>> the white house slamming china and russia over handling of nsa leaker snowden, they are smacking us down. liz: welcome everyone, i am liz macdonald in for neil cavuto tonight. u.s. is leaking weak. craig, let's start with you, china, idea that china can protect its civil liberties, that is a laugh and a half. but you think because of our

debt at home is why we're getting the nose thumbed at us %->> if we had a strong preside, he should be able to pick up the phone, peak to premier of china, and to putin. i remember when reagan was our president, while he was being sworn into office, 440 days of our people held hostage, they were releasing the hostages. why? they knew there was a strong man in the white house, they did not hhve someone who was just playing president, he was being president and leading, that is why i think they are not paying attention to what mr. obama wants. liz: this is aboute storing u.s. economickikic strength. you know people would say some people say that is what we should do but you can't without

economic strength at home. >> it that is true, you have to go back a number of years to find when our relations in particular with china and russia there were bad. it speaks to the lack of leverage, and influence we have, and lack of respect we get. i don't think you can discount the politics of this, as well, i am not going out on a limb by saying that white house, screwed the pooch on benghazi out of political fear over what a problem on ground in benghazi could mean for looming presidential election, so it is not a big stretch to say that, is this white house really excited to actually, despite what they are saying? get their hands on snowden, get him back here, then have a spectacle of a trial. ahead of midterm elections, that cannot be discounted. i hate to think that white house is so incompetent right now they were not able o pressure, strong arm and get china's

cooperation. liz: you make a great point, mike. right now. with the snowed kno snowden cass complaining of u.s. surveillance of citizens. the point is that essentially this is a story line where russia is saying that u.s. has been overzealous as a global cop, overreaching, we've been over playinggour hand, but to mr. baker's point, if we have an unstable u.s., that means instabilitiy in middle east, problems like benghazi and libya. >> you are right. mike hit it all, it is political, look at benghazi, we'll get the bad guys, he does nothing about it. we don't know who told us story and fib about you know, a video. youtube. mike is correct, we had a deterioration of our relationship with russia and china, and i believe part of it is due to the economy stress

we've had between the nations, think about it do we believe that vladimir putin does not want to have some dominant position in the world. if we have allowed relationships to get so bad, to where our free world cannot pick up ae telephone, i doubt, i don't think he picked up the telephone and called the premier or have vladimir putin, and said, i need you to work with me, look, mike and i would agree, he is a bad guy, he stole things from america he is a thief, who knows what he has given up, but we don't know, so why not work with china and russia, to get him back and find out what happened? answer is, they are telling to us go fly a kite, liz, they verve right to do it quite frankly because of the way that have been treated. liz: i tell you, still a

striking, no small irony, that you know snowden is runninn to countries that are so against civil liberties, in china and russia? know, for decades u.s. has come -- there has been complaints about u.s. being the global cop, right now it seems that countries are being more vocal and more forward with their criticism publicly in the press. >> they can afford to do that, it is a lack of leadership. that you know putin loves nothing more than to stick it in when he has the opportunity, chinese relationship has always been fraught with nuances and difficulties, but it clearly is stressed at this point. and snowden, he sat in hong kong, provided about our

national security posture today chinese government. people have been contemplating, that saying, we are beating up on the chinese over their decade of military espionage. it is only fairplay. it is not, we're working in a different world than chinese, chinese were willing to steal everybody, i am worried, that they become so layered, you lose track of the matters. liz: you start to lose perspective, because china is not a country with a lot of economic liberties, final word mr. baker. >> well, again, i'm stunned, i made a mistake early on to say i thought we would get snowden back in short order, i could not imagine our relationship with china is so bad they would blow it up over letting him go, i was wrong. liz: craig smith. >> mike in, he will get him.

