>> irs targets tea partiers, news all that bad for conservative groups, they could get a consolation prize, a check for $1,000. welcome i am charles payne in for neil cavuto, irs is with a new plan to deal with growing scandal, a watch dog and an agency calling for irs to get targeted groups $ 1,000. that is right they call it, an apology payment. tapetea party's say it is a ins. >> you know, that is what they don't get.

not about the bunny, it has nothing to do with the money, if they offer of $100 thousand, nevvr to be audited by irs gain, i would not take it, are they trying to bribe us to silence, this is about freedom and liberty and freedom of speech, it is not about money, it is about overreach of federal government into the lives of individuals who have the right to express their views like anybody else. >> but, it seems to me, by them making this offer a step toward acknowledging or admitting something was wrong, they did something reprehensible. at least a step in the right direction. >> seems silly they are giving us $1,000 of our own money, it our money, that is just it. they abuse their authority, in this agency, i -- honestly, you know i would think that this

could be all resolved, if lois lerner is fired, and rose man fired, these individual on taxpayer funded vacations -- i mean administrative live. let's just abolish the irs, and have states handle this and allocate it like that, that would be antic lent way to say, we're -- an excellent way to say we're sorry. >> i love, they have to be "sicko" fan tick -- i want to say, you have a lawsuit, your group filed a lawsuit against the irs, i imagine seeking some sort of financial gain as well? >> well, it is not just a lawsuit on behalf the norcal tea party, on all of the conservative groups that were targeted by the irs, this is a class-action lawsuit. that will represent all of the groups, many of the groups folded after this, many of the grrups could not do any

fundraising, they lost income, and it is just too make right the wrong that the irs did. so, this is something that is being file was filed in cincinnati, it represents, the little people, the little groups, the groups that could not survive this attack by the irs. on to them, and for the ridiculous amount and burden of information they were demanding from us, most of it not even within the framework of the 501 c we were after. >> you know, dane argue may -- dana, you may have an allie with person that made this offer nina olson runs a national taxpayer advocate that came up with apology payment, in 2007, she saw where things were not right, she went to the organization,

and they told her she did not have the thundershowers to intervene. -- the authority to intervene. maybe this is what way to mutt this on table, the word apolicy, gee, i know -- apology, to hear the word apology acknowledges that someone wrong was done. >> completely. i am still going to refuse to same it for me personally, i travel all, round the country i met with a number of differenting or nicers, we're tucking about free -- different oorganizers are you are talking about free speech is up seisandyoupression. you have the irs, which is question ifreespeech.

a huge problem, i want to see it abolished. i'm done with this. next april, i think everyone should plead the give that. >> that would be wonderful. are you happy with the direction that on capitol hill that is going? are we chipping away behind the veil of yone i don't knows and e firsts. >> it is difficult to say, one thing to remember it is great that congress has come to party now. but, remember, that the congress was started by the irs. it is funded by irs, and overseen by irs. -- congress oversees the irs. funded them and started it, so, you know, i just wonder how far they will go on this. and i do believe that it is up to we the people, to see to it that justice is served with the irs. and i am on with dan dana, let't

rid of the irs. it is an overreaching constitutional reach of the government, so maay people from our group have contacted me, and said, i can't donate to you any more, i can't go to any more of your meetings, i'm afraid that irs will come after he. that is tyranny. >> that was probably the ultimate goals, to your points, this is only supposed to be temporary, the tax thing. >> and voluntary too. >> a hundred years past true date, i'm on the same page as you, keep up the fight. >> thank you. >> for 6 tim second time an irs official needs the fifth. >> mr. chairman on advice of council i respectful decline. >> that deputy director refusing to answer questions about a half

billion dollar contract awarded by irs, the contract was reportedly before ton a good friend of the guy now refusing to talk. he learned from lois lerner. >> now to the judge who says they should talk, why? >> charles, this is very frustrating to the american people, and those of us who watch this for a living. to american taxpayer. we are theirre our employees. and they are privileged not on answer our questions, if roger who runs fox put me into his @%fers and asked me questions relevant about my job, and i refused to answer, he could fire me and have every right to do so, because he is not the

