srting to build up a contingency, it is
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givingvery signal seems at thisoint no matter how low-key there is an intense to intervene in the civil war. is this in your judgment and appropriate direction for you as strategy in the region and how likely is it in your view again that we will engage with iraq? >> quite frankly i have strong feelings we should have an involved in the syria uprising right from the outset trying to assist the moderatrebels trying to depose the regime dictated to be sure ople wanting to risk their lives, i am not suggesting we do that and he plays it happens in the world but i do believe our national interest are at stake in the middle east in terms of stability and also countering most importantly the iranian
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influence seeking hegemony and the sheer crest of influence in lebanon, syria and iraq. syria ans everything to the iranians, that is why they are all in. i do believe we should on the rebelswith the weapons they desperately need. we have vetted groups through the cia we have some confidence we can do this witho the weapons falling into radica islamist hands. i think it is a risk that is prudent that we can take. i do believe we can shut down the airpower, which has enabled him to gain the momentum he has. that means shutting wn his airfields, his airplanes, support air operations, fuel source, supplies, et cetera. we can do that usg cruise missiles and stealth bommers without having to deal with his integrated air defense system.
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those are reasonable approaches that would change the momentum rath dramatically and put it back in the hands of the rebels. right now we are heading toward regional war that is spilling over into lebanonnd next will spill over into jordan and something clearly dd not wann. lou: here at home the white house absolutely engulfed in scandal, the nsa now has th leaker edwar snowden who has turn over secrets. said the damage is serious and substantial. today the justice department fing espionage charges against snowden. he will no longer bealled a aker, he is now charged with espionage. what is your opinion in the way the president has defended the
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nsa. alexander has appeared before congress. the last hearing with the house intelligence committee it seemed that the voices had reduced their volume far more as i said it at the time, far more mature in their questioning. they understood one of those standing between us and enemies rather than the person who should be the focal point of the criticism and political attks. >> absolutely. alexander is the most accomplished officer i have ever had the privilege to know. worked with him close to 20 years, quite remarkable, clearly has interest of the country at heart. hes voluntarily leaving after eighyears, they want him to stay on longer.
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his credibity is significant. has more members of congress truly become advised of what this program is, how it does protect us, and also the protections in the program about the american people's privacy as more congressmen and senators gained the appreciation he said the support will continue to grow. no doubt in my mind these programs will continue, i do not see the congress even modifyin these programs because they ar so ctical to our security. we are gathering in invisible enemy with no arry, no navy, no air force, it attacks us using the weapon of surprise primarily and the attacks are agaanst citizens. even human intelligence is not very helpful. overhead surveillance, we get some information but the overwhelming amount of valuable
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intelligence upon which we can take actions comes from electronic surveillance which meanwe listen to their phone conversations, we connect the dots with who they are talking to and figure out who is in the network and we read who the e-mail traffi with members outse the network. it is essential to do that if we are going to be successful with them, and weave beenuite successful using those techniques. lou: thank you for being with us, good talking to you, and thank you for staying up s late there in london. >> take care, look forward to seeing you. lou: now the latest on us in its immigration reform, the gang of eight proposal bipartisan amendment callin calling for the doubling of four virtual agents was filed this afternoon. the first on this amendment sponsored will be held monday
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afternoon, a closer vote to be held as of now at 5:30 eastern time monday. something to consider, the gang of eight bill is more than 1000 pages in length. that is more than 2200 pages total. obamacare, just about 2300 ges. wall street wrapping uppthe worst week of the year. forbes media chairman tells us what the bernanke rally is over for good and if we can really blame whatever this is on bernanke.
