♪ lou: the white house admits obamacare is a mess and turns to a man with ties to bain, a firm that they vilified endlessly during last year's presidential campaign. i guess there are over it. i am lou dobbs. ♪ good evening, everybody. the failure of the obamacare rollout leading to the move by the white house that suggests a total loss of confidence in health and human services secretary kathleen sibelius. president obama tapped former omb deputy director and former been executive to oversee the

team now charged with fixing health care dot guv. the investment firm was at the center of vicious attacks by the obama campaign against governor mitt romney. they tried to paint him as a greedy lead and added a touch with everyday americans. white house press secretary jay carney today praised his work in the private sector without mentioning the name by name in delivering what sounded a lot like a direct slap at sibelius is ability or inability to manage the obamacare rollout. >> those of you know he is an expert in the field of effective management. tapping his experience and expertise as they address the challenges that have come up with the administration of the website. as you know, jeff has led some of the company's top management firms providing top sector

companies with best practices and management strategy and operations. lou: you can almost hear the obama bus backing over sibelius. carney dodged a question about the white house attempt to sideline her. but he did refer almost every question asked about obamacare to the health and human services department. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry is at the white house tonight with our report. >> at the white house, spokesman jay carney faced a second straight day of tough questions about the healthcare.gov and it suggests no one will be fired of the mishaps because president obama wants the team more focused on getting people health insurance than figuring and who is to blame. >> here are not interested in monday morning quarterbacking. >> the woman accused of fumbling the rollout would not answer fox questions early today. >> do you take any responsibility for the website? >> there are new signs she is at least being sidelined if not danced by the president as a

former ceo and management consultant who has served in various ministries and post and is close to the president is being drawn in to hhs temporarily to oversee the fixing of the website. the move came as the pressure built over "washington post" report revealing just days before the launch the administration tested this site to see if it could handle tens of thousands of customers and it crashed despite a simulation in which just a few hundred tried to log on at the same time, raising new questions about what the president knew about the problems and why the administration pushed for >> i am sure he knew in september that there was no way that this government-run website work. you put that at the end of any website is more expensive and does not work. >> referring the question about whether anyone in the white house was informed of a failed test to hhs and also ducked questions about the mounting cost to fix the website. >> what is your new estimate. >> a couple of things, the budget is something that is housed over an hhs, and i would refer you to them.

>> pressed by a "washington post" reporter, he then referred the post questionnaire but hhs to hhs. >> i would address your question to hhs. i don't have any information. and this is an operation being run by hhs. >> we took his advice and decided to call to try to get some answers to those questions. so far no response. then we noticed on the website their same because of the high-volume of press calls reporters to go to, you guessed it, healthcare.gov, to try to get some answers. retried there, did not get the answers. we have sent an e-mail, fill out form on the web been awaiting. lou: of course there is still the 800 number available to you. great work as usual. critics of the obama administration is design of the health care website blaming politics for many of its problems.

the obama administration's plan to downplay the sticker shock of high premiums in direct conflict with the website designed for the needs of the american health care consumer. fox news chief national correspondent jim angle has our report. >> website contractors wanted to let people shop for insurance before slogging through to the end of the entire website, but they were given different marching orders. >> they were told effectively to bury the price is to prevent sticker shock so that some of the worst part of failing to use best practices occurred for clear political reasons in the 11th hour. >> the administration did not want to scare people away. >> they were afraid there would be sticker shock with this and that with that sticker shock people would immediately leave, so they wanted people to deal to go one, find out what the subsidy was going to be so that aid reduced the sticker shock. >> that created a traffic jam. in addition to reports of sticker shock for those who are young and healthy, widespread

with average increases i and those for young men even higher. >> thirty to 50 percent higher on average, in some cases 100 percent higher. you see a lot of people who would see premiums increase by roughly 100 percent. essentially doubling there premiums. >> families are getting letters telling them that on january 1st all health plans that do not comply with obamacare requirements including the list of ten is essential health benefits such as newborn care will be cancelled. >> there being told at the end of the year they're going to be repriced. in many cases the premium is doubling, sometimes even tripling, and this is coming as a shock to lots of people. >> and everyone in the plan will have to find a new one which congressman iss says violates and obama pledge. >> breaking the president's promise that if you like the carrier you have you could keep it. hell, no. the affordable care act in its very rules are guaranteeing miions of people will be thrown out of the health care they want. >> that in the turmoil at the

