charles: jonathan is getting a waiver on a facebook account and they won't be snooping on him today. you uys are the best. i love you. have a great weekend and we will chec ♪ ♪ >> president obama within the confines of the white house. apparently he is waiting for the republicans to say something that he likes. will they? was all of this really worth it? day 11. i am lou dobbs. house republicans passin a funding bill without any conditions in order to end the rtial government shutdown.

behind the closed doors of the white house, president oba has been listening to numerous proposals over the pt two days. for some hse fro house republicans, most recently from their senate colleagues. press secretary jay carney moments ago confirming the constructi talks that have begun. >> the talks have been constructive in that there is a recognition, at least among some republicans and republican leaders that utdown is not good for the american people or the american economy. and that the threat of the full is damaging to the economy and this would be catastrophically damang to the economy and the american people and it looks like there is a possibility of

making some progress here. >> within minutes of that statement, jay carney flatly denied that any negotiations are takin place between the white house and republicans. but with a colection of brand-new polls that show the public is tiring of this stalemate, and wall treet responding ositively and strongly the possibility of a deal and pressure is mountg for both the president and the hous republicans. fox correspondent ed henry has the report. reporter: white house aides declared the talks are in a better placein just a few days ago. and so the president obama was pleased withth the phone conversation that e had with john boehner. >> i had a good conversation the two of them areed and it sounds like a talking did not o quite as well. >> he himself sort of chuckl about the grand bargain that he had been pursuing.

>> this is a grand barrain. reporter:jay crney continues to play a game of semantics, and insting that the president is not negotiating. but it's speaking his mind behind closed door. >> i do't hink the republican @%nators held back in exppessing how they think we ought to move forward. reporter: a new wall street journal poll found that when t comes to the president's strategy of not negotiating until the government has reopened and the debt ceiling is raised, 30% strongly agree and 10% somewhat agree with the president. the 36% strongly disagree d 7% somewhat disagree. the same oll shows that the is far more pressure on republicans to get a deal.

meanwhile voters gave the republican party the lowest number in "the wall street journal" olling which dates to 1889 with more than twice as many people holding a negative review of gop in a negative one. using the numberto suggest the white house has e upper hand in these talks. by taking aim at republican ted cruz and his decision to filibuster the resolution to keep the government oen, which opened the door to big problems like the military death beefits nafta. >> we have shut down the gornment and then that gav the opportunity for this to be awfully mismanaged and shandled by the white house. we hadn't shut down the government, this would not have happened. they st down the government with a fools errand that would not succeed and that is a fact. reporter: here's another reason we couldsee a deal sooner rather than later. six in10 americans have said that if they could, they would

be in a place eve single member of congress in both parties. lou: ed henry from the white house. the funding of obamacare, the precipitate or of the shut down seemingly lost even as we learn more about the programs incredible faus and ineffectiveness. "the wall street journal" today reporting that the biggest flaws with the governments website, it had been identifi and repairs have begun. will be fixed, will be fixed in time to save the program? health care.gov serves 36 states. unfortunately, technical glitches on web servers have little impact on the cost that consumers are facing for health care cerage on the government plan. chief correspondent jim angle has the report.

before the exchanges open,he insurance company said that rates uld soar, but now there are subsidies. reporter: he has been trying to figure out how much he will get. >> i have been clling them every day since october 1. seveveral times aaday in some indications. they have been sometimes enduring 45 inute holes. reporter: they were not able to give him a firm number because of repeated ip problem and they did refer him to the kaiser family foundation site. >> what i am concned about is dotors visits, emergency room visits, nd our premium. reporter: the problem is at that the 24% increase after subsidies. and his co-pay for emergency room visits almost tripled to $350, an important factor with three young boys.