government, government is constrained by the fifth amendment, that same one that would let youe or me remain silence in the courtroom. >> do you think that this goes, maybe you look at this differently than you, i look at it, maybe they don't think they work for me and you, maybe they think that their boss is 1600 pennsylvania avenue, that they are doing what he may want them to do. by keeping shut? >> i don't think that there is any question that is what they think. i agree with everything your two previous guests said as well withurure our colleagues there s a culture in the irs that we work for them. there is a culture in the irs that our property is theirs before it is ouus, this is some support for that but look, there is a way to get these people to speak, lawful way, if congress

were to give immunity, they would lose their fifth amendment protection, they would have an obligation, speaking they would go to jai until they spoke, the other way to charge one of them with the crime but that involves the executive branch, i don't think we'll see the day where a federal prosecutor working for the obama administration decides to charge one of these people with a crime. the third thing that congress can do is remove their personal immunity this nonsense about pay are $1,000 organization from taxpayer dollars if it came from personal assets of the irs, agents and management, who abused their authority, then you would see that abbse stop overnight. >> if you gave them all three options, the last one they would not take at all. the first one, i think a few may grab, but, you how do you feel. you watch the proceedings, i

watch it feels there is one set of people, ostly republicans, and another set, i say the to say democrats playing defense. are we every going to be able to find out the drawing th trulghts going right now. >> no wrong so unless they indict someone, unless president unleashes his minions and unlocks their silencinn the irs, we'll never find out. charles this is not just a republicans are good democrats are bad, both parties do this one of the reasons that irs has broad discretion it has to tighten screws of one set of the 5 -- and because whoever is in the wwite house wants to be able to use irs as a personal tool of

terror, and presidents from both parties have done it. >> you are right. >> not to he the extent that president obama has done it. >> and anyone who is blocking and tackles right now should remember that. to your point, the staking get raised, and the big losers seem to be liberty and the american people. >> you got it, and our property. >> all right. and our assets. >> and hard earned dollars. >> all right, want to keep going? [ laughter ] judge, you know, have you been preaching this stuff from day one, almost every time i pick up the paper and read about it i think of you first, i appreciate you taking out time. >> thank you, charles. >> thank you. >> now if you are eepecting a big raise from work, expect to to pay for your health insurance, a new surprise that is raising more questions about healthhcare law, if you are a business, here is 8 words you do

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charles:es good news, you just got a raise, bad news all that money will be paying for your healing care, many companies re turning to salary base premium system, that means that more you make, more you will pay in premium. that raise is more or less rendered useless. just one of the many surprised from the law. dee dee. >> i don't think there are raises ever, a lot of people don't have jobbed after obamacare, a lot of the businesses are being crushed by burden of obamacare, they get rid of jobs, full time, they are making them part time, or getting rid of their business, a total failure. charles: we know that businesses make adjustment, input costs go up their prices go up, somehow they find a way to make the employees pay for it, or general

public, this health care law is not different. >> absolutelize, it happened at firmer work at, a lot of young people have to go out now, to find their own health care policies, and premiums are through the roof. a lot of the young voters who supported president obama are paying a verily price for government mandated health care, on other hand, i am a schall school board member, on our school system we gave teachers a raise they deserved, it went to paying for higher healthcare premiums, you are right. raises, they are gone, they are all going to this new government run health care. charles: carlos, you missed memo about shared sacrifice. >> christian we talk about a new health care law, it was sold something of economic benefits after it was passed we hear over and over, not about economics but about fairness and people getting coverage, don't complain

about the crof cost or price pa. >> it is till about economics, health care costs have slowed in terms of their growth, specifically with medicare. >> is that dumping a bunch of people on medicate? >> no, overall healthcare spending going down, people have not been getting raises for the last 10 years, most has been going to health care spending as it is, obama care has not brought any new dynamics, still the same. employers would rather send money on health wear. charles: sometimes, carlos, they don't have a choice, do they? this is a new fact of life, and the consequences could be severe particularly for employers, and they have to figure out a way to find this money.