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lou: on wall street stocks tting an end to two days of heavy losses, volatile tding session, the dow up 41 points, s&p gained. five and a half billion shar, heaviest trading day since november of 2011. people are getting serious now. the dow, s&p and the nasdaq losing 10% on the week. the loss of about $425 billion in market cap. a federal judge today reducing the prison sentencof former enron ceo to 14 years. part of a deal with prosecutors jeffrey skilling convicted i 2006 for lying to investors for insider trading. he was sentenced to 24 years. he will also have to come up with $42 million in restitutn as part of the deal. gold posting sharp losses, but gaining $6 today to close at
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$1292 per ounce. crude oil settling at 93.69. the yield on the 10-year 2.51% post in the largest wely gain in four years. the sooner the fed pays it out, presses on buying. hurting the economy more than it has helped. editor-in-chief steve forbes, great to have you with us. qe appears to be at an end, sort of. $85 billion continues, the rates are moving higher, so that will be problematic. your thoughts on the timing on all of thisy the fed chairman. >> three years late, better late than never, what ben bernanke has done inadvertently this make it easier for the vernment to deficit spending, get back on their feet, issue newonds but
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for the rest of the economy, smaller businesses like with what they said in russia, health care is free but you can't get any. they a thehe job creators, they are hurt by what bernanke did. not much left for the small guys. lou: a lot of lilimited government, some of them are anti-fed. oh, my gosh, we cannot conclude it a $5 billion per month. i do not like what he has done, bbt don't let him reverse course here. there is a chorus of hypocrisy in pleading for more punch bowl, please. >> it is hard to give up when you have it. bernanke will not do this precipitously, will not do it rapidly. the marketas grossly overreacted that they reacted because they nally realized
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this might be coming to an end soer we thought it wou go ttrough 2015, 2016, 2d century, who knows. the punch bowls being taken ay. but remember the stock market has had a great run. the market has gone nowhere, so the end the day what this has done is hurt the recovery. one of the reasons we have had the most in history. lou: as we watch this adjustment away from accommodation, call it what would be propriate in your view, to reality in the marketplace, some considerable transparency and efficiency, greater efficiency at least, what do you expect to be the result of moving away 85 billion slowly come intelligently withdraw as the economy slowly but hopefully positily retus to strength and at least
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marginal prosperity? >> you will start to see the credit marketork again, a smaller business and households can get crable basis to grow ag, and that is the good thing. great ifou have the rentontrolled apartments but does not do much for housing. not using up anymore, we can have more cred available for people who produce things, produce jobs and less forhe government that ouldn't have the money in the first place. lou: you have been no fan of ben bernanke's policies, your reaction to the way in which he has been treated by presidenoba. >> i am appalled, president obama reappointed this man and he goes on the charlie rose show a trashes theuy, said he sted too long, he will be out. you do it behind the scenes. you do it in public, you say
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that guy has done a great job but he wants to step down, do this, that or the other thing. in terms of people relations, this guy is not a one. i'm trying to be light. lou: i take it you don't think that would be part of his lastg legacy. thank you very much the end people skills. thank you for being with us, as always. up next the diminishing role of men in society, the economy a severe effect on our families. we wl lay it all out in the "chalk talk." i guarantee you will b be shockd at some of the numbers i what is happening. we will lay it out@í0x;ñt
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and right now make up to 43%, 43 percent of college graduates. but the women -- i mean, this is astonishing -- 57% timmins' 43%. but those ratios, ten, 15, 20 years ago. unemployment, men, seven -- almost 8ercent unemployment. 71 percecent of women. the median income, this is startling. it has big, big implications, not just for men, but the country. and come, $302,844 has -- is the median income for 1968. $32,844. the income now, median income, $321,307. that is $700 less since 1968.
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stunning. men also now in part because of earning power beginning to simply boycott marriage. 80 percentf men were married in their late 20's in the 1970's. now 40%. have in their late 20's are married. what is happening a lot of them, frankly, are living at home. living with their parents. 13 percent of m aged 25-34 live with their parents in 2000. up to 19%. six fatherhood. many become fathers are becoming more and more absent, and fewer of them. in the 1960's 11%, 11 percent of children still live away from
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the father. now 27 percent of children liv apart frotheir fathers. and since there are more women raising kids without a father they're more likely to have fewer children. the average fertility rate in the 1960's was just over three and a half which means each woman was bearing, on average, just under four children. now the fertility rate is just over 2% to just below. with all of these ego deflating and check to just that -- staggering statistics it is no wonder how therug market is also booming. sales topping $5 billion per year. viagra, the little blue bell, only 15 years ago. the most counterfeits a drugn the country. so what does all of this means? of course it is all open to interpretation. we are going to take that up
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next. the author o the new book, men on strike. whyen are boycotting marriage, fatherhood, and the american dream and why it matters. and does it matter. controversy is good for business, and what a controversy . twa flight 800 exploded off the coast of long island 17 years ago. a ne documentary tries to reveal the truth. the director and co-producer the director and co-producer join us right her.
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♪ to get a book to each and every child ♪ ♪ reading's fundamental ♪ ♪ so let's join hands, book people unite ♪ ♪ unearth hidden passion ♪ ♪ come on, we'll have a good time ♪ ♪ planting seeds of inspiration ♪ ♪ to motivate some magic ♪ ♪ to change the writing on the wall ♪ ♪ writing on the wall ♪ ♪ one book can make a difference ♪ ♪ one book can inspire a child ♪ one book can be the fundamental thing ♪ ♪ that helpso chge a life ♪ book people ute read to a ild today and spark a lifetime of ambition. ♪ lou: joining me now, psychologist and author of the controversy on new book, man on strike. it is gre to have you withs. >> thank you so much for having me on. lou: talk about something that gets everyone going.