>> were very active, they are not unlike any other attend a 10-year-old boy's. reporter: hey are not the only ones with sticker shock. members of congress also saves onstituents have been complaining as they read some of the letters theyare getting. >> remember they said this care will reduce cost. the premium has increased about 50%, 700-dolar deductible is added in my co-pay has increased. >> mike saw his premiums rise to $750. he saw an increase, even though the policy was unchanged. an increase of 42%. reporter: som fox viewers wrote to us, though the asked their names not be used. this couple said the detailed

information about the rate ineases, which will add 82% of their anal health care costs. d their deductibles increased by a third. >> as far as the rollout is concerned, pat robertson said today that the problems with the exchanges are systematic and profound and indisputable, as he called upn hhs secretary cathleen sebelius to resign for what hecalls grs incompetence. lou: thank you. the government shutdown and obamacare, the topics today as religious and social conservatives from across the country right in the nations capital to attend the values voters summit. possible 2016 gop presidential contende took the stage on day one of the three-day event. chief political correspondent karl cameron has the report. reporter: social and religious conservatives invited three key

leaders in the push to beef on the affordable care act and reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts all potential rivals for the gop presidential nomination in2016. >> in my view, the house of presentatives are doing what they have been doing, which is standing strong. [cheers] [applause] reporter: senator ted cruz, marco rubio, and rand paul, where the first two embraced the strategy of trying to derail obamacare through the budget process. but libel hecklers repeatedly interrupted them and rought the housedow. [cheers] %-and you kno why? because the many men and women in this room scare the living daylights out of me. [cheers] [applause] >> thattis the model for this.

reporter: rad paul was among the firstto recogni the refusal to negotiate would be viewed as unreasonable and rebound against democrats inhe polls aswell. but they barely mention the battle, abandoning rhetoric to focus on mounting violence against christia worldwide. an issue that the author raises with conservives that can sway gop primaries. >> the truth is this is being waged by a fanatical element of islam. reporter: he never specifically mentioned health care, where the debt ceiling, lamenting a broader decline of traditional american valu instead he met with all of the fighting that's going on in washington dc, my biggest fear that we are losing focus on is the biggt sues facing our country, that we are losing control of our nation and that we are losing what we have come toknow as the american dream. reporttr: another headline is

paul rn canceling his appearance to speak by videotape. the chairman of the house budget committee remain on capitol hill working on the gop's ne proposal for a six-week extension of the deadline to raise the debt limit tostart working on reopening the government and long-term entitlement reforms. reporter: has been elusive for decades, the grand bargain, that the political inability to get it done is what many think has caused congress to kick the can down the roadeach month for the last several years. ou: tank you. much more on the shutdown and the republican proposa stay with , we are coming right bac. alltalk and no action, the president and congress working to find a way to end the government shutdown and avoid further public mbarrassment. congressmanoug colls on the latest development coming up

lou: we will be taing politics here. let's put together some contacts. washington politicians taking big hits on polls on day 11 of the government shutdown. new gallup poll shows just 18% of americans are satisfied with the way the nation is being governed. and that is an all-time record low. and wall street journal report finding 60% of amercans are -oting to rlace every single member of congress if they could come and y, that is a record high the associated press has the president's approval rating 37%, a record w. congresses approval also scraping the bottom. a 5% approval in the ap survey. it is no wonder that thegallup said that 60% of all americans

believe a third major party is now needed. that's the highest percentage eeer. and explains the polls pitting republicans hard. joining us as doug collins, a member of the oversight and government reform committee, the judiciary committee, and he also serves as anir force reserve chapla and served in iraq and congress in and come it is good to have you with us. let's start with the negotiations that apparently aren't in view of this. are you optimistic because those talks are going on now? but we might see something between now and my morning. >> good evening. i believe that you have to be optimistic in this business in washington dc. people have a lot to be frustrated with. the inability for people to sit

down, the president who said that will not negotiate, with the senate majority leader who said that i won't accept anything that is being sent over. i think that what we have is th vision that we arr continuing to work hard and try to find solutionand that is what americans expect of us. right now they are frustrated and i think i feel their frustration because i feel them in now way as well. >> for the first time in record numbers, the country isheaded in the wrong direction anthe president has the lowest approval rating of his presidency. to look about 5%, i can't even imagine what you think. when you look at the ititution of which you were an important part, only 5% of the country thinks these guys are worth a lick. >> is disturbing. it is disturbing in a sense that we have so manythgs going on right now and people are talking about this. the likelihood and we have to do

is during the middle of a crisis on controversy and my previous life, there our people to perceive that nothing is being done. but when we do come to a resolution and try to put forward things that will work, ani believe work in the favor of the american people, then we will see what happensin the rearview mirror. we are in the middle of an intense negotiation. the media is beaying everything that we are doing in an interesting light and nothing is getting done in the compromise is hapening. they don't understand that. lou: who dsn't understand the? >> the american people and rightfully so. >> if i may say, i beg to differ with you. i think these polls reflect an american public who understands very well that the congress is poorly led and the members are not sicere and working hard in the nation's interest, but the president has the gall to say that he will not negotiate. he is the man that we will

