what you say? >> it is his problem, but the buck doesn't stop there. neil: gerri: thank you and we will have a great night. >> president obama defends his health care program today in a speech from the rose garden. the president obama didn't take responsibility for the failed rollout, nor did he take any questions. obamacare isn't working. i am lou dobbs. good evening, everyone. president obama says that there is no excuse for the problems that have plagued the obamacare website. during an afternoon speech from the rose garden, flanked by a more human props, this time

people who have allegedly been successfully enrolled in obamacare, the president would not answer any explanations as to why the website hasn't worked and if it well. or who he is calling upon to fix the problems were a time frame as to when the website will be up and running. >> the website has been too slow, people have been getting stuff during application process. and i think it's fair to say that nobody is more frustrated by that than i am. because precisely the product is good, i want the cash registers to work. i want to checkout lines to be smooth. and so i would like people to be able to get this great product. lou: the president insisting his plan is more than just a broken website is urging people to apply over the phone or perhaps by snail mail.

fox news senior white house correspondent wendell goler has our report. >> backed by a few people that have navigated the online sign-up process, the president processed the many thousands mourn that the problem will be fixed. >> no one is madder than me that the website isn't working as well as it should. reporter: he insisted that this website problem does not reflect the rest of the affordable care act. but his critics say this sign-up should've been one of the easiest things to design. >> the inability of the federal government to set up a website where people can go on and buy something like health insurance does not bode well for the much more complicated elements of this law that are yet to be ruled out. reporter: after weeks of blaming the problem on an unexpectedly large number of people attempting to enroll, the white house admitted that there's more to it than that.

>> has created problems because of how large it was and it shows other problems and glitches as well that are being addressed. reporter: mr. obama reminds people that they don't have to enroll online. >> you can still buy the same quality of affordable insurance plans available on the market place the old-fashioned way. off-line. either over the phone or in person. reporter: some republicans want kathleen sebelius to resign. house members want her to testify thursday in a committee hearing, but she has declined because of a gala in boston the night before. she has also offered to testify next week. one question is how the government spent $200 million on the website. >> at $200 per hour, that would be a million man hours. 5000 man-hours. i don't think they had time. reporter: for some people come

in the website ened the door ton the individual mandate which republicans have been calling for. jay carney says people who don't have access to health insurance presumably because of sign-up problems won't have to pay a fine for not having that insurance next year. lou: thank you. we'll just we will just have to wait to see tomorrow how many pinocchio's "the washington post" has ready. the president taking no responsibility for the troubles of health care.gov and neither is his health and human services secretary. despite statistics showing interest in obamacare well below the administrations expectations. jim angle has our report. >> even as president obama for the website needs a makeover, 19 million people were posted to be able to logon according to the president. some 500,000 filled out applications, many in state-run

exchanges and about half in the federal administrations run by them. >> 250,000 were able to set up accounts and that's about 1% of the people that try to get on the website that i've been able to set up accounts. reporter: even that number is not actually due to buying insurance. >> they are telling in the various insurance companies that we should expect to be getting hundreds of thousands of enrollees and they are getting dozens or a few hundred. so the number of people that are actually buying insurance is a very tiny number. reporter: the administration says the goal is to sign up 7 million uninsured people by next march, but critics warn that because of the website problems, that goal might be elusive. >> they are getting duplicate and triplicate of data and i think it's an indication of how bad the information comes through. reporter: many people think they signed up, when in fact it did not go through. >> it is possible that there are

people who think that they have signed up but have not signed up. so that is going to become a really big problem when it comes around to the end of the enrollment and people find out that they don't have insurance. reporter: there is another huge question hanging over obamacare. why is the goal to only sign-up 7 million of the 40 million uninsured? many say they have to get three quarters of the uninsured for obamacare were financially. >> that is 30 million people that ultimately have to be in this program would have to buy individual health insurance in obamacare. and the objective is 7 million? reporter: today the president told anyone having a problem with the website to just call the 800 number that he gave and they can sign-up and 25 minutes. but when fox business call the number, we were told that they couldn't help us and they were permitted to share any information about the plans or subsidies that they could send some paperwork in about two weeks. lou: is a great one a plan comes

together. well, we have some additional information for you on the company to the obama administration contracted with to build this website, health care.gov. you probably won't be surprised to learn that the third-quarter revenues of 160%, but the stock today was down almost 3%. the obama administration strong arm tactics is not also aimed at the hhs that the epa. according to two congressman, lamar smith and chris stewart, they charged that new rules prosed by the epa will give the agency unprecedented control over private property all across the nation. at issue ar wetlands, dry streams, and maybe even mud puddles. shannon bream has the report.

