october of 81. 18.6%. hey, things could be worse. that's my two cen mre. that's all for tnight's willis report. have great you.

>> now it is time for john stossel. >> do yo want to have a drink? a cigarette? make abet. a t of people want to keep here, protect you from yourself. the church of england wanted to purify the church. al, they were e big on individuals with pleasure and luxury being sinf. that is actually someone else's wife and i in that case they

were put to death. their new campaigns against l sorts of other vices let's start with the law most all of yousay is good and needed. the law against drunk driving. drunkdrivers kill her into the federal gvernment with a hard limit on how much alcohol you could have your blood. is it set at the right level? i asked special correspondent kennedy to drink and drive. >> we a going to go thugh the course sober a then with alcohol and have you tried the drunk. >> it is my dream come true. los angeles county sheriff'sthe office, she had no trouble driving between cones and parking g between them. >> let the games bgin. >> she dank mimosa and then a tequiland then another mimosa. >> it is really shocking how little alcohol takes you to be

considered junk. >> kennedy is not much of a drinker. it was clear she was feeling it. john: the detective gavher the breathalyzer test. >> she was at a .043. >> am i drunk? >> no, anything under 805 is not under the influence. joon: but she was feeling it leaves the buzz. >> buzzed driving isrunk driving, don't do it. john: that kennedy did it, and e did pretty well. watching her driving, you would not ow that she was impaired. so she drank more. >> that was more than i ever drink in my life.

>> definitelympairment there. do you see her slain? john: this time she flunked the breathalyzer test, as well as the walking the line test. and when she drove, she was a mess. >> okay, there is a tone. >> there'sefinitely impairment there. definitely she would be going to jail. >> you have soered up. what have you learned? >> i learned that i felt mre drunk than i actually was. after three drinks when i took the second brathalyzer, i felt hammered. i would never have gotten in the car. i was shocked that i only blew that much. >> that you could be different

from normal people. you are not a drinker. >> i drink a little bit. i am definitely a moderate drinker. seven drinks to be considered junk? >> we should be clear to the audience what the government calls a drink is 1.5 ounces. >> it would've been 4 ounces of champagne and 1.5 oues of tequila or hard alcohol. so what you think is one drink could actually be closer to two. when you are for drinks then, you sometimes think you have only had a couple. that is when people have problems. >> the government has limit and they keep playing with it, changing it the pressure isways tighter and tighter. you live in lo ngeles where they have a lot of these checkpoints looking for drunk drivers and you become skeptical. >> yes, i'skeptil after this because i realize that it really

is rinking twice as much in some cases, they ould handle a car twice as well as i could in some cases. john: checpoint have unintended consequences. >> they do. you are ng one horseman off the street on busy holidays. but now people are using social media to let other drivers know where the checkpoints are. some critics say that encouraging people to drive drunk, others say no, it actually tells you. there are those out there that th do not drink and drive..3 jo: let'so the controversy ov the legal blood alcohol level and what should it be. it is currently08 dwn from the earlier limit of10. now, the fed does it is .05. the police are eager t punish drunk drivers. >> there is no way to hide it. if you dri drunk, cops

everywhere are stepping up enforcement in tracking you down like never befe. >> overwhelmingly, americans support this. but as journalist says if we real care about road safety and saving lives, we should olish drunk driving laws. so what? >> well, the ideis not to encourage drunk driving, but the idea is to improve highway safety and ke the roads safer. i think that you dohat by attacking reckless drivingandd3 not whatever it was that was causing the reckless driving to begin with. my problem is saying that it should be illeg to have alcohoinyur ytmwhile o arbehi the heel, e if u'renot on nythg wrg. ly wycanfcethat throh the inusiv meases, cludg hang cs dr blon e si of e ro or ese ceckpoints.

so my int is that we shod focus on the distraction. john: the government says that sleede the backseat. the gps, eating. >> my blood alcohol is .81. they are driving home at night. they get pulled over becse, you know, they are driving at 2:00 a.m. and maybe they do a rolling stop instead of coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. basically, you know, it ruins their lives in a lot of ways. they can be severely impacted. you get the fines come you have to go to alcohol rehab clsses.

and then you get a person who hasn't slept in a long time and may be a truck driver isn't here because of the lack of sleep. do ot ruck driver blows a red light and hit someody. that level of distractio is actually worse tan most. that person is not going to get the same sort of punishment that the drunk driver gets. my point is that it should be the rekessness and if you want to tack on extra penalties because someone was drunk after you get them forrwhatever infraction they committed, that is another story. as kennedy pointed out, when the federal government lowered the national blood alcohol level from the minimum level to .102.18, it had beein steep decline for about 20 years. i ink a good explanation f that wold be that when groups

like mothers against drunk driving put on these msive publ relations campaign, saying that this is noa joke anymore. it was sort of amusing back in the day to see someone stumbling, they were sucessful and they change blic advocacy about it. i think that has a lot more effect on the drop in fatalities than changing the laws to more aggressive enforcement. john: let's bring jt grffin into our stuo. what bradley is saying is that it workflow close to the campaign. not your law. >>o, that is not true at all. bringing down the fatalities is actually strong law enforcement coupled wi strong laws that are shown to bring down fatalities, especially in regard to drunkdriving. what he said about it is true.

