and that's it for tonight on "the willis rert." thank you for joining is. have a great night and we will see rht back here tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. thank you for being with us. a second consecutive day of triple digit gains on wall street. the market is ignoring a downward revision of three month old first quarter gdp numbers. the market is instead gaining in heading back toward the 1000 threshold on the numerous positive economic reports and federal reserve forecasts or the past o weeks. the rally began when the opening bell. the dow jones industrials gaining 150 points on the day. the down up for two consetive trading session now three over the past four since it lost 500 points in a 2-day timeframe last wednesday and thursday.

the dow is now up nearly 14% year-to-date. up an incredible 128 percent since the lows of 2009. the s&p jng today's rally, picking of 15 points. the broader market of over 12 percentf the year. an up nearly 140% since march of 2009. the nasdaq gaining 28 points on the d. the tech coriente index up nearly 12% on the year. and, the nasdaq has almost trled, growing over 166 percent since march of 20009. the wilshire 5,000 measuring the day's pape gains of $175 billion. north that grows percent over 2 trillionn gns in market capped year today. investors today with only two days remaining in the second quarter of trading dismissed a lower revision in first quarter gdp and, instead, focused on far

more fresh readings on housing, manufacturin, and csumer confidence and forward-looking indicators on an economy that is now showing signs of increasing vigor and strength. wall street rallying as a result and turning t washington, the supreme court concluded its term by delivering to blockbuster rulings on gay-rights. the defense of marriage act and california prosition eight. the court delivered to victories for equal rights, the high court striking down a key element of the defense of marriage act and determined that defenders of california's proposition eight ban on gay marriage did not have legal standing to appeal the llwer court rulingsgainst proposition eight. foxews supreme court correspondent shannon green with the report. >> reporter: the supreme court handed since its -- same-sex marriage advocates to significant wins, for striking

down a portion of the defense of marriage act which had bought same-sex cples, even if legally married in their respective states fought for collecting various federal benefits anthony kennedy sai, the federal statute is invalid. for no legitimate purpose ovcomes the purpose and effect to disparage a to enterhose in an estate by his marriage laws sought to protect them person had and dignity. there were three separate dissents, the most fiery from justice antonin scalia was second ads by the majority assurances that this particular decision was not passing judgment on the underlying issue of the legality same-sex marriage, therefore bypassing the will of individual states and voters. we might hav covered ourselves with honor today, but promising all sides of thisebate that it was theirs to settle in that we would respect their resolution. the court is cheated both sid. the original plaintiff cried when she heard the news. >> into the justices of the supreme court, thank you for

affirming the principle oqual justice under the law. lou: former psident bill clinton who signed it into law after it passed congress with strong bipartisan majorities today applauded the court's decision along with president obama also had pivoted on the issue. defenseecretary place to immediately begin determining how the pentagon will rollout federal benefits for leglly marry me-sex couples. in the second ruling, the court found that supporters of california's pp. eight measure which amended the state constitution to recognize marriage between only one man and one woman did not have lal standing to defend the statute after state officials refuse to do so. that -- what is left is the district's decision which struck down proposition eight. >> today is a great day. ended -- into this building and we always see those words, equal justice under law. today we are closer to the quality. >> reporter: traditional marriage advocatesoint out at same-sex marriagestill up to the state and urged their supporters to stay engaged. >> i think the message ive

clear. if you do not proactively acts to protect marriage afterrthe politicians and judges will political from under you. >> reporter: officials wil send issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, but the ninth circuit will first up the list as -- left totem the case. technical step to a state's attorney general has asked the court to take immediately. lou: thank you. shannon green, fox news supreme court correspondent. our first guest say today's ruling by the supreme courttdoes not have, they say come any effect on existing state definitions a marriage. but both praise the high court's ruling othe voting rights act. it immediately if excs of 15 states will be a will to implement ls, including voter identification requirement who have -- without having to ask the justice department for permission. joining us now, two state attorneys general, luther strange to my attorney general of alabama, allan wilson of south carolina will be joining as here in moments.