reporter: calling it a massive power grab, lamar smith and chris stewart of utah are asking the environmental protection agency or the epa to explain why it is in a rush to implement yet another federal regulation that they argue could have a significant impact on private property. without input from congress. the agency's current approach appears to represent politicize regulatory processes lacking the proper consultation and the peer review of the american people. the agency says because of uncertainty of who could be subjected under the clean water act, it's in the process of drafting new federal regulations based on a study it commissioned to provide clarity and in particular it centers around small streams and wetlands, some that only flow during certain parts of the year.

i'm saying makes sense to regulate water sources because they eventually lead to bigger waterways. >> it's really a restoration of the epa's authority and is taking away the clean water act works back so that works the way the water works in the real world. >> others worry that by focusing on something as transient as water that may come and go with rainstorms, they could've disabling the regulation of storm on off on private land across the country. greg abbott has a number of cases pending against the epa, including on the supreme court will hear in early 2014. >> this is part and parcel to a president barack obama has said, and that is he is going to use the epa in ways that the congress has not gotten along with him on tour they said that they have received a letter from congressman smith and will review it. as for the new regulations, they should be issued within the next few months and the public will be able to weigh in afforded is

final. lou: shannon bream. much more on the heavy-handed tactics coming up with the "a-team". we will be right back. there is no sugar coating it as the president says. the obamacare website has a few problems. he is mad and upset, but he's not apologizing. tim carney and charlie hurt join tim carney and charlie hurt join us with their theories coming up

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lou: attorney general eric holder calling for new strategies and handling active shooter situations. the attorney general is general saying that mass shootings have

tripled over the last few years and 12 this year alone. and he wants first responding officers to be equipped to engage a shooter that is active weather than we were support from s.w.a.t. teams. for more on the president's efforts today to resuscitate obamacare without sugar coating the problems are really fixing him in the new 800 number created to bypass the website, we have the senior political columnist tim carney. it's great to have you with us. we also have charlie hurt. it's good to have you with us as well. the idea that the president has a 15 minute talk in the rose garden everything is supposed to go away. how did he come across? >> i think he came across as a little bit condescending. he did try to kind of distance himself from the people buildin the website, which is interesting.

he's trying to distance himself. it seems like this is some serious analogue for the data that has been put out there. [laughter] >> is it okay? >> going along with what he said, i would say that he was more than a little bit okay. he was condescending. he began his remarks by seeming to blame this entire mess of the government shutdown, and then once he got into it, he started

at the back and blaming republicans for it. i thought it was a most unseemly lou: obamacare, he's talking about it being more than a broken website. and there's no access beyond the website, so it is a broken website. jim angle reported that when he tried to call the number he was told by the navigators that they can't give him any information. so some paper products on down the road. [laughter] >> the reason this is more than a website problem is that if it is hard to logon, who will logon? the people thateed health

insurance the most and the exchanges are not supposed to be held just for people who need it the most but they need to bring in young healthy people and that is why they have mandated that we buy it. so the people who don't need the insurance, then you really need a big policy coverage. you get the really sick and elderly pools and they are practically going to be driven out of business or get approval to hike premiums completely undermining the point of a lot. lou: as he suggests, the real deal is that, with 2.5 million young people that don't insurance who give them the money to be a participant in this, or they have a deeply flawed health care insurance model. >> you know, i would say that while we are all focusing on these snafus at the beginning, there are basic technical problems that you would think even the federal government

