♪ neil: getting fired. if you want to know what is rattling wall street, as strange as it might sound come made is things looking better on main street. welcome, everybody. [laughter] if you think hell hath no fury like union guys having their benefits taken away, you should see what happens with the stock guys getting their goodies taken away. they may say they are lazy fair, but did they scream not fair when it is their benefits going to bite which is what happens today. very hard to prove, but lots of talk beginning overnight with chatter about the federal reserve already tapering or at least mixing of the securities

it is buying to pump these markets up. rumors that it has stopped buying treasurys altogether, now just mortgage-backed securities. news just hours later that jobless claims in this country were weighed down, which seemed to indicate things in this economy really are looking up. good, right? to a point. who needs training wheels if you can ride this recovery just fine without them? is the fear that training wheels are gone or going. and wall street is selling. because it is on its own. it is time for wall street to just suck it up and grow up. if you are basing our bilateral the fed is buying, you might want to think about retiring. i get the sentiment. the government should never have gone into the propping up market business to begin with, but nevertheless he did. hinting that things are good enough now work could be to take some of l.a. is rattling them.

shouldn't they be celebrating claims coming down, economic numbers looking better? in advice here. >> well, for sure government should get out of the way. every time government gets in the way they screw things up. whether it is with these economic stimuli or big stimulus program or obamacare, each and every time they end up screwing things up. actually out there in the economy, signals are mixed that uc companies like walmart and coles and macy's reporting very soft sales results. that says the consumer is not about to of lead the charge out of this economy. on the other hand, uc jobless claims down. wages are down a little bit. a very mixed picture. neil: and that alone should let wall street believe, if you're worried about the fed taking a punch bowl away between what you just mentioned and cisco laying off 4,000 people, trouble not

your little greedy hard. i think that there is this talk that it is beginning. at the very least this 85 billion a month that has really been propping up the street is going away or being shifted around, maybe they have already stopped buying treasury notes and bonds and the sort of thing. that's why rates are climbing. >> wall street has gotten ahead of itself. the fact of the matter is as much as the president would like to believe the economy is great and everything is roaring back, with tons of people unemployed and underemployed and now with obamacare leading employers to up move people to shorter hours and lower average allen to cut hourly wages, and i don't think things are all that rosy out there. the same time wall street seems fascinated by how much stimulus

and capering and so forth in seems to be forgetting the fundamentals. neil: i always wondered if push came to shove and the federal reserve was not there, the government was not involved in propping markets up and throwing cash at them, of the whole 85 billion a month or gone, how much higher really what interest rates be in the face of the very slowdown in the very hiccuping that you alluded to when it came to walmart and what is going on at kohl's and macy's in cisco with these layoffs. >> i don't see the effect. i just don't think these near term machinations of the fed had made nearly as much difference as folks in washington what have you believe. neil: hanging on the fed for the markets every move seems to make them think that without that interest rates would be a lot higher. you seem to be saying that is not the case. >> i agree with you. i don't think they have that

much impact. the fact the matter is we lack confidence. we have tremendous uncertainty. facing higher payroll taxes, were read silly about the financial implications of obamacare both for small business as well as individuals. the rules seem to be changing by the day, and with all the uncertainty, the consumer is, as many would say, cautious. neil: leave it to you to speak english. thank you very much. good seeing you again. i am thinking about tomorrow and najaf would cover a broad based sell-off one week after he bought the paper. we may be about to find out, and we are not the only ones that are curious.diate tendency knowy well. the newspaper industries. his name is black, conrad black. ♪ my mantra?

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cutting costs is tough, especially when the folks who work there don't do is to say. that was the experience of the printing company which letter ended up filing for bankruptcy. avoid the same fate. former media baron who once were up ran the world's third largest media chain. flight of the eagle, the grand strategy that brought america from independence. he joins us. very good to have you. >> thank you for inviting me on. neil: what do you think he is in for? kino this industry better than most on this planet. you talk about its potential online and the internet, what have you. can he tap that? >> i think so. i am not qualified to sit in judgment on the cyber talents of some one soul accomplished as the founder of amazon, but he must have in sites that would dilute meet. i think the comparison with the

company is misleading. the letter that company up with a colossal amount of debt and then took an unconscionable length of time pealing of secondary assets. he sold the news in longgisland to the drolen family and a nice price, but he never did get around to the selling the chicago cubs and so forth. he just took too long and there was soup -- too much debt there. the head of but too much money into it. neil: and we did have them all down a year later. having said that i'm curious about one thing. >> he's paying his own money for this. neil: absolutely, but i think what his point was, and having run a lot of newspapers yourself , it is very hard to tell journalists to take cutbacks, to look at basic math to money into money out. what do you make of that?