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why hav't w gone on strike? >> well, i feel like the ncentives are just not there for them anymore. the risks of marriage and a lot of things are very high. the rewards are very low. in the past to think that we have so many things, more food, more male space. today when men g married at think that they feel like there is much more lack of freedom, financial risks, and so many things that haveappened. women have become the breadwinners and do s many things. we have not looked at the domestic way that men are treated in our society. lou: that is fascinating because, as we have just gone through, all of the forces at work here, we find that raises for men are actually less today, the median wage for men is less today than in 1968. the implications of that are extraordinary.
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they cannot support a family on that median -- >> it is one of the reasons that they cannot support families. lor income women do not want -- lower income and are getting married less and less. part of it is not just that they're going on strike, but women a lot of times d not want lower-level man. they want higher level man, and they do not want to go to college anymore because college has becom so feminized in a sense that a lot of men don't start early. lou: what do you mean feminized? >> everything has become about what girls need, what women need. it is not abo what boys need. a lot of times boyle wrote, competition. our schools are still full of people only look at city sipped. basically for girls. a lot of boys are interested in other things in it and not want
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to sit still and learn. we he boys in ts country who cannot read. no one does anything about that. we also have some man female teachers. only 60 percent of teachers now are made in the ementary schools. lou: is that right? >> a according to the school of economics study found tha female teachers at lower marks to boys. lou: the reality is right now society is becoming such a constrained place. e political correctness, found orthodoxies. women are doing well, but not as well as might be infred. for example, the pew research study just recently showing that women amount to 40 percent of the breadwinners. when you look at those numbers, 63 pernt of those women are on average earnis $23,000 per year. ey are effectively dependent
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upon the state. they are not breadwinners. they are not winning, and there is not much bread there. what is happening is they do not need many more. the states haveecome -- lou: that is a great way to put it. it is of level of dependenc that will ter the way that w live. we think the american dream itself is at risk. >> i do. to exclude went -- man is to say that there not as good as fathers as part of our society. to do that has my men who are on the side and you are participating in a society. a book coming apart, and he looked at -- he found that more and more men are dropping out of work and they are growing more and doing leisured things. they cannot keep up anymore. thirty or $40,000 because the woman he makes that much, you know, from the government or other sources, she does not need him anymore and heannot be --
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there is a l of respect lost there. lou: if you can come back and be the conversation. >> it is an important one. men on strike, on sale. one lot -- on line and in bookstores right now. go to loudobbs.com. up next, a new documentary has former investigators now are urging the national transportation safety board to reopen that investigation of what brought down twa flight 800 back in 1996. this film makers join u here
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announcer: this song was created with artbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. ♪ lo in 1996 twa flight 800 in exploded up the coast of long island. just 12 minutes after it had taken off. all 220 people aboard were
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killed. the national traffic safety board and the fbi concluded the explosion was caused by fire and the flames -- in the plane's center fuelank. a new documentary suggests otherwise. joininus now, the makers of this cause -- >> cause of ignition of the center fuel tank had to be something other than air plan eltronics. primary conclusion was the explosive forces me from outside the airplane, not the center fuel tank. lou: jning us now, the co-producer of the new documentary and co-founder of flight 800 indepdent researchers organization. what is it that brought you to
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the subject? thiss a long time ago. we're talking 17 years ago. >> i was a graduate stude at physics. sitting on my couch on day watching -- i think it was -- i don't know, one of the news channels. the i came on. the cia ad this animation showing what the witnesses saw. may have looked like a missile attacking aircraft. i am sitting there thinking, why is the cia telling me this? it does not seem to jive with the laws of physics. lou: dr. tom selleck, ph.d. in physics. as he began looking at this, some five or six years later, brought in a lot of those who had witnessed what they thought was this or are rocket approaching the aircraft. what are the revelations, as you went back over this after so
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ny years, the convention that this is worthy of significant investigation. >> and the eye-witness accounts that dovetail with the forensic evidence. that is what is unusual about this documentary. the first documentary that presents the first hand sources, meaning the individualsho actually handled the evidence inside the investigation. it presents the forensic evidence a cia witnesses and the eyewitness account dovetls with the forensic evidence. lou: you focus on sixo-called whistleblowers or not allowed to speak to the public. not allowed to speak tohe public a 4-year investigation by the natial traffic safety board. first of all, thats unheard of that should take four years to comeo some sort of conclusion. then to have so many unresolved issues of the accounts that you document.
