>> i know the fireworks come tomorrow but i have been waiting the president all but promised them monthsgo by a still waiting all the talk about blowing up the irs to get to the bottom of the mess is a dead. welcome, everybody. i am neil cavuto. it has been a month since the white house promise their investigation into this mess there was a lot of questions and they were get the answer. find out why a tea party groups are targeted and scrutinized and how they could possibly pull this off without headquarters it in washington knowing and if they did you knew which and

when? then the heads would roll and soon. but i don't see i don't see any heads rolling or anything rolling. one mon after words conservative groups are waiting. for a call or e-mail. nothing. an attorney representing nine of these targets she's beginning tuesday she will never hear from anyone because she thinks the investigation is not happening or it never happened what else could explain the brain lapse from the fbi director who could not occur of the person leading the inquiry? >> to know who is heading up the case or the lead investigator? >> get this century do not. >> could you get that information i would like to know how many peop you have assigned to look into this situation. >> i have not had a recent briefing as to where we are.

>> you don't know who is leading the case? >> i do not. >> have you talked to any of the victims of the group's targeted? any tea party blocs since may 14th, 2013? back i do not know the status of the intravenous. neil: you said itwould be a full frontal attacks and maybe the administration is not in raged at all to have no interest whatsoever to get to the bottom of the i.r.a. scandal because one month after the president promised to get to the bottom the agency created under his watch is now a bigger mess. clearly he is not interested to fix this maybe we should consult him of the responsibility to get a prosecutor who will. to the man who is representing a dozen tea party groups your phone is not ringing off the hook?

>> it is not weak file the amended complaint we now represent 41 organizations and it is therefore the fbi of who was wrong to there was a criminal investigation but certainly they would make a contact with some of them. we he been checking in people are asking and we make sure we go through all 41 but not one peep from the fbi, and it not any contact it would underscore the investigation announced four days after it lois lerner pleaded the fifth and eric holder said we will have a criminal investigation then one month later the director had no idea what was coming on and even came to the senate one week after that with the name by the washington d.c. office but now we know the irs officials are taking the

fifth, on the administrative leave. neil: i don't think there is any investigation going on if there were, i watch a lot of shows but i don't see that going on. i don't see anyone being questioned or any groups which asking for a follow-up and none of that is going on the fbi director does not even though the investigator in all that needs me -- leads me to think it i not happening at all. >> in the dia the fbi year is competent but why is that the case with the national targeting scheme? with officials around the country with five offices implicated you have the allies and this

investigation which we are starting to agree maybe there is not one at all because the white house came out first with their coulter than obama to say this is horrible justice will done and people will pay for what they did in there will be consequences then they found out our whole team was implicated, deputy chief of staff. neil: do think that is what happened? this hits close? cause either they did not think it was a big deal they are lying or they know it is a big deal because it implicates the administration types the did not leave with the room for credibility. >> they put a lot of trust in people like lois lerner considering her recent actions. she coordinated this knowing her name was on the letters to people to try to blame on the cincinnati office and

said it was done one year ago but one month before she started the controversy, she was puttinher name on the letters, her deputy. neil: you're absolutely right to whether or evil intent to acquire machiavellian that orders for coming out of washington it was not a rogue cincinnati agent but how widespread? >> we know the white housese was involved and part of the lawsuit on the civil side you can take the fifth but that is an inference toward us of might criminal you cannot just take offense and you do not incriminate yourself but in the civil case itoes help the case that what we are alleging is more likely than not true so we will see if that would affect us but we know this goes to the to white house folks what they did is the question of the day and the

campaign with the tside advisers were theyinvolved? why were the commissioners there? sara roehm from her name has not come out but just recently from this division went to the obamacare division she is the enforcer of that. then we hear the last week she may have been involved to run this. there very engaged with the white house staff wenow goes as high a the president's chief of staff and you cannot get much higher than that other than the president of the united states. neil: we don't know that but to follow up on the investigation that you would go after you allow people to thinall kinds of things maybe she can save us but if investigators can convince her to talk maybe you'll be dancers and soon they need

