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next. ♪ gerri: hello, everybody. i'm gerri willis theories tonight on "the willis report" the list of problems, glitches, and snafus keep growing. wait until you hear about the company that the feds hired that is behind most of the mess. also, the state of delaware signs of just one person for obamacare. she is here tonight. wait until you hear her story. in a huge turnaround for one of the country's best known retailers. how best buy fed on the consumer all coming up tonight on "the willis report." ♪
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gerri: more signs that obamacare is failing to day as news of more glitches surface. we now know less than 1%, 1 percent of those who visited the exchange were able to enroll for health care coverage in the first week that it was open. now speculation that the problems could spur the law's biggest booster to delay the individual mandate. joining me now, dr. kevin campbell, a cardiologist, assistant professor at the university of north carolina. chris jacobs, senior policy analyst at the heritage foundation. and the ceo of vital springs technologies. want to get to that news, the expectation by at least some that the president might drop the mandate. here is what congressman tim whose camp had to say. listen to this. >> we are glad that we outline the difficulties with obamacare. we took a charge at this and fell short, but at the end of the day i think we lost the battle but will win the war over obamacare. i think it is entirely possible
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that soon after we finish your the president of the united states will announce that he will delay the individual mandate. that is one thing that we have been fighting for. gerri: that came to me as a shocker. the president might delay the individual mandate. do you think it is a possibility? >> it has to be. if the president is listening tonight and we give him the exxmples of just beyond the difficulties of a rolling into the website, the kind of erroneous data that is coming out when you actually get through should put an immediate stop to this. let me give you an example. a colleague of mine who makes, you know, six figures, the for the website to try to purchase insurance in the state of virginia. there is a plan with a major insurance company that is offered through a banker health care system. i've won't mention the names, but the output that came out was that his monthly premium was going to be in excess of $8,000. 8,500.
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gerri: you gave me is. this is information that he got from the website that he was trying to sign upon. a monthly premium of 8500. a deductible of $12,700. we are talking about money that even if you make six figures to my friend, you are not going to be paying that. does this surprise you? is this in error or is this really the cost? >> it is clearly an error, and this is the problem. they said before that some of the calculators that have to give the outputs have been flawed. the states have been talking about this in terms of the calculation they need to make based on the input. the other issue based on today's top aide in the law street journal, the reason they are having difficulty reporting on numbers is because of the enrollment figures. the age changes along with the federal data hub have to exchange information from of form called the 834 which is a
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daily update on enrollment. gerri: the upshot is that insurers are not getting the information that they need. let's get back to that spirit of want to let other people into the conversation. chris jacobs, we may delay the individual mandate. the thing that is possible? >> the american people are certainly looking for relief. and it is certainly an issue because why can you force the american people to buy a product that they cannot even access. you're forcing people to buy health insurance, but you can access the website. gerri: you cannot access the website, and they're is a deadline. if you don't need the deadline you're breaking the law. what do you make of that? >> i think the whole problem here is the fact that the website was designed to not allow you any information on cost until you are registered. it was done with intention, in my opinion because if you actually saw cost data you would not sign up. you would run away.
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i think that that is part of it because politically i think the president's would like to be able to brag that he has this many people signed up. unfortunately it was rolled out when it was not ready to be utilized in and no one can sign of. gerri: and that brings us to the company that put this thing on line, and i want to talk a little bit about that. a company called cd-i federal. you wonder who is behind this website that works so poorly. well, it is not an american company. it is a canadian company. and what is more, they spent over $800,000 for lobbying washington to get in on this. what do you make of this? have you heard of this company? to they have a big history in your industry? >> we have heard of them, so they are a decent sized federal contractor. maybe they are canadian, but i think that what you hear, the expertise in knowing how to bring together all of these systems, and i can tell you confidently that none of the
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system integrators in the business, it does not matter who you are, the kind of experience that is necessary in order to execute on bringing together the kind of systems to talk between insurance companies and the federal data system, and there are enough people that even attest to that as advisers to the white house that now say that on conference calls there were any number of warnings that were given and concerns to say that they were not ready. gerri: they were not ready and they kept throwing money at it. as a matter of fact and i want you to respond to this. apparently it cost a quarter to develop -- a quarter of what it cost to develop the obamacare website as it did to develop the first iphone. now, sit back and think about that. how transformational was the iphone? what a big deal that was. they spent a quarter of this 600 million that we spent rolling out obamacare on that. what is going wrong? what is your analysis? >> you are exactly right, and they kept dumping money to my
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good money after bad this year. as everyone knew the exchanges were behind schedule with all sorts of logistical problems. it shows the problems you have when government tries to interfere. you don't see global bidding to be done see amazon bidding. instead, you have companies whose job it is still win government contracts in and go off the government time. gerri: that is all they do. one of the things that was being brought up just a moment ago is the reaction in insurance circles which i think is critical. they are not being told who is signing a for their policy. they don't know. they don't get time the reports. the reports were wrong. that information. but will that mean for the system if the insurers cannot even understand what is going on? >> i think it is simple. garbage in equals garbage out, and i think that you are getting a system here a patients coming to seek health care.