liz: next up china keeps getting away withhhacking us, no wonder its neighbor india is getting in on the act, cyber criminals there accused of hitting u.s. targets including chicago mercantile exchange. dean chang with china's bad habits. >> we're seeing, to build off your previous gifts, we have a weak economy. a president who is unable to make commitments that he can live up to. and most recently, he almost desperately invited chinese premier to rancho mirage, and the chinese slapped him in the face but not willing to spend the night at the resort, they stayed at a separate hotel, to send the message, we don't trust you, and we don't think you will do anythhng if we insult you. liz: take a step back, it is

getting easier for any player to get in on the act of cyber hacking or has this story always been out there not reported on. >> ahead. >> somebody who smart with a laptop can operate from a internet cafe anywhere in the world, they can create botnets and create all shorts of nastiness, the problem with mr. snowden, he knows the counter measures. liz: stay on india, who is cyber hacking there? what are they going after? >> i think in case of india, you probably have act -- hackers in commercial opportunity, contract who will make a play for an acquisition or who would indians like to partner up work you can see people hold cards. liz: is there cyber hacking out of pakistan? >> at this point there iser hacg out of every country, but i think that india for its size

but more advance i-t capacity is a light more concern than pakistan. liz: dean are you concerned that rather than countries building a functioning economy they are turning to cyber hacking? >> i think for particularly countries whose economies are already ricketty like pakistan, like venezuela, they are going to look at this, as the way out it is not. the thing is at the end of the day if you want to build an economy, you have to have a fully fudgal system, but for -- fully functional system, some are after political control, and cyber is a way to do that. both econ and politics. liz: quickly, we have a limited aim of time when countries are you most worried about in terms of cyber hacking the u.s. and companies here. >> i think that china and russia lead the pack. believe it or not north korea and probably see more things coming from south america.

liz: so, final question, north korea is cyber hackiig u.s., what are they cyber hacking here? >> they are trying to break into our military but they are also trying to break into things like our power grids and any other parts of communications and information backbone aways to hurt the united states, cheaply but devastatingly. liz: dean chang thank you so much for being with us, good to see you, next up, coming up uk how government could force businesses to hire ex-cons. it is true. >> next also thousands of pages, hundreds of surprises, costing billions of dollars. we're talking about immigration bill that is giving businesses a lot of headaches. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink ayour trusted technology partner, you can do just that. wi our vionary cloud frastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions,

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read, too complicated to understand. add in billions for stimulus for job training, ron meyer, is this health care part 2? >> it look like that for me it looks worse, a bill with seemingly good intentions, you are just loading it up with pork, it will not even help young people. if a program is good, it should be brought up on its own merits. this is not the right time, immigration reform should be focused on immigration reform, and border security. that has nothing to do with the pork pieces. liz: to republican's point -- ron's point. after health care reform was said and done, here is what was in it, 300 million extra medical for louisiana more money are in massachusets medicare could money for tennessee hospitals, and look at this, 100 million to senator chris dodd medical

center, you are concerned after the fact all headlines and media goes away the boondoggles are shoe horned in. >> i understand this has been happening throughout history, it may mass the senate -- pass the senate, it is not going to pass the house, yes, we can be concerned but the house will complain more. liz: peter, image not worried about pork it is getting rejected. >> >> i think what bill like these show us is folly of comprehensive reform of any type, whether health care or immigration. if you are worried about immigration, you want more immigration, find a solution to the problem of 11 million people here illegally, what do we do with them? those are problem you should be solving, creating, sane paths to immigration here in u.s. rather than this screwing and complicated system we have right now.

we're doing is focussing on trying to do everything at once, that is not immigration reform, that is bad politics. >> ron, to peter's point, we are kitchen sinking this. >> i think that is true. we should be looking at how to make a better legal immigration system, that deserves a debate, and focus, not these other provisions, why capacity we juut folk -- why can't congress just focus on one thing at a time so the american people can comprehend. >> but what would that one thing be? >> well, i have a different view, i am a legal immigrant, i think you need to do something about the illegals, but they should be a path to residency, not citizen ship. those who come league lao are leaguely deserve

to be here, but. liz: what do you mean? >> i have a green card, but i am not a u.s. citizen, i think you have to behave honorably to be a u.s. citizen, if you dishonor the process in anyway, which dubai coming here illegally, you should never have the honor of becoming a citizen. @%z: have a period of time, you are a residence then earn your way to citizenship. >> this bill does not let people who are here illegal li right now become citizens for more than a decade, they get a vision -- provisional status, then after a tak decade there is a waiting period. liz: we know that. this anthis is saying you have n in a good track record first? >> if you came here, illegally,