document later in the broadcast and should be expressing an advisable quality of modesty and humility. i think the american people have shington figured out, don't you? >> yes, you and i agree. i agree that they understand what they are seeing now in his seat as bad in what we have to look at here is moving forward and moving past the inaction we have had over the last few weeks and look forward to a positive solution that they can see that the work was beng done on their behalf. righ now, they are exactly right and i agree with you that you get what's happening, they don't understand why we can't get along. lou: want to turn to the death benefitsor service members to the decision by the department of defense to stop the chaplains ommcelebrating mass and stopping religious services during shutdown you hav the

legislation to reverse that. whatkind of government have the american people been hande hr? and then looking outside of this >> that's right, man have looked outside tsay we are not going to let this happen and when you take up way those who provide this expression, it is disturbing when the first amendment becomes a nonessential part of our governnt and we have a really big poblem. i. ou: disturbing? i think that it is outrageous i

cannot recall a time tht a priest or chaplain could not celebrate mass, that any denomination would be denied an opportunity to serve and address the concerns of the faithful. i mean, i have heard so little protest from the religiou community and churches in this country. >> i want to make sure that the churches and the faithful understand what is happening here. they serve areas inwhich the chaplains that are here cannot

do this. it is appalling that they hide behind us. landed a contract or a monetary vae ever get settle for the fit amendment. >> those are the constitutions and the trations of this country nd also setting aside respect for faith and eligion. and for it to happen. >> i gree the one i appreciate you beg here. come back and we will talk. on wall street today, stocks heading higher, hopes that washington's debt ceiling negotiationare progressing even though the white house denies their negotiatio.

and a $9 billion amount in legal fees and setlements, interne giant google revealing profits funneled to berma last year, which is legal but questionable. the tax rates are about 5%. up next, much of america giving failing grad to the do-nothing congress and we will show you why there is a lot of doing about doing nothing

♪ lou: as congressman collins and i were discussing, there are a lot of very good reasons for the plummeting poll numbers for thi

congress, this president, washington. 60 percent of independents are disgusted with the president. 60 percent of folks surveyed said they wanted thrown out everyone in congress. let's tu our attention to read this president is seems to think he is somehow empowered and titl to not negotiate, to do nothing. he has had somexperience in doing nothi, and we wanted to review that, if we make. the president first called for the syrian president to step down. he remains in power in a war with his own citizens. president obama also said that al keitel is on the run, but it turns out they are very much not running away but carrying the fight in syria, libya, east africa. here at home the president spoke of promises to piling up his wealth.

with nothing has been accomplished. gun-control has failed altogether. comprehensive immigration reform , amnesty sms to be growing nowhere. stay tuned there e are lots of little tricy corners to watch as we watch the stst of this year fanfold. a grand bargain on the budget. today the president referred to it as something like a unicorn imagined but not yet seen, lot of wishful thinking, aot of fantasy, perhaps. and god help the republic if we let these small legislators and this president create a grand bargain. much will be at risk if we do. the deficit promises to have that trillion dollar deficit that he inherited. so far he has given us four

stight years of trillion dollar deficits and three-quarters of a trillion in the most recent fiscal year team obama promised stimulus would bring unemployment bowles 6%. it is now at%. and the president promised to %-$20,500 for a typical family. do you remember that? the result, they have risen by $3,000. i, frankly, cannot remember such a president having served before . as a matter of fact, i don't believe there has never been a president who talks so much into has done so little. we continue in one moment. america's chief a executive overseeing an operation that is mismanaged, and competent, abusive, nearly bankrupt, and still shut down. the best seller of the amateur,