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bear. are not going to know how to manage any of the state and not to mention that they're pouring all of this income and i am not certain that it is secure. we talked about that before because there are lots of people who can touch your personal data because of these exchanges and the way you sign that. gerri: a lot of that tweeds and e-mails i get, people asking me, how can i sign-on without getting the government, this personal information? can you do that? >> no, but look at what happened last night. on the one hand people don't want to provide information. but take an example of what you need to do to qualify to get the subsidy. the way that the website is set up right now, you could make up information on your income and be eubsidy with no means of verifying it. so one of the things that i actually wrote about a week ago, one of the five things was the thing that actually got passed just a, the fact that verification of income.
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if you are going -- gerri: that is improvement. >> it is. because if you are going to impose a penalty then you have to be able to verify the information or get taxpayers to shell out in terms of subsidizing what other people are going to get because they cannot afford it. yet we are not verifying it. just give everyone a blank check. it makes no sense. gerri: that is absolutely right. i have to tell you. i am going to give you the last word here. you know, we worried about the insurers, the patients, what about the doctors? what is going to happen right now because of obamacare and the way that it has been rolled out? >> you know, our job is to provide high-quality efficient care to patients who needed to be right now we are scrambling because we're going to have an overwhelming need and more patience there, but we are going to have a decrease in reimbursement. we are trying to do more with less. with all the documentation requirements and electronic
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requirements that are being put in place, there is a burden, and i think ultimately it destroys the doctor patient relationship. i cannot spend the same time learning about you and your family and your health needs that i could have otherwise. gerri: i bet i don't end up with the doctor. i bet i end up with a nurse's aide is something. that is my bed. one person to people who tried to sign that were able to in that first week. astonishing a permission. great panel, great conversation. thank you for being here. thank you. and now we want to know what you think about all of this. here is our question. should the woman who runs the health and human services department to be fired? the one who wrote this out. should it be on her? bogdan to gerriwillis.com, but on the right-hand side of the screen and i will share the results of the end of the show. i have to tell you, we of that so much response from you about
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your concerns about obamacare, questions. we are doing another college show monday. we are here for you. that is our mission. we answer your questions, listen to your concerns. we bring in experts. start e-mailing and tweeting. and then on monday there will be a toll-free number to call to ask me and the panel of experts what you need to know about obamacare. we are here for you. more to come today including ways to tell if somebody is lying to you. next, relief of the end of the government shut down is being tempered by the idea that this is all billing to happen again after the holidays. the latest from washington after the break. ♪ when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:
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and we're here to help start yours. gerri: the shutdown may be over, but the damage to the economy is done. that is the conclusion of standard and poor's today which put a dollar amount on the past two weeks circus in d.c. the costs include back pay for the federal employees. they get a paid holiday. in the labor department said 70,000 federal workers that also
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apply for unemployment benefits. so this all has to be sorted out. with me now, policy director at public notice. what is the cost, in your view? do they have it right? you know, you would think that shutting down the government would save money, not cost money. >> you know, when they give furloughed workers back pay, it is a free vacation. but i really think that this is about our standing in the world, where investors see the u.s. bond. does not look like we have our act together. gerri: i have to agree with that. in fact, from that same report, listen to this. people are afraid the government policy of brinkmanship will resurface and with it the risk of another shutdown of worse, they will remain afraid to open up their checkbooks which points to another, but holiday season. lots of impacts being seen by different people. what do you think it means for the economy? what do you think it means our standing in the world?