website is creating havoc, so much so that some analysts doubt the ministration can reach its estimate for ensuring the uninsured. >> 7 million people enrolled in these changes by march 301st. the pace we're going it would take 50 years to get to the full enrollment projections that are five years out. >> reporter: after all the chaos the administration is so desperate to sign up more people, it will now let them shop as in as a log on, whether that will help enrollment or simply highlight the sticker shock is an open question. lou: thank you. the obama administration says the average monthly premium from a so-called mid tier monthly premium for health insurance is $320. the actual cost varies widely by state and individual needs, of course. pinkston obamacare a family of four in north dakota will see premiums rise by almost 32%, 30 percent in texas, 25 percent

higher in indiana, arkansas, florida. the sticker shock is much higher for 27-year-old adult's in arizona who now face premium increases of more than 171%. it is over 168 percent in georgia, 157 percent in arkansas with vermont and cans is rounding out the top five. talk about sticker shock. new reports of fraud and abuse at the internal revenue service. the irs payment to $1,302,000,000,000 in improperly earned income tax credits over the past decade, including more than $10 billion last year alone. that according to a newly released treasury inspector general report. reducing improper tax credits, but the addresses of the only agency plagued by improper payments. the federal government had $30 billion in improper medicare

payments last year alone. 19 million in medicaid payments and an additional $3 billion in improper social security and food stamp benefits. it is a government that is not working quite the way we would want to. on wall street, stocks finished higher despite a tepid jobs report. the dow gaining 75 points, s&p up ten closing in a new record high, the nasdaq up ten points. employers added only 140,000 jobs last month, but the unemployment rate fell to read just over 7%. apple unveiling its new ipad air along with the new versions of its computers and software. nokia also unveiling its first tablet, and the latest version of microsoft surfaced tablet the stores the data. shares of netflix dropping, that's right, dropping, down more than 9% on concerns that the stock may be overvalued at

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♪ lou: en -- afl-cio chief richard trumka and is talking tough. and by the way, he probably can back up a lot of that tough talk. the union bosch to the boss issuing a new round of threats against any politicians to try to cut social security, medicare, medicaid, and he is

starting union-loving democrats of all people saying, this morning goes double for democrats. we will never forget. we will never forgive, and we will never stop working to end your career. wow. he is a friendly fellow. not saying, however, that they will start voting republican and if he does not say that the first part does not make, well, a very serious, credible threat. my next guest uses a no-nonsense approach and a little tough love . a last chance to succeed. >> for the next five days you work for me. fixing cars is easy. fixing people is tough. you guys are pouring drinks to people who are complaining, serving food that people can eat, and she is sinking because of it. you're a smirk is going to bury you. lou: joining as now, most of spike tv number one show, bar

rescue nine is for the season. author of the new book raise the bar. and it is doing superbly. congratulations on the buck. the resolutions on your success. great to have you here. >> the success of the book. >> it is fantastic to watch, to hear you, as i say what you are saying. it is clear you love this business and that the entrepreneurs that come together to make ed gray service business. how did you get started doing it? >> i went to college into a political science glasses of all things. [laughter] i am glad that did not go to that position to tell you the truth. one thing led to another. and, you know, it is small business. we employ more single moms that almost any other industry.

we plan -- provide flexibility. people can market night, the daytime, good income, and it is an important industry. people forget the second public building ever built in america was a bark. lou: the second. >> yes, first being the church. they were called public houses back then. there were no hotel rooms, city halls. that is why governments were formed. lou: i'm wondering if it is a commentary and society that we have more bars the church is now . it goes to a host of issues that we will not get into. [laughter] lou: one of the things that surprised me was the idea of making art patrons -- and i am one of those guys, the business for bars, restaurants, turnover. you have to move the customer. and you say it so plainly, so clearly. make them feel invited and war and welcome. >> there is no such thing as a single transaction. what you coming back again and

again, five, six times a month. every visit is an installment payments on an annual amount is the way i look at it. i want to build a relationship, not create transaction. i want to create a reaction from another transaction. lou: a service business if ever there were one and the difficulty is getting good people to serve tables, tend bar , i mean, that has got to be tough. you even go on to say don't pay a lot of attention to someone previous employment. help me out there. >> all about personality. you give me someone who has never run a bar with the perfect personality and in three weeks and will show you a great manager. you give me someone with the wrong personality in the ten pages man i will show you mediocrity every time. you have to create relationships to motivate people, except people. real leaders, and it takes a certain personality to do that.

