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neil: mainstream republicans watch out. welcome. i am neil cavuto, here is the good thing, that came out of the irs scandal is brought the tea party back to life, tea parties loaded. and proving taxing the mainstream republicans who all but hoped they had gone away, they have not. they are angry, not only at democrats who dismissed them but a republican party they say all but ignore them. the same republican party, help make john boehner a speaker, not letting him speak, they say not letting him govern, they are at it again, not only are
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anti-business democrats in their sights but more in their sites, this time, this is going to get very ugly. and this ticked off tea partier said, better late than ever, jennifer stefano. they left them at the door? >> right. never before have i seen a group take their natural -- turn them into their enemies, message that tea party delivered in 2010, where idea that government should listen to you, have you people watching, for a limited government, for smaller, empowering the individual, that message sold, they ignored us in 2012, the fact is, i don't care what you call me, call me a tea partier but the message, and principles we're trying to deliver, you know who is coming over to our side, moderate
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democrats who are furious with the democratic party for lying to them about obamacare, they are starting to work with us. they refuse to fight, who can we trust? we can only trust ourselves, i think you will see that momentum coming out to fight. no matter what you call us. neil: all right, mainstream republicans call you dividers, they point to ronald reagan said he would rather get 80% of a loaf in a deal than no loaf at all, trying to move ball forward to then speaker tip o'neal. what do you think of that? >> well, i think it depends on what 30% you are not doing, if you are selling out to president obama's ideas on obamacare or big government or extends regulation or shutting down coal and corrupting people, then no,
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that is 30%, these cannot stand, you have to look at it from perspective. most people look at what is personal to them, what impacts me as a head of a working family or otherwise. republicans are not in many areas standing up to fight that battle. boehner should take the tea party freshman do what rand paul does, and ted cruise is doing they are resonating. neil: but they are not resonating with th the speaker,o that point do you think john boehner should be speaker? >> i think -- it is not enough to manage inside washington d.c., have you got to go out and speak to the people, the fact is that house, has often not been able to properly address or talk about why what they are doing matters to average people, and not to getting any done. they could have put this president on offense 500 times, and by refusing to allow group
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of people, original tea party freshmen to rise up and have a voice, you are seeing a situation where we're being set up to lose again. we don't have a voice from right in leadership or a large position arguing that point. i point to the united states senate, if you want to see, the future of the republican party, and, of course, to grassroots, it would be great if we focused on women, women are earning 60% of college degrees, they continue to sooner highest income. i think this is a very important., i hate gender politics, but man, i am never going to be sidelined by this women issue crap,. neil: speak your mind, i never know where you are coming from. it is design or coincident that
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i notice in latest tea party push, not a lot about social issues but more economic issues. >> sure, i think you -- i am pro-life you can talk about it but talk about it like you are not insane and you are a human. neil: what does that mean? >> you have guys like todd akins saying illegitimate rape, that soutis outrageous, as a woman, i have friends that are pro-choice, i have friends that have done all sorts of things, i can talk to them, they can talk to me, it is not a hysterical blood bath. i think that the economic issues are the most important ones, as long as you explain why is matter to their lives as working families, if you talk about spending and debt in the beg terms we lose people, you know democrats talk about people first, and republicans and those
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of us on right talk percentages, and pie charts, we need to change that. the way we talk, get the women in there, more women to run for offers to republican ticket. and you will see success, i hate to see it, when women run, women win, those pinko commie feminist birkin stock wearers i can't stand them. neil: but they win. >> they win. neil: thank you very much. >> thank you neil cavuto. neil: to foster freeze who feels jen's point. but do not take it too long, rick santorum. remember him, mitt -- what is foster up to now? he is joining us, foster, what do you make with what jenniffer said.
