decisions, is there are issue. neil: they can never let go. like way. mooney with melissa francis is next. melissa: i'm melissa francis and here's what is "money" tonight. when would you pull the plug on a big costly project? have we learned anything from the online health care exchange debacle? sometimes you have to just say stop and forget the time and money spent. this is a disaster. we'll tell you how to know when it is worth it and when to just wait. plus martha stewart make as deal with jcpenney and macy's and avoids the judge's ruling but has her brand paid too big of a price? it is all the word on wall street. we have background story. "who made money today"? they are cashing in and saving soldier's lives while they're at it. not sure who it is? even when they say it is not, it

is always about money. >> healthcare.gov is plagued by glitches. >> glitches. >> glitches,. >> glitches,. >> snafu. >> the bugs kinks, whatever you want to call this. >> glitches. [laughing] >> yes apparently the healthcare.gov website has 99 problems but a glitch is all of them. [laughter] melissa: jon stewart, not pulling any punches but he is calling it like it is and the bottom line is, healthcare.gov just wasn't ready for prime time. it is a big business lesson for everyone. no matter how much time or money is spent on a product it is essential to know when you have to just pull the plug on your launch. face it, time is money. with me, my favorite marketing guru, bruce terkel and business owner bart larang. bruce, let me start with you. we're looking at perspective to

going back and rehashing, harvard business school case study. this is a classic product launch. it is not ready to go to sayo the least. what advice would you give a ceo in the situation? >> the advice you give to the ceo before the situation. someone has to say to the big guy, this is not going to work. we better figure out something else. you do not let the product go to market. once it happened, i think they're pretty much doing the right thing. top guy came out. said no one can be angrier than i am. you can believe that. he is no drama obama. he is annoyed this is his signature item and they really blew it. melissa: bart what do you think happened behind the senes as a ceo? do you think they knew it would be disaster and they didn't tell him? they sort of hid hit from him, like they were worried? boy you don't tell the boss. we really fumbled it. you think they told him and it was one of those, let's role with it? what is your bet?

>> i bet something got lost in the chain of command. this is classic software death march i observed downless times in my career. there is shift date and classic saying you can have schedule, you can have features or you can have quality. you can pick two of those things but you can't have all three. in this case they should slip on schedule to get foot he features and quality in. melissa: what did you call it? software death march? >> ship date. you know you won't hit it with any sort of quality you keep going anyways. melissa: bruce, from a marketing standpoint, what is worse? it is kind of like an apple launch in a sense all eyes were on it. is it worth to say we're not ready for prime time and let the enemies pile on that, and say it is not ready? or is it worse to have it launch and have the site be a disaster. >> first of all it is not like an apple launch. if it was it would have been successful. it would be called i-obamacare

instead of obamacare. that being much bettory abandon ship. melissa: really? >> of course. that doesn't give haters anything to say, well, except there you go. there they go again. which we're used to and we don't care. but you don't have a bad consumer experience. the problem now is people had a bad consumer experience. you got to know the folks went on it early were people who are desperate. they are the people who care the most. of course the statement was, we're going to make this for the young, invincible tech-savvy consumer. so now the answer is call an 800 number? they're not having that. kids will not get on and listen to bad muzak waiting for bad insurance. someone should have pulled the plug. someone in the chain of command didn't let the top brass what was going on. this never would have come out if they knew it would go blooey. melissa: they are doing the right thing, with president or

ceo in our analogy, we know there's a huge problem with this we know that. we get it. going a long way to differentiate. the website is terrible. that doesn't mean the product isn't great. but trying to make that point. but at the same time they're running ads like this that seem to go against what the president is saying. let's listen. get you both to react. >> i couldn't wait for the health insurance marketplace to open. i knew my husband and i were going to save money. we've been spending a fortune on health insurance each month. the site was very easy to use and customer service representatives were patient and helpful. melissa: bruce, that is just a lie. i mean that is coming out of the exact same time the president is addressing an audience saying website is terrible and he is embarrassed about it. that ad is lie. in your playbook, good or bad? >> terrible. not even bad. terrible. you're not watching a silicon valley company do a rollout who knows how to do it. you're watching government to do