lou: a certain personality and perseverance. you have to have all of that plus, how would you say, a cast-iron stomachs and spines of steel the top rate in this environment. >> no question. theegulation is coming down on us as we speak. making it that much tougher. they're not going to hire full-time employees. everyone will be part time now. lou: u.s. seen that already reflected in the monthly employment reports. certainly we do have them. and it is operating to think that we are going to have to manage people that way. we're going to have to have people who are going to have no choice but to work part-time. >> in my industry it affects single moms, people of middle-age, youngbear and middle-aged. lou: he said middle-aged. >> it does. hard working americans and it really impacts and pushes them down on hard times fast, and it hurts. lou: it does hurt. i am one of those guys, i was

raised to respect work no matter what the job, how much it paid, a man and woman working deserve everyone's respect. and to see government policy that in the guise -- and i believe this deeply in my heart to -- in the guise of being a social welfare program, obamacare, it is destroying lives in the ninth opportunity to millions of people. >> i see every day out there. i see it in smaller places, larger places. it is impacting. a seed in their faces. i see the reduction in hours. as see the looks on their faces when they look at their work schedule and see they have been cut back eight hours. israel, and it is impacting people day-to-day. lou: 20 million people still under employed and unemployed in this country. we are having discussions over other things. great to have you year.

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♪ lou: troubling news of japan. highly radioactive water from japan's fukushima nuclear power plant is spilling over storage tank barriers after heavy rains left that plant unable to pump it out fast enough. that site stores more than 90 million gallons of radioactive water. officials estimate 400 tons of toxic water flows into the pacific ocean each and every day japanese officials also extending the deadline to clean up towns near the plan by three

years. it will not be cleaned up until, at the earliest, 2017. to syria. the opposition forces of assad resisting calls to commit to a peace talks unless assad is forced from power. assad netting just yesterday that he sees no objections to running in the next syrian election. those talks are expected to be held late next month, but are very much in question at this hour. our next guest once called obamacare the most dangerous piece of legislation ever passed by congress. he is introducing legislation to stop the collection of personal data on the health care website. he says kathleen sibila is should resign, and he was the first congressman to call for her firing or resignation. joining is now, congressman john flemming, a member of the armed services committee, natural resources committee, a physician

who serves as vice chairman of the gop doctors caucus. great to have you with this, congressman. let's turn first to your legislation. i mean, if you pull personal data from the obamacare digital servers, they are done. >> the attempt of the legislation is to protect americans not to destroy the portal site for obamacare, but if you go on there and when you begin to enter your affirmation it says to you under terms and conditions the u.s. government can share all of your animation with whoever we choose. and, you know, mr. mcafee, an expert in this area who came up with the mcafee security software says that this is a hacker's dream. this is a fraudulent jane -- danger were people connect these websites to my your social security number, personal

information. what this says is until the secretary of hhs comes up with a secure website portal that americans should not be required to impart their vital personal information. lou: it is we're sitting here talking about this. of all of the conflict in the political drama that the nation has witnessed in the nation's capital, this website is a disaster. it seems to be fairly clear to most folks that this is worse than anything anyone imagined. the president seems to have no choice now but to start bringing in people, as he is doing, to try to fix it. what is your judgment? first, what is the converse is you? the house oversight committee. my gosh. what are you guys thinking about here when you look at three years of run-up time to this launch, and this is what they produce? >> well, the house republicans

are shaking our heads. three and a half years, almost four years now since this law was passed. someone somewhere upwards of over $600 million spent, and this is what we did, something the secretary told us would be, perhaps, an enjoyable experience for customers. no, it has failed. look, we should have expected this. in fact, that is the reason why we wanted to delay implementation. the reason why is, you have the department of hhs, the department of the u.s. government taking over one sixth of the largest economy in the world, and not as single person in that process has ever run a business. cd-i that was put in charge of this, this is not really there wheel house. this should not be a surprise. if this is happening now with this software and this internet portal, what is going to happen when we get into the actual functionality of this law? it is going to be even worse and

more dangerous. lou: we don't have, obviously, complete white house lazar for 2013. cabinet members are far less likely to be entered into the white house logs, but we have only four white house visitor entries for secretary sibelius. douglas schuman when he was running the irs, and that worked so well for everybody. he racked up 157 visits. but for visits for something this important, a program that is supposedly the signature for this administration is rolling out, and a half for talks in person? >> well, a federal bureaucracy has no clue as to what it has no clue about. what i am saying is a federal bureaucracy has no knowledge or understanding of how to operate a business. so the president goes out to make his speech, signs it into law and just thinks that