first, good to have youith us. let's start with these two decisions on equal rights. the effect that you perceive at it might have, if any on the state of alabama. >> well, under the case today i n't think there will be any effect on the ste of alabama. repass the citizens of alabama passed a constitutnal amendmt in 2006, the sanctity of mriage act. i don't think that the ce affects that law a all. i expected to remain in effect. i'm coming of the recent report to my ticket makes the point i am always maintained. these issues are ones that ought to be decided by the voters of the state based upon their understanding of the issues an their democratic result. that is the principle that i hope will sw through in today's decision. >> in the defen o marriage tax cut maternity that, it has -- i leaves existing law intact. states also, it seems to be, at

least in the early interpretations, not stick be infringing upon, but ratr embrace a sta'sight do you agree with that interpretation? >> i do. that is the interetation i am taking away from it. in that thinr point, the two cases tether, the shelby county case, the case in alabama dealing with the voting rights ac was another big victory for the state of alabama. really for the constitution because a lot -- allows states to be treated equally and recognizes 50 years of bad -- fantastic progress n race relations with i'm very proud of and leaves in place provisions that allow people challenge any activity by any government body tt they think depves them of their rights about. lou: and a lot to share with the audience, everyone watching and listeninto you, some statistics on alabama. because this requirement under section four that was struck

down today and requiring, as a resslt, that its effect will be at section five willo away because section for a formula has been invalidated by the supreme court. but looked at wt has been going on, if you will. let's take a quick look at the statistics on the state of alabama. it actually has a larger percentage of african american voters registered and voting. less than 01 percent gap between black and white voters, and alabama black voters are actually participating i greater percentage numbers than white voters in the state of alabama. why would that not just be automatically persuasive to the justice department's -understand the requirement here to challenge and the supreme court. but in case aft case after

case. and the states have shownn measurable progress, why could that not be recognized b this justice deptment? >> well, this justice department has shown a very high propensity to make race an issue when it is not. and in alabama weave made by years of progress. the voting rights act was a necessary, very appropriate and effective remedy for some awful behavior, behavior from the 1960's and 70's. th is 50 years ago. alabama has made tremendous progress. if you compare, interestingly, the court said, congress can be passed this law and a fine jurisdictions that need toe covered by the law. i think if they did tt there would find alabama far outpaces states in terms of minority participation in o percentage of minority elected officials. lou: among those selected for

the obama justice department review under the voting rigs act. i want to turn, if i m, to center sessions, something that he said in support of what you have just pointed out. we have heard from the president that it was very disappoting on the voting rights act. jesse jackson called the devastatinglow. harry recall that a dark day for the supreme court. this senator jeff sessions said i don't kw what would be needed after this. if anybody discrimat, voters against voters in alabama because of the color of their skin, they will go toail if there is any pof to that. that was not so in 1965. i thi tha is a straightforward acknowledgment of immense proess in the advancement that this country is made. and i think it is frankly

disappointing, if i may use the president's word, that our prideet would say it is disappointing and attorney general chief law-enforcement officer not to acknowledge the immense progress that your state, others under this voting rights act have made over the course of 50 years. it is astonishing to me. >> it is extraordinary. people like me. twelve years old in965. voting -- devoted the public free to make sure people of treated fairly. generational, he haseen dead for 40 years. we have a fantaic diverse economy endears population and alabamm. we know better are worse than other states in the union. that is was so important. this is what this recognizes. we could now be truly, in this area like any other state in that we, the messes up, i'm going to hold accountable. we are not claiming to be perfect, but we deserve to be treated like every otherta and given the tremendous progre we have made. lou: a we have beenalking

with the attorney general of alabama throughout because we have had some satellite problems you want to bring in now as we had. the attory general of south carolina. great to have you with this on the broadca asell. sorry for the technical problems. made as to do for your participation for a while. your reaction to first the cision, the pposition a deci today. then i want to get to the voting rights act as i have been talking with luthertrange of alabama. >> well, we are still digesting the opinion like people across the country are. what we can tell right now is that this is not going to have a foreseeable impact on sth carolina's definition of marriage. also, the committee reaffirmed that the feeeral gernment cannot interfere with the state's right to define what marria means. this does not have the foreseeable impact on a feature of south carolina as it relates to that issue.

lou: how muc of a complication is that for the state's that have defined, as have thetate of alabama, as have thetate of south carolina, as both o you have pointed out, year two states have defined marrie as between a man and a woman, banning same-sex marriage. >> well, in my personal opinion, whh es back to, i think that the people of t state in his -espective sovereign should be able to decide for themselves other one to define marriage. this is truly a state issue, and i think in that regard the supreme court was right. you know, what's going to happen from here going forrd, i cannot one as to what will happen in the future, but i think anytime u leave to the people of the states to how they want toovern themselve that is the right way to approach the issue. lou: starting to look like a constitutional republic with a strong federaliit structure. i don't know what's going on. but i have to catch my breath here a bit.