it. that is not business, business is the key word, that is not the business they're in. those ads should not be run. someone should run around the white house like robot from lost in space, danger, danger. they have to be pulled. i can't believe those are running. in a private organization heads will roll. people will go okay,his is government. this is what we expected. the fact that the right hand is not talking to the left hand, this is not organized like a surgical strike, that is both bad and frightening. melissa: bart, i want to ask you, this is your expertise. this is what you do. the number one thing they have to do is fix the website. how hard is that at this point given problems we've seen? how big is the problem if. >> it is a huge problem. i think they should shut the website down. they should roll it out, sort of in small iterative chunks. iterative development and short, sprints of working code, are what is sort of in vogue now in software development. get a small thing working.

roll it out in rhode island and keep entering state by state. melissa: thanks to both of you. appreciate your time. >> thank you. melissa: so as frustrations over obamacare's rollout continue to mount more mainstream media outlets are takeing a turn. watchhis. >> who misled the president on this? are you telling me five days before that somebody let the president go out to the american public to give this speech and say this, and make this promise, in fact the next line is, i promise you, this is a lot easier. it is like booking a hotel or a plane ticket? who let him down? melissa: clearly there is no good way to answer that question, right? joining me now, howard kurtz, fox news analyst and host of "media buzz" on the fox news channel. that is sort of like the question, when did you stop beating your wife? there is no answer to that question that isn't incriminating. i was surprised to see chuck todd, work for a liberal media outlet ask that question. what does that tell you?

>> chuck todd is not a liberal commentator. melissa: well -- >> liberal commentators are piling on debacle of obamacare. it wasn't just chuck todd. it was major garrett. the white house has been not giving answers. you talked earlier in the segment about the problem with this website. "washington post" posted a front page story, this site crashed in a test, test drive so to speak a few days before the rollout. melissa: yes. now the mainstream media is piling on. what does it mean for the story going forward? what does it mean about how they spin it an try to turn it around? because generally they can count on a nicer treatment, from at love these outlets that have turned on them. for example, a "new york times" op-ed, obamacare failing ahead of schedule. everyone turned on them in this project. what does it mean? >> in terms of liberal pundits there is great sense of disappointment, maybe even bitterness. they like obamacare.

they wanted it to work. they recognize what nobody can deny at this point this has been debacle. i don't use the g word anymore. these are not glitches. mainstream media of 16 days largely beating up on republicans over the shutdown they are ripe for new story. this is such a systems failure and so many unanswered questions by the administration. that gets journalists juices flowing, you're not getting what did the president know, when did know it, how did you go to market with this? this is causeing a lot of critical reporting on management side even this morning on msnbc, there were people who were saying likening the obamacare fiasco to either katrina or iraq. those comparisons not very helpful to the administration. melissa: no absolutely not. you said very important thing in the beginning of your answer the media was hungry for a new story. is this just a cycle? or end when the next thing comes

around and declare victory the site is working great now? >> i never want to underestimate the ability from the media to suffer from add the next thing could always come around. unless problems are dramatically improved in matter of couple weeks, obamacare all its problems, it is after you will the president's signature domestic initiative and affects potentially millions and millions of americans will remain a top story. there is negative narrative in the media. it will take more than just spin to change that. melissa: howard, a hugean. i watch your show every weekend. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, melissa. melissa: next on "money," days before a judge's ruling, martha stewart make as deal with macy's and jcpenney but what is her brand even worth anymore? that is the real question. it is also the word on wall street today. we'll get the inside scoop. the smallest economic pickup, smallest thing, is being blamed on a the government shutdown. is there any truth to the excuses? we have two favorite money gurus to cut through all the money