>> you have to get by with fewer of them. they will not take cutbacks. you just have fewer journalists and get better journalists doing a better job which is not hard to do if you have proper editors. with great respect, i don't think he knew how to be a publisher. the fact is, you have to know the person, no how to impose a certain professional discipline on journalists without compromising your integrity. can be done, but it is like anything else, being a brain surgeon or a television host. you have to have experience. neil: it would be his speech. think about it. he has it. there are no minority shareholders. it is his baby. so it does leave a lot of wiggle room for him to do what he wants. what do you think he does? >> now i am getting -- you are luring me out of an area where i

have standard to speak with confidence. not an expert, but this is not a prediction. no standing to make any such protection, but first of all, let's keep in mind he paid ten times cash. when interest rates are as low as they are the men normally if it is a stable income that is the base of the multiple, that is not an excessive amount to pay for business. a severely eroding business. at think by contemporary standards industries paid up a bit for the cali in theme of the trademark in the goodwill. he could get serious about a 24 hour all day internet newspaper, uses best writers as the absolute exclusive soon have to go there to get them and connected to a huge amount of word play right people and just constantly revising in connecting you to the archives and everything else and make a more aggressive effort in the

newspaper business. and i suspect that might work better than previous more half-hearted tries. most of these publishers have used the internet as a team to try and draw people in. paved with a huge investment that they have made in prices and delivery systems. neil: back to you and your book. given all the problems you have had. you had all sorts of charges against you that were eventually whittle down from almost 20 to a couple. many could argue back and forth whether there were death threats -re not. >> nonsense and we get rid of them. neil: the bottom line is you're not allowed back in the united states for 30 years. >> that is not the case. of course it is not fair. no part of it was. persona non grata in the u.s., but at the moment they're is a

good world beyond america. neil: if you came to new york right now -- >> it would not let me out of the airport. neil: year of a very complementary book about american have the -- as you have in the past. richard nixon ronald reagan and fdr. so you have done all of this. you speak of this country and america. this is the same company -- country that has united getting canada. >> not exactly hiding out. i'm staying in the house that has been my address for 61 years neil: but that's a little rough. >> look, i'm not all that affectionate to the country as it is now, but let us try and keep perspective. kind enough to say. we have to try and do that. but the fact that the country persecuted me half to death does

not mean it is not still a great country. of course it is. americans are right to be proud of it, but there are real problems. the justice system is one of them. time heals most loans. i would not say that i will be back in a u.s. i think i could make n application, and it would be successful. not even the prosecutors who accused me of everything except complicity in the assassination of abraham lincoln, not even they -- neil: you didn't hear. let me ask you a little bit. >> not even they claim i am a menace to a society in the u.s. neil: they are looking at your whereabouts with garfield. that's a separate issue. kennedy your take particularly on president obama because he left me confused. great admiration. but as a president of you saying

he is a failure? >> that would be overstating it. i always wish the person -- the president of the u.s. well. always wish the holder of that office as well for the country. but i think he has not been successful up to now. indeed if i may add a comment to your interesting discussion of the previous guest, i agree with both of you. it would not matter that much in one sense if the treasury was not buying -- the fed was not buying tickets unsold bonds, but if the u.s. government had to be paying interest rates, that would make a difference. that i think is the problem you're going to get. neil: of problem and our debt and our financial problems and where we stand now has said debtor country, talk about a fall from grace. >> well, look, for and a half years ago after two and a half