highway fatalities involving drunk drivers have fallen by over 50%. that is due trong laws that have been worked to pass. john: i don't see how you know that. >> well, you can look at the laws that have been studied. things like the .08, the zero-tolerance. right now we have a new campaign to eliminate drunk driving, which is based on all convicted drunk drivers, support for checkpoints and advanced technology that we think could acally stop a drunk driver from operating his or her vehicle. he wants a test o the guys drunk and you couldn't starthe car? >> but sometimes it would misfire and sober people wouldn't get too dry. what the passenger is drunk?

>> the technology is being developed to focus on the passenger and the driver. it is being blamed for athird of all highway fatalities. john: drunk driving is involved, meing afterwardse found alcohol, but it didn't necessarily mean it was caused by that. >> i think that you can look at what is happening across the country. can see that it is a cause. we kw that when someone is active, it is one of the most studied health laws in the country in the world. we know that when someone is at .08, they a too impaired to drive. john: bradley? last qestion? >> those are alcohol related fatalities. that is often interchangedith drundriving fatalities. alcohol-related just means that sobody involved in the accident had alcohol in her system and it doesn't necessarily mean that someone was drunk or over the legal

limit. >> you can test if they have alcohol in her syste you can't test if they are yelling at the kids were struggling with the dog in the car. it is harder to measure. thank you both for being here. up next, i like to gamble, but some politicians want that band. >> if your kids gamble, they are three or four mor times to steal or get in trouble with the law. john: oh, m goodness. while my gambling make worse? we will debate it coming up next

>> what do you think? [cheers] john: i like to gamble, that is my periodic poker game. but i'd bet on all kinds of things, politics, sports, which green job will drop faster. fortately, in my state, that kind of social gamblg is legal. in most f america, organized gambling is banned. and internet gambling is banned.

as one u.s. senator put it, it is the crack cocaine of gambling. i thought they were supposed to take protections with the u.s. depament of homeland scurity and not be involved in gambling. our next guest says that he has testified before congress on wh gambling, especially internet gambling, why quiet must be banned. why is that? >> we are not talking about it

we libertarian issue. we are talking about fun and games. john: shouldn't people be fun and free? >> i like to play games. everyone likes to play games. that we are talking about a potential of serious and strategic and economic national security issues. john: i think this is politicians that want to control people. how is aonalserityt ri? >>t ishe enominatial serityise. widereadntert galing uld xaly wt thto commodity futures did when they eliminated all the antiambling for wall treet. because the debacle that we had

four years ago. widespread internet gambling destabilize financial systems, economic systems, it created a huge speculativebubble. it would look great for a while. but then it woulall argument seems interesting to me. >> this isn't a fun and games issue. i agree wi that. adults should be able to spend their money as long as they are not harming another person if

you look a gambling in his country, it less than 1%. and even if you had internet gamblingng come i don't see how this could increase th much to the point of a crisis of th professor is taking about. john: the public service announcements to try to convey what john is worried aout. >> i tried to persuade him, i try to help them. >> if your kids gamble, they are playing more than just games. they are more tan likely to drink and use drugs. john: give me a break.

people already have a more adventurous system. >> to some extent, i would agree with you on that. but the way to thinkabout this the study showe that whe you have gambling facilities, electronic gambling in particular, which is what the study commission called new addictive gambling, akin to crack and cocaine, when he put th on the internet, it will be at every school desk work best and cell phone. john: michelle, do y say that this is entertainment? just like what is in the movie? >> there are benefits way beyond just the entertainment factor of gambng. especially espeally we are talking about poker. it is social, it elps you run statisticalanalysis. i think some kids could benefit

greatly by playing games like poker that encourage focus and strategic thinking. >> we are talking about how this is supported by the national gambling study commission. the 2006 unlawful internet gambling enforcement act. with ver 80% in the house. >> i get it. the politians d't want us to do that. d they get to use force. thank you, john and michelle. a similar debate about paying for se most americans sa that this is bad.

john: should there be restrictions on violent video games? >> are videogames veo games to blame for gun violence in this blame for gun violence in this countr [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...