i want to, if i me to buy ares come to -- some statistics on sou colina and point out that al wilson, the state of south carolina, they want an important case last year in which their voter identification law was upheld by a federal panel, much i'm sure to the surprise and disappointment of this attorney general th is, of course, eric holder and the president, but i wanted to share with you what the statistics are. as of the 2012 election in south carolina. 76 percent of registered voters are black compared to 73% of registered white voters. the tual perntage of those who voted, 69 percent of black voters casting ballots. and just over 63 and a half% of white voters are voting. that is an impressive record. a sort of is surprising that

eric holder would not be impressed wh those kinds of statistics. >> well, those are impressive stattics. voting rights act and the think it was unnecessary love that we needed in 1965. the formula that was created under the voting rights act. mighthat it was before ias born. lou: pointing out how you are here. and 90 and a stated in the country, i have been told. rn in 1973, the last time it was amended was in the '72 election. lou: weet you knew this by your lackerience. are you impressed? >> i am. but, you know, the point is tha south carolina and alabama and other jurisdictions like us are now after 40 plus years about to come out of the penalty box. there are aon-public jurisdictions that stion five in 49 apply to that have rced african-american vot turnout and south carolina and alabama

respectively. i think that when you're loing at trying to determine ways to prevent racial discrimination he should do in a way that is nearly focus. the 64 election, the formula, not the proper way to prevent that kind of conduct. so carolina and alabama. lou: as hashe entire country. i am disappointed that our national leaders have ot seize the opportunity of this, of these decisions or this week which are historically. to point out how far this country has come, the president has been made, and instead expressedeep disappoinent, it's not the stuff of leaders that is within a objtively and the people. this is a nation, a remarkable nation on every level and should

be accorded the respect by its leaders. attorneys genel luther strange and alan wilson, we thank you for being with us. this historic supreme court series a ruling. sit with us. the immigration plan to pass the senate tax to the so-called border surge. will of theinal say. the realities of immigration in [ larry ] youw throughout history,

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♪ lou: the second straight rally on wall street today. all ten s&p sectors gaining more than three-fourths of all the stocks traded on the big board moving highe volume on the big board, three

and half million shares. the economy first quarter gdp growth revised. down from an estimate of 24%. nobody really cares because tt was three months ago when just about everye in the business has been talking about it. it's kind of silly, in point of fact. goldlumming $45 today to just below 1200. $30 per ounce, the lowest level in nearly that three years. the bond market, yields on the chin yearell president obama, the first family of arriving inetting all. kicking off a week-long three country trip to africa. expected to cost taxpayers around $100 million partly because president obama is traveling with a hug delegation an extended family including his mother-in-law and niece. the president will bin senegal

. he fred -- he snds the weekend in suth africa leaving tanzanian early next week. new trouble for the internal revenue service. the second irs official today refusing to answer congressional questions at a house oversight committee hearing looking into whether he improperly awarded federal contrac, ready for this, with half a illion dollars to a french company. >> mr. rose men, are you currently employed by the irs? mr. chairman, on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer any questions and to revoke teeseven but my fifth amendment privilege to remain quiet. >> are you prepared to answer any questions today? >> no. lou: that fellow h an interestg look. repeated four times that he would not answer questions before he was excused from the hearing together. certnly that was nothe only

drama at the hearing. the president of the company that was awarded those questionable contracts also came under fire from an iraqi war veteran and a double amputee. she heads -- she accused a man of misrepresenting from nearly three deces ago in order t gain the veterans affairs system and obtain preferential treatment for his companies bidding on irs contracts. >> does it hurt, your left foot? >> yes, ma'am. >> my feet hurt, t. in fact, the balls of my effort -- feed burn continuously and i feel like their is a male being limited to mright here right now. did you enjoy the same foot again subsequently says the use the twisted in prep school? >> not to my recollection. of your recollection? okay. lou: probably the mildest exchange returned to. that geneman insisted he did not misrepresent his injury even

though he was giv a 30 percent disability rating by the veterans affairs. congresswoman deborah, by the way, a 20 percent disability rating on her arm. up next, 15 republican senators to support the gang of eight immigration bill. @% the "chalk talk" will take a look at weather states they represent signal doom for the bill perhaps in the house. ♪ there is a pursuit we all share. a better life for your family, a better opportunity for your business, a better legacy to leave the world. we have always believed in this pursuit, striving to g insight to every investment, and integrity to every plan. we are morgan snley. and we're ready work for you.