-- turn in 32 years of american independence conduct a 7076 you had $10 trillion in debt. four and a half years later 17 trillion. you can't do this. as you said, up to half of that amount was not really sold to legitimate buyers of bonds. it was paid for by notes issued by the federal reserve to its 100 percent parent in exchange for these bonds. we do that in the private sector. you would be in violation of a criminal statute. neil: it would be think -- >> it is a great country and like all great nationalities, a genius and renovation, but i think somebody is going to have to use the old fdr playbook and it is only the president to can do it currently the president it can lead, and i think it's too late. neil: he is not leading. you admired. writing about him at the time, he was the man for the moment and the mission, but that was a

mission that was built on a lot of big government spending, the roots of a lot of our problems. now, reversed that today, is that what we have to do? >> in fairness to fdr, he said himself some of this is not going to work and some of it will. we will put people to work. his workfare programs work. that is how you get the lincoln tunnel and the bridge. i mean the playbook in this sense. the president says is a very serious problem. neil: he doesn't. now or in the middle of a one month vacation. it's a lot. where is it going? >> is going to hit the wall -- at some point. i cannot take seriously this talk about well, it's getting better, looking better.

a slight increase in retail sales which i get there is not in the latest numbers. i think it compounds the fact that our whole civilization is over committed to the service industry. too many people who don't have value. too many lawyers and consultants who are able people, well educated. neil: a worldwide phenomenon. i am wondering, all of these doom and gloom. this fall or next fall something bad is happening. >> not quite. in germany, a great manufacturing company making splendid engineered goods. canada and austria are great resource countries. not a single resource, any resource. and with india and china, almost 40 percent of the people of the world putting out for good economic growth rates there is demand for this. some are lucky to be in good positions.

some, they're because of the skill and application which would be germany and the netherlands and some others. the rest of us, we're going to have to pull our socks up. seventy-nine states. there's a war on the rich going on. if there's a war on the rich and we almost all like wealth. zero yet. >> a cynical game being played. it is not exactly a war on the rich. they have token rich friends like jamie diamond and sell one. the real genius is that different issue. the administration will say we dislike rich people. they say we dislike rich people

who are not paying their share not socially conscientious and so forth. fact for the more they're trying to pretend that people who, in fact -- several children are just making it and living not badly, but not opulently and just making it. they are, in fact, rich. there is this effort, i am afraid, to mobilize the people of comparatively modest means. it is a reprehensible tendency in this cynical operation. neil: on that i agree with you. that should make you run the other way. >> by the way, franklin d. roosevelt never said to mind paying to be idled. i will pay them to work and put them to work until the private sector and higher than. neil: you're right. whether you like it on the left of the right, he came in.

he wanted to get people back to work, focus like a laser beam, and we could learn a thing or two on the left and right about being a president on a mission and sticking to it. >> and may i just say one thing very briefly. with my dear friend, a wonderful person. but we have this disagreement. i said to her, when he came into office the and apply red was 33%. when he went out it was a quarter. if he didn't cure the depression, who did? neil: and she said? >> answer came, nine. neil: thank you very much. all right. when we come back, speaking of very rich guys, after black what you say to a guy named soros? what is the up to? very big on apple. so it is time for you. you still have time to get pen and paper and see if our crack team of experts is right.

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♪ neil: all right. it is time for our neil cavuto clash. we try to get you ready for the issues everyone will be talking about and trading on tomorrow. entering the coliseum, gladiator ford o'connell and christian dorsey. gentlemen, welcome. issue number one, the white house now going rogue the day after proposing a cell phone tax without congressional approval, sending hundreds of millions more on new education programs without some much as a congressional not.

that has republicans saying he is a president, not a dictator. what do you say? >> that is exactly right. aside from bypassing congress in jacking of federal tobacco taxes , he essentially is mindlessly throwing money in a very serious problem. this race to the top is not a program of educational policy because unless you can essentially control for bad neighborhoods, chaotic family living, essentially whenever benefits you're going to get for the program will go away. the onus is on the people to make this program work. the way the president is acting right now is more like a dictator the president. neil: if you did it once, all right. this is an anomaly. to bypass the points that you think are vital. all presidents run into this. when you start throwing fees, taxes, that sort of thing without so much as a congressional not, now you are in dangerous territory, argue? >> first of all tomorrow your

you were accusing the president not leading in and he is trying to do something because we have a historical dysfunctional. neil: i did not say dictating. >> there really isn't a difference because the president -- neil: he's for steeper taxes. >> we are talking about $0.33 per month for three years to connect via broadband -- neil: i don't care what it is. it has to be approved. >> everyone has to approve it. everyone has to sign off on it. >> that is not true. we currently have a tax in place connecting schools and he simply wants to expand it. it can't happen through congress, so he's trying to explore another way. neil: how do you know the so-called lock box will be any more successful than other endeavors we have taken? >> that's exactly right. it's not because essentially we will be throwing 75 billion down the drain and have no way of