>> absolutely, one of big problem that obamacare did not address the real issues we have with health care, i'm sit here in health care fraud capital of u.s., my hometown, one reason our premium keep rises there is mo much fraud, and obamacare does little ifin anything to address the issues there are a lot of companies out there with good solutions. but none of that shaping, so, there is more fraud, and who is paying? teachers, young people, that is the raw deal we're getting with obamacare. >> and speaking of fraud, i have to bring up this, part of the agency that is going to help imminenimplement this, irs, thoe the line dancers they put "star trek" training video together, they will be polices obamacare, that is fantastic! >> to your point, it feel like almost of day there is something new, a new cost we discovered, i

know that nancy pelosi said we have to waited, but i did not understand she was talking about opening a pan do pandora's box,, the gift that keeps on giving. >> democrats are not happy about it either, do you hear anyone praising obamacare, they are getting it. people realize this is not so good, not good for republicans, democrats or independence eit is bad for american. >> wait,. charles: bring chris back? >> in every place where health care exchange has been set up we've seen healthy care premium offered that are lower than %-implementation f exchanges. so this is producing lower cost. charles: christian, i want to ask, i know yyu are a proponent of this, you love the president. are you somewhat worried or concerned about how it has gotten out of the starts gate?

slutly >> absolutely. but to deny that it is a positive step forward verse status quo, that does not make sense. >> we'll leave it there because -- >> it does not it makes it worse. >> it is not affordable. >> it maaing it worse. charles: carlos, and dee dee are part of flat earth society, thank you, we'll talk you to later. >> government is junking junk food. it could cost your kids a good education. a better life foyour family, a better opportunity for your business, a better legacy a bet leave the world.amily, we have always believedd in this pursuit, striving to brg insight to every investment, and integrity to every pn. ware morgan stanley.

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going toward education, they are getting rid of junk food, and giving home healthy snacks instead. the government overreach is scary. you have a few problems with this, let's start with overreach as person. >> when you look at how far they wanted to take this -- the new regulaaions they wanted to they considered regulating in school fundraisers, i think that is problem you see in education sell itself, try to take one size fits all approach, you can't do that, this needs localized attention, one lady who was to capitol hill, said we have health option for kids but because of the standards saying you can't have two slices of whole grain bread for two days a week for sandwiches we can't offer those, we see an

overreach, really hurting our children. whereas if you take a more localized approach you will see it more effective. charles: bottom line this is from federal government, local government have to imminent it, they have small budgets, they are suffering continue to suffer, to implement some of these talk about the cost. a lot more expensive perhaps that offer ttis stuff, something has to go, maybe the book or maybe something that real might have a long are lasting impact. >> one lady on capitol hill said for school she represented, their food costs went from 37% of their revenue to 43% of revenue, if they try to implement the new regulation, over 43,000-dollars to train the employees on the new standards, my question is, wouldn't the government, instead of micromanages, they would be better suffered if they created a stronger economy environmenty is people's money stretched further healthier food be ale

more affordable. affordable. charles: not talking about vending machines with salads, maybe -- at en of day is that goofy? >> i know, these people do not read labels. a granola bar or a diet coke that is still full of after thefitial things that is -- artificial things that is not necessarily any whilier for your body. that is not going to work. charles: pat yourself on the back, take a bow then to world tour. you know this week, a lot of important decisions from supreme court, a lot seems to boeing s to boil down. local governments are states are not allowed to determine what is best for their kids, they take their marching orders from washington d.c., we have arg but everytt comes to our children, that is at top of pecking order, that parents and state and local government

should have more of a role in the decision make progress than someone or bureaucrat in washington, d.c. >> yes, in some of these regulations, they leave some up to the state, however, again, you you know one lady said, popular health alternatives at their school, they could not implement them, it did not meet those imis im-- implemented by e federal government. the federal governmenttneeds to go become and consider are they the best people for this job. charles: you should seiz. best lunch out there peanut buuter and jelly. >> who would have thought. charles: 10 years ago i switched

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>> i have not called president shi or president putin because, number one. i should not have to. charles: president saying he has not even tried to speak to the guy who have been protecting nsa speaker ed snowden. retired army colonel, said that the president is porchin botchis whole thing, some comments from president have been astonishing. >> they have been. we have a president who doesn 't want to be bothered. i think he recognizes he is not getting anything out of either one because of the flops he has done in the past, he is trying to give away our missiles, and you know scuttle our economy, and chinese and russians know they have the upper hand, this is an american problem, according to them, i thought it