to grant her community to find out what she knew to oversethe very division where this targeting of conservatives was going down a game changer. let's talk to congressman who sits on the oversight committee. is that being considered to grant her immunities and she can talk? >> the one thing that ha been lacking is fact. we know for a fact the irs committed a gross abuse of power in the president admitted what was leaked so now we need to figure out who is responsible and a lois lerner seems to be ready to cut a deal and quick to profess her nocence and plead the fifth. neil: does that mean there has been and never by your committee and others to get her to appear before congress? but to avoid that give her

immunity so she can talk to have reproductive hearing? >> she is a public servant she has an obligation. neil: and she is still being paid by the way. >> she ll plead the fifth and insist on immunity but she wants to cut a deal then she needs to tell the committee counsel what it is that she has neil: you are way ahead of me on this but that would mean she is willing to entertain a deal that she knows something? >> exactly. wider somebody plead the fifth and say they have nothing to do their illness and then want immunity because they don't know anything? there isome vague and we have been to so many hearings where nobody will say anything like they have been told not to talk. how high does this go? we are desperate to have somebody tell us facts so we can follow this to where it leads.

neil: i am not an expert if people are breaking their word but the administration said david be hell on wheels that would be like me telling my dad i took out the garbage and he said it is sitting in their garage but that is what this is like. we can see the proof that nothing has changed no one has been talk to and no one has been called up to be e-mail or text w was affected and why and how far does the pinpointing go? so that leads me to believe there is not an investigation. >> it seems that way and why will know when take responsibility? we need someone to step up to say i did this, i created this i told them to do it maybe shreally is innocent

>> if this is not going away you like so that is because they discover it goes much higher up than they said? >> i think if we get the facts that is our it will lead but all of the grandstanding how the atrocity is committed first it was a rogue agency agree know that is untrue in reno eshelman went to the white house 118 times and there is duplication in the west wing but now all of a sudden the phantom investigation does not seem to go anywhere so if ms. lerner has information i am certain the committee counsel and the chairman would be happy to sit down with her then we can talk about limited immunity. neil: du dome grandeur that unless she has something to say? >> i don't think she gets it

both ways she was to plead the fifth why we do do that if you're innocent and why would you need immunity? she knows something. no question you don't just give immunity to say now i will tell you ever want we need to know where this is going. neil: we knoww you have a crazy schedule with the president delays the health care law? meet the top money guy who says no. it is not about the delay

neil: they snuck get back. that graphic. give it another look. [laughter] stake a syringe in it. fading fast and delaying the mandate that require employers to uue salad -- signed up but to hear court laugher telesat is coughing up blood as we speak.

good to see you. the delay will not bring this. >> i don't think so i think the health care lot of obamacare is dead in the water and will be repealed and they will start to use allocation you cannot give the stuff for free and expect to be financially sound. neil: it is not the first time much more than rethought. >> but is still can't work i remember jimmy carter trying to sell costs -- guest below cost. the health care law is the same thing. is a good segment and i was at the white house 1970 through 1973 i ensure you that goes to the very top there is no modern president who does not want to know or

who does not know. neil: there is no investigation we have reached out. >> and they will not be. i was the right-hand person and chief economist and we had backdating the presidential papers, the plumbers and all of these with 10 or 12 scandals including watergate. neil: you were behind each and every one. >> no. i was behind in from -- the information. neil: i am kidding but that cuts through the administration's crowning achievement. but it is falling under its own weight to be administered so then what happens? how could he resurrected? >> i don't think he can win it falls under the its own

way to have to allocate the resources some way. if you are selling things $0.5 on the dollar people will not only use way too many but go to the most expensive to use them until their bonds you have to have some allocation that is what it is all about. if you raise the price people demand less. neil: i always think of things simply in what i do know after the fact we attended the entire health care system to buy and large like what we had. if 10 percent of americans were poverty-stricken but now those people don't want it. deal know what? no thank you.