recouping benefits. not only that, this program could not lead to driving up 3k prices in the way that the federal loans have. neil: are you troubled by the means by which she has gone about this? are you saying that congress has forced to send? >> absolutely. as congress is a starkly dysfunctional and unproductive. what the president is seeking to do is to connect classrooms to broadband and expand universal prepaid. there is nothing uncontroversial about both of those being the way forward for our children. those are not controversial educational policies but things that we know to be true essex. neil: i just want to be careful. the people the speed you go about paying for these indisputable issues and we can argue that we are okay with it.3 >> or not okay with it. you have to understand what the president has tried to work

through bill is that a vehicle. that has been what he has tried to do. neil: i want to remember what the president said. i do want to switch issues, gentlemen. tonight keeping a really close signed tomorrow, something that could hold back this president should be continue to pursue this long-range policy. apparently it is making him mighty unpopular. his economic approval rating is down seven. seven the past month to 35%. is he hurting? >> he is, big time, but i would submit the reason is because people want to see the president do more. they elected this president twice, to pursue an agenda that a small majority of this country agreed was the right agenda to pursue. they have not seen in pursuit. this disapproval comes from the fact that they see him as not leading. these efforts are, in effect, going to change the dynamic and will ultimately improve his

approval ratings. >> essentially our gdp, no interest in pursuing a pro-growth economic agenda from obamacare to dodd-frank, 17 million stimulus. it has all been a failure. now he was still about pushing down corporate taxes. neil: you could argue it is been a failure for years now. that is been the case for seven years. >> and this president has no interest in pursuing any pro-growth policies going forward. and don't expect his approval rating to get better. -- neil: i hear you, but the congressional approval rating is lower. >> congress may be as popular as a cockroach. that does not mean the president is doing a great job, and he is not even proposing things that democrats in the senate would. the keystone pipeline. he is not doing everything he can command right now he is creating emotional panic.

>> i will agree that the president is not doing everything he can, but to argue that it is because of him and his agenda has not been pursued is completely fool hearty. neil: both sides get some blame. >> absolutely. neil: we have found common ground. thank you very much. meanwhile. facebook full throttle. the stock is back. what if i told you that the customers are not. they're physically there, but there not in the best of moods. ♪ musi is being streamed. a quarter million tweeters are tweeting. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that's why hp built a new kind of server. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less. it's called hp moonshot. and it's giving the internet the room it needs to grow. this&is gonna be big.

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♪ neil: have time. is facebook ado for full throttle? is it going to get slapped in the face or is this just the moonstruck moment? i love that. anyway, according to a new survey, apparently the chatter is that there not feeling too friendly or happy when they chant. ominous signs. a prelude to getting this recovery. what you think? >> the added, it is a recession. it is a depression when you lose a job. there is some of this thinking going on. people logging on to social networks and comparing themselves to everyone else. also hearing tales of woe. either way what they're becoming is more pessimistic, depressed

and less optimistic about what is happening out there. neil: when they are commiserating on facebook, there's a psychological way to look at this. like-minded-people will seek out like minded native people. this is exaggerated. >> it does become a self-fulfilling prophecy. you hard to see that -- it went even worse and it does become this cycle. there's a lot of psychology out there. in general consumers are pretty confident. they're out there spending minimally. we're still seeing positive job creation, so people is still saying, get in a position or job , but it does not seem to be enough at this point, and we are still seeing people lose their jobs. neil: the latest, is this a

bifurcated economy? how would you describe it? >> very much. it seems like every port of strength you can find details of which this. you can find rays of hope which is the juxtaposition we have been seeing. on the headlines this seems strong, but if you look get the details it was evident that there was a clear lack of momentum of the last several months. neil: i'm sorry, these are the reason. >> i think they do. every time we see a positive job report, if you look at it underneath it's because people are dropping of the labor force, jobs are still hard to find, minimal income growwh.