you should not be a citizen at wall, which is not in the bill. liz: that is the point. >> if that is what we're going to do, we should focus on creating a clearer and saner path to get here legally, right now if you look at process, we have done in in magazine, look at process for most people it is insane. >> i want too bring it back. back to what we started out talking about. ron, you make a valid point about what happens with the bills, they become derailed, and a way to get votes, you have to a big pork fest. >> instead of doing what other two guests are doing on air, compromising, this would pass house, compromise there is no citizenship but permanent legal status. but instead of figuring out ho

work together, congress is, doing who can we payoff to pass the votes of this bill, that is what congress has become. liz:ure say if you simplify it, you just focus in. you would not have to have pork going on. >> that is what chairman goodlatte is trying to do. >> peter? >> i would like to see a series of bills that make it clear that the problem is immigration is really hard, and problem is we have a bunch of people here who unauthorized and illegal that need to be legalized. that is what we need to focus on. >> you get last word. >> cbo saying, immigration bill could save american taxpayers to a trillion dollars. liz: they have been off with their numbers. right? >> but, immigration reform needing sorted out.

11 million people. liz: good points, you will be up later. >> how government is trying to make companies hire felons, ex-cons without knowing they are hiring econs up next.

liz: welcome back, the obama administration is suing dollar general, and bmw over alleged unfare use of criminal background checks when they try to hire workers, claiming that screenings discriminate against minorities, now the lawyers, who says that companies should have right to refuse hiring ex-cons. jennifer disagrees, nicole? >> yes, i mean, a company should be able to decide who they want to hire and their criteria,

looking for someone let's criminal history is a legal method of determining whether or not you want to employee that person. liz: jennifer. >> yes, they should have that right to look at a criminal background as a police officer has right to right a ticket to someone who is speeding, but it can be employeed in a discriminatory matter, that is the issue. they cannot use it as a tool to discriminate in same way that police officers cannot use pulling people over, and giving a speeding ticket to a minority group -- liz: but, hang on. we're talking about hiring ex-cons who could put your workers or customers at risk. what is fallout if you can't use this to screen workers. >> companies they can use criminal back history to decide whether employee them, but if a company cannot access this

information or told they can't use it, to hire someone or not hire them, if they hire someone who is dangerous or violent, and steals money, they could be held liable for making a choice about who to have around their customers and customer'ssmoney, they could find themselves on the other end of a lawssit,. liz: >> ahead. >> that is stating the obvious, that is not the issue, issue for example with bmw, they did no process they called transitional period, they required all of these individuals to reapply for their jobs, and after having to reapply, they found some information about certain employees, and they let about 70 african-americans go, one woman, for example, who was on the job 14 years, had -- >> wait a minute. >> let me finiih. >> he had a misdemeanor convict

from 20 years ago. liz: you are turning this into a racist issue. >> it is. liz: this is not a race issue, this is about hiring workers with clean backgrounds, you are turning it into a race issue. >> no, it can be coming a discriminatory practice, studies show that white people with criminal background get called back with a higher percentage than african-americans without criminal backgrounds. if this is used as tool it is unlawful. it violates thevillcivil rights. liz: okay i hear what you are saying, and, of course, that is wrong. they look for high profile company names like bmw to smack them around to make their point,

are we morphing this from a company who should be able to hire who they want into a race issue. >> it sounds leak they are try -- like they are trying to make it a race issue. if they want to hire someone with a criminal history background, that is not necessarily a bad idea but they need to be able to make that choice with the information that is something they should be free to do. >> they are, no one is forcing companies to hire people with criminal backgrounds. liz: why are they suing ? >> they are using the dis cripplthe -- thetool as a discry practice. liz: why should companies not be able to say, i want a ex-con in my workforce. >> they can. liz: so have you no problem with that. >> no, i'm saying. after the fact, you decide want to to get -- >> nobody disagrees with you. they are not doing litigation on cases that are really --

>> i read it, okay i hear. go ahead. >> you know one of these ironic situation, government wants peoy charging them with criminal history that give them criminal history, now when a company tries to use that information that government created, by prosecuting these people, giving them's criminal history, the government getting mad, and wants to to sue, and say you cannot use these so they want to give them a label but they can't use it. liz: we could have gone another half hour on that, great stuff. >> next up, just a few days into summer, as the weather heating up, stocks go down, new worries we're headed for a summer sell-off, don't go away. we went out and asked pe a sile question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave peop sticker and had them show us.