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♪ lou: my next guest says setting downhe government has been president obama's strategy along trying to demonize the republican party and win back the house next year. joing us now is the author of the new york times bestseller, the amateur commend client. thank you for being here. clinging to the monastic life of the present. >> it's also people like jordan

who are saying that this guy,s president does not have the joy of the game, does not enj being president. it is not exercising his constitutional role which is to persuade people said do certain things. lou: he is not think he shoul have to persuader negotiate. he did is not -- i presume that has nothing and then pools r followers if we don't understand that it is our job to llow his lead. >> someone said to me the other day, yes, he is anmateur, but he is in mature. children believe that if they want something, they should get it because they wanted to. that is a very immature way of looking at things, and that is exactly what this president es . lou: as w are sitting here listening to people say he wi not negotiate while he is given negotiating, to what and we don't know, but negotiate from

what could possibly be going to remind to say that he will not negotiate. why does the -- army, he patronizes, condescends to the congress, the sene, and expects 37 percentpproval rating will be the result when it clearly is. >> my reporting from inside the administration is that he believes that by standing firm, not negotiating, although as you say, he is, but he will, in fact , help the democrats to regain control of the house of representativesnd two dozen 14. this has been his strategy since he was reelected. he thinks his only hopef getting his agenda through during his second term is to have aemocratic house. lou: what is left of his agenda? he is the lamus to win back at this early point that i have seen in i don't know how my

presidents. i think you have to go back quite some distance to find one who is in as bad a shape. it is interesting that the mainstream media has not taken as you just did in your chalkboard, a list the things that the president promised to do, syria being one of the topp3 ones is and what he has promised to do with the government shut down. he simply does not follow through. >> i think perhaps part of the reas is there is so much general relief and some much of what he wants to do. thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. take the second to go to our specia site. in miami. follow me on twitter.

why didn't the president's avail themselves of all of that talent? up next onhe broadcast, the general in chae of nearly 500 nuear wheads has been fired. no one will say why. colonel raff peter swords us out and much more here next. ♪

♪ lou: well, this just in, secretary of state making an unannounced trip to afghanistan to talk with the afghan president karzai on t end of october deadline to allow american troops to remain in afghanistan after the end of next yea. there a roughly 52,000 of our troops in afghanistan right now. the obama administration is trying to keep as many as 10,000 of ourforces the pass next year. the air force today fired the 2-star general in charge of its nuclear misses for undisclosed personal misbevior a a loss

of trust. this is the second firing of a senior commander ofur nuclear forces this week. major general michael carey remove from command of the 20th there force. responsible for the tee wings of intercontinental ballistic missil d'amato aed whether the dismissal was out all related. he did not respond directly but said carey i non-alcoholic. r next guest says there is a unprecedented academic the bad judgment and self indulgence concerning military brass. joininn us is fox news strategic analyst, lieutenant-colonel ralph peters. great to have you with this. this is stunning. three stars, now to stars, and all in the nuclear command. >> and we have had four stars, moreourt-martialed, reduced in

rank, but out of t army. there is problem you know history. have always been problems generals. but not in this density, this number. is busily in revenue relieved finances sexual peccadilloes of afirsut for sexual abuse of subordinates, for abusing their positions, wasting money. the list goes on and on. we all kw, the story and everything else. really he seen these guyin action. there certainly are made honorae and good ones, but this problem is epidemic and the stems from the imperial trapngs us around today senior generals and airals. it's amazing how insulated they are. not merely with levels of security, but the aids. general george marshall cut is on grass. now generals and admirals have

dogsbodies to do everything for them. is not just a question. think of the senior members of the entitlement glass. but beyond that there is a disconnect with our troops and in afghanistan. i have never seen the kind of dangerous androfound disconnect that i have seen between these generals this state and the add layers of security, surrounded by electronic toys. once in awhile they fly down, but in the middle of a soldier, have tea with the village elder. and the difference between their perception of what is going on in that war a the perception i get from the soldiers and marines on the gund, the enlisted men to my have never seen a greater gap. lou: let me a you this. on the war seems to be shaping the command structure. it seems to be shaping those generals. it idifferent kind of war.

it is a long war. it is not about generals who are brilliantly creative strategies' and moving forces, the troopp into position in destroying the enemy. we are encased in abstractions. we are engaged in what frankly s.c. has nothing but a process rather than an effort to win the victory. >> i agree with the strategic level. down at the grou levelor those soldiers and marin. lou:melie talking about generals apt. >> it is you know, no mterhat kind of war you iran, the genals have to get down and see what it is like. they have to experience a little bit of what the troops gg rough. for instance,eneral allen, former commander in afghanistan, every time, whenever something will go wrong he would violate a basic rule of and bully t