>> we destroyed in the 10 percent will not get good quality. they will be mailed in the en all the way. the government people will not give these resources to those who were voiceless. it ge this government to those who support them. neil: very well put. the. >> of course you know, who visits the white house? it is in the street people to explain what it i like they want favors from the president and they are plugged in with people to give political contributions and have all of that they always we'll thomas used of markets. then they will disappear but otherwise they will run the show. neil: if you get the rewards

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neil: could not blame the state department but $630,000 to get more friends or more likes on facebook? it is tr the washington examiner reporter says it is a big waste. what happened? ho cows. >> the state department spent two years on it

advertising campaigns costing more than half a million dollars to get morpheus. what they did was promote their own pages unt they got some lakes and spread up to reach around they got 2 million and they spent more than half a million dollars. neil: why is that important? a newsstand the importance but it seems like in this scheme of things it fails to 330 million americans. >> is important to note the bureau of international program is public outreach and specifically abad but the big problem with this campaign is a did not work. they were targeting a younger audience that would like a page whenever it

interacting again. neil: how you get them to like it? >> on facebook anybody can promote to page immelt it will spread the post. neil: all of those who are promotg you can see that? >> right for you can promote your post and they will see with the region around but the problem was after two years and $630,000 the engagement level was still a 2%. said most of the people would like them but never looked back and they run not sharing or commenting but to say nice pitcher in the inspector general's office had a big problem with that and they said that is not your job. neil: the lo at the madness. hoodoo u sent that back to?

>> ultimately it goes up through the chain of command with the state department did there is a lack of coordination between the social media programs and one of the things the ig report pointed out there are 150 offices that had facebook pages that are in competition with each other. to facebook pages competing for attention they don't care which one they belong to. so they are wasting their money on things that other bureaus and are already doing. neil: which the state department would work much harder on what happened in bang gauzy rather than trying to buy a light -- like it seems their strategy

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neil: willo utility companies make a bad storm worse. queen's new york, collectively suing the long island power authority in another you killed -- utility for not tapping energy or cutting in of more to the point from flowing to their homes and all but making them tinderboxes. they utilities did not deal energized manage electricity going to those homes ahead of and during the storm. trading of these fires. his lawyer and the homeowner on what has now become and $80 million lawsuit. to you first. home destroyed. where you now? >> we are now living in the rental property in yonkers. neil: so yours was among 120

so odd homes that burned to the ground. the power companies said they had nothing to do with that. that's what happens in arrogance . you argue they could have prevented. out? >> very simple. electricity and water bill makes . they'd taken a proactive approach and that the public trust and public safety in the forefront of their game plan and said the power, at fire to fight the fire were not started. neil: it could have been destroyed. well, no. i was in the home before the water came up and allison of before the ferry hit. all the homes in that general vicinity. there was damage. the water had come and gone. and even have a basement. >> i was there during the fire as it progressed. the homomes in that area evidend by the perimeter of that area,

you can tell that those sums are still standing. neil: it's not like me talk about lecture city. >> i know a little bit. neil: of bst, is a procedure, that's we have to get to the bottom of, a procedure that ahead of a major storm they get the power st in case homes are exposed to water. thre would be exposed to the water. neil: the industry standard, we have a never read this going to be infiltrated by were rising sea water. td energize and cut power. neil: is and there's some dispute? the severity of the storm, appreciated that there was no way of knowing that the waters uld rise to the degree that they did. >> for once, and i say this mockingly toward the people, the weather people, they get right. for once they get right. this was spot.

>> the warnings were there. the neighbor as or under mandatory evacuation area. neil: that to besmirch for your saying, but there are plenty of areas where they don't cut the power for whatever reason. >> industry standard protocol is to do so when you have surges of the matter -- magnitude. he sounds -- neil: the company's comeback in say, that is not a procedure, not one that we would have the last year, and even if we did we certainly could not have appreciated the dree to which the search happened. use a. >> the appreciation of the degree was there. there were forewarned. should have had a plan a procedure in place. the chef at one. industry experts have in to -- in the kgb energize the system. you dealing with a commodity and you are charged with the duty and responsibility distribution of it, the only option for you to take is the most safest. they fail to do that. they have created a war zone down there. these homes, a flooded basement

may be to rebuild the water on the first floor. a barbecue on his deck this weekend. neil: the other homes that were not burned down in and around the area, there were many that or not, was that because power was cut to the homes connected you ever ascertain that? >> no, actually, it was just the manner in which. the direction of the wind kind of dictator the direction of the fire. neil: in other words, no one's power was cut. >> no. i was in the community in two different locations. power was not cut. neil: the power companies come back and say, look of the drop. >> some homeowners on their road shut down the power in their house and evacuated. others did not. we have been able to pinpoint the precise size location and time of where this fire started. it's absolutely started. neil: some role in this? >> fema has tried to help these home owners out as best they can, but they're limited. >> are they telling you or in your case, your honor around?