was interesting that vladimir putin kind of gested at this, dismissed it by saying, it's like trying to shear a pig. you get a lot of squealing but you don't get any fleece. that is the reality of what we're facing. charles: just, at some point do we show any kind of backbone in this has to be a embarrassment from a international point of view? >> yeah, i think it is, i agree with lieutenant colonel, he made a lot of flops internationally, with foreign policy, there is nothing he can do, if we had one of putin computer's spies and - vladimir putin's spies, and he would be executed if we want to russia we would keep him here. charles: are you saying that snowden will be executed. >> i am telling you the

perception. if the shoe were on the other foot, we'll prosecute him, not execute him, but we'll put him in jail, russia is not willing to give up a spy. >> here is the thing, at least we put on a better show. this morning president said, he is not going to scramble jets to me that seems any great leader would say, iihave a better range of decisions either i central, belscramblejets or i do nothing. is there nothing bitzer. better. >> he will scramble jets for his family to take a vacation, but not safe the country. he could have said, i have this under control, looking presidential, no, he looked weak, and putin knows, that putin is in your face. you know former kgb . i spent a lot of time on right

side of the iron curtain facing these people down, they would kill anyone we would send back this to them, he knows that is stretch it out, make president obama look bad, they are doing a good job, but he is helping that process himself. by fumbling in syria, libya, and in iran, everyone knows that they can get the best of us, they are doinggit. charles: that is the case, you make a valid point, but this sort of coo "cool hand luke" indifferent approach toward foreign policy does not seem to work it emboldens people who do not take us serious seriously n wwth, president did not have many options but he could have looked presidential, if you ask been in america, who will blink first if you put our president in putin with a staredown contest, no one will say vladimir putin, he is a very tough leader, i was in russia last year for about 3 weeks, you

were surprised how little america matters to russia, they are just doing their own thing, they say, they have been sold, we'll for to deliver them. they donnt care about what the americans are doing, and vladimir putin is just laughing at this. charles: i agree with that, we have a minute, walk us through, possible scenarios, in direct they are going in the world, china with their own interest, and russia, middle east, and imploding again, iraq. the murder the date rate is going through the roof -- death rate is going through the roof, where are we heading ? >> iran is taking advantage of this, syria, probably assad will surprive. survive. we're sides with according to youtube, one of the commanders of syrian rebels is a cannibal. this is unreal we would come to the rescue after months of a disadisastrous, obama does not e

the wherewithal to take a tough decision, he has to make tough decisions with iran, and china and russia, and north korea, we have a lot of problems, his foreign policy is bankrupt. charles: foot dragging makes it that much harder, thank you very much. appreciate? >> homebuilders are building home sellers are selling homebuyers are buying, sounds like everything is going great, but everything is not what it supremes.

charles: if you think xbox on price i, tonight's biz his, mortgage rates are skyrocketing. biggest weekly increase since 1987. this as pending home sales hit

highess level since december 2006, gary smith said people are looking to get in before the rates jump up higher. gary, start with you. >> i mean, i think that is all a interest decision, not all of it. but you know people look at you know no one is putting down a large aim of money on a house, they have seen the prices flat line for the last few years, use someone else's money, when you do, that you got to pay interest, those go up, it like a tax on homes people are say, i thought i could go that's the low rate, the rates are higher. charles: that is a big fear in marketplace i think since ben bernanke spoke. >> rates are not going to choke demand, underlying is pent-up

demand, buyers have been sitting on side line for years, and inventory defleeting. -- depleting. woo remind you in 2002, we were in just epicenter of last housing bubble. 6. 5%, people were saying historic 6. pave fierce low rate. come on -- 6.5% low rates. >> you think that most would be buyers realize that. people get spoiled. >> it is not spoiled to want to save money. i think these are still historically low rates keeping it in perspective. >> you feel confident? >> market specific, depends on where you are. charles: okay. issue 2issue 2.

google, a new way to collect feedback from visitors, some couldn't versey of late, this is way google to help web sites but a way for google to get more information. people have been worried about google's overreach of late. >> we talk about it, i scratch my head and wonder, do you think that people will stop using google or stop going on-line, you know, i -- you know we talk about this segment. research into this i don't stop using google today, i know they are accessing my information and where i'm going, but, it is stuff like that so convenient. i wonder how much of a worry it really is for everyone out there. i don't believe it is. charles: not everyone has a squeaky clean life that gary b smith has. >> yeah, right. >> what are you doing on-line charles 92 then people like the idea of liberty and freedom. are you concerned?