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liz: we had a down day on wall street, dow and s&p on track for their worst month in a year. we have scandals, the fed and klein alchinaall weighing on stt going to be a long hot summer for the market. >> it will, volatility will be key word for the summer. and we're going to continue to be moved by the central markets this central government, bankers throughout the world, have china, you can't leave out the

e.u., and our own fee. tapering mark wet jawboning is -- market with jawboning. liz: jonathan. >> i don't disagree with ben, we'll see enhanced volatility. the risk of buying stocks today has lessened now that markets are off about 5%. liz: you have federal reserve saying, stop the market, we want to get off, does that mean investors should say, we want to get off this ride too or should they buy the downdraft, and sit tight on good stocks? >> investors, normal 10ency to tendence to get off the roller coasting and say stop, if you are in bond market right now, you want to get off the roller coaster without a doubt. that to me interest rate risk is

the biggest scare in your portfolio. on equity side, in broad market, i think that will continue to trade lower in volatility,. liz: how much lower? >> i think another 5% to the down side, china is a new one. liz: your bottom for the dow this summer? >> summer probably, in to -- well below 14,000 range. >> then would you start being then? >> i am buying some equity right now, i -- if -- i vist only buy standard & poors 500 or the find of trucks, no, i'm not a buyer. liz: jonathan your low on the dow? >> i have no idea. >> we both need to sip cocktails in bermuda. give the viewers. >> i do know that there are really good companies out there. that can be had at great companies and great companies

that can be purchased at good prices. i am still a big bull on dividend paying stocks. that is great for all of these retiring americans. liz: the most unreconstructioned bull has to agree maybe the market got ahead of the recovery, so you have to say, is the market really cheap right now? is it historically cheap? i see numbers saying it is cheap. >> i love to have more of a controversy in exchange with mr. murray, i that -- that the way that individual investor should be trading when stocks go on sale, a panic in the world, same way in financial crisis we saw, you have best banks in in on sale for $1 and $2 a share. that is when real money is made,

warren buffet bought a chunk of goldman sachs and made millions of dollars because every el panicked did not want a piece of it. >> you say bay dividend stocks. >> i am. blue chip dividends. to your point about valuation, if you -- look at p/e not only measurement. but one, price earnings ratios, if you look at the p of the dow jones industrial average, it is where of it today, same with s&p 500, but the e, the denominate or is up from $88 a share in s&p 500. to 110 today, so the e is up 30%. liz: corporate earnings are coming in strong, we don't have really like the accounting

shenanigans from prior bubbles. >> the stock market is not china, stock market is not the fed, not qe, it is individual businesses, like fracking and horizon drilling and 3-d printing and big data and cures for cancer. that is what you are investing in. >> a market of stocks. liz: thank you so much. thank you. >> thank you, liz. liz: guess what is back from the dead. no, not the zombies from "world war z," drinkies! yeah, i -- twinkies, yeah yea, g up, don't go away.

liz: i'm happy about this new development, a twinkie homecoming, a movie theater in your home, i am talking about ing about the twinkie story, jonathan

hoenig, scott martin for biz blitz, twinkie making its return. hostess selling the recipe. is it better off without a union worker making it. >> it is, twinkies have been losing money for years now. but you have to guess emack this may not be that tasty of an ending for twinkie. you look at twinkie in marketplace versus more organic healthier options, i don't know anyone that bought a twinkie or a snowball. >> i did, i did. >> without a mask on. >> i don't care, i love it. i love twinkies, and. >> i want a picture. liz: we have zingers coming back, and ho-hos coming back, bing dong -- ding dongs.

>> well, they are americann@ classics, happy they are back, but unfortunately it was unions that was keeping them down, in a free market there are an unlimited aim of jobs that can be created. but it has been so fifth cull for manufacturing -- difficult for manufacturing companies to produce, because the economics have to work, it is great o see private equity visitors, and job cuts and twinkies. liz: i like the company that bought twinkies, they have all major food groups they have pabst blue ribbon beer, and they have -- what are you talking about? >> if you are asking for twinkies to carry the company into sunset you are nuts.