♪ lou: the senate today working to ve the immigration, the gang of eight immigration lislation ahead. thatang of a bill on track for a vote which some say could come on friday. not expected to be much of a surprise. the senate held a tt vote monday on a border security amendment for the bill and it passed by a sizable margin, 67- 27 with support, wide awake, 15 republicans. what i far fm certain and certainly in doubt is that bi'suture in the house of representatives. we thought we will show you why, and it is something that no one, as far as we know is talking about. you waed to make sure you are

awareeof this. the states represented that a 55 of 15 senate republicans who backed the so-called border arch a minute, they have 56, 56 republican house members who they might influence thrrugh their state. and -- end, the states reprented by the 30 republican senators to oppose the amendment indicated that they would have voted no, 123 hou members, they might well influence. another argument for immigrati reform legislation put forth by a gang of eight member lindsay gramm is thatithout it the republan party will lose hispanic support. well, heres something else to consider. there are 234 gop congressional districts represented by republicans. hispanics make up an avera of 11 percent of the ccnstituents

in as districts. now, 201 congressional districts are represented by democrats. hispanics their make up more than twice as large a percentage of the constituents in a dirict. and finally. there is the argument that there is sweeping support across the country for giving illegal immigrants a path the citizenship. the use members are being somewhat reluctant, and they are convind that in some measure th may not berue. they have holes, by the way, to as -- polls, by the way, to assess all of this. the national journal finds nearly half of all republican journals, ha of them say they're less likely to support their lawmaker for reelection i he or she votes for legislation that gets a path to citizenship d add that to the fact that the house speaker will not bring rward a measure that cannot win a majority of his own caucus

and it is pretty clear that anyoneaying immigration reform is a dondeal in the house of representatives, well, let's just say that obviously, obviously not necessarily so. more scandals erupt in the obama administration. the irs still under fe. another irs official takes the fifth. a congressman joins us to analyze the fireworks of today's house oversig committee hearing.

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♪ lou: well, everybody is looking for him. three days after h arrived at moscow's main airport from hong kong edward snowden may be entering a legally ambiguous area since his u.s. passport has been revoked and a russian transit visa is good for only 72 hours which might tecically mean that hes there with an

expired transit visa. ecuador also signalling it is not ready to welcome edward snowden with the open arms many had expected. itsoreign minister now saying a decision on granting edward snowden asylum would take several months. there may be more to all of this than originally thought. we will find out. my next guest was in the house oversight committee hearing today and says the irs is now an institution that in his judgment is terminally ill. joining us now is congressman ron the santos, a member of the house overs in judiciary committee. good to ve you with us, congressman. >> thank you for having me. lou: i have t say, when that fellow sat in that chaiand looked at the congressman, i mean, that is one of the most infuriating images i have seen a long time. how could you stand it? >> this is a guy whoho injured s foot when he was in military prep school and never served active duty at all.

yet 27 years later he claims a service-connected disabilities to bable to get preferential treatment and to qualify for these proams. it was obviously a fleecingf th taxpayers and an abuse of his service disability. i have to tell you, i am a rmer prosecutor. i see more people with the irs take the fifth amendment and i did when i was prosecuting cases. this is the second person in about six weeks that has done it and t problem that i see with this is, one, the american people are getting answers, but we need to -- when these individuals take the fifth we know that there was misconduct because that is plain to see. nothingappens. estimates today was placed on administrative leave. he steered 500 million with the context of his buddy, a company that had but $250,000 in total revenue before the irs got involved.

lo did he break the law? >> i think, certainly there were laws w broken. if you look at the relationship that they had. if he looked at the amount of money at stake and if you look at the fact that this w a company that did not do very much business in an all the sudden -- >> right. >> well, for two years prior to this it did about $250,000 in wrap -- revenue. of a sudden in 2012 and the individual units and who claimed the disability purchase the company they start getting millions and millions of dollars worth of irs work. and so it's not above board, but the problem is is we always see these things happen. people and the irs say we are identifying problemsnd need more training. the problem goes much deeper. a culture of arrogan, an institutn. lou: what you guys goi to do about it? me, wha we're watching here -- the irs cannot even appently find it nor can this president