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>> i jennifer is wise in terms of democrats talk to heart and emotions, we talk to the brain. but, when we talk about health care reform, you talk about bloc granting medicated estates, and changing some of the tax code or, selling cross state lines, that is work. ish head talk, we have foulke ta -- wonkish head talk. we have talks about thousand create a safety net. however, i do believe we have a huge opportunity of coming together with the established republicans tea party am and people formerly on the left, a lot of democrats are upset. i have to tell you a story. a kid, runs his car to ditch,
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buries it up to the top with mud, he calls over a farmer. he said how come you call your horse 4 names, homser homer is blind. >> you know a lot of people criticize republicans to a horse, but usually the other end. ey say bseeplins. have hit nabbi ft of at loo like jaws vto, ey say becausehey endp going f aeld f wtakes their mge alluring, tt e eno msa. t tn they getau u i socisss o aenfer saidhe czi w then all of a sudden become face of the party, not an accurate face, do you agree? >> i agree that the left like to
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pick out the worst spokesman. that is why it makes me nervous you picked me. neil: how would you combat that. you are a savvy, man. you got your money and all you know something about seeing diamonds in the rough, right now they are rough for republicans, how do they improve their image with all people? >> it is so simple. all you have to do is take one rifle shot, for example, rather than talk about defunding obamacare, all we have to do is let's ask president obama to treat the little guy as fairly as he treats big corporation, we gave corporation a relief from their mandate, now insist he do the same for the little guy, keep it on that issue. i don't think it makes sense to defund obamacare, i think we want to reschedule the
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implementation of the mandates, so that the young -- little guy with have a better chance to look at what is? store for him, young people still favor obamacare, they are the ones that will be hurt the most. neil: to defund it is a waste of time? >> i think their intentions are good. and any that want to repeal, everyone knows we have to get rid of it, but the trick is, what is the best way, iing is have a rifle shot, and say, let's treat the employee, equal to how we're treating employers give him a one year hat hiatus,d the money on advertising, that goes to advertising firms headed by obama donors. if we method that one rescheduling we become together. establishment, tea party, democrats we're all in this together. neil: who are you pushing for in
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2016? >> well, i told folks i'm still think santorum is wise of of the group. group. neil: if he runs against he has your backing. >> he was talking in iowa the other day talked about job creators, why not talk about the job holders, i could came wealthy because of 70 people around me, if not for them i would not be in this chair, main thing to be sensitive to that hotel clerk that checks us in at 2:00 a.m., and skycap that getsous plane at 5:00 in the morning they make our country work. i think that republicans care about them, that is why they want to get rid of obamacare which will be destructive to these people. we need to take the message, let's look out for the job holder. >> foster freeze thank you. >> thank you. neil: talk about perfect timing, as libertarians are about to take off, the ron paul channel
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between glenn beck and ron paul? what if i told you nothing? at least on the internet. one is a big star there, one is about to become one, the ron paul channel is so line, firing a lot of folks out. $200,000 potential subscribers expressed interest in paying $9.95 a month, to give to straight every day, and was he telling me about a feature that promotes itself first you turn your tv off, that is where you lose me. nevertheless, because i admire you greatly. i'll let you come from this last appearance, i'm joking. >> whole idea for me to have the ability to continue to do what i've been doing for 35 years, talk about issues that you helped me talk about many times over the years, bring it to attendtion of as many people as
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possible. there are frustration with regular tv, i don't have a job on regular tv. i don't want to live in new york, washington or l.a., i can do it this fry hometown -- from my hometown, and talk to people, it works well for me, we're at beginning stages, just within the hour, i released that the site is now available. i will turn to cavuto when i want to hear thely willy real b. neil: i tell you young man, you go after us it is war. i am curious is this like a libtaryian channel? >> it is going to not promote ideas i disagree with. most people have a good sense of what i believe in, foreign policy has been different from
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traditional, and economics, believe. so, those are views i will express. but, it is also going to be trying to get people not the ones that -- not only those who might agree with me, but you know like your first host, our first guest was glen green wall, you know talk about snowden, i'm sure they are sympathetic to libertarian views but i don't think they will be libertarians, but if they are interesting in talking about things in trying to reveal the truth, i would just like to get to the bottom of things, it gives me a little bit extra time to do this. the nice thing about internet i don't have to deal with advertisers and a clock. you get to be experts, you know how to cut me off when you need to. i -- you know if i get long winded, and my 30 minutes is up,
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i can go further minutes. -- 40 minutes, i think today's show is 45 minutes. neil: is that just you? >> oh, no. you have to look at it. you will be all right. >> very good. >> 45 minutes they would get tired of me, that is why i havv guests, i think people who working with me have done it to feprofessionally. neil: how will this help or hurt your son, senator rand paul who is rumored to vifor presidency in 2016. >> highway patrol it doesn't hurt -- i hope it doesn't hurt him, you never know what it might do. i can't believe it would hurt him, hopefully is will help to some degree, the views will be very similar. neil: what did you think of his dust of with new jersey governor chris christie? much to do about nothing?