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>>, on. too bad for you. john: from a popular video game but codn't turn them into killers? whenever there is a mass shooting people say violent video games probably inspired it. >> these are people who have been trained on video games the industry is just like the tobacco industry when ey failed to see there was a connection between sking cirettes and cancer >> they have encouraged the killing of innocent people for sport. john: senator grassley from

iowa and he is right said the s of billy graham the took over his father's ministry. why is he right? >> first of all,, god undetands violence. his son jesus christ was nailedo a tree for our ns and god understds violce. we see it all around us but in our countryover the last 30 or 40 years, of violence has come into our homes in the form of entertainment. when i was grong up, it was gunsmoke every time h pulled out his gun to protect fe and the od guy always one but it is a far cry from the video games of today.

and then to make a glorified john: day want to ban them? >> we have a constitution to do that but we certainly can tax them. and alcohol why not violence do give the money to the people who are the victims? john: : the head of the nra agrees that videoames business is a corrupt industry that sells violee against his own people through vicious and violent videogames is an fantasizing about killing people to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography? john: he is right to defend ben wright's but there is no good evidence i pushed back

to both of you. i have had t guns all my life i got my first one in nine yearsld. evyone i grew up with had begun. we did not shoot people. d they want toress like the actors they see on tv or the video games in the arm themselves and go out and commit killings. it is sick and it is the crime our entire nation. john: no, no, no. you talk about all this stuff coming into our homes over theast 30 or 40 years. you are right. much more violence bucrim is down. maybe it is good for ki. we don't know. >> i would say its not good for anybody.

these vide games are murder stimulators. >> in japan they watch twice as many videogames can fire arm death in the united states and it causes people. >> vendor snd what you are saying and i agree tt we do need evidence we do need a national study but don't have one as far as i know. the press -- president and congress need to find a way to curb violence. it is an epidemic in our untry and how to restock this? we need god's help. we rlly do. john: the villain was the

comic-book the senate claid it was causing juvenile delinquency and forensic scientists said one comic per monthadistic fantasies for kids. that was superman. >> i don't know. maybe those books did have a negative impact. i don't know our governmt is not focusing on tha. john: much more studies could we have that they are more popular and crime is down? but thanyou. we move from violence to sex they can go on dates can do itbut if the

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john: i want to discoage a moral behavior but how should ibe done? it is okay with friends and family, friends, but governnt? it is force you are not moral if you stay away from san only because it is illegal and the lw ns things like drugs or sex dot stop them from happening often they cause new problems because they create a black market. some politicians say they will not ban the activity but just taxnd that is -hat billy graham's son said he wts to do to nudge people to good behavior but michael thomas says that is a bad idea he authored a study of the syntax. >> one of the obama as advisers has said libertarians should be 0k it is better than banning3

thing. >> it is still paternalism when you go from prohibition that is bad it creates a black market then we go to louaxing that also causes a black market so this was to be an alternative but it is a contradiction of terms. john: and it causes problems india's people it incentive to break the law. >> the new was black market not drugs but cigarett. john: pele smuggle cigarees and in my state the tax alon is $5.34 per pack and that makes for t $11 a pack the taxation and used to collect cigarette packs and most of them were illegal? >> they went to pick up cigarette packs all over the year accidie but 61 percent ha no tax the about all or we're from another state.

john:y mayor said you cannot buy soda in bottles this big the court has stped him but it is just as much sugar in apple juice the idea is the harm coming from the sur you want to tax that you would change behavior by people could get anywhere they once and at is called substitutes in economi. >> indiana forces convenience stores to sell beer that is warm. >> they say if the kids see the bier in the cooler and next to the coup they then they will somehow equate the to g walking b it in the aisle when it is warm does not have the same impact. >> and then you don'tdrink it ithe car? >> people that are highly motivated to drink i don't think they will be discougednd those of patients by it ahead of time. john: with the steady what

is the bottom line? >> it is certainly an improvement over prohibition but it would be better to educate to give people a choice. john: monday is okay in america andex for many is rbidden. working at the moonlite bunnyranch one o zero legal brothels america. dennis hof is her boss. >> you are a pimp. >> hava license. john: you are a licensed tampa

john: sex for many or prostitution is legal in mu of the world but not america if the womanants to be paid for sex the police could locker up in reporters say this. >> tale may be the safest place the high and hookers have never been. john: really? thfest place they have never been? i doubt that. also where it is legal there is little danger. here in nevada it is safe. >> if we have a problem the sheriff comes. john: brooke taylor joins us

now along with her friend to works out moonlite bunnyranch owned by dennis hof. is legal in las vegas with the rest it is not? >> from virginia city until 1972ut then they tl us we don't want it in las vegas or read note of population of since it is the goal and a 15 year-old counties. john: you have your othel the moonlite bunnyranch and 500 licensed sex workers. john: 50 working at a time. this is disgusting to people to view? we have a right. is a hypocrite politicians would wake up every state would havea molite nnyr. hn: u arsellgour body. that justfeels sleazy and demeing to pple.