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melissa: nasty disagreement between martha stewart, macy's and jcpenney may finally be over

but at what cost to martha stewart's brand? penney's severely limited its partnership with the domestic diva. leaving store to make nice with a macy's team that recently sued her. that will not be easy. with stock of stewart's company at multiyear lows. the word is whether or not this dispute has done irreppable damage to her business. here is the inside scoop, "wall street journal" spencer jay cub. we had her on the show recently of i was looking where she could buy her products. what is she up to lately? there is nothing out there. feels like from consumer perspective and gossip perspective it has done damage to her brand. what do you think? >> she has certain segment of shoppers, maybe not places you shop but there are people who she is influential. if you look share price of her company or profits of her

company or lack thereof several quarters in a row. she is not doing that well. she has not cut good business deals. this is particularly bad one. not as bad for her as it is for jcpenney. melissa: without question, jcpenney can not blame all their problems on her. now she is left to pick, there is lot of damage to go around. left to pick up pieces with ceo of macy's terry lundgren. who talks about abruptly hanging up on her and after she called and told him about the jcpenney deal. basically she was in partner with macy's doing something. cut a side deal to do something else with jcpenney. she claims the stuff didn't overlap. macy's felt like it was a bitter i will pill. was it a money grab on her part? did it end up costing her a lot? >> seems like it. jcpenney, parting gift from ron's johnson. melissa: good appointee signed the deal worth $200 million. he bought stock in her company which jcpenney just gave back.

so, that's good for her company. damage is still may be coming but, whether or not it will going to be her company or her personally or jcpenney that pay them or whether there will be damages it is not clear. melissa: yeah. >> but it was, it didn't work out at all for jcpenney, at all. sales of home wears and everything else fell off a cliff. home wears did a lot worse if that is possible than the other stuff. she didn't really do much to stimulate demand. the idea was for her, and they never did this, a store within a store. that was the legal loophole they were using to say, well it was a self-standing store and exclusive agreement didn't cover that. i mean, maybe their understanding of exclusive isn't the same as mine or others. >> yeah. >> the judge didn't interpret it that way. melissa: we had her on the show recently. i talked to her about the fact she burned through a lot of different ceos. some people say the reason for that the inspiration of the brand who is pretty controlling personality breathing over your soldier all the time very hard to be ceo of the company.

she said that is not it at all. it is about the fact we have a lawsuit hanging over us and the fact we haven't been able to hire a ceo. what do you think is the truth there? is it time for her to pass the mantle? she is 72 years old. she had a long time running brand. the company share price is stalled. they don't have ceo. in the middle of these fights. people like jessica alba, gwyneth paltrow, all names thrown out there as new style guru. is it time to pass the baton? >> that is real problem, she came in when they listed mso originally. stock did very well. she had her other legal troubles. >> right. >> criminal troubles and the stock did poorly. actually surged though after she was incarcerated because it was, you know, it sold off too much. but having, whether or not that had happened and, irrespective of her age, having a company, having a brand wrapped up in one person is very, very difficult.

not jugs for her but michael kors and other brand like that where you're wrapped up with one designer, 1% malt and you're buying a stock, a stock should have a very, very long earnings stream and it is really tied to a person who is mortal, who will get old and who will make mistakes and do things. unfortunately -- melissa: is it over or not over for her and brand? >> i don't think it is over. she is still influential but not where she was several years ago when they did the ipo, that's for sure. melissa: spencer jay cab, thank you very much. coming up on "money," how light is your wallet because of the government shutdown? not much lighter at all? certainly doesn't seem to have the nuclear effect we were warned about. so we'll tell you what really happened. plus you work with them every day. you sit next to them for hours. and you think they're the most annoying people you have ever met. yes, i am talking about your coworkers! you have to stick around for today's money talker. how to handle the people that

you just can't stand. do you ever have too much money?

melissa: so to hear some leaders in washington till it the government shutdown would send us hurdling into an economic disaster. doomsday chorus ahead of next month's jobs number is already growing even louder. the white house estimates that 120,000 jobs were lost as a direct result of the shutdown. we have a couple guys taking issue with that number. they will help us fact check it. joining me now, keep going, are "money" favorites jonathan hoenig, a fox news contributor and professor charles lip son. gentlemen, thanks for joining us. i have to start with that 120,000 number. i heard it out of the

white house today. are they counting thousands of federal workers filing for unemployment who weren't getting paid but got their back pay anyway? so, you know they will count as unemployed but they collected benefits but really they got their -- how do you get to 120,000? professor, i will let you go first? >> i think this is the cry and sigh syndrome. they're now tamping expectations way down. so if anything comes in look that even halfway decent, they will say, boy, this was a triumph of our good working knowledge of the economy. in fact, this month's numbers, and i expect next mon's numbers are will under when what we need to really decrease unemployment. we've now set a record for number of months above 7%. melissa: i don't expect how you get to 120,000 people were fired in just that little multi-week period. those people were not, how do you even come up with that number?