would be able to work out some of the kinks over time. but the real problem is the problem that you have mentioned in the one that can just mention mentioned and described, which is the system doesn't work. this program, the concept is not going to work and it's going to fail. i do not say that wishfully. but if you look at the numbers and, of course, this rollout doesn't give us much faith that they studied any of that. but the thing that i wonder about is it is so much worse than even we expected it to be that it makes me wonder if somewhere they didn't want the whole thing to fail, which is what they kind of wanted to do from the beginning. i cannot help but wonder if that isn't sort of part of the strategy here. lou: there are times on the

simplest explanation is generally the correct one and i think what we have here is a failure to lead them to manage and to execute. it may be more complicated, as you suggested. but i think that's more than adequate. we thank you both for being with us tonight. and i think you. lou: on wall street, stocks finished and it was lack luster for the volatile session. the dow jones is down seven points. the nasdaq is down and up six points. the u.s. navy is now investigating the bribery scandal that includes kickback that may cost the american taxpayer millions of dollars in that report is next. that report is next. stay with when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do.

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lou: disturbing details emerging over iran's nuclear program. the sixth world power asking around to slow and not to stop low-level uranium enrichment in two of its facilities. this according to an iranian

website. the obama administration declined to comment on this report. even the u.n. security council has insisted in several resolutions the base.then halt all enrichment. >> they are now embroiled in a major bribery scandal involving hundreds of millions of dollars. two top commanders and a senior agent for the criminal investigative service of the navy are among those arrested and more are expected to be implicated as this investigation continues. prosecutors say it was essentially a been overbilling scam that involved a contractor and theater tickets, expensive trips, prostitutes and more were paid for. but joining us now, strategic analyst ralph peters. it's great to have you with us. if we may begin with this report out of her ram, the six nations

are working with them to lift the sanctions and, we thought stop in uranium enrichment -- it turns out they are only asking them to slow down. does that seem plausible? and if so, what do you think? >> it sounds absently nods to me. they have a strategic role. the strategic goal is to have nuclear weapons and hegemony over the persian gulf. this is one of the rare occasions. the only reason that iranians have come back to the table to the extent that they authentically have is because of the pain from sanctions and people are angry but my fear is

that the obama administration, although they initially said that they would lift sanctions until the iranians really showed us some leg, obama wants something that he can betray as a success and negotiations appear to slow the program and it would really be a terrible thing because iran is treacherous and duplicitous and they need our help on the sanctions and i look at the whole problem like this, that they are better than us in negotiations and they have dragged this out for 10 years and i tell them that most of them are persians and the persians invented chess and our administration played checkers. lou: this administration has more than enough to contend with

in foreign policy. the arab league is 23rd on the issue of syria, it is unclear what is happening there. as the chemical weapons inspectors are trying to gather up this material and at the same time the idea that they would stabilize the region seems to be pure fantasy. >> okay, we need to get beyond politics and duplicity and all of the harvard theories and ask ourselves what does america need and what is america's interest in syria. one is to get rid of the chemical weapons so they do not fall into the hands of al qaeda. the second objective should be to do everything we can to kill the members of al qaeda and the franchise is in syria. there are at least 10 to 15,000

al qaeda related fighters fighting against the saudi regime. and i don't like bashar al-assad and i will make apologies for him. so again, the obama administration has no sense of strategic direction. lou: now the scandal in the u.s. navy is unfolding and it looks like it will get broader involving the u.s. navy and involving even, at least at this point, one member of the navy enforcement system. so what is going on and how can the navy not conduct greater oversight over itself?

and right now i think you have a systemic problem in all the services more important than killing our country's enemies, and because of all the money that has been thrown around in the last dozen years, there has been a get-rich-quick mentality that has even affected contractors in the service, people doing the contracting. this is singapore ship company found successful naval officers were bribed with money, hookers, vacations, these guys were in a position to steer ship where this company from singapore

