better. >> and that's it for forbes on fox. have wonderful weekend, keep it right here. number one business block cashinin and my buddy eric boler. >> sara palin is here governor and i fired up with distrust of the govnment. now we are learning irs is giving themselves cent million dollars in bonus and what does sah think about that? >> and does the fbi own or currently use drones and if , for what purse? >> yes, and for surveillance. >> talk about shock and a we. fbi using dron to spy on americans. now the governor weighs in and reaction from my shocking interview with father of whistle

blower mr. snowden. anwhat he said wl shock you. cashin' in blowing the whistle on big brother right now. >> hi, everyone. i am eric poling. we'll be going full speed a head anexplore the latest in washington. and also colonel allen west is here. joining me in the hot seat good friend fox news contributor sarah pin. governor, welcome. we c't trust the irs. they proved tt by targeting conservatives. and they are giving union employees 70 million in bous paid for by the taxpayer it is not sitting well with you. >> no only a government would collect a bad deed. its a shame and more reasonto distrust our feder government and the nonsee going on in

d.c. >> that's the overriding theme of the she. and can we trust them in governor, can we trust them? >> well,l, can i trust our fedel government? is the bear catholic and does the pope le in the woods? no, i don't trust our federal government. eric, that is a $17000000000 trillion have a gornment that doesn't announce to the american public thate are bankrupt and instead they dig more debt and spending money on riculous items and programs, that is just one example as to why it is that the american public can't trust the federal governme. it seems that washington is for sale and we have so many companiesine in the recent weeks, eric that lead people to understand and acknowledge that we need ahealthy distrust of

our government. >> this week, the tea party said it is time to abolishhe irs? >> right on. this would give us reason to head toward a miction of a tax code and adopt a flat tax and you know, that way we coul abolish the bureaucracy that is so burden system and expensive andngaging in ridiculous antics today in the irs. it would allow sledgehammering of cony capitalism and also corruption within. the tax cheats and all of that scenario. and would give us great reason to make more sense ofhe cofferes that are filled by the american's public fruft their labors. >> the irs gave us a comment that said on the screen. regarding the 70 million in bonus. the irs is under a legal

obligation to comply with the collectivebargaining agreement which specifies the terms by which awards are paid to the emplees. >> and that is not just drive you crazy? >> it drives me crazy. you can anticite that the obama administration will not even push bac on what this union is demandingor its employees. it is a shame here. the obama administration will kowtow to the friends who are union thugs and the leadership of the unions arethugs d they will not push back. unfortunately becauset gives a bad name to the bther and sisters in the union who want to produce well for the american public and do their job. it is the leadership that is engage in the thuggery that obama will not push back. >> we have no idea how high up the scandal goes. if the irs is able or willing t

target conservative groups. we learnedhat the fbi director muler said they are targeting americans with drones. your thoughts? >> that's very disturbing. i think what muler is telling us hey, america on.s. soil, we are going to shoot you down just a little bit, because he's talking about the minimal impact of drones on u.s. soil. and now, wt this allows us to understand though, that ram paul was right when the senator engaged in the filibuster and what he asked for a couple of months ago. he asked for the unanswered questions of domestic use of drones and the impact on the american public, what were they and what was going on and was it actually happening. he was chidded and mocked and ridiculed by the oba

administration and some in the senate r engaging in such a thing. ram paul was right and finally we are getting an answer. yes, drones are used onhe american soil. >> and so now the irs is targeting the conservativ groups because they don't agree with the ideology. he didn't speci who and why they were using the drones. again, can we trust them? we are building a little argument here? >> we are building a strong case against that trust of today's federal government. i personall do notrust any government that is led by barak obama when he is fulfillg the promise to fundmentall transform the most exceptional nation. as i said so many times we don't ed afundmental transformation we need what is good and free and right about amica.

i don't trust the government ufrnd the leadership that wants to change what we know is so good about america. >> okay, governor, one more, we'll continue to build this case. ed snowden, nsa whistle blowe who went to china and then hong kong and then china said the nsa was blanketing and taking informatation from verizon telephone customers. i got an exclusive interview with his father. take a listen on how he assesses the situation. >> what is occurring is similar to every morning, the government walks uto your mail box or afternoon, and they ll the envelopes out and open them, and they look at your mail and copy it and they archive it in case they want to look at it in the future in case you do something wrong in the future. they reseal the inrms and put it back in the mail box a do it every day over and over

again. >> the irs is targeting conservative groups. they are droning certain americans and nsa listen nothing amerans, violating the fourth amendment constitution that said yoneed problemable cause. they didn't look for the problemicable cause. we are eher in iran or communist china. your thoughts? >> any american would say hey, something is wrong here. especially in regards to the discussion about snowden. snowden is not the problem. here we are told, relax and don't worry about government spying on all of our communication, and buildi that apparatus to be able to spy on all of us. that is no big deal. but it is criminal, the person who told us that told us what our governmenis doing. snowden is n the problem. the problem is government violating ou fourth amendme right and taking away our privacy. and i was a victim of my e-mails and my communication being

cked when i ran for vice-president. in that campaign, i said the same thiwhat difference is it from a hacker coming in and opening up physically my mail box d going through my mail to be used against me at some point. government in this case is dng the same thing thathat punk hacker kid did during the vp campaign. it is not ethiccal or moral or legal measure taken by our government. >> governor, i appreciate you being here and spending time on cashin' in. when you add them up,an we trust them, the answer is a big fat no in my opinion. governor sarah palin, thank you for joining us and hanng out on cashin in this morning. >> thank you so mh. coming up. hits to your privacy keep companying up. all government willhare your personal and medical information. are you help.