>> well, and my particular case early on may of this out with hotels and things of that nature, but monetarily we did not qualify for aid. neil: losing your home. >> the basically told us what you just said. here is a hotel for a certain amount of time. 9309 on friday, in january, i was told in a phone call myself, my pregnant wife and my two year-old needed to find another place to sit in this morning. judge articulator situation, but it did not matter. neil: added you articulate? >> i tried to be polite because the person on the other end of the phone clearly was making the decisions. neil: baby healthy? >> yes. baby matthew patrick was born on april 11th. mom and baby are doing well. adapting well. neil: with a story to tell them when they grow up. where you going to do not? >> our intention is to rebuild. are trying to negotiate the mine field.

the unfortunate thing is that in the case of the homes were destroyed by the fire, those would not have been needed if the fire did not happen. you don't need a permit to recede rocker wall. the bottom line is the negligence of this utility company, it destroyed not only the homes, the physical structures, but the lives and the memories. my mom was a fourth generation spot. neil: suing the utility is sort of like suing the government. so you face the same pressure all these conservative groups of trying to go after the irs. is the government your effectively trying to soon. >> not reall life as an arrangement with the national grid which is a private company. a public authority. so they stand out of the government industry, but they passed -- neil: i bet you their lawyers are going to use the public authority parto say they're shielded. >> when they do well as other documentation that they pass the duchess irresponsibility over to the national grid which is a private company. neil: on the phone. not be as a miculous about it.

>> to show you the incompetence of these two companies, they have send dozens of other homeowners, dozens of my clients utility bills. ascending in utility bills. neil: for hses that don't exist. >> that only did their negligence burn it down but it incinerated it. inoing so, it incinerated their own leaders. in april i received a bill between the gas and electric from 1700 for an estimated meter reading. like all the utility, the operator had no idea, no red flag in a system that the suns did not exist in the meters were burned down. as the woman, how you can do estimated meter reading if there's no meter. she had no answer for me. my concern, and now it's a founded concern and a full enough for myself, but some of the other neighbors are experiencing go on to collection agencies now because this robotic clean -- neil: damages their credit report. >> absolutely. that was my point. had we will rebuild after he destroyed my house in the first

place because you're robotic the sending of bills for meters th don't exist. it showshe insensitivity as well as their ineptitude. neil: we look forward to either of thehe utility's coming on a what their argument. you're always welcome to come on. thank you very much. >> thank you for your time. neil: meanwhile, she can with a balmy souffle, but served up dummy's salary cap, something does not sit.

♪ neil: well, she can cut ammine nner table, but that w't save martha stewart for mean cut in pay because the decorating diva will have to make do with 200,000 fewer dollars. all part of a mutually agreed effort on the part of stewart and the board of directors at martha stewart to help return the company to profitability. before you are tempted to stick a fork in h fiefdom, remember, this queen has survived wars only to crawl out of that

crackpot with yet another incredible dish. whether this time what that is still cooking or just cut. whato you think? >> you know, her name is on the door. even though she is not the ceo, she is the chairman should be held accountable for the actions of the company. the $200,000 pay cut is nice. i don't think it's enough to turn my the steward media around. the company has been dead money for a long time. netive year-over-year earnings growth for some time. look at the stock. it's been a $2. one of the things you have to think about is the death of a brand, and it happens. unfortunately i think that she might be getting to that point. the magazine is pretty much gone away the doe. her company might be doing the same. lastly, she may not get the opportunity to put herself in j.c. penney because macy's is stealing martha stewart and j.c. penney because they believe they have the right to her stuff.