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>> yeah, i don't like the bickering. i think it was a significant debate, one person blasting those of us who believe in libertt saying you should not be that you know critical of the government. that is significant but still, two politicians going at it, i would rather you know talk about why we should have a fed or not have a fed. neil: it sounds like you are not a christy fan. >> that would be safe to say, yes. neil: if he was the republican nominee in 2016 we're way ahead of ourselves, if he were, would you not support him. >> at this moment, he is not going to have -- you know, a change of heart. he is a big government person. so, it would be similar to you know, last go around, i could not endorse our candidate. but i want to change things. i don't think we're doing well,
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you know. neil: sort of glommed into one another. there is a philosophical battle going on went the republican party, to your point on chris christie-rand paul dust up with how you go about surveilling people. is there a debate they should have? >> it is a very important debate. it is dangerous not to face up to it but i think it is much broader than that. i think it is big government versus limited government. that involves the split in the republican party. and in the democratic party. the democrats want to restrain, have restrain to foreign intervention and surveillance. so, i think it is a much bigger thing. in economics, nixon once said we're all keynesians, i would liie to change that. he is right, republicans and democrats became canne keynesiai
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don't think we should have a chairman or a federal reserve. neil: for now we do have a federal reserve, and for now two keynesians or big believers in government stimulus in running for the job, larry summers and janet yellen. do you like one more than the other? do you think they would both continue ben bernanke policy of propping things up on steroids. >> it won't make a difference, they believe that fed is there for lend are of last resorts for banks and corporations that over extend themselves, they believe in regulation, one might put more emphasis on regulation versus monetary policy. but endorse the idea they monetize debt. long-term it makes no difference, the debate should be to we need a federal reserve
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neil: greece is the word, and we are the turf.
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not really. we have all of washington taking august off as if we don't have a spinning mess -- spending mess, what is the greek olive term for, we're the one that is pits? greece gets it we don't. >> yes, you know, what greece what is going on they have been doing austerity and germany saying, if you don't fix your spending and your spend aholic ways you are not getting imf money or ecb money. here in united states, we have a echo chamber, liberal media and people in washington d.c., you cannot admit any contrary opinions and facts, country in the world have never succeeded in, that it -- thought process
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is we have the dollar and reserve currency we can print our way out. china is still buying our debt we'll be okay, it is not happening. >> i will give america's round of applause. have you done better than everyone else in the world getting through financial crisis. take my home country of the u.k. >> i had no idea you were british. >> we have the gq boys in charge as you call them. we did too much too soon, key we have anemic growth, the chief of imf said you have not done well. this year they will be lower -- >> still adding to the debt? >> yes, but are leading the way and world in the recovery. you don't want to be a brit, you to be in america. neil: what do you think, we get
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it, and greece, whatever its turn around is not us. >> i'm not sure we get it in america. after 2008 we "saw 4" years of a trillion dollar plus deficit, just because it half that now it is too high, but back to greece, i don't think that greece is a country we should be following in terms of fiscal paths. if you look at it, the unemployment rate there is over 25 percent, 2 -- two-thirds ofl youth cannot find a job, but they have to listen to foreign creditors telling them how to run their country, they waited too long. @%il: lizzy, what do you make of point that maybe because we have not gone as austere as some of the countries, and our federal reserve has been in the game, that, say, we're certainly in better shape than the rest of the world?
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>> i think that i'm imagyn has a point, i think they are doing the same thing our federal reserve has been doing, but we're so short-term focussed in washington d.c., to say austerity will kill us, remember there were fears we had something equating mayan collapse with the spending cuts, guess what it did not happen, things are moving along. even though the growth is not that great. problem is with that anemic growth of 1.5%, and obamacare adding a trillion dollars to nation's deficit, we need restructuring in a big way, state, local and fed level. neil: you mentioned that britain over did it. tax hikes right away, and -- >> it was about 80-20, done at
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-- >> but the tax hikes came first, then they had to take it back. >> main was consumption tax that went up 20%. neil: did ttey dial is back? >> it is still 20%. >> wait. the wealthy surtax what happened to that. >> that one got dialed back. they were busy doing spending cuts across every government department from health care to foreign aid. and u.s., you have to reform the tax code that has to be the aim of congress. neil: i always thhnk it sounds impressive to standout in the world. but you realize you are the tallest pygmy in the room, you realize you are the tallest pygmy in the room, what are we bragging about? or should we be bragging about? >> we hould not be bragging,
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neil, if we look at mandatory spending stop, the real drivers of our spending in the future, we're not touched those, until we touch them we have nothing to be bragging about. the programs are important but they need to be preserved and protected. neil: thank you, up later, imagenrene has a shocking new alert, i will leave you wanting to watch this. like you always are. >> a tease. neil: right, harry reid accusing unions of threatening obamacare. off his game or rocker?