i think there is a lot of reason for caution and a lot of reason for pessimism. neil: certainly evident in the latest -- latest employment numbers. that is always a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you so much. neil: maybe a lot of these facebook text a miserable because nothing there posting is safe. the whole world seems to be spying on them. did that tell you that there is in after that? and much more. how to point and click the government away. ♪

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[applause] [laughter] neil: you're embarrassing me. it's coming in just a few minutes. you cannot afford to miss it. did your pen and paper out because you won't believe what our guys are recommending and telling you to stay away from. meanwhile, the "washington post" , the electronic army apparently getting ready -- taking credit for it. those guys probably not hitting you, but if you are tired of being hacked don't sit back. fight back. apparently you need not be an open book, and there are ways around the nsa. who knew? i started getting all these e-mails from viewers to tell me we need not take this surveiling digital forensic analyst on how we give the fed defender. all perfectly legal. good to have you. i guess the key is just making sure that our accounts are not accessible.

have you do that? >> two things. in the immediate term and long term. you have to recognize that the free and sheep service, these are not going to protect your privacy, everything you send on them and use them as an open book. so that you just need to accept. what you can do is use alternative messaging services. they do cost money, but they will increase your messages and data. i think it's important for two reasons. in the short term you protect the information, especially if your lawyer or a cow or a business person and keep the data private. neil: you are a genius. i am not. what does this mean? >> that protect the security of the law in of your mailbox. they offer this. they send the code to your phone.

you also enter the phone from -- the code from your phone which makes it harder for a cyber criminal to break-in. it does not protect un litigation, the fed does keep some of the ankle biters out of your free mailbox. that's good. that's better. more importantly from every one that cares about this should go out and seek a company that provides true private communication. one so you can have private communication, especially, as i said, business, lawyers, accountants. but also, to send a message for the marketplace. they don't think that enough people care about privacy for them to stand up to the fed and the other opponent and say yet. neil: betatrons, all free, and people like free.

>> there are some quality companies out there. they do provide a truly secure communication. the security conferences. there are others. don't just believe that. neil: the monthly fee. >> of the silence circle for individual users is $20 a month. you can use the free utility called seven zip, the digit seven vip. that is a one better% freak

encryption tool and you could incur pier messages for free. the big companies notice, the big companies need to stand up to the experts. one of the best security experts in the world has been saying that the big companies need to stand up for the customers and protect the privacy of the customers. they realize the market their customers wanted to, that's by individuals taking their own stand to detective privacy. neil: that will send a message. >> that's the best way. neil: very good. thank you. all right. good seeing you again. >> thanks. neil: the latest health care shocker that it's bless the entire law. and then walmart, apple. right now.eam.

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♪ neil: don't think this did not have a role in nonvolatile market. yet another health care surprise. they seem to come out daily. it sounds like the thing that even some democrats are now calling a train wreck could be derailing said that even a thought. health care exchanges are the means by which recover millions of people, or they hope to. they ain't exactly going gangbusters signing folks up. today we are learning the exchanges, even those in the planning stages are over budget and simply overwrought, and a lot of it because leary americans are not exactly overwhelmed when they let them have to switch doctors and settle for fewer, sometimes much your options. warning that all of this would be a rough fallout, but it looks

like we're the ones getting rolled. what do you make of this? >> there are couple of things. first of all, what people don't realize is the coverage will be subsidized, but there are two subsidies. one is for the premium. for a lot of people, the government goes behind the scenes and subsidizes the insurer. that may look good, but when the copays are four or $5 or $25 for using the emergency room or ambulance, the insurers look at that and said there is no way we can cover the cost. the only way to control the cost is to limit the people using only the patients using on the doctors and hospitals that take very low reimbursement. we are seeing is these medicaid-like plants. in fact, medicaid managed-care companies are going into the exchange even though they never sold individual insurance because this is their business model. neil: why would anyone leave what they have?

>> this is the other part. some of these are people who maybe have not had insurance. neil: that i can understand. >> with the other problem is that they are now going to mandate costs on employers. then they say that employers with 50 or fewer, you will not be penalized. they're looking to say, my people and looking to get a bigger subsidy in the exchange granted it might not be, you know, as wider choice of doctors i don't have to pay for it. i give them a little more cash wages and it is a win for them and be. the insurance industry is looking at that and expect small businesses will drop coverage. that is why i think you are seeing another dynamic in which insurers are signing. the ones that mainly deal with small businesses like kaiser seem to be the ones trying to catch the business.

of the ones that deal with bigger businesses, edna, united, back, wait and see, see how the first year goes kind of attitude neil: we'll wait and wait and wait. thank you. scary stuff. in the meantime, $50 to see a two-hour movie is crazy. but 20 minutes of the movie is even crazier. the studio, the sire, the fallout. next.