everything will happen magically. everyone will do what they are supposed to do when, in fact, it is left to the most incompetent people. and so now we have a situation where secretary sibelius is creating a tech surge. remember, president obama was against a surge. he thought that was a bad idea, but that is precisely the model that he is using to try to revive. rewriting 5 million new lines of software and he is going to have to bring in experts from around the world to do what should of been done to begin with. lou: one thing that does appear, congressman, it looks like you republicans are going to get your way. i can right now not imagine how in the world there would not have to delay the individual mandates. probably to get some equity to the consumer out there. probably one year's delay would be just about right, which is what you all were asking for all

along. congressman, we appreciate you being here. we will have much more on the mess that is obamacare and more scandalous irs behavior. we will take that up with the "a-team" coming up next. stay with us. the kennedy assassination, ufos, area 51, d. b. cooper, a confederate gold, some of america's greatest conspiracy theories, all chronicled by best-selling author, tv host brad meltzer, his new book, mystery decoded. mystery decoded. he is next. [ male announcer ] the founder of mercedes-benz once wrote something on a sheet of paper and placed it in his factory for all to see. ♪ four simple words where the meaning has never been lost. the challenge always accepted.

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history. and what a great book. >> i appreciate it. always good to see you. we wanted to not just countdown that top-10 conspiracies but sure people. so when you open up the book you actually open up and out comes the evidence. so the lincoln assassination. here is a real letter that john wilkes booth's left behind after he shot a ramekin. the ufo chapter in you will see the form the government wants you to fill out when you see a ufo. which one do you have there? >> the stock about that one. lou: americas stonehenge. there is a map. >> so right now years ago i guy builds this amazing middle finger of looks like an american stonehenge. the thing that is so amazing about it is that where it is located they think is a safe zone.

when the big earthquake happens in california and florida fall into the ocean, georgia in this spot will be what is safe. i love the fact that this mystery is out there. is that there not today. lou: 1980. >> and arce christian said one thing, no one can ever know my real identity. and it's a code for rosicrucian. rosicrucian is a secret, agency chris society. lou: i love what you said about it. >> but we look at this. th is from 1865 with abraham lincoln. this is today in georgia and no one knows why. lou: this pier of destiny. >> one of my favorite ones, charlie. i was going to say, pull your cards out. this one is the spirit that

pierce is christ's side while he is on the cross. now, the spear supposedly has powers. napoleon took power because he chase this beer. the other person in chase this pier was a of fiddler. i don't believe in the magic power part, but you tell me that adolf hitler once this object and i want to know what it is. you have there is the map below the vatican. the vatican says they have the real spirit which shows you. yes. the basilica under st. peter's. lou: this is a nasty piece of business right here. i'm not even going to read. >> it is a nazi secret society, and that is there of that they used to take command you to really -- read the real love. again, one of my favorite stories. lou: john f. kennedy, his assassination. this is -- i mean, this is fascinating. i know you have dealt with this in a number of ways in your

riding, but also on your television show. >> and what i love about this one, we put in here is we put in jfk is death certificate. but you're all right there is the telex that the state department sent when they were tracking lee harvey oswald and russia. you to read the history and say, wait a minute, this is actually what they knew about him when he was over in russia. lou: this is one that will have conspiracy theories really wagging away. lee h. possible, a committee, an organization that would be fair play for cuba. he was. his card, signed. i love giving my father-in-law and nice tires something. but it is really nice and i can give them for christmas jfk death certificate. legatee's.

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lou: the house oversight committee asked for all white house technical documents on the obamacare train wreck including records of meetings wh outside contractors such as cd-i, the

canadian company behind health care -- healthcare.gov. i cannot imagine putting that up on their corporate advertising, but we will see. just exactly who is see gi group? $950 in federal contracts last year. that 29 largest contractor. big contracts now with the apartment of homeland security, the permit of defense perry never set. it beat out four other companies biing for the health care -- healthcare.gov contracts, but the federal government must be very forgiving. these are people with good hearts because tci has some well documented failures. the contract was terminated in 2007 while building a federal gun registry -- no, not in this country, but in canada. we don't know if that influenced the obama administration's selection, but it was terminated because of cost overruns and delays, starting to sound a

little familiar. and the problems, ontario fired cge i just last year because they fail to build online medical registry's on time, registries, healthcare.gov, some overlap there, some similarities , like, analog if you will, architecture. c. gi did have success building a site to handle stimulus contracts for the epa, but may be cgi was selected for another reason, president obama praise the company for job creation in virginia during his presidential campaign in 2008. but for more on the obamacare train wreck and joined by the "a-team", the executi editor of the weekly standard and fox news contributor fred barnes. delighted to see you in new york . normally in washington d.c., of course. fox is legal analyst. good to see you, way over there.