>> really i.m. renting g. i still owe myself the beauty is that i could live my life based on my morals and values. john: only a few counties of nevada i moved from the midwest to do it within the confines of the loss of my choices are on me. i don't find it disgus ion't tel em what to do with their body. john: krissy summer i am told to do because you don't have other options. >> i have a double major from university of miss i -- michigan. year both college gduates. i could leave tomorrow and be fined. but before i came to the bunn ranch my student loans almost went into dfault so i contacted dennis. why not? john: it is gross. >> is completely safe. >> to some people that is the biggest problem

that we've you sexuality as being grossi and it is not. john: paying for it is. >> to some butot to all. if it was arrested everyoyone we wouldn't be in business. john: let's bringn an opponent. of fred tecce who used to be a prosecutor in philadelphia at. you haveeard these women. how are they wrong? >> i will not judge them but as a prosecutor and someone who has done as i think the law should make it more fficuut outside of where they are to make it illegal. >> i appreciate that. because i dislike is legal prostitution that is you frame of reference but people will do this and tried to google's search philadelphia? trafficking and we don't have them inheunty where it is legal in nevada because the men have a place to go instead of gettin with illegal trafficking

typically with underage children. john: that is a good point*. it doesn't make it go away. >> people will kill people but. john: that is a big difference that is taking away somebody else's freedom >> it will help then one negative owe have beenne where the other vehicle like drugs or pimp if they take the money they put it back into oher criminal enterprises more than anybody. >> i he what you s that is the same argument about @egalizing drugs. john: what about alcohol? go back to prohibition. >> exactly. with thos illegal operations should be shut down. and i will tell you i don't need business guys. i could walk into a woman's prison. >> but you coul at the but

the ranch. >> i hear you. but to make it legal is to add the temptation for anybody out there to regain to an ever thewant. john: shoull we restore prohibition? >> no. john: i would think it is the same argument that we are out of tim [laughter] >> come visit us. john: a w law mandat that porn stars must wear condoms. with this otect peop with just another dumb idea from the puritans? to make that will likely explain

john: paying 49 is illegal but paying to watchts not. pornography is huge business and for years it was centered in los angeles but that has changed because last year was the angeles passed a law requiring all porn stars to wear condoms. that is a great thing says professor of public health at ucla, a dr. jeffrey klausner. paul cambria represents those companies that make the form. -- born. >> superficially it sounds logical but the problem is the past there was testing involved in los

angeles, rigorous testing of all adult porn stars. john: for sexually transmitted diseases? >> no case of hiv. not since 2004. what is happening now instead of having a testing process that makes sense with rules and regulations they have driven the business underground or to other states with no rules. if the goal was to protect theorkers it is the opposite result. >>he custome don't want to watch sex films ready actors wear condoms? >> no doubt. after the initial aids scare and a number ofompanies went to condoms and over 30 percent of the market disappeared. john: what out at? it sounds like you're moving

it t to her places and found that 25 pcent of all adult workers so the current tear it testing system is not adequate and it is the legal industry in people and making money off the workers activities than they are continuouulyeing exposed on a daily basis but aart of a reasonable approach there is the additional measures to protect the althf the worker. >> the industry has a lesser percentage of its tv than the population as a whole. >> that is completely false. >> as result of testing testing, he hano stattics that demonstrate that any of these diseases

are occurri as a result of the adult industry. they may be discovered of those initial industry and the population as a wle and do they gee them in their private life heries to make it look like they got them with the adult industry. that did not happen. but they have moved out of california so the protections that were there are gone. john: that doesn't seem to solve much but we have this clip. >> at could likely explain the fil boom in ventura county. 90% of it is shot in sid fernandez valley bringing in $30 billion of reven. -ohn: they think it just makes people better but people los angeles are losing money. >>7% of thooe approved it so the people of fos

angeles said we want condo in our adult films to protect workers and it went to the people. this is government for the people and by the peop. john: so what? it is not a tyray of the people in white jaakets ould be incarcerate should we have the freedom to take her own risk? the option is that it could d.c. area and businesses need to comply with the law had to protect when it moves to a different place? >> that is the choice industry but there is talent of us angeles and resources and ut effort by the industry to scare people but

it wilcontinue and thrived and i am sure it will stay and try been los angeles. john: debut. to sots what people call sin and from the famous dead people. ralph waldo emerson wrote that which we call sid and others is an experiment for us. john: experiments are good we want moref that. another way as when we have too many laws and italy is hurting oohers all others are innted nonsense. he is right. for those who should have no bias agast assaulting pele? no. the liberriansdon't say no bob.

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