it seems like particularly google has a green light to gather information and we need to know where it is will go. >> i don't think there should be expectation of privacy online, we're all kardashians on line. exposed that is because, tracking our information is google's business on-line marketer make money what they get to new targeted specific ways that happens when they know a lot about you, this is fundamental to their business, i think it is not realistic to think you can shop with your tube socks and pajamas on at home and not have a cost to it. charles: microsoft and sony are ready to unleash their consoles but up cid of waiting fo insteaa new system, selling for 99 buc

bucks. >> this is a fantastic sign. this is capitalism at its finest. charles, i want to one jump here, you know whole internet gaming industry, has not really gone touched by the government. could you imagine what we could %-government just got out of ate vul that the $99 solutions whether the previous solution was $500, it would be fantastic, i'm glad little companies are doing this, it shows what can happen when the market is allowed to work. charles: i always hold to everyone there is a walmart of health care out there it is called ouya. 99-dollars, soldout, the big guys might be nervous. >> we're talking night and day,

ouya is for the phone gamer, so many of with us smartphones we play our gadgets in line, now people. charles: you look like you play in a blain plane when they say o stop. >> i am particula!! iz -- i am a gamer, the person who a hard-core gamer, spending 20 hours mastering a hard-core shooter game does not care about the ouya, if is for the phone gamer, it is night and day, the person who drives a ferrari is not driving the toyota even if it takes you from a to b . charles: my son would' both, next time we will ask bookers to bring somebody with some sort of sorted pastt you are too squeak clean for me. charles: next time you want to tip a starbucks abou barista, tk

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charles: in let me be brief, sharing is caring, starbuck bar barista don't care to share their tips with their managers. you say that the baristas, they are getting roasted? >> absolutely, this is terrible, they go to work, they get their job, they their job is a specific job, they serve people, they work very hard. it is an individual thiig. i know a lot of people who go to coffee restaurants, for a

particular barista, now when they go to give this barista their nice tip, this barista is not getting the entire tip, it has to be shared. it not fair, if you have a barista or a supervisor who is not doing everything, they can pull down everyone else's tip, that is that is a horrible deci. charles: i agree in a sense, i tip for actual service, personality and all those, i don't do it as a knee-jerk reaction, and it does fill unfair. >> it is not just about the person that serving you directly in front of you, there are other people behind that server that make the whole experience better, that is why i like this decision, it gives a certainty and clarity, no longer do they have think about and wonder who am i going to have to share my tip with. charles: they share with everyone. >> they have to share with the

people that help them in their job. shift supervisors in this decision are the people that help the barista with the job. they are often part time employees, they get paid hourly like the barista, they help in the job. now assistance manager, they are those who have salarr and benefits, so a bright line has been drawn between those, so now everyone that goes to work in that industry will know, that is who i have to share my tips work and this is who i don't, it gives us clarity and certainty. charles: you know, that is one thing, fairness, is another..@ dana, still think and listen this is new york state, how does new york state have right to say, this is how you operate your could, starbucks had a system set up that worked well, no one is forced to work there, you knew the rules, nnw york steps in said, no, we want to operate differently. >> i think this is once again, i think it was a bad decision, now how far is government going to do to tell people they have

share their tips, what is next? i think it is terrible, these people they go in there they have specific jobs, i get it, it is an experience people have supervisors, the supervisor get paid more money. they are not getting paid hourly wage that barista is getting. >> not a whole lot. >> but they get paid more. and then, wait wai hole on. also -- hold on, they are in a bit pore sig to get a raisbette, not only are they receiving benefits and tips of lower level employees, who are doing 75 to 85 percent of the work, they are a step above of these people who receiie the tip, and working for tip to get those higher benefits. charles: so, monica -- >> all about fairness too. i think different people have different perceptions of fairnnss this debate right here shows that you those perceptions are different. this particular case, they drew

a line between shift supervisors and managers, managers make more, shift supervisors help barista, they are indict illed intitled to it, i think this decision is fair. charles: we can all agree on, is that baristas in thii case took a pay cut. >> they sure did. charles: love it spirited. have you back soon. >> thank you. >> could they cause the next bubble in trillioo dollar union debt this be bursts big time and lead to another huge bailout. we learned a lot of us ha known someone who's lived well into the 90s and that's a great thing.