find a person to serve as commissioner of the internal revenue service, its acting commissioner, acting commissioner, d drug commissioner this is an organization, you say ey are terminally ill. what are you going to -- what are you going to do to get this thing fixed and bring in somebody wit the iegrity to leave the organizationot to get this strghtened out? gumi, this is -- i mean, we have 16,0 new agents being hired soon. just for obamacare. >> obviously in the house we would like to do a major overhaul. we would like to all these people accountable. we are limited. we will bring lerner back because he waived the fifth amendment right on friday. the stance of the american pele's question. the problem is that the executive branch is not really interested in investigating and holding people accountable. we have the director of the fbi in front of the judiciary committee a couple of weeksgo

and he did not even know who was leading the irs investigation. that tells me department of justice is notttoo concerned withhis problem. lou: use it on the judiciary committee. you all have certain influences the you can bring to bear. this is going to have to be, it seems to me, if you feel that there is a lack of popular will around the outrage that is obviously bot in washington and other parts of the country, i mean, you have to do something here in a different way. perhaps faster, perhaps deeper. more staff, more --nd more flights to put in front of the erican people. absolutely. i think we also need to understand that from a policy perspective the irs is really passed its point of usefulness and we need to move to a fair or flat tax and give the government less power over the individual and allow peoe to be ae to makehis is i for themselves so then this with you wld not have to worry about these irs

officials misbehaving. lou: congressman i would love have a fair tax, a flat tax, a set percentage, just like i think most americans. i thinknef the surest ways to damage the investigation right now is for you all to get caught up in tax-cut reform when what you have to do is get rid a bunch of snakes in our really lousy, lou, corrupt management at the irs. >> amen. lou: thank you for being with us. always good to talk with you. good luck. up next, anothhr triple digit gains on wall street. did i mention that? despite some folks to thought, oh, iestors will get all excited about a 3-month they will look at the economy. they didn't. anothe rally. we're coming right back.k. ♪ with the spark cash card from capital one... boris earnrns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, ease? thank you. that's three new paper shredders.

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lou: breaking news. senate majoritleader harry reid setting up the final cloture vote to cut off the date on the gate of the immigration bill tomorrow. the final parliamentary hurdle that the legislation has crossed . with the senate on course to vote on final passage of the bill friday. the final vot requiring a simple majority if the cloture vote succeeds. my next guest says, as we talk about wall street in this economy, bad news has become good news in large measure for part of the market. he is looking for -- we will let him tell you. joining us now withhhis outlook on the market to my global head of institutial equity derivatives at counter fitzgerald. great to have you withhis. >> thank you for having me. lou: what is your outlook? we have people talking about the fed, erybody says, you know, what's going on? >> wwll, last ti i was here in early may we talked about the

messag stimulus that had come from the fed a the bank of japan. i think we agree that that was ally their cue that the markets we looking a. then on may 22nd something changes, chairman bernanke actually came out himself, the chairman camout and said, we are thinking about tapir. that had a real effect on rates. rates had an effect on the u.s. uity market. lou: and what is really funny about that is everything he said , if people would listen. i think those -- i think there are computers that are not listening and some hedge fund managers,,ieally want to examine them carefully, the thought process. the fact is heesaid have good the ecomy was, how strong it was. the date for tapering would still be in the year. everybody dided, apparently, and that today timeframe that the federal reserve chairman was stupid, as were all of his

cohorts. i mean, it is just as if rean was suspended in that today timeframe where we saw 500 points evaporate. >> wel you know, the interesting thing abouthat was that the fed actuallyevised do its forecast. lou: say that again. >> revised down the forecast. that is a bit contradictory to talking about tapering. so in a way there was a mixed message, and that the people were frankly a bit confused by. lou: they were coused and then deciding on tuesday to offer clarity o whether it -- the way the "wall street journal" reported. if that was clarity, give us a little ambiguity. >> my take on the statement was that he was testing the mket. he wanted to see how the market would react to the expectation of the tapering to the end of the year. obviously it did not react well.