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>> well, you know, washington is budgeting with band-aids. we have a government spending that runs to the middle of january. i hope you have a good christmas and happy new year because you will be right back at this two weeks after the new year. gerri: i am laughing, but it is not funny. it is really not. the things that keep these people apart need to be solved and dealt with. i have to tell you, i have no confidence that it will become an that think it will be another three years of grinding through this point by point. in the see any reason for optimism. >> it is a shame, and it does hurt our standing in the world. if you are investor why would you want to invest and we do not have our act together. politicians say jobs in the economy is the most important priority is really think it would get there act together. gerri: i would love to see that because we do not have good performance in the economy right now. meanwhile, this bill that passed
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in the wee hours, by the president in the early hours of the morning, it is loaded with pork. these guys told us that they were up late working diligently for us, and it is loaded with a bunch of money for congressmen in their districts. this is not about fixing the problems. this is about making these guys euros in their hometown. >> some of this is the way that it has always been. they have always done that. but i think so much of the problem in washington has always been this way. from member is as rich as mr. lundberg was in new jersey, they probably should not be getting $174,000 from the federal government. gerri: it may be the way that it has always been, but that does not make it okay. i think we need to change the terms, stop spending so much. i have no idea how to get washington to do that, even when they close down the spend more money. it is infuriating. >> it is.
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at the end of the day elections have consequences which is what this is about. america is divided and it is reflected here in washington which is unfortunate. gerri: thank you for coming on. good to talk to you. well, coming up later in the show, after being left for dead, one of the nation's biggest electronic retailers is back. find out what's best buy is doing right and how you can profit in the next we answer the question how do you do that it be the best way to spot a liar. you really can't, it is someone who wants your money or somebody was married to. i don't know. ♪ ask me what it'sike
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gerri: the truth about lines. we are good at telling them. secrets from a psychotherapist coming up next.
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gerri: have you lied? they whoppers, the white lines. everyone fibs once in awhile. we are all in good dishonest company. 60 percent, real number, 60 percent of adults can't get in as the telling . most will tell three. why can't we tell when other people of lying to us? joining me now with how to do that, psychotherapist betty : three thank you for coming on the show. >> good to be with you. gerri: do you really mean that? >> i actually do. it is not . gerri: this is an issue for me. i am just going to ask you right out. how do you tell if someone is lying? >> very, very easy to read it would not be the truth. would be alive if i were to say that there were ten different ways to tell. some of the typical things, not
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able to look you straight in the eye. you know, they move around and have a lot of body language, perspiring. the fact is, there are some wonderful wires around to show absolutely no signs whatsoever. gerri: howdy in no? >> in important matters in our life we really need to do our homework. the story of a patient of mine recently who was a serial jeter. and his wife demanded that he go and have a lie-detector test, which he did. gerri: a healthy relationship. >> a very healthy relationship. that is a lie. and he passed a lie-detector test with flying colors. he told me privately he had taken a drug before the test which was able to really slow down his heart rate. gerri: they could not tell. >> they could not tell. fortunately she was able to tell later on. gerri: look.
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the little things, big thing spirit of things i found funny, 30 percent of folks have lied about seeing the godfather. a lie about seeing the godfather. i don't know why you would. people line, big and small things. >> we talked about this. you were saying, it is all sort of about context. you need to understand. trust but verify. what do you mean? >> you have to do your homework. for example, if you are dating somebody, this is what my book is about, you have to really do your due diligence. if you're buying a car you don't want to buy the first car that you look at. gerri: a criminal investigation on the person i am dating. >> i believe now, before one maries, we should do a criminal background check and find out
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whether they're is a history of sexual abuse. i think that we cannot find out too much information about people who we really want to be involved with. i really feel that way. gerri: doesn't that undermine trust in the relationship? >> it may sound like that much but we cannot protect ourselves too much here. we have to empower ourselves and find out as much information and we can. people are going to lie, some people are very savvy about it and we have to take care of ourselves. end of story. gerri: in the story and segment. great job. i feel educated. coming up next, and i mean this and it is the truth. drastic action being taken. pensioners are being forced. next, she made history by being the first and only delaware residents to sign up for
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obamacare. janice baker tells us her story next. ♪
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paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ ♪ >> from our fox business studios in new york, here again is gerri willis. gerri: the state of delaware celebrating many americans have been trying so hard for so long, celebrating their first obamacare in raleigh, but it was not without a fight. joining me now, small-business owner janice baker. of want to say welcome to the show. you are the first public obamacare in raleigh, and i have to say, it has been a difficult go. you have been turned down three times in the private market for a pre-existing condition that we will describe, but it is fairly minor. tell us about what happened as you try to sign up for obamacare. >> i started calling in right on october 1st.