♪ neil: time for the most talked-about feature on this show. not literally, mind you. you would be surprised, but when we start blitzing it is a chance for you to decide whether there worth a buy or just a pass. here to get as going. welcome. we begin tonight with apple.

the stock apparently, billionaires' left on it because another one just confirming he is buying more shares. up to $64 million, chump change. but it is a trend appears to be catching on. should they follow suit? >> everyone has an opinion. for me it comes down to the fact that investing is that independent thinking, and just because they are, is the epitome of being a second vendor. if you like apple, which i don't . great. but do it for your own independent reasons, not because he thinks it's a buy. neil: what do you think? >> billion as of piling into the stock just to pile into the stock. there is only one apple. they are just buying it. a bigger state.

i think that just the supply and demand factor. there is only one. it will drive the price of. neil: there is a flip side that dealing with the distractions of investors, billionaire guys telling you to make better use of your cash, they can take the company's eye of the ball. couldn't it be paying less attention to whatever new product have coming out? >> and indeed there have been a number of high-profile investors over the last year have taken large stakes and agitated for everything from higher dividends to stock buybacks. to his point this is a popular company, both company, and a stock that even if you are not high roller you probably have an interest in because of the fact it makes up such a big part of the nasdaq in s&p 500 which is why would be cautious in adding it to a portfolio. if you have any stock exposure will index fund you have quite a bit of money in apple.

neil: may be walmart could be a cheaper bet. the stocks have been getting beaten up. the latest aureus customers. and not buying as much when they shop. continuing concern about where the recovery itself is withering. is walmart the stock you want to own? with key thing? >> you know, i always thought that when walmart started to suffer a sales decline it would be a sign of the economy was turning around. people were shopping there because it was cheap because it was the only place they could shop. i'm fairly convincing members from other retailers that walmart is suffering because things have actually gotten worse. higher taxes, payroll taxes. the unemployment problems have not really been solved. sometimes the numbers look better, but people making less money. i think the retail industry is going to be facing some serious head wind. i don't know that i would be a buyer. neil: the argument that some

prominent retailers are hurting. others on the very low wind. they're doing okay, but leaving that aside would you buy walmart here? >> it is an amazing company. a great stock? i think it's less clear. to this point, a lot of the retailers, macy's, for example, has done poorly. to your point to my name like costco has really outperformed. i would probably choose costco over walmart. look where the sector as come. they have been shopping. in fact, consumer confidence is at multi-year highs. i would not count retailers' out and would not count walmart out either. neil: all right. maybe time warner needs a timeout. could break the bank for warner brothers. could that $50 million for 20 minutes in the new superman

movie. investors want to see if it would be worth it. >> this make me you long for the days of adam west or even michael keaton. how many. you might want to start thinking about them. i don't know if there will really never do that man again or whether he is positioning himself for this story is really true and assembly floating the idea. would it be cool? neil: what do you think? >> and a capitalist. 50 million. be a lot to do it for 40. i will do the movie. to the movie for 40 minutes. they talk about ringing the bell and a market. neil: it's not that kind of

movie. obviously i get that they get all these people together. people like it. well worth the expense. >> it's like marc hamel. marc hamel was a huge star in 1980. a lot of subsequent star wars got made. a huge star in july 13. he should take the 50 million war would offer my services. you are my father. give me the 40 million. neil: you are in a wait-and-see mode. >> i am. he's absolutely right. this character could be played by anyone willing to don a mask. doing a pretty good job already. neil: i'm just very grateful. our cameras are catching it.

i wanted thank you both very much. if you want to be indispensable get your name in the show. that will do it. gobye. >> we want the police to keep us safe. >> we have to do everything safe. >> we have to do everything we can to keep a safe.much? to make the area has been be >> tonight. john: "the police state"? america is not a police state the we're pretty free. for the most part but we