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neil: you know, harry reid is going after every one, last week, for republicans for all but being racist going after the president's agenda and now fear mongering unions for questioning that agenda. >> he is exaggerating but i would recommend he calm down and stop frightening people. he isi. neil: has the leader lost it?
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gretchen, what do you think? >> i think harry reid is being harry reid, and criticizing anyone who is criticizing some work he and other democrats have done, he started criticizing conservatives with the same criticism a few years ago, now after union leaders based off what they said is going to destroy the 40-hour workweek. neil: chris. there is frustration that health care law seems to befalling apart on their trying to keep it going, but now unions, a key democratic party backer now want doing to back out what is going on? >> first of all, dc insider, i don't know. that -- i think that is per >> a highly connected person. >> how about, is it a future or a bug? that is the question, unions
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have serious problems with the law because, it makes membership and dues paying into unions less attractive. it makes as gretchen pointed out, what it does to the 35 hour workweek, and all that other stuff, there are problems for unions, when harry reid said calm down, and don't be so alarmist, he is saying we'll figure this out in time. let's not give republicans any ammunition right now to knock down the bill. we'll get it figured out. and as he said in same interview, it is sal leading to us a sing -- it is leading us to a single payer plan. neil: i think, gretchen that is heart of what is going on, chris should run from that opinion now because i agree. but goal, was to get to something single prayer pray pa, unions would embrace that. that is what they originally wanted when first pushed it now
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we might get it. >> that is what they pushed for -n the beginning of this debate. showedebate. >> now they ended up with a law unworkable. neil: what do you think of what he is saying to the unions, will you just get on the same page with us? just shut up. >> you know he doesn't want them to give any ammunition, unions are sayinn, letters they sent to congress are being used gain democrats inflatal ads and -- political ads and across u.s. highlighting the des crepancy between americans and having them sign up for obamacare, businesses getting a pass for a year, congressional staffers gets a pass, he is saying we know there are problem, we'll find a fix and a solution for you just hole tight. neil: is this in big trouble? >> yes. but, it is in big trouble. but part that relates to paying
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for it and promise that people like, leyna reid and other leaders in democrat could party said the law is not coming together like we want it to. the part that is not coming together is the paying for it part. that the nod to clinton democrats, an all democrat plan but the clinton democrats have wanted fiscal restraint. that part wheels are coming off this buggy, part is is going forward regardless of what happens with obamacare, data hub, and all other concerns getting as many human being signed up for free or subsidized insurance as possible to constitute the benefits so that can cannot be taken away. neil: thank you. in the meantime, apple announced it will introduce a new iphone to the world next month.
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watch out, because you know they think they have a mota, round their products, you know, a used apple i love their products, you never know when you will be next blackberry or old sony disc manore ibm pc, they thought we have it locked. we don't need to one about innovating, someone ellyn vents the wheel. >> garey is right, a reminder of how quickly the consumer can forget about you, blackberry was first in the cell phone market, other examy on the fors came out -- competitors came out, they may have great products that come out but i don't think that anyone is looking any more. neil: do you think that we bury these guys too soon? i remember netflix, everyone thought they were going the way
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of the dodo bird. >> i think they can, you know, that net flic netflix you talk a good example. i never stopped paying my 51ly limonly fee -- my monthly fee for them, they showed they were willing to innovate, i think that black berr blackberry is a. >> all right, issue two, tweeting to anyone interested in immigration reform, twitter now joining facebook in immigration debate. monica what do you make of this billionaire push. >> i am not surprised that twitter has a pack, in 70s,
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lobbying was tens of millions of dollars today it is billions, i think that anybody out there, who is looking for politicians to do something for them should understand that everyone needs to follow the money, this is what the story tells me, and we need to be pushing for all of our legislators and lobbyists to behave like nascar drivers, they should have parc patches, who ay representing we need to know. neil: one thing i like about this what do you make of that, why, i understand why big tech titans are interested in getting big tech help. but, they are all in on it. >> yeah, they are all in on every debate. i think monica makes a good point, congressmen and senators are like nascar drivers, unless you are in there, speaking on
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every single issue, i think that is really just all of the issues are just a hedge to make sure that you have the ear of your you know appropriate senator or congressman on other issues down the road, which you might not know of maybe a internet tax or a sweater tax, that you are cozying up to right person or people in this case that your business, in this case twitter case should you go public your stock share will not erode. neil: real food for thought, america's appetite for food delivery is alive and well. monica a phenomena that feeds on itself, grub hub. and -- latest to emerge. what do you make? >> i think -- a wonderful service, and disrupting something that was inefficient, you had to pick up a phone,
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place a order to restaurant, there is a lot of noise in the restaurant, it is great you can do it online, but what i thought to be interesting, i read is that they are charging these restaurants, who have low margin businesses to begin with 15%. restaurants do make just a shred of money on what they charge you. neil: an added customer is an added customer. >> not when your margin is 8%. the order delivery service needs to remember its place, the restaurant that maintains customer loyalty, if they continue to be greedy there ising in nothing to say the trend will continue. neil: gary, a lot of these say, this order is not for one person mr. cavuto. leaving that aside. what do you think? is it a trend? >> i'm going contrarian, i think
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as they say in bridge, slowin tg a looser on a looser, you get two plates of pasta for you and your wife, $40, i looked up on grub hub, i have never used, they tax on $10 charge. plus 20% of bill, you pay, $50 for $ 40 worth of food, 50 i think people are saying, you know, times are tight, you know we're aging our income is going down, i think it is too expensive. i do not like this business at all. neil: all right, so, i will put you don't ayou down as a maybe. >> thank you very much. >> when rich get fed up, proof they really do pack up? see the numbers on this. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed. a quarter million tweeters are tweeting and 900 million dollars are changing hands online.