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i was looking at this policies and everything online. i tried to apply online, but it would not let me register. i try to set up an account probably about six or seven times, and it would not let me set up an account. i got on the phone, called the 800 number. i spoke to a gentleman. he told me it would take about an hour-and-a-half to fill out the form. by the time he would do it for me. we did it, went all the way through. got the last page and is computer froze. gerri: what is interesting about this that it not really realizes if you try to sign a by telephone there using the same system that you are in a sense and will have the same problems that you do. as i understand it it took something like seven hours waiting on the phone to eventually get to a situation where you can enroll. how frustrating was this whole scenario for you?
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>> it was frustrating. starting to feel like a cog in the wheel and that i would never get this accomplished. but then i just tried to keep a cool head. i kept trying and looked at a link, a page which says if you are having trouble logging in click here, and i did. i found that if you follow the instructions for clearing the cash and clear the cookies and delete your browsing history, it would help. i tried that, got back on line. sure enough, it was my computer. gerri: well, all of this technical jargon. it is one of those things keeping people out of the system. the end of the day you came up with the planned charges you a $700 premium which is less than you were paying in the private market. you satisfied? >> i am. the deductible is much lower. the monthly payment is lower. i think it is a much better plan
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a lot of preventive health care which is something that i am all for. gerri: i was curious. a lot of our viewers are worried about all of the information that they have to provide to the government to get this to happen a lot of personal information about income, all kinds of details. was there anything you were asking that you were surprised by? >> i did not actually qualify for the subsidy, so i did not have to go into the income section of a. i feel that probably that information is out their somewhere in the hell if someone wants it bad enough. gerri: i think the government probably has it. thank you for coming on. appreciate your time and congratulations for being number one. >> thank you. have a good night. >> thank-you. gerri: obamacare becoming an issue in the ongoing bankruptcy sought in detroit. state workers are being dealt a blow this week as the city announces major changes to its retiree health benefits program. here to weigh in, fox business
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reporter kate rogers. what is going on? >> this is the first blow that has been dealt to the group of retirees that has been waiting influx to see if their pensions have been touched. just this week to try man of letters to these workers telling them that anyone under 65 and retired is now going to not have health care benefits and instead this city will be giving them all $125 stipend monthly to go shop, on the obamacare changes in michigan. gerri: dumping these people on to the obamacare exchange. where are they coming up with the money to pay? they are bankrupt. >> exactly. the city estimates this will bring the cost for this group of retirees, about 8,000 workers from 170 million down the 50 million. we have to remember, the total liability is 18 billion. health care benefits, about 6 billion out of the total 18. gerri: how happy are these
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workers? i can imagine that they are not. >> they are not happy. it is hard to you this story. the workers were promised that they would have full dental and health care benefits once they retire for not only themselves but their spouses and children. now they don't have coverage. the retirees who are not yet medicare eligible have that $1,205 monthly stipend cigar shop. gerri: detroit so mismanaged their money. they promised everything, not just to the retirees, but also to existing union members. there is an investigation right now and to whether what they did was legal and not give it a lot of people complaining about this particularly people who of detroit debt in municipal bonds have a claim. i hear what they have to say. i am sympathetic as well. >> it is hard not to feel bad for both groups. you will get more clarity in these workers will know whether or not there actual retirement funds will be touched.
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this is just the health care portion. we are still waiting the year if the funds will be taxed. gerri: detroit could have done a better job managing their money. they badly mishandled it. thank you for bringing us the story. coming up, we will do another call-in show to listen to concerns, answer your questions. we are here for you and want to hear what your worries are, concerns. tweet us. we want to hear from you. the phone number on monday will be the one on your screen now, 877-249-9626. write it down, call us in the 6:00 hour. and coming up later today, a must see segment for parents. how to tell if your child is being bullied before it is too late. next, retail lessons learned. how best buy turned a downward spiral into major momentum and what you can learn from it. ♪
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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you. gerri: is one of the biggest corporate comebacks this year, once seen as the next big retailer to go bust, bust by his back and on a tear, stock up over 250% this year, despite strong competition, walmart, amazon. why is this company not going the way of circuit city? joining me now, president of baja coal bound capital management. the big box format, just a disaster. they were having a heck of a time. what did they do right? >> a lot of people did write them off, and the stock got so cheap which is part of why the stock is done so well. they had a big moment with a new if they did not change something was going to give. they have too many stores, get rid of some. that helped.