troops of was saying, oh, the trips have to behave better, the trips to learn to respect and culture. those soldiers and marines out therr, you know, the abuse of women, the corruption, treasury -- and they wonder. i have to say, zero stanley met christa, waterfall he may have had as a strategic leader he is one man he did get out with the troops. if you don't get outith e troops and get dirty you not know what is going on. in 12 years of being a war we have not had a single general office of casualty. lo that is telling them as you said. the idea going on 13 years in afghanistan, afghanistan itself in the early nine months of falling september 11th, under

the control of covert forces, cia and other covert forces. have mess that up to such a degree that it almost goes without notice, almost goes without discussion. we hear the ever clever foowers talkkng about how brilliant the long war sategy is. >> would you not say it is time for our academies to change their ways and for the generals to make up the command sucture to start talking honestly about why they failed to succeed in afghanistan and other efforts and how disappointing it is to all americans tha our troops have been so forward led. >> you are absolutely right. i do agree the political correctness has seeped so deeply into the academy. into the command structure. generalsannot take a stand on anything anymore.

it is pathetic. yet seen this counter insurgency vae. the new york tim unterinsurgency strategy failed miserably. no general will admit that it has failed. and by the way, another point about afghanistan. you're absoluty right. wehould have been out of their in 2002. we are still the. three-quarters of the dead ied on obama watch. lou: thank you for being here. lou: up next, frightening stories about the obamacare impact on our health careystem and the medical community. a shockingly low number of enrollees revled. is it the right number? the "a-team" takes up that issue and much more next.

♪ lou: let's get some more politics and economics. former white house senior adviser to bill clinton, editor of atlas shrugged staff com. post american presidency fox news political analyst. it is good to see you guys. let's start with you. the government is shut down, th president refused to negotiate. it appears he is negotiating. make some sense of that. >> both sides now seem like they are negotiating. i actually think that the government will be reopened by tuesday. lou: what took so long. >> it has not been a gd week. it is a weekn which the broken as of our government has been highlighted. lou: do you think this government is broken? >> it is too big to succeed. i do think that we are watching

a varney crisis, the closing of the park's, the military funerals, denying awarded a funeral. it is to create a crisis when obama calls are scandals phony. you recall the address targeting political groups. the irs from the benghazi, our amssador. lou: the prend president or the pretend congress. lou: angry with the media. >> that is a great answer. >> they are advanci this narrativ this is a phoney crisis. th scandals, irs, fast and furious, phonies candles. very real. this is a phoney crisis, and he generated ts. eleven they say, they don't know when he knew about the funerals, theility funerals.

he did that know about benghazi, the mitary funerals of what is he so busy with? lou: you are there at ground zero. ll us what in the world he is so busy with that he cannot make these his business. >> that was a great question. pretend president or pretend congress. here it definitely looks like a lot of pretending that plague. what is he so busyith? i guess everything from dealing th capturing terrorists overseas and to what is going on here i washington. allegedly you can see both sides. what can he do about the prices? it gets confusing. >> i think and agree with you that this all situation

highlightshat is wrong with washington. the polling shows that the republicans and especially the tea party republicans are being amed much more by the american public for this. i think that long-term is hard to say wherehis is going to find , and if aone will benefit. i don't think that we should be about deciding who will benefit or come out onop, but it is clear to most americans, most people who have been following this that thisrisis was manufactured by the republicans brought about by the t party. lou: the democrats, not the republicans. >> i don't think anyone looks good in this, but it is clear the crisis was brought about by the teaarty faction of the republica party. lou: i d't understand to the tea party faction is. it is a good question.

>> i think the polls are confetti at theoment. themerican people. those republicans were voted in based upon this premise of defunding obamacare. i don't know. more people today support obamacare. lou: there are doubled. when the american people get those new medical bls the medical insurance bills and their wallets, we will be talking about this. >> that is is that the case.

lou: they're thrilled. it looks like a process in which the republicans stumble onto a theme. they wanted to delay the individual mandate for a year because businesses tnks to the largess of the democratic president in this party had year to keept there. also, they wanted to be fair and get rid of their subsidyor the insurance exchanges under obamacare. they felt that was wrong f them and the president. what happened to tho themes? >> i think its gone. it is interesting. what you are sinhere because of the polls that were mentioned earlier, obamacare,,even from paul ryan, eric cantor today, no mention of obamacare except for getting rid of the medical device tax.

other than that, it i all3 budget. lou: thank you very much. that is i for us tonight. all we have time to do is say

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