>> the case for it may be if the fed is stupid because if they did not know what happened when it performed as they did, i mean, where have they been? the federal open market committee this still the veterans and bright, bright minds. what they have de this, to me, wondrous. now this week we have everything is fine. let's take a look get all the numbers, and if you look at these new is numbers, people talking about seeing a revision of almt 2% in 1st quarter gdp, that nonsense is three months old. nobody wants to pay attention to that. we hav clothes, new readings that say just about, without exception, every major report with a business conference, housing, durable goods, you name it, is the only positive, we are looking at nice of fiv to a ar's back. >> it depends what you're looking at. buy liggett durable-goods numbers, yes, i completely agree that that was a very strong

numb. we have some other readings in e dallas fed came out with very strong expectations. however, if you look a week does not trend make in my mind. so if you lack the data over time and you looked at it on a weekly basis of for example, chicago. lou: can i interrupt because we're out of time, but the fact of the matter is these markets are reacting i'm just almost a hair trigger basis tohort-term data points and input. and i agree with you about the long trend. i think every investor who has a brain is investing long-term. but that is not whathe market has been doing a we would not be looking at 11200. swings says the 22nd of may >>ould not agree more. lou: barrell look really good if you can. >> well, for the rest of the year, we may balance a little bit more because i think the fed will have some rhetoric that says, you know, well, maybe we won't take progressily been abuzz think we will weaker into the air.

lou: all right. we thank you very much. i ow these things are not disappointing to you as you trade these markets. we wish you continued success. >> thank you. lou: up next, a florida jury hearg a lot more about george zimmerman's passe. and why is theartin family in the courtroom, but not george zimmerman? "dobbs law" next. ♪

♪ lou: joining us now on today's historic supreme court ruling, two victories for equ rights, fox news legal analyst, criminal

defense attorney, criminal defense attorney. thank you both for beinglet me y quickly. the defense ameritech decision, do you think it is rightly, correctly reasoned and concluded? >> just an idea, and it was a long time coming. so it is a very big win. lou: a very big win. >> i tnk it is a medium-sized wind. at think there was this pervasive. lou: you're going toight. >> i think mt people were hoping that somehow some way the supreme court was going to legalize gay marriage across the board. that did not happen, but it is a good step in the right direction. lou: this seems to me that this is a very, if i may say, decisiony the supreme court. states' rights are assertednd given great, if you will, vitality by this decision, not? >> is,hey have. throat -- throughout the decisions.

and it saying that marriage, domestic issues, those are to be decided by the state. lou: and proposition eight, california opening up a marriage as of right, throwing his decision back. >> in california and curious. we should have 12 states plus the district of columbia. i want t see how many more states follow through and how quickly. lo 37 states banning gay marriage right now. the voting rights act, of controversy because the president and attorney general but saying they were sappoiointed and upset. attorneys general across the country cheering and particularly those affected by section four and five of the voting rights act. a good decision? >> well, i'm not going to policies saying it is a good decision. the issue here, as justice roberts wrote inis decision was that this is from 1975.

the issue i had is we have made strides, but it has been under the voting rights act. once it is gone, when section four and five, are we going to go back? stay where we are now, move forward? and that is an issue that we have not released as dupont. lou: i talk about the issue the attorneys general of alabama and south carolina. sout carolina winning its voter identification lawsuit against the justice department. those states have that incredible statistical support for their procedures and loss. this is -- i cannot see why we want to hang on to something that is immaterial to the outcome. >> and that is a rlly good point. the wealthy that decision is the federal government is saying we're not going to babysit you, but if you missed the eighth we will step back in and do something about it. th is irate. lou: attorneys general, allan

wilson of south carolina, those are two attorneys general, as the ministers of the law, not the language to phrase this -- the editorial laws and thiis, they're going to sue tm, but them in jail. >> the issue is sometimes there is conduct thatalls below being illegal and what do you do in that sittion? >> well, i don't think that you want to a politicize the justice department because -- and this seems to be an in powering for politicized justice departments. that is another part of the issue. ms. zimmerman trial. that wasf the peculiar to me as a cross examination today. >> a, i thought that the defense closed on a wonderfulote. they got this witness to come by the way to my daughter was weakk shaky, they get her to say that she did know. the jors now are left with

that comment as they go on tonight and deliberate this. until tomorrow morning, and she will be back on t stand. i don't know a lot you, but i thoughshe showed a lot of frustration. frustrations f being witness. lou: usa, give me a question. >> her credibility. when you want a star witness, the star witness does not have to be mother teresa onhe stand, but she has got to be believable or you might as well discount everything she said. and the jurors to who -- if they think she is lying about one thing bill have to believe anything. >> and there has been in formation that she has not been truthful, honest about her age. see also light. >> exactly. exactly. lou: well -- >> she lied. she lied. lou: i have to be very caref.

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