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stores were too big. they made in smaller. that helped the bottom line. next they partner up with microsoft and samsung. helps business and you get a good move. gerri: that me ask you a question about downsizing the number of stores and a footprint, the space, you can only do that once. that happens one time, you get the benefit in earnings and then it is over. do you think they have more in the pocket to show good news? >> that will be the issue going forward. my big issue right now is while all of this is going on, sales growth is a big fat nothing at this point. the last four quarters sales are down. if that does not change the stock will end up pitting a wall at some point in time. a great move. it. gerri: it didn't pay have matching prices, which is a big deal, especially in the electronic space. my has been is an offense and not know of this stuff and always find something cheaper
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online. have they been able to break that mold? >> to a certain extent. i go in there and check it out. you can see people with their palms pressing on it when they find something. people are still looking around. best buy is a lot more careful on price. they know that they are in tremendous competition, want people to stay in the store and are doing everything possible for that to occur. gerri: there is company occurring to me right now. here's a company that can learn a finger to from best buy. what should they take from the example? >> unfortunately i do not know if j.c. penney is as far gone at this point. they hired a doofus that did not listen to the customer, did not listen to the client, and the number one rule of retail is know your customer and your client. you know the whole story. at this point in time it is a much broader business, of lot tougher to turn around because
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you have walmart and the rest of their better eating them up right now. gerri: i heard that come christmas this season will be on soon enough. some retailers, brick and mortar types have actually managed to gain even footing with some of the electronic retailer's in terms of price. you go to amazon and not everything is the cheapest. a sell absolutely everything on the planet but are not the lowest cost offer in every category. do you think that there is an evening of the playing field when it comes to electronic stores that are on line versus stores that are brick and mortar? >> i think we are getting to the point now with most products that everybody knows where everyone is at. at think pricing is not as wide as it used to be and will continue to narrow going forward. we are just at a time right now with a shopper gets it and they're able to bargain in store by just showing price. one of the things her best buy is working on.
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they get a billion people on the website every year, but i only close above 1 percent of that. they raise that they will get another 250 million in net income. that is something that will work on. if the success it will be a big help. gerri: best buy or amazon, which stock deal by? >> that is a tough one. best buy is probably in a later stage. my biggest problem with amazon is they are still losing money, and until they stop these the film centers that never ends, i'm not sure i would buy either. think that the better move possibly for the longer term will be amazon. gerri: all right. stay home. although i think at some point they made a huge investment. thank you for coming on. it is great to have you on the show. thank you. you always have interesting things to say. well, time for a look at the stories you're clicking on tonight. the stock market mostly higher
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as investors go back to focusing on earnings, not on washington. the s&p and nasdaq seeing green. the snb closing above its record high. the dow was tracked down by disappointing results. the government shut down inflicted unnecessary damage on their economy and hurt our credibility. he now wants congress to move forward on his agenda including immigration reform. congressional negotiators start discussing the budget. weekly jobless claims dropping to a seasonally adjusted three and in 58,000. that figure may be distorted things to backlogs and computer changes in california and michigan. after years of losses american airlines is finally making money . amr says it made $209 million of . 238 million the year ago. the profits still include bankruptcy reorganization costs.
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as i some of the hot stories right now on foxbusiness.com. still to come, my "2 cents more," and tragedy at a florida. a 12 year-old girl kills herself after being bullied online. you probably heard this story next on the spot in the size that your grandchild, your niece, your nephew might be in trouble. great information. if
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gerri: the danger is a cyber bullying, had you can know if your child is a victim of the one doing the bullying. details in two minutes.
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♪ gerri: the reason florida tragedy involving 12-year-old rebecca sedgwick brings to life rising concern about cyber bullying suicide.
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weeks after her death at her own hand, two arrests were made after one of the accused allegedly wrote this on her facebook page. yes, i know i believe rebecca, but she killed herself. i don't give up -- and i will let you imagine what the off the road. how can you know if your child is not being bullied or being bullied to make joining us now, fox these medical debt 18. thank you for being on. suicide rates, this cyber bullying seems to be out of control. how can you know if your child is being believe? >> number one, don't assume your child will come forward with this because there is a humiliating aspect. people are bullying you then make you feel we can do in necessarily want to tell loved ones that you are feeling the week.