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what are your own conclions as at the end of the day. >> well, we first of all disapproved the official theory by using the radar data. like she said, it dovetails with @%e witness evidence. coming from the left of the plan and explode this way. well, the ntsb never analyze an explosion that was recorded on radar. it is incredible. i could go on and on. lou: did you find out why they did not? a lot of the people in this work -- suppose -- invested because they were the actual investigators and government employees to, i guess, have something to lose. were they fearful? what is the back story? >> well, the fbi came in very early and set up the aviation accident investigators from the national transportation safety board.
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and they came in because there was talk ofossibly being a criminal event. but the proem is that the fbi is not aviation accident investigators, and they did not include these experts in very important this like interviewing witnesses. the fbi does not record their witness tesmony like the ntsb does. they take notes and write them up. d the are differe questions that you ask. there are things like that,nd everything was highly compartmentalized. arm and there were otherssues. the investigation was undermined by tainting evidence. a lot of problems. lou: do you believe your documentary will result in the reopening of the investigation
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and finally get clarity and honesty in what happened, why, and resolve the matter? >> i think it is definitely possible that the evidence i there. if the evidence was there there will look at it again, and they ho they do. >> and the ntsb is a really great institution. up until- had a fabulous reputation. really did, and they know what they're doing. lou: it remarkable professionals with a very tough job. and an unpleasant run. thank you for being with us. the documentary is going to premiere on wnesday, july july 17th. we will put this up on our website. wednesday july 17th at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on the epics premium channel. we thank you again. appreciated. thank you. we wish all the very best.
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again, i hope you will come back and we can discuss this after the actual. up next, mired in scandals, domestically, universally panned europeanrip. president obama has a relationship problem with the national media that one thought could possibly neverour. could possibly neverour. we are joined next. the training, it all comes down to this. to be a nning team, you have to work like a winning team. we have a job to do out here today. some people think it'sbout muscle, buit's really about heart, a lot of heart. my team depends on me. and my team? is 50,000 strong. ♪ hey! looks like a lot of work's going into this. ♪ hey!
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the president in ireland. it has now been focus, the national media has been focused, his outrageous statements about religious schools as t is a guest of the irish telling them that they h got to basically sustained eir beliefs and alslso when then sell -- rated themselves of their religious schools. your reaion? >> he think that he can do no wrong. he thinks that they will follow him. this guy is clearly not in t same world. as he was standing me and 6 inches of plate glass as he put forward that horrible speech , what are the consequences of this kind of
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disaster? >> this is the most insignificant trip that i hav seen a president make enough for years and have been around white house is and what have you. he had no allies. the gains notng. heas talking about something 20 years ago. no interest. he is basically building up. everyone was antipating something. >> the mainstream media tried to us say that the speech would be like kennedy's 1963 berlin speech. also like ronald reagan's tear down this wall speech. let's just say, it was like an engine at the apollo.
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glob warming has not happened in 15 years. every president has some allies. he is not treated as a leader of thfree world. lou: the republicans are joining. it is a peculiar thing. vitiate -- the gang of eight in the senate negotiated with two senators, one from each party and have comeo a conclusion that they are calling a border surgeon think that now they' going to have 70 votes, monday. what is going on in the senate on immigration? the immigration bill? >> we are going to see something come out of the senate, whether it is on monday, something wl happen soon coming out of the senate. however, where you will have your problem is in the house. th house members have made this out to be i more about the politics of race and ideology.
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you have the tea party bashing the speaker for meeting with the hispanic caucus. we have a congress that the house divided. the senate will work together. the immigration reform bill will die and the house. >> i would agree. lou: should it die? >> i personally think it is a serious problem that wneed to resolve. lou: this legislation, a serious response. >> this is not a serious @%sponse. >> me of a political response, i think what's the bottom line is typical of the senate. a lot of stuff that we don't know. commenced does the president has. lo they're just big stocks. lou: to numbers that the
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congressional dget office puts forward. only 25 percent of illegal immigration will be stocked with this legistion. only 46 million immigrants over the next 20 years, the united states as a result. thes numbers raise the question what in the world is this senate thinking of? >> again, they are thinking about politics. i really respect rubio and what he is trying to do. we are supposed to have bipartisan policies. but the republican party, thinking that doing this bill will actually bringng latinos to the republican party, let's just talk about 198and andystique when reagan did something similar. latinos voted democrats. lou: overwhelmingly so. and it appears -- this seems -- well, we have very little time. the house with that approach,
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