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lou: the largest lawsuit filed against internal revenue service just grew stronger, lawsuit that tea party groups and dozens of others organizations have filed, expanded to 22 states, attorneys representing targeted groups, say they want the focus to be on the president, his role, and effort to hol hold him accounta. jay, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, lou. lou: you have economy panded this -- you have expanded there. now an all-star cast. >> that is right, what happened over last 4 months since original lawsuit was filed. we followed evidence where it has naturally led, between the congressional hearings, and freedom of information act

request, and testimony now been out, and e-mails released. we found a pattern -- if you look at president of the united states' statements about the c4 organizations, he talked about in 2009, these groups that are -- high sai he named the c4s, ad everyone acts shock that internal revenue service targets these organizations, not only for review but stopping theic. theic. process from -- exempt process from beforing forward, we know that information went from irs to federal election commission, which is a violation of the law, this is a natural fallout of what times allow in a case like

this. lou: it is hard to imagine that it was not that long ago we heard that, as first administration reaction and the agency reaction to the charges of targets conservative groups, politicallization of internal revenue service. your timeline, aclj, to the point you made from september of between 1 2010 to october, president said like, organizations with benign sounding names, a problem for democracy. he complained the next week after the 14th, about the individuals who are hiding behind those front groups, as he styled them, calls them a threat to our democracy. this is stunning stuff. >> then lois lerner in a series of e-mails released saying

everyone is clammering for us to do something to clampdown. our question is who is the everybody? we know now, coming from highest echelon, i will be surprised if you see a memo, but messaging so clear and the president and his senior administration officials was so clear. we know it went to steven miller, these are highest levels, they were running the irs, not just division chiefs but people running it were listening to what president said, and calls from senator schumer and hor hor others to investigate the group, they did. they champed down, which is also

against the law. and then they say, this is horrible, the fact they did it, it must be stopped, eric holder said we'll have a criminal investigation, by the way, none of my clients have been contacted by fbi, then carney saying, phony scandals, the evidence points to where this comes from. this is one huge lawsuit, it got bigger. lou: biggest filed against internal revenue service. jay thank you. >> thank you. >> we would like you to go to our social sites check out loudobbs.com, and find links to our facebook page, you can e-mail me or follow me on twitter. check out foxbusiness. com, a look at the black friday deals that will help you save money

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lou: president obama said he is madder, more upset than anyone in this country well the health care. gov train wreck, he did not apologize for his disaster known as obamacare, mr. obama did not give real numbers or specific and the white house permitted no questions. president said he is launching techs surge to fix the web site, he is bringing in the best, and the brightest.

but who is involved? who? he left out a couple details. when will this web site be fixed? is this program anythin going o? press secretary jay carney also refusing to layout a timeline. the publication "consumer reports" boil it down, telling the readers, stay away from the web site for at least a month. we look at fur problem -- further problem with obamacare and the a team. joining us michael goodwin. former special assistance to president president bush ron christie. and way out in texas, former hillary clinton advisory, jay mew green. let me ask you, why won't president obama and his administration talk in specifics about the problems that by their

account millions of americans are encountering with health care. gov? >> i think lou, we heard him actually today talk in specifics, about the problem. and say they were going to be mixe -- fixed. there were a number of attorney general that tried to sob taj the program. lou: jehmu, i have to stop you. you said he talked about specifics, you tell me, what are reasons and problem and delays. why isn't this working? why isn't it working? who are people that have been brought in for the so-called tech surge. ron, your thought? >> this is an unmitigated

disaster. i think that american people heard for the last three and a half years, if you like your insurance you will be able to keep it wait until october 2013, everything will be on board. but they found the system does not work, they spent millions bringing it aboard but, it explains the real competency of this government. lou: the details, why would he not answer who? what they are doing? the american people -- i mean, his approval ratings are down. his -- they are underwater in fact. but american people just a straight shooter. they want machine to talk straight about what is -- they want someone to talk straight about what is going on, everything shovelled around this program, stuff is really flying in the air. >> this is the easy part. this is just the computer, just you know enrolls and applying

and shopping, this has nothing to do with the actual health care. i suspect when people see the prices that more people will be paying, the whole idea, is based on this is a good deal. and president kept emphasizing, that today enough people will find out that is not a good deal, they will not enroll once they have to get through the computer detalk element the president cannot -- detalk elemendebacle.the president canr because they does not know them or they are so terrible he does not want to tell them. lou: share with audience. one is we saw the revenue of cgi, contractor on this, rise by -- excuse me, by 60% over course of the third quarter. the stock price go up 5% 50% year-to-date.