the stock has a long road ahead of it. neil: i know. she makes a mean cranberry staffing. all right. where does it stand? a by ourself? >> oh, i would go hold. i would not sell it right here. what i like about my the store is she made a very good decision in this current economy. she would rather take a pay cut and risk losing her old job. realize that we are in the internet age. the media company. yet understand the w advertising model which does not include magazines. will they be able to come out of this? i would not be a buyer person right here. i do like martha stewart. she is they cut back queen. don't bet against. neil: maybe if things do not work out in the decorating world chicken operates radio shack and make a go of it in a gadget world because the way thin going there they could use any of the day confined. this tour best known for parts you never heard of was to be

known for cool stuff you have to get your hands on, so it is promising more relevant high-tech gadgets that shoppers want to buy. are you buying? >> that is interesting thing. people going to go in there and look for the remote-controlled cars? and number oneeller at christmaste. you know,ou won't get to the store. i feel like and back in the 70's. i mean, they used to be a great devolving retailer. they have stumbled in the last couple of years. the see if they can get their much aback. neil: what do you think? >> they did this before. is anybody remember 2009 to make a change eir name. neil: stores within stores. they're already small to begin with. >> right. they went from selling high-end gadgets to little bitty components. wait. let's sell high-end gadgets again. the company and i believe is confused. well i think they have a great nation could were found maybe some local coal products, i don't think this is the answer. look at their earnings and it has been a double black diamond

ski slopes as 2009. it meets -- they need a lot more . neil: every time i go when they know exactly when looking for. a thingamajig because a new thing alleged in a guy pull something out of the shelf or whenever. anyway. meanwhile, melt down alerts. the portuguese bailout is now working out. record unemployment, surging inflation. the government is teetering as people lose their appetite for more cuts and they say it could come more. we think that this could spread. >> it sure looks like it. austerity has not worked. has not created a growth in the eurozone. the portuguese government will probably fail. the key here is a need to do away with the euro. it was a great idea, but says the government's curnt alignment committee tax policies aren't. your employment policies are to alignment. the currency can be. it w a great idea.

time to move on. neil: every time we see an uprising like this or panic attacks like this is going to make people in europe feel that austerity always begin something like this, not the last year. just the opposite reaction. >> right. these things always seem to happen in the most beautiful places in the wor. portugal is a wonderful country. gorgeous coastline, but when you are 100 -- when you're getting 130%f gdp in your tenure bond yield, i think you're right. sterity doesn't work. anton's point, it probably is a good idea for both greece and portugal and several other countries to get out of the euro. but that would create such an a people and have such a headline risk it would send markets reeling and just be a mess. they're going to work through it. for the next couple of months we're going to have to deal with this country's 80% of gdp. you have to dea with these headlines and i believe it will cost higher market volatility. lesson leaed. austerity does not work.

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♪ neil: you might want to turn your air conditioner off. when you see your electricity bill you are going to want to take your chances with the heat. batman, prices are soaring, highest on record, and the white house is pushing new emission standards that will likely push those bills soaring even more. the push to regulate. he says it will just infuriate. what you think is going on? this is not the time for

temperatures as high as they have been coming utilities tax to the degree they have been to be throwing more regulations on them. >> i do not think that is all. i don't think it is the right time if there ever is a good time to add to the economic burdens of families and businesses. neil: what is weird is there not grandfathering these changes. the epa was pushing these changes only daysfter the president's speech to happen immediately for everyone. >> well, i don't know how they think electricity is going to keep being generated because 37 percent of it comes from coal. the rest -- neil: the eight coal, don't they? >> they don't hate coal. they want the lights and air for jurors to go off. but what the people not to have electricity. neil: there is wind and solar. they even take about a natural-gas. >> the natural gas is the obvious the near term solution to it. and if and when they can ever make wind and solar pay

economical, which is not, only exist with the subsidynd keep it from being intermittent, which is not. it does not blow the wind all the time everywhere. we don't have some all the time everywhere. rainout year today. and house for your lights only one on a sunny day. ne: this notion that the administrators might be compounding the problem by pushing all of these grain cars, plug in. utilities that tax to the max will be tax more. you talk about rolling bwnouts and blackouts. that is was going to have it out. neil: the electric cart obviously has to be recharged. sometimes -- neil: electric cars powered by coal, think about it. also, the creation of an electric car creates a lot of carbon dioxide. if the batteries are not exactly the easiest to activity. neil: when you look at it, d.c. that this is not a get

environment? that may be the just after the throw and that's out? going another way. really cracking down on fracking and lasorda's stuff. this stuff right underneath our feet, the shambling on it. >> the strain; is that the same call that is not being used in america utilities is now being shipped to europe and use there because strange enough natural gas prices are three or four times of their year. so it's literally cheaper for the european utilities to pay to import american call rather than to use natural gas. neil: won't that be a kicker. we call producers to the find it eaper to ship the stuff abroad than cap its great potential here. >> that is -- and. neil: our own government. >> with thweird as part of it, it will be one thing of thehe cy had to phase it out and face a natural gas. as far as i know they have not provided any solution. they're just saying, well, fix