hope you are not shy about sharing persal medical records. the new rule requires that state and federalnd local agency to swap health information o anyone signing up for the programs. they wld be enforced by the irs. colonel west, you can't be happy with this, sir. >> absolutely not. it is the same as nanc pelosi

said. we have to pass the bill in order to find out what is in it. we'll find more heinnous and nefarious things about the obama care law a we get closer to the full implementation. the states were complning about invasive and intrusive vernment with king george iii and that's what we are seeing here. we don't trust the irs because of them targeting certain groups and we see them getting promod and we don't get to t p.m. or the truth and be concerned approximate the ty of organizations that will be charged the exchanges and kna dpators as well. ooel get to that in a minute. johnathon, no where it said you can check don't share my personal information. i am concern period this one. >> eric, elimination of private

health care is the elimination of health care. and obama is socialization of health care and you should expect no privacy at all. yourealth and prive records become public good no matter if its cost savings or efficncy or whatever justiction they choose to come up with. spying is done with public safety and national security. it is the same thing. he whoays the bill makes the rules. >> and wayne, the group that admitted targeting conservative they have to share the information totate d insurers as well. it sounds lik an invasion of my privacy. a shredding of the constitution? >> it is, eric. you are right. the whole idea. the whole bill is 2200pages there and regulations are like

20,000 pages and impossible to comply wit it is a disaster. they have to turn it over and start l over. and when nancy pelosi said pass it and we'll discover what is in it. that is irrespsible. these people aegedly represent us. we a giving them the privilege of representing us and they turn it back and throw it in our face. we ought to get rid of them. >> we find more things and these things are not liking and more taxes and invasion of our privacy. >> i agree your n name is uncomfortably etched sewhere. i don't think the irs or -- but, i will also say look, i understand why they have do it obviously it is part of the exchanges where they find out if you are getting the cerage you are entitled. i wouldlike to have it done in co with a number assigned.

i agree there are concerns about privacy. >> colonel west. i rather have the states do it, dow? >> absolutely so. we don't understand what the slippery slope can be. you start with upon invasio of your medical records and what ends up happening and as far as whis seeing the information, it comes back to data mining. >> and it is happening in real- time eric. going back to 2010 under romne care. private patient files that were tossed in a dump for anyone to check them out. and in 2011, an hiv positive pilot had his information shared. briefly in the uk, they are building the government health care a tional gene database. and everyone's dna is tracked. >> let me add one more. wayne, when you think of all of the database and mining they are dog and apply it to the

naonal gun reggistry, conservatives have toe up and arms too much information that the government is controlng and seeing. >> i agree with that. except for conrvative. you are a citizen you have to care about yourprivacy. every agency, irs, we have now obama ce, and everyone of these agencies that build up a bureaucracy invades your privacy and they should get rid of them and ct them in half. d the whole idea of g government is too big and out of control. we'll have to leave it tre. mayhem over money and morals in

>> should the government be funding wino your dime? republican senator tom coburn wants to know why the fda slashed assistae to women and children b but pumping thousand in winies and liquor. johnathon our pprietaries are out of whack on this one. >> youou want to subsiddize wine, you should drink it which i do. if you are against cronyism, be against all subides for booze and green energy and film production and women and children and infants. i disagree with you that it is a questionf priorities. i think coburn is inconsistent. he is be against all subides.

. and they should help them. cornell west. what about thedemocrats. they blame sequester and tey ended up cutting the assistance and we are spending monowineries. >> you can raise the level of pain and that's what you see happening here and it is priorities and in the military wenderstood our task and purpose and priorities and it calls in to question. what is the mission of the u.s. department of agriculture? we saw the farm bill get voted down in the house of representative becau it is now 80 percent. you know supplemtal nutrition program anwe have this type of spending. the social safety net is out there for a purpose and we don't want it to be peoe bei dependent on it. >> is john drunk or right when

he said cut all subsidies. >> ithk jnathon can be both drunk and rightt the same time. >> i said one glass. >> i like i best when he's drunk though. in and case, this is what i previous said. it is the agency of the department of agriculture totally out of the conol and a lot of this is unnessary. you can cut all of these agencies in half and be a head of the game. they are spending money where they shouldn't be. and they are spending where they shouldn't and there should be rules about this and the only way cut themack i say you can't do that anymore. >> they are spending like drunken soldiers and sailors. that is an inst to the sailors. >> i don't know what is in the wine. righ jnathon should let all of the poor kidsn the street and gutter and the government shouldn't help them. they are starvg, give me

a break. >> what a monster i am. >> i have to say what are you dog with the kids? who will pay for them to get food? >> hold on, guys. i will give cornell west it is not about whether or not social servic but if we should snd things on wineries and cut social services. >> it is the priorities that are there. anlook at the programs that we have. the snap program and others and electronic benefit transfer cas d there is no means testing. look, we have a government that is using taxpayer dollars to solicit peop too on the programs. >> thank you for joining us this week. >> coming up, the white house tour stillcancelled

>> time for what i need to know next week. waynyou are up first. >> tis is a turning market and dot make new coitments. i still beeve that and sit tight for a while. >> johnathon? >> the baltic shipping index and price of shipping is breaking to new highs. i like the sta. and preside obama is about to do iton the african safi.

the commander and chief spend a hundred million bucks on he and the first family traveling. and unfortunately mr. president ♪ >> tom: many of us are not happy with the government scooping up all our information but the snoops say they only check on feigners and not citizens. is that true? can we trust the we're talking how data flows flew the internet and what information they are really storing right here, right now. >> tom: thanks for jning us. here at the top of the stack. amount of data flowing througthe pipes that make up the intnet i tremendous. the complaint after 9/11 there was too much information for our government to follow and theyid not connect t dots and hence the attack. now tec