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avoiding france, think about bullying at the top of the list because this is so common that now we have to think of it before rather than later. gerri: i don't understand why this on-line stuff, the social networking stuff really promotes bullying. >> number one it is like, you know, when you are talking about road rage and find people with false courage. it is one thing to lack of empathy enough to bully someone in person. you can believe someone from a distance without taking the same risk that you are going to get pushed back or found out and also don't forget, facebook is already a false form. this is a place where people are painting their personalities as something that they are not. so depersonalization is epidemic on facebook. it is easy. i could not do it, you could not do it, but police can consider facebook people, others on facebook to be nonhuman.
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like cartoon characters. they are stocking. gerri: they depersonalize those folks and don't even think about the consequences. that is the mindset of a bully. the mindset of the person being bullied. what is it? they feel the minister? what tools do you give your child or your niece or nephew or grandchild? what kind of mental tools to you give them said that they would not even respond to that? >> number one, you have to arm them at the beginning to say, if you get feedback that is negative, i know that you can feel like you have no one on your side. this happens to people. now suggesting it happened to you, but it does happen to kids in school. gerri: dr. keith, come on. the child is not going to know what the word feedback means. have you speak their language, talk to them when they are. >> i was talking to your audience, so i am assuming we are adults.
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she talked to your kids, what you're saying is if you're to of years of of of of the brick. we are really going to have to refigure the public schools. would you say, listen, bottom line, you have to come to us when you feel afraid. if somebody is making you feel less than, get a team behind you. we will win every fight and then you have to back it up. back it up because you cannot assume that the schools will do your bidding for you. you may need a lawyer. did your kids into therapy. people wait too long. they think they can do everything themselves. gerri: when do you have to get a therapist? shouldn't you be able to handle this as a family? >> not really. the bottom line is, you know what, bullying can be so toxic, so beneath the radar, so pervasive. it is one thing to have a couple kids in the school yard after you. imagine having a couple thousand kids on facebook you are messaging you and then messaging yourself telling you terrible
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things about yourself, threatening you. this is an onslaught of stress that most adults could not handle, that a loan at 12 year-old. gerri: you make a good point here. and as a parent or guardian i think you should be thinking about looking over their shoulder. i think you should be signed on right behind these kids. >> i am a friend of my daughter on facebook. she does not much like it. it does not matter. if you're going to broadcast your life to an audience of millions, i'm going to be one of the people in the audience. gerri: that is great thinking. thank you for coming on. great stuff, and i like the way you brought it down to that 12 year-old kid point of view. >> with your help. gerri: clear as a bell. thank you. >> thanks. gerri: you as well. we will be right back with my "2 cents more". and the answer to our question of the day. should kathleen sibelius' be fired? let me know. health and human services. ♪ when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:
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gerri:er. >>ly three weeks off the roll out of obamacare, the glitches and problems continue, his allies call it embarrassing. is it time for heads to roll? some secretary sebelius at health and human services be the first? here is what some are you are posting on. my facebook page, yes. the roll out of obamacare has been a dismal failure. >> and gary, yes that is en of the day she is responsible for this mess. you told me to twitter we should fire the president, log on to gerriwillis.com, here is some of
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your e-mails. if president obama was the ceo of a corporation, he would be looking for a new job. the buck stops with the boss. obamacare is a job killer, we're all going to pay a lot more out of pocket in the future. and here is larry from florida, how long will the american people keep letting the government waste and steal our money? >> we love hearing from you. and if you are asking yourself, who that company behind obamacare exchange? who designed this mess? we wondered too. it is not an american company, government outsourced contract to an i-t contractor called cgi federal, a subsidiary of a vgi group based in questio queb,
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canada. own secrets say the that vgi federal spent $800,000 lobbies washington since 2006, money has been rolls, other companies worked on the roll out but cgi was the main operator. even as government officials were getting warnings, health care. gov site was not ready for roll out, administration was putting more money into it coastal cost $ 600 million, another reason that government should not be in the business of running health care, coming up monday, our obama care question and answer session, get your questions ready, we devote the hour to you. we take your phone call, e-mail, tweets, this monday night, at 6:00 p.m. eastern. that is it for willis report,
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thank you for joining us, dvr the show if you didn't catch us live, have a great night, okay thanks. lou: the federal government back on the job today but it doesn't appear we're any better off for their more than two week vacation, i am lou dobbs. good evening, federal employees are back to work, after 16 days off. but they appear to be the only real beneficiaries of the shut down, congress last night approved government funding through january 15, raised debt ceiling through february 7. that means we have about three months to go before we could be right back where we began. the national parks are reopen, and zoos

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