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more for public pensions than their total revenues. now, something disne does not a, this is bad. >> unions are a disaster, they should go away, they destroyed our economy, we have all these businesses that are leaving our country, on state level, they are break the bank, look at illinois, $100 billion in debt they owe for pensions, and indiana, we have a surplus we're a right-to-work state. we get it done. these unions are breaking the bank. charles: a time we all needed unions, they did good things it felt like maybe over last decade the tide turned it u.s. i does m like unions top cooperate. saying that you know -- >> charles,,remember a pension

is deferred compensation, an employee who decided they wouud take less in income for a promise later that benefits the employees and employer. this is not a hand out this is something that by right an employee should get, and ought to be fully funded by the employer, that is reason there is this problem. charles: only difference you are right with a relationship in private sector but public workers make more money than their private sector counterparts who may these pensions that nobody can afford any more. >> you then pension problem. also exists in private sector, people under fund their pension liabilities that is the source of the issue, not generosity of the benefits. >> private sector is taking care of itself issue, right here in miami, 15% of the stay's annual budget goes to pension

obligation, iron that's unions are hurting their active members this is a wealth transfer from younger working people to older higher income people, it is unfair, it is unsustainable, and people that are getting hurt are the younger people working their pay is frozen, and they are not going to havenese generous pensions had they retire. charles: you know, dee dee we hhd illinois up there over 100 billion, california over a hundred billion, and carlos makes a point, if we're putting so much money revenue today the past obligations how do the states keep up? how do they have great schools in great universities, how did they rebuild their roads how do they do that, when all money they take in is to pay pensions? >> they won't, that is the problem. this liberal basically political pack with union they take money and collective bargaining then use it to gets their folks s elected they vote in the

pensions, it is unsustainable, they will go bankrupt, then they want a federal bailout, and people in indiana have to pay for california. lit them go bankrupt. >> why don't we have ought raineoutrage forcommunity and b. >> they are getting the job done, the problem with the unions that is it, it needs to go away there is no good use for them any more. >> the good news here in florida that two years ago for first time, we had pension reform, now, public. is pay 3% of -- public employees pay 3% of their salaries to there retirement. charles: hugh did it gets done. >> took hard work. it was unsustainable the way that program was structured and if private sector employees, they were talking about earlier, if people contribute to their retirement and their employees

sponsored pension plans why shhuldn't people if public sector do it, they are good employees, it has to be sustainable. >> christian, these are all valid points, i know you are -- you love to have these discussions, that is why i love having them with you, but on this, i don't see where you are coming from, how can you justify unions not say okay we have to swallow something, a better pill to not only keep union going but keep state going and provide for the future of our states. >> for future employees, all bets on the table. that is the whole point. pensions are negotiating benefits. deferred compensation, a dial was struck. a deal willingly struck, those obligations need to be fulfilled. charles: dee said they were truck in a virtuous cycle where unions had their buddies and

legislator give them the nice packages in return for votes, and kept going round and round, and it got to point where it was just maybe, ultimate sign of @%eed. >> that would have more credence if we did not see same dynamics happening in private sector pensions. >> no they are not, i don't know what you are talking about. >> oh,. >> it 12340 it is not happening, businesses don't perform, they go under but what happens, in public sector, then the taxpayer, on taxpayer back that is not right, not fair, that is the big difference 92 a huge give rings,. charles: a huge give rings. difference. >> also not fair people are getting laid off today, just so we can meet our pension obligations, people are unemployed today that governments had to layoff just so hey could fulfill too jen our

generous public obligation that needs to change. it is starting to change in florida. charles: it will chhnge, you were fantastic. appreciate it, audience thank you for watching. ♪ >> children. >> you save. john: in 1984 has come to america. >> this big brother has done a lot greedier than george orwell thought it would never get. >> when you call grandma in nebraska the nsa knows. john: the president says you have nothing to worry about. >> nobody is listening to your telephone calls. john: government officials do like. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all? >> no. john: my fellow libertarians are mad at me. they say, i am not angry enough. >> you know, i don't think this is john stossel. i think it is an impostor. john: i'm angrier than she is. >> i don't mind. it's not like it will be on tmz.