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neil: i could be wrong but i think this is a rich guy a version of telling them to take a leap, u.s. taxpayers renouncing their citizenship and up and leaving the country, they have to fill a form out first. a number of them have. last quarter those americans filed to file out double previous high setback in the first quarter. a tripped that appears to be -- trend that appears to be picking up more steam this quarter. imagene is sympathetic with these folks and my point of view. you think you can tax people to hell, until they diagram back ancome back andsay go to hell.
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>> last week, i cried about the u.s. tax thing, i am a brit, and moving here is a nightmare. i think i have sympathy in a sense of people that move here, normally the little guys that move here, trying to keep up with u.s. tax paperwork it a nightmare. neil: the regulation part or shear scope of taxes? >> is regulation part. to comply, you end up paying the accountant you could ever owe in a million years, if you get one bit wrong with the irs they could haunt you for your life. neil: if we're to believe this, you have to be hitting a wall when a lot of people say, we're out of here. >> you are hitting a wall. they -- why is this news? for god's sake, that number that you quote that was more -- that
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left. neil: you kne knew we were doina segment you can just play along. >> i am playing along. neil: they push it then go. >> you see it happening at local level, detroit, cleveland, cincinnati, pittsburgh, kansas city, every time they raisin come taxeraisincome taxes the p, cities like kansas and st. louis, said if we fry to try to hike taxes on income we have to revisit the law to make sure we do not lose population. neil: going around them so maybe rich don't notice? >> it about why we need tax reform. so complicated, that people say enough, they throw up hands say enough, i think this shows we
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need to comp hencively reform u.s. tax code. neil: do you know what i think. when you leave your country over tax rates -- >> on some levels, my sympathy goes with the little guy, who is caught up in this. neil: are you a citizen in both country? >> i am a green card holder here. neil: you have kissed the -- >> no, i am still a citizen. >> there is a double jeopardy rule. we have a treaty, brits and americans do still talk. neil: we love you to date, and who could forget monty python. here i thought donald trump ruthless when it came to firing people on the spot, the guy at aol has him beat by a mile, at least donald fires them in
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person, tim armstrong did it on a conference call. >> able, put that camera down right now, able, you are fired, out.
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neil: the guy was snapping pictures of it. >> he snapped, i get it. but this is not the way you run a business. and i was trying to say sadly for this employee he does not have type of employment discrimination case gain aol or mr. armstrong, new york like main other states is an at-will
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state, an employer can do what mr. arm strong did. neil: even if it does not look good. you might be legal but it does not look good. >> what is the message to your staff. neil: what is it? >> if i don't perform right, i am gone. neil: what is bad with that. >> you can't be on point 24/7. and watching people work, they have to do it because they want to, they are motivated, by the leadership, motivated by accomplishments by money, there is a lot to motivate. neil: fear is not one. >> fear is not long-term motivation. >> i agree. from a legal standpoint no lawsuit, but the purpose of this conference call, remember to get the employees fired up, get them pumped up. neil: maybe 999 were, one was not? >> i mean if you are an
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employee on the phone how will you be inspired to do well when your employer does not care. neil: mr. spacely, too late, thanks for watching.rri: hello,m gerri willis. scary sinkholes are back. how safe is your neighborhood? from a geologist later. and a host of tax problems after losing a loved one. how you can deal with that. and moy-saving monday. a simple trick to get your homeowners insurance to pay for your claim. we are watching for you tonight on "the willis repo."

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