>> melissa, come up with it from the same place you talk about jobs being saved as opposed jobs being created. it is a fantasy. really meant for cameras more than anything else. >> exactly. >> at one point leaders in d.c. were calling it economic shutdown, not a government shutdown to emphasize that point, somehow this was killing thousands and thousands of jobs. certainly not the case. think back to 1995, 1996. that government shutdown, unemployment was 5.4%. unemployment above 7% has nothing to do with the government shutdown. it has to do with government policies. obama administration is directly to blame for that. melissa: they keep throwing around $24 billion number. s&p gave them a stamp of approval on that one. it is hard to figure out where that$4 billion could possibly come from. story of a guy with a diner in d.c., people didn't come in because they weren't at work in washington. i guess so.

all those people didn't starve to death. they ate somewhere else. they bought food somewhere else as opposed to buying it at the diner, right, professor lipson? only legitimate is charters at everglades national park where people didn't go because the park was closed. i don't think the people sat at home doing nothing. they did something. was a lot of this replaceed? give me the logic, professor lipson. >> the logic is not the direct loss of jobs to me. the logic is, the small number of loss of jobs is overwhelmed by the amount of uncertainty introduced in the economy generally by, by both the obama administration's policies and the stalemate between the republicans and the democrats on capitol hill. it is uncertain, regulations, and, transfer payments which are essentially redistribution. i call it a rut. redistribution, uncertainty, transfers. melissa: jonathan, i'm already

breaking out world's tiniest vie lip for the companies that will now come out and sing their woes of their damages. campbell's soup say they have seen customers pull back because of the impasse in washington. so apparently, cream of tomato soup, no, you can not possibly have that during the shutdown because you --, stanley, black & decker. saying their full-year profit, go ahead. >> melissa, might not be the shutdown to charles's point no question it is uncertainty. i think that is why we continue to have this 7% unemployment not because government shut down but employers hesitant to make investment. because of obamacare. that is why people are not willing to take the risk. that exacerbates that fear. melissa: okay we -- >> if it is too risky to eat cream of chicken soup our economy is really in the tank.

melissa: that's right. government shutdown, no soup for you! thanks for joining us gentlemen. see you next time. up next on "money," can you name the six most annoying kind of coworkers in your office? trust me. you never heard it broken down the way we've bottom this "money" talker. we've got a solution. plus tablet tuesday. three of the most anticipating new tech gadgets are out. we have one of the preeminent experts here to give us his take. "piles of money" and tablets coming up.

♪ >> a, guys. >> what's up, see? >> want to go to it trotsky's and get some coffee? >> it's early. >> i have to get out of here. it began going to lose it. >> it looks like somebody has a case of the monday's. [laughter] melissa: how could they not of just puncher. unfortunately we all have

annoying co-workers. there is always that one guy who shouts across the entire office. the woman who'd despite a high fever and wet, never misses a day at the office. don't you just love that? today we are taking them all on the most annoying office mates in how to handle them. we have corporate codes and communications experts. thank goodness. my very own co-workers, dennis kneale and jo ling kent. two is our most annoying co-worker? >> i've been trying not to be offended to the fact that you but me for this segment. melissa: you're paranoid. come on. >> i picked it the person who is hacking and coughing and coming in so sick. there being so brave and really it's just that they hate their spouse. >> and they want to look like a hero, so they're walking around, oh, i am dying.

ito that person, you are so valuable to us, we really need you to get home and get better so that you can come back and be here in full force. i like the solution if they beat what do you think? was the most annoying? de and everyone down on your. >> they covered their basis. it is an environment, the loud talker is tough because sometimes you don't want to work through an historic -- an assignment. no one ever wants to know. melissa: are you a loud talkers? >> as i read the list i started to wonder, i think i fit several of those descriptions. [laughter] melissa: of course not, dennis. of course not. the loud talkers one. i showed this to some many people. don't talk about me. everyone else. allowed talker. that was the thing that most people said was irritating.

politely bring it to their attention. so the pipe down. that doesn't work you