>> all right, you made your point. hoenig you are up first to answer this question, if disney executives are happy with "monsters university." what are they going to do if they can ren them at home -- ren them rat home on same day they are released in movie theaters. >> it is terrific. entertainment companies are innovating, gone are days of standing in line with that big stack of grimy vhs videotapes, they have made getting wonderful films and entertainment, better, cheaper, and more efficient. i think that is would be a big win for studios and th the consumer. liz: does -- are we going to see

in united states, we're seeing it for independent films, you get movies on pay-per-view at same time, they are in the movie theater, is there -- do you see a time in future where viewer at home can watch those same movies the day they are released ? >> i hope so, i think it is a big one. my vhs tapes were never grimy, but, i tell you. liz: they had twinkies all over them and ding dongs. >> you are right, but, situation at movie theater, you go out and fill your tank up with gas, you have to park, nowadays with kids, and people staying home, this is a great idea to stream the stuff to the home. liz: scott, i know you like heallhy living, you will love this next topic. pepsi caving to food police, focusing on being not just a soda company. but healthier options, pepsi

selling yogurt, you are drinking a diet pepsi with your yogurt. >> find of a funny issue, the antittinkie, they are going the other direction, but, do you want to eat yogurt made by pepsi, they have a longstanding reputation in soda, frito-lay chips. liz: joh jonathan. is pepsi responding to the market? >> they are, this is not an appeal to the he'l health conscs people, greek yogurt is like what hot wings was in two two -- 2010, and avocado in 2006, a hot food trend, they areeout to make money, i don't think that america's waistline is their priority. liz: pepsi is not responding to food police, do you think? >> no, but, you have to fit the

company or say product into the image, i'm for them expanding their product, yes, greek yogurt area is growing, but still, fuat the store, you think of pepsi, you buy soda. liz: you know, i for one, dippingn my street's lay chip -- frito-lay chips into my yogurt drinking my pepsi. >> sounds tasty to me. liz: and my ding dongs smeared over with golden mustard how is that. >> you go on those diets, and we'll come back in a year. liz: we'll say woo-hoo with a pabst blue ribbon beer. >> this 4th of july, get ready for fireworks at the super market, your barbecue will burn a hole your wallet. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card

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liz: well, the fourth of july is almost here, before stuart grilling -- start grilling prepared to get grilled at the super market, prices are exploding. so you know what is up? let's ask commodity analyst, phil, what is going to with the food prices going up? >> i tell you, it has a lot to do with a lot of issues emore than anything last year's drought. you know cost of feed for chickens and cattle went through the roof, that is one of the reasons why the price of steak is approaching there are ing th. that is almost un-american, then chicken going up. only thing that is platt right flat right now are hot dogs.

liz: let's bridge it down, are -- break it down, you you having a cheap bas barbecue with cheap food? >> right, you can bring back twinkies. but, you know, the bottom line is that we had a challenging year, when it comes to cattle, next year, i think they will look better, global demand will be down, it looks like we'll have a pretty get crop. the prices should be down, one thing that government continues to want us to pay higher prices they find new ways to do it, instead of taking corn, feeding it to cattle and chicken so my chicken wings are cheaper they put it in our gas tank. they will improve that, that has been another thing, a lot of chicken producers are screaming bloody murder, saying you are driving up the cost offied, it is harder for ni fee -- drivingp

the cost of feed, you are making it harder for me to feed my chickens. it will cost us all more. liz: this is just foolish what you are doing with ethanol and corn in the gas tank, it is not working it is making corn more expensive, and making gas prices more expensive and ruining the gas tank. >> it is, now with this rule buying supreme court, 15% it could do damage to your vehicle. a lot of the carmakers are not going to say that ar warranty is valid, it will be a scary time, but government does not want to hear, that they think this is a good deal, it good for the viermd. yoenvironment, tell that to people in world starving. liz: you know that is say concern, you know ttat poor people, they are not getting the food supply they could. but that point about car

warranty may not cover your gas tank if corn ethanol wrecks it, is that true? >> true, a lot is not just automobile maker, but small engine makers, you know, lawn mowers, saying we produced an engine to protect. 10% ethanol nobody said 15%. the people on other side say, it is not going to impact anything, but tell that, if you have a problem, your gas tank rusts out and you want to get it fixed they will tell you sorry charlie, you are out of luck. liz: why chicken? why is it going up so much. >> the drought last year, remember last super bowl, i was panicked they were talking about a chicken wing shortage that was you know, a throw away item here. and then, then we have shortage,

and a big price spike on chicken wings, then pricing came down, a lot of it has been the drought, feed cost have gone through the roof, you look at price of corn, and it has been through the roof, i do think it is going to ease a little bit, but, you know not fast enough for the 4th of july. liz: you say food prices are going to come down, is that your final word? >> they will come down, we have a good crop this year, china is slowing down a little bit, pricing should come down once government figures out a new way to waste food. >> thank you, phil flynn. >> next up, tech companies fighting back against government snooping, you will not believe the next story, could it be just for show, they gave a big fat award to nsa top guy, we let you in on the next big secret, don't go away.