radio talk-show host fox news to check reader monica crowley. how would this -- how could this administration simply have chosen this company which is not have a stellar track record. >> it is amazing. we're checking about halliburton the contract that went to halliburton to deal with the situation. fred had a great point. look, the argument could have been made that halliburton was big enough and strong enough and that the international contact that there were the only company it could have done this. in this situation there are a gazillion american and international companies that build websites and handle exactly this. the idea that they went with tci -- cgi after all the failures. this is what the government does. it fails. the problem is the consequence for the american taxpayer is huge. >> when you put it on the board like that it is start because it is exactly that, failure after failure.

if they took enough time just to do what you have done here in three minutes, why would they have ever hired cgi? does not make any sense. lou: what do you think? >> this was supposed to be the easy part. signing of people. everyone was going to sign up, particularly young people. and they cannot. you know, people are not going tech keep calling 25 access to cut 25 hours per day. five assists -- lou: accounts of people taking four and a half hours trying to do something and successfully on a site for their accounts that the enrollee, some of them investing days to find themselves as enrollees. also, the obama administration turned to a former executive, and that of irony in politics. chosen to fix the obamacare web sites, but what about obama's

chief technology officer, former health care ecutive taught parks. i mean, talk about radio silence, undisclosed locations. the white house will not clarify his role and his boss rollout. maybe the president can tell you are you ready for this? three members of the president's jobs council ran major technology companies. we are talking about intel. we are talking about facebook. we are talking in major players here, and he did not turn to them. >> if you want another bit of irony, in 2008 and again in 2012, what the obama campaign, the political arm, the political tumult, was so noteworthy for creating technology. there were using twitter and no aid when john mccain was campaigning with smoke signals. it is not that much of an exaggeration. this is a team for him technology was at their

fingertips. they have had a sucker byrd at the white house. they know this. the idea that they have had three years to do this and cannot. >> and the rest of the are hiding under the table. >> this is just a job too big for government. the government just cannot handle this. lou: that much agreed. i am an independent, not a republican or democrat. thought of this administration does not have a success to which it can point. domestic policy and say this is what we have achieved. it is just not there. >> and part of the reason is there is an entire reliance on government. the president tried to have an economic recovery by relying entirely on government and not the private sector. the talks about how he does it. the president's job council, he has not met with it for a year or more. finally the whole thing was

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♪ lou: we are back with the "a-team," and monica, just talking about the internal revenue service, $132 billion in inappropriate payments.

132 billion over a decade. is there any sense of responsibility in the management of any department in washington d.c.? >> it is hard to decide. a mix is critical is we're dealing with the irs. the same agency that is starting conservatives anti party groups id silence opposition to anything that president obama does and is also the agency that is tasked with enforcing obamacare. who gets tax credits and so on. this will be that agency. >> and they're changing their rules. this is the federal court today. i am not selling obamacare. am letting you go. lou: no injunction. >> but the reason being the internal revenue service change the rules, the regulations to say even if you are in this state the young is state obamacare and the feds have to do it -- your head explodes if

he let go of thi stuff. the languages office only if you're covered by this. lou: and what is new is the proper expression. this goes back to reset the onset. the government out of control. it is a new condition for government. two large, poorly managed for a very long time. it the management of the vast enterprise is -- >> these payments by the irs under the program is one with of raid attention. we will get people to work.

it tells you one thing, government does not do a good job of correcting his problems. >> that is a great point. today, lou, the irs actually said, we made all of these problems. all of these mistakes, but we're not going to fix it. they came right at today and said. we're really not going to fix it. lou: the issue of accountability here is critically important. it has been suspended under this administration. there is no accountability within the administration. there appears to be no accountability, but within the government itself, whether it be the, the internal revenue service, here last night talking about the expanded lawsuit against the internal revenue service for conservative targeting. they have not even talked yet to a single one of his clients.

but is going on here? how can there be a sense of accountability, for good sense, accountability achieved for the american citizen? >> when you have an agency like that, the irs, it is not audible, it is not controlled, unaccountable, accountable to nobody, i turn the question right back to you. and notice retort to -- rhetorical. where can you go? mccourts, disembowel this agency. you can't really do that. >> look, and a lot of -- lou: if there is no recourse in the survey of the american people a month ago, which 88 percent responded that they did not believe that they had any influence over government whatsoever is not an incorrect judgment, is it? >> not at all. we are supposed to have congressional oversight. unfortunately when congress does it the media says, that is just republicans pressing some political issue when that is not it. >> and when you have cases like this, scandals, the irs, you

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