thesetilities. and spend the money, whenever it is. and so they're making choices for the consumer. they're saying to the consumer, whether you like it and not, were going to pay more for elecicity because we're a logical on the anti fossil issue neil: we're going to ay more. thank you. did seeing you. >>ood to see you. at the fourth. neil: all right. well, a stunning jump in private-sector jobs that could save the president's job. rihanna after this. ♪ the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture ca becau you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock?

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win! for me, it was heart-wrenching. bea: it takes a toll on everyone. i mean, it's a depressing disease to watch unfold before your eyes. you just don't see -- the person's soul is, like, gone. lisa: this disease just ravages a family. it changes your life. the magnitude of it is indescribable. art: now is the moment. if we work together, we can stop this epidemic. grace: conta brightfocus and learn more. ♪ neil: this just in, this guy can just relax. the latest news on private sector jobs. the president's stance to look pretty good at his own job. why. the folks say 188,000 more jobs

were created last month. those are private sector jobs, but they could signal a similar job of the government employment data on friday when we get the latest three on all jobs. and if he says, maybe the president can kiss the sagging post scandaloll numbers goodbye. what you think? >> no. no. >> this is why. he's dug a hole is big is the grand canyon and is trying to jump out of it with a postage. when you're in that much trouble , this is not going to do enough. you have the scandals. spinning hundred million dollars in africa. neil: you guys will let go. neil: of backup for all these scandals, pretty good economic news. that certainly saved bill clinton's bacon. i do think that it made a bad

situation even worse. the economy was anything but. if the backdrop of his not just dropping, that could be positive. >> it could be, but the problem is the reality just is not that. especially when you look beyond the broad picture and especially at what i like to focus on, chief on employment bause everyone ignores it. right now we have the highest structural youth unemployment since the great depression. only four in ten americans under 30 have full-time jobs. half of recent college graduates are underemployed. and so when we look at this one report, it looks rosy, but i don't think jobs for this low country, it's an invalid panera or the reagan-era. among elected this, nothing that the president is all free. these candles plus youth unemployment plus the economy as a whole. we are talking about over seven and a half% unemployment. that's not rosy. neil: what do you think? >> some people just can't take good news for an answer. lighter not this was good

economic news. if you think this was what the president needs to solve a scandal problem, you guys have not done the memo it really was a last time you heard anybody breathe a word benghazi. we all agree, like it and not, it's over. neil: decide to do a special. but there are a ht of other scandals. >> so many people watching cnn. clearly you're right. number two, when was the last time you heard our friend discuss in the press on tv. neil: you think all of this is just -- >> let's get to the irs. your best shot. you had the senator tried to tie it to the president. so you had that to begin. now you know what's happening, it's fascinating. we are beginning to see why they were targeted. seeing orgizatns that lied

under application. nothg to do with politics. the mlb application, the uploaded and after republican senator. other organizations -- >> they all did the same thing. >> here is what is fascinating. >> i think he's smoking. >> that may be true. neil: bit by bit of the scandals are going. in economy that is improving. the president is off to the races. >> no way. a scandal. scandal-ridden president, but also, the big thing is the obamacare. just today the employer mandate, and that is affecting jobs. as of the pressure is on. neil: well, there is something to the presidency, a poll numbers. we should point out that is hardly robust. having said that, the president continues to slip sliding and support and the majority of

americans seem to think that the administration is behind this mess. that does not mean that it is, but when the perception is out there and ask to get ahead of it the fourth firms to get there. ere is it goinrigh now? where is this a ministration going? >> the problem is -- of course the people on the left want to say there is no more scandal. everything has been answered. [laughter] neil: that's just great. >> benghi, we still not know what the president was doing that night and y we didn't have help from him right away. il: you think it was done and over. >> is not what i think it's what is. you tell me. were talkingbout benghazi. you heard the wwrd, not say where wrong. i'm simply saying confine me the word in the media. home was a last time. neil: nonetheless. right there.

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