liz: on the surface tech companies appear to be fighting back against nsa snooping, but you dig deeper, you might come up with a different opinion, a trade group, just gave nsa head general, quote the government executive of the year award for this year. a weird way to express disappointment we're back with peter and ron. >> silicon valley are in bed with the government, former head of facebook security now works for nsa, you look at these lobbying numbers, facebook money on lobbies up 196% last year. liz: here is the thing ron meyer, google and facebook and microsoft, saying that is terrible, we're getting pressure by u.s. to give information over, but have you one of the biggest tech lobby groups giving an worked to the nsa, it the tech crowd, is it like wall street with turn style between

silicon valley and washington, d.c.? >> well, it makes business sense to do it unfortunately that is the problem. liz: why all of the shock, shock? you know from "casablanca" on part of the tech crowd when they do this on the side. >> you talk about two different parts of the company, one is the pr side talking with customers, other is lobbying side talking with government, they don't want people to think that is what they are doing, but they are, from a consumer perspective this worries me, young people are furious over this we have some companies we trust with most private information working with the government, and allowing them to do the large general warrant. >> peter does this under cut tech crowd credibility. >> the big tuck companies like -- tech companies like google and facebook are if a tough position, thee have to ask is it more trouble to work with the

government? liz: not my question. is this under cut their credibility when tech lobby is giving an award to head of nsa, and we have a turn style between silicon valley and washington d.c., with law enforcement. and surveillance crowd. >> you know, certainly is does not make it easier for them, that is my point. >> does it under cut their cred bill tie. >> does not make itize why are tize -- easierto oppose the gov, i'm trying to say they have a tough choice to make, when federal government comes knocking on their door, they have to decide do we answer or not. lizz does it under cut their credibility when they get so upset ? >> of course it does, on many levels we should have expected it. we knew, but problem is money

and politics. american politicians spend over $7 billion last year, getting reelected, they have to raise that money, and get it from somewhere, they get it from big business. liz: you know, ron, the question, i'm thinking, could tech crowd have avoided this. could they have -- tech crowd have gone around this, said, we're going to like we sell our information to advertisers, tech crowd makes money marketing from giving in account to marketers -- giving information to marketers, could they say we'll sell the information to the government. >> well i think that would be a more open process, i think it -- might make people read the terms of agreement when you join these sites, if you know your information is going to the government. i feel that users don't know that, it would be a more open

process. >> peter, tech crowd is feeling put in a corner. go ahead. >> i mean, with question of whether or not they could have sold it, you have to ask, whether the federal government would have been willing to pay for it the issue that tech community has learned that it is difficult to ignore requests of the federal government, if you call them requests. >> quote, unquote. >> they are demands, microsoft tried in 90s and found out activity easier to play ball. liz: but why could they have said you can -- you know stomp your feet all you like we'll sell it to you. >> tell that to a court order. >> whether federal government would have paid. liz: i hear what you are saying ron about the court, but, you know i understand the weight and authority of the court, i get it but you know, these are not you know, the lilies of the valley, they are big companies.

and they are going to buckle under a fisa court order, i understand they have to comply. but do you feel they could have put up more of a fight. >> i think it is a double standard, you add google opposing internet regulation bill last year, they are companies of people, when it looks good for them, and good to be in with government they are, they are losing a ton of credibly. lizcredibly. >> go ahead. >> they want government on their side for tax, and antitrust legislation, and legislation to privacy, of course, they are not going to turn to government say go away. liz: you say, they can't, they would poison the well of goodwill. >>i'm saying they need government on their side. liz: all right, peter, final word. >> i guess i feel like you know, too much to -- it may be too much to expect facebook and google to really put up a huge amount of resistance given their

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