jehmu, should there be legal penalty for that contractor, the company awarded $2 92 billion contract for that health car health care got gov -- is this an example of obama administration inability to govern lead and manage. >> no, absolutely not. lou: i thought you wom would sa. >> if you -- sure, but when go i to costco, i hate the lines, i hate the fact they don't bag my groceries, but i love the prices that i get on my toilet paper and paper towels. lou: you tell americans people shut up, and -- you will be find is that it? are you saying let them eat cake? jehmu, are you saying let them

eat cake. >> no. lou: what are you saying? do you not think this president has a responsibility to run a government and manage it, and american people have a right to expect efficiency and productivity from its government with a 3 year lean time? my gosh. >> the american people are expecting efficiency when it comes to health insurance. and when they get the product they are happy with it they are happy with it. i am going to be happy with it. lou: nobody has it. >> i'm able to afford insurance in new york. without the republican governors in attorney general who want doing -- governor. lou: i think that movie is starting familiar now. let me turn you to. >> this is not just about jehmu going to costco, this is about american government for first time compelling people under penalty of law, to buy a service that does not work. going to chalk talk. lou: they should be thrilled. does it have to work?

the government is giving it to them, but they cannot access it, they cannot enroll or make it work. is this part of what has become obama experience? >> it is, and today in rose garden was evidence of that, a campaign-type speech with props in the background. but no gov inching. erning. >> i have believeed the whole idea is too cam complicated, you cannot takeover all of the healthcare system in america by rearranging all of the pieces this is looks like a titanic, i think a lot of people are going to be worse off after this experience, we have seen people losing policies they have, they are now not to be offered under obamacare, that it has not just reshaped you know the public sim, but reshaped private system

as well, and for most people that will be for the worst. lou: we'll come right back, the a team in just a moment, hang on to your thought. we're going to take up that, and find out how did the obama administration learn in a 16 trillion-dollar economy how much that shut down cost, that is kind of pretty find work ubut we'll take it up with the a team, up next, for shall government shut down it did park government shut down it did park a fundraising war, we'll be at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business.

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lou: well we'll show you a video, right now. roll video. there it is. you see there a man pushing over

a 2000-pound boulder, but also 200 million years old. formed from sandstone. and with his bare hands in out use goblin -- utah go goblin vay state park, that same by, boy scout leader glen taylor filed a lawsuit weeks before suing father of a teen driver responsible for a car crash in 2009 that caused trailer quote, great pain, suffering and disability and loss and joy of line, the crash involved several cars no hospitalling a this video looks like evidence against the fellow in the blue shirt. who was not so disabled hh could push over a -- can you imagine pushing that. 200,00 hit-and-run million year-

200 million years, we appreciate you with us. i want to understand something. why is there you know jehmu talking about people want this to fail. i don't know that anyone wants it to fail, but the administration is incapable of success. explain to us -- why some this administration could not succeed. >> with all due respect to michael, i disagree, there is nothing too complicated for america to tackle. if i am a an an runner. lou: turn down her mic. let me be clear. it is obama administration who

went to canada to find a firm to build a web site for obamacare. it has nothing -- that is straightforward. it is not about. >> why do you hate canada? lou: this is about president obama 's faith. >> why do you hate canada? lou: why do i hate? >> canada. lou: live canada are you kidding me. >> you have states that are building their exchanges. lou: i'm not sure i can say -- >> it works. lou: turn her down. normally we rely on good manners of our guest, jehmu, we bring in sophisticate the technology to bear as well. i love canada, but i'm not the guy who went out and contracted with the company that had already screwed ontario's deal, and now america's deal. >> yep. lou: there has to be some accountability, do you not think someone in obama administration

should take responsibility. >> yes. lou: i'll take that. >> fire whoever you need, it does not mean that obamacare is a bad thing. lou: i said it is a bad web site. and bad management. she is going to talking. >> one thing to add. number of people enrolled. and arrogant of secretary of hhs to say, i'm too busy to go to congress to testify is abhorrent. >> it is a bad law, it will never work. the problem with jobs, it still is a problem. lou: and i'm turning you to for last word. i will turn you to for last word, i would like you to say, just say, i'm jehmu green, saying good night from austin,

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