charles: the war on the rich is going global. welcome i am chip chip in -- charles payne in for neil cavu cavuto. washington is pushing to take a bigger chunk, in new york city. new york fnt-runner bill de blasio has all but declared war on the rich. in spain millions' to form their own country. protesting governments that are

handing out millions of their earning, craig, i'm glad you are on the show, one reason we brout upset weiing of spain -- situation of spain, any time you got 1.5 million people to protest anything let alone hold hands while protesting, we'reby talk about war of politics of envy, it boils down to something abou race. the fact that people all over world working hard to earn money had enough of government taking it from them. >> charles, you are so right. and you are also right about the coverage of what is going on in catalonia. these people are saying, we do not want to send our renue to other parts of the country where people are not working, that is about what we're dealing with, i got the sheet today request sheet, i starred thinking, i guess i'm considered one of the rich. charles, you know the type of taxes people pay over $250,000

over 31 years we paid millions in taxes and hired thousands of people giving them jobs, now the government wants more, if you told he 31 years ago, i have been in business 40 -- but 31 years ago with this comny one day i would be vilified and looked upon as i do bad not doing my fair share, i do not think i would have gumption to do something with my life, it is unbelievable how the government treats the wealthy in america that do so much for so many people. charles: your point is well taken, you look at america, in particular young people, a survey of young people under 24 wanted to be, only 4% said they want to be part of 1%, i can tell you, no one gets their accidentally, forget what you read in news papeber nepotism and growny -- cronyism, overwhelming majority work hard to get there, if you don't have

the craig smiths in the world building business from ground up with these coattails america is not the america we kno today. >> i fully agree. 31 years ago with $50ut of the bid room -- bedroom of my home, i starred my current business, i worked 16 to 18 hours day, 6 days a week, sometimes 7, i gave up luxuries of life that a lot of people had, they had better cars, bigger house, a worked, a sweated, i beat my brains against the wall, i was blessed because we live in a great nation, weave done well, we give a lot with charity, yet i am told i don't do my fair share, it angers me, young people, it is beingaken away from them that hey, you should want to grow up and be well to do you could help so many people, here in phoenix, phoenix

dream center, we give a lot of money it takes people off of the streets it gives people in human trafficking a way out, why doesn't federal government shrink like they should, take less money, and allow indivials to lead their liv, that is what made american great. where we came off the tracks, 141912 woodrow wilson came to work, fassed official income tax, federal reserve restarted on a progressive path we have to take care of everyone, and everyone deserves the same, and look at where we are now today, if de blasio lives in nes in ne- wins in network just look at detroit that is what you will see 10 or 20 years from now. charles: you say you are blessed. we hear word sacrifice almost every successful person i know on thisecto second fourth marri,

but having said that all sacrifices that we talk about. there is a part of this, you know we're a christian judeonation, we want to heljudep our neighbors do you think we can continue this in direct we're in and there is a general epivny that citalism is good not bad, rich people do more greatness for the country than bad? >> i sure hope so, you know, i have been married tricycle years married 36 years to my first, and probably my only wife, i hopeo, as i drove through the studio, i reminded of that hank riordan character in a atlas slug, all well to do people, creators, the inventor people that gave job created jobs they went on strike, they said we had enough, we're had enough of being vilified, enough of being pushed around they went

to a city in mountains, a next thing you know world came apar at the seam, capitalism and free markets are the greatest thing that every been produced in in ufox business which is the best business station on the -- >> we sorry we saw that in catalonia 1.5 million people say, leave us alone, let us have our own country we'll go from here, i hope that does not happen here but we're headed in the wrong direct, 31 years these days is a modern day miracle. so are you craig. >> 36 years. >> challenges. -- challenges. charles: you know the world is up side down, the guy could who run financial cla capital of wo, new york city wants to hike taxes on the rich, but guy who runs france wants to still back tax hikes, it is pretty bad when

the french get it and we don't. you know, france, more bad economic news, not necessarily a surprise, but maybe they are getting it, killing themselves shooting themselves in the foot with this punitive tax policy of theirs. >> whether hallam get it but people of new york city don't, i am disturbed about what happened with the new york election, peoplef new york city can elect anyone they want to, i am oil enough to remember -- old enough to remember what network new york city was like before rudy julian, and michael whether or not wilmichael bloomberg,they fd city services they kept taxes low, so that people would leave the city to go elsewhere, you know i see as you do every day, improvement in city, and i wonder whether maybe new york networkers take for granted the

improvement they forgot what they were look under david dickens and before when you continue was like remember that movie esscrape from new york -- escape from new york. >> i remember going back to the warriors, we're not there yet but mahdi, the commercial that de blasio ran, moreress said top 1% of new york are there because of you, she they are hog you back, they are repressing you, more or less declaring war on 1% of new york city. >> it is surprising that de blasio is almost a democrat nominee. this progresve agenda appeals to new york voters sadly enough, but, to steve's point, there is a lot of effort put into making new york an appealing economic environment has been drilled back over last couple years, you see is higher erners in new york

leaves for low tax zug t jurisdiction to hold to there capital and money, and create jobs elsewhere, if th the 1% is to be blamed for new york perhaps policies that drive them out to other states. charles: 1%, celebrate look at rest of country they have come out of great recession, and new york city. it is hard to think gone unless they are not educate on what shaping in the world, and the country, being this overly guess disappointed. >> one of the most amazing things that is going on this this country, politically and -conomically, is the red state/blue state divide, you have states like new york and california raising taxes and states in south cuttinghat formula does not work well for

californians and new yorkers, they adopt ow obamanomics, i wat to raise an important point for new york, what is new york? what does it produce? it is the financial capital of the world. judgwhy is it that financial cal of world imposes highest capital. that would be like nebraska putting tax on corner oil. you know. charles: matte ? >> true, and to steve's point, there are twice as many voters in red states than in blue, something that blue state governors like new york and california that continue to drive the people out. should consider, you are right, right now new york, states like california, that want to continue to propagate the policies are run like socialist

presidents like france that should cause concern. >> thank you see you soon. charles: coming up vladimir putin blasting america in the "new york times," is that a sign of the times and a bad sign. >> white house saying, fixing immigration will fix the economy,eet the guy saying that is deed wrong, and he has the numbers to prove it. [ woman ] if you have the audacity to believe your financial advisor should focus on your long-term goals, not their short-term agenda. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do. face time and think time make a difference. at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing.

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world. there are so many problem i have but the fact is that this is putin blasting us in "new york times" does it make his point valid? >> it is the perfect exercise, if i were putin i would write the exact article. he is using all of obama's wordy against him, rely on u.n., and international law, and create civilian casualties and violating international law. putin could not have done better, own has fallen for -- obama has fallen for this, actually putin is playing him like a cheap fiddle right now. charles: creating a leader ship vavacuum created by president obama, he is becoming the person that world is looking up to for leadership. >> it is filling the leadership vacuum, you are right, the

president of the united states has not led, he has not asserted american leadership, not asserted american values or power, ts is what you get. what we have he is putin, who is running a pretty weak country at this point, who does not have the economic or military wherewithal to be a super power, making it so that he is the super power and replacing obama, because obama cannot be bothered to do it. charles: does the rest of the world understand this guy funds iran, and funds you know, you know listen this former head of kgb, his resume is a dafterly resume, does the rest of the work get that or has president obama flubbed it so poorly. >> clearly the latter and also the former, i mean who you are talking about? france, and italy, and somalia.

they will say we're not going to talk about what putin is doing to help, ran and help assad, ey are willing to overlook this as long as we fight the battle, right now obama is not fighting in syria, we don't want to do that. but obama is giving up a big leadership role, he does not too like us being a super power, we are not going to be wow by the time he is done. charles: this is a heavy burden. what do you make of the idea that perhaps putin bailed out president obama, because, before this offer to mediate some sort of surrender of chemical weapons, president put himself in an ugly position. >> well, yeah, very were an ugly position when you have congress telling an american president, you don't want to go to work, in a way -- to war, in a way putin is bailing him out, high is having it both -- putin is having it both ways, he is

loving this, this is sport to him, twisting knife a little bit morive day. and he is -- you know we're not going to have any discussion of our peace proposal said putin until you take threat of the military attack off the table. twisting that knife, obama is flat on his back right now, putin has pretty much put his foot on obama's chest and raised hid hand in triumph. this is amazing how badly we have done in this crisis. charles: enhanced influence for havvladimir putin mines means wg forward? >> nothing good, he will be aggressive, again freedom. always the same way they were for 50 years, this is a very dark time, we should not be worried about in respect to syria but we should be worried about with respect to iran, and klein and a lot of other -- china and lot of other places in

the world where we'll get in big trouble if we don't watch out. charles: you talk about president back on the floor, how does he turn this. >> i think throw in the towel -- no, he can't. literally, he cannot turn this around, there is no way he will win in congress or in u.n., you know, artful way that putin raised in opposite, we have to rely on the united nations, and the fact that the security council is created with a veto thanks to america's help. just the perfect rop rope-a-dop. >> you started saying that putin started using obama's own words against him his words are coming back to haunt him. >> putin could not have done a

better job, taking obama's words, and turned them against him, and put opponent in a p.m. of a spot. charles: -- hell of a spot. charles: what about a mia culpa, one of my biggest beefs with this president is he never admits is he was wrong, said i'o go back to square 1. >> you don't seriously belief he is going to take responsibility for something, this is the antithesis of what obama has done, it is always somebody else's fall fault, saying i wast there, he will not go with a mia culpa, he will keep failing. charles: they say when in doubt at white house blame bush, leave is light there, we'll talk you to real soonantastic. >> thank you. charles: coming up, a big win for big business, why waging war

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>> i think it is a job killer, we estmated forcing thousan may. why he vetoed a bill to hike minimum wage. this is win for business when government stays out but rick unger clashing it out. >> why does dc council decide what walmart does? walmart is a company, they should decide what they pay, it

is up to them, that is capitalism, free market. that is what is great about our country. i don't even like walmart, but it is up to them to decide what they are paying their employees. charles: she makes a great poi point. a free market. this is a walmart specific bill. if you do a billion dollars with certain amount of square feet. >> i don't think it the backfi backfire. i can't wait to see walmart's contribution to mayor's campaign next time, but -- >> besides cynicism, overall idea a company with force a company to pay a certain amount to an unskilled worker there is a problem there. >> problem is that when a company pays their employees so

low, that you and i have to subsidize their earnings by giving them medicaid, by food stamps because they can't make enough working 40 hours a week to take care of their families, that is when you have to. >> not that low, it is -- walmart greeters, they say how are you? how is the mullet. what is going on. how much money should you get paid to do that. >> how many are greeters? >> it is unskilled work. >> it is, do you prefer fact that somebody would get up every morning and go to work event if they are a greeter, they should be paid a fair wage. >> they are getting paid a fair wage, if they don't' to work they don't have to. charles: they provide jobs that did not exist before, minimum wage is a lot more than zero,

that is why every time walmart opens a store there is a line hours long, hundreds of people deep trying to get a job, to them this is a god send, how do these council men, you think will veto this look at constituents in face, and say, i just got rid of a job for you. marion barry voted against it. >> that is old school. charles: but how does he tell people, they have highest unemployment rate in that district ever, how does he look them in the face, and say, i killed potential jobs for you. >> what about mom and pop stores being killed. charles: come on, let's not start that. >> but it's real. charles: thousands of jobs, mayor said thousands of jobs, you are talking about mom and pop who are selling hamburgers

for too much money. >> pick one mom and pop store, okay, but now take all stores, all grocery chains that will be whip out of the market that have been paying taxes in washington d.c. will go, that money is going to walmart shareholders. >> this is bottom line, a lot of jobs there are there because of walmart. charles: thousands of jobs, people who are smart, you can compete agast walmart there are a lot of ways. >> i want to shift. doctors don't understand it, now administration they keep changing it. talking about a new report that shows healthcare law has been amded or delayed 19 times already, dee dee this is a train wreck. >> you know it is telling when everything changes, they are doing because they are scared to

death of democrats they are going to lose across the board, no body wants it unions don't want it, unions are like we don't' it we're out of here, they promoted it but now they know how terrible it is. and forget members of congress they sure the heck don't want it. they set themselves out of it. >> two things i can assure you of, democrats did not feel that republican reaction to obama care will hurt them. charles: what about public reaction? >> we'll see about that. that could be a fair point. >> why do they keep delaying. >> there are actually technical reasons, but point 2 is the union, hammering people to join up on obamacare. >> afl-cio. >> the one union. >> and the longshoremen left a week ago.

>> they were calling for scrapping of obamacare. >> they did not. >> i know it is a bad deal. >> it is not unions, it is a union. >> i don't knoo anyone who wants this obamacare thing. >> you live in new york. those my conservative friends my one in particular who -- >> because you have just one. >> probably biggest conservative writer published a chart -- >> rick, thou protest too much. >> what do you want me to do. charles: you can't defend it at this point. >> i can so! charles: you know. so much for that speedy federal recovery, you know, 8 years after katrina, a billion bucks

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charles: 8 years after hurricane katrina slammed gulf coast, mississipp span a billion dollars in federal storm relief aid, majority of money

reportedly tied up still yet to materialize projects. a lot of sandy victims here in new york and new jersey are saying fema is still leaving them behind as well. scott o'neill said when federal government throws a lot of money at a problem it creates more problems. how can you explain this? mississippi on a billion bucks? >> well, i want to say congratulation to the federal government, as well as state of mississippi for making care -- taking care of every single person move who was a victim in katrina but we know that is not the truth, you have that money left, you know that either they over budgeted or there are still a lot of people out there hurting. charles: we know they did not over budget, you have a infighting going on, i read a groupments to build a -- wants to build a parking lot, i don't

think that is what the money was earmarked for. >> that is what we do when natural disaster, i believe that the politicians just wait for natural disaster to build up pork funs in their district, people in mississippi would have love to have seen the money, but they go to contractors and golfing buddies people who contribute to the politicians funds to reelect them. charles: they say some arrive late, even that was two years later, some federal restricts to spend it on, but this is inic usable, it explained that government largess is a problem. it seems it never gets to who it is supposed to get to, and big boys find a way to divvy it up. >> it is a pr issue that government said let's throw money at a natural disaster it will be better, sandy victims, youeed to watch out, we know there are people with that were

hurt by hurricane sandy they are got getting funding that was propromised to them. right now voice that i want to be voice of people, tell those sandy victims make sure you are getting dollars you deser, that is how it was sold. charles: here is the thing, i agree, should be some sense of accountability maybe a long the way a check list. but,ho is in charge? always feels like the fox guarding the hen house. >> that is it. whoever thought the government would be efficient, would try to do what is best with the taxpayer dollars, that is why we as american people need to make sure that funds are going to what they are m for to actually help the victims in disstress, and when they are misused we vote out the people that misused those funds. charles: would you agree there is a nirtive about government -- narrative goe about government

taking in money, when it rarely gets to people. >> this is why majority of americans do not trust our government to make decisions did not trust the irs with obamacare, does not trust this administration with actual providing release where needed. charles: -- relief where needed 92 this mess across several administrations, big government, is a big in is steak, scotty thank you. >> thankou, charls. >> facebook stock is booming, why is zuckerberg blasting? >> government a comment was don't worry we're not spying on any americans, oh, wonderful that is helpful the company that are trying to serve people in the world. >> boy billionaire crying foul saying that government blows it over nsa scandal but, should zuck's finger be pointed at himself, someone here said that ♪

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charles: top tech ceo lash out against goverent snooping. >> releasing classified information from treason. >> government comment was don't worry we're got spying on any americans. oh, wonderful, like that is really helpful to companies who are trying to serve people in the world. >> yahoo! ceo marisa meyer, and facebook ceo mark zuckerberg complaining but privacy advocate saying they should look in the mirror, they are spying just as much as government. talk about deflection. i have a problem with amount of information that the pvate organizations va gathered on us and what they do with it maybe we should be just as concerned about them. >> poor fat cats are not liking what they had for lunch, we know these folks are people who help

elect an dodg administration whs doing nothing about fact that nsa is demanding such information. and spying on us, and these are the same people, who have repeated he said, your information will be kept private, it is not. now they are ones complaining, this is not making sense, i think you know, capitalist as we are, if you look at this, and ask one tough question, instead of patting your on the back for fact you are suing over the private data, that you given away, to the government, how about you sue to not hav to give it away in the very first place, that makes sense. charles: trying to have it both ways? >> you have to go back to beginning of story book. you know, i heard baby thing, let's take that analogy, to beginning of the sto, beginning of story is, they work

to elect an administration, who is ignoring all privacy invasions, and massive overreach of government and iasion into the private lives to whine about it now, how does that work out? we're used to you know fat cat types, you know defaming some sort of out -- gaining some are on the of -- feigning some out of outrage that is gd pr . charles: you might have answered that. but you know, are we giving up facebook? stop searching on yahoo! stop using google? even though a van went by our street took the photograph of our house. >> some people are, that is the scary part. the folks who are wise to this will be the one that most likely to not use those things, that are a great tool out there, especially in winning elections, this is where they put us over a

barrel, do nothing to help we the people, the we'll that are actually padding their pockets, it would be really nice, like said if instead of suing disclose what they have to disclose if they would just sue to not have so disclose anything at all. charles: silicon valley is really putting a lot of money into politics, for first time, with zuckerberg and his organization, i am not sure, i take it for granted they are left leaning but there are00s of libertarian bents or even conservative, is it possible they could do something things are talking about? >> we can dream, i think proof is in the pudding, you aring into hard question, why would you sue to be able to disclose what you had to disclose, why not sue to not have to disclose that tells a lot, concerns me, the next election, both will disclose a lot to us, about

whether their talk is the walk is in line with their talk. i think, it would be great, it makes no sense, never has made sense why someone for example you know would be have a libertarn bent not believe in the free market and privacy. charles: all right, the government and these -- to a certain degree we give them in information but idea that the way they use it, scares the heck out of a lot of people, people are conflicted, they would like to have a choice, maybe they would have some privacy, gina thank you, great points. >> thank you, charles. charles: you know, when it comes to fixing immigration, dodge administration, said we'll be all the better for it someone here says they are full of it any last requests mr. baldwin? do you mind grabbing my phone

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charles: make is legal that will make us stronger. to hear white house tell it we fix immigration we fix the economy, claiming it the not only reduce deficit but increase wages for everyone by a half percent and claims it provided a fair path toees citizenship, economist, derrick said every onef those claims is wrong, number one reduce the deficit? not true? >> not true. the cbo had a respect showed on budget -- report thathowed this is a deficit increase from day one. you would get more social security revenue those programs

overtime p out more in benefiting than they take in, in taxes, this will increases deficit. charles: and you know taking care of people? you know, hospitalization, schooling education? this is a heavy load on the american taxpayer? >> it is. we looked at a report all different taxes that illegal imigrants pay, they do pay some, with sales taxes and the like, we look at government benefits and services they receive, it is a deficit in trillions over their lifetime. charles: it will increase everyone's wages? how does that happen? >> this is a fantasy, we know that immigration there will be winners and losers, for example formerly unlawful immigrants will see an increase in their wages, we saw this in 1986, when amnesty was passed then, but not going to help everyone, the cbo projects wage decreases among some classes of workers.

charles: i read that report, eliminate visa backlogs and waiting time, make them legal, and that convo that -- conveyers quickly. >> it is also fantasy, you have people waiting in line, you have to clear that back load first, then process up to 11.5 million illegally, it is a fantasy to believe that government could process those people efficiency. charles: all right, lengthy but fair smooth to earned citizenship. >> it is not fair, there are 3 problems with amnesty it is costly. number two, it is unfair. it is unfair to those who came into the system lawfully and waited in line and played by the rules, it is unfair who did not come to united states because this was against our law. they chose to abo away our lay h baobey our laws, it will not wo.

>> and i want to ask you, on this one other claim, improvement am base visa programs -- employment based visa program. >> idea to have more visas for high school workers but this bill is a ste backward, increasing amount of red tape that governments go through to hire the workers, so while idea of increasing visa might be good the way they have done it is not good. charles: we've have gone through the check list, and debunked this, we would agree immigration has been positive for america, overwhelming it is positive in so many different ways, what are we overloong? what is it clear path to making it right? >> way that congress ought to pursue this is step by step, make sure bored ser secure, and

make sure that we're going work place enforcement. no were two things that congress in 1986 promise it would do last time it did an amnesty, they said it would be a one time only thing, and then fix theeing well eing weleing well -- legal immigration system, you would take care a lot of problem, then you can deal with more difficult problem later on. >> derek morgan thank you. >> thank you. charles: i'm sur some of you are wondering what is wrong? you make a ton of money, you are funny and kind, but you can't get a date. jonathan hoenig, we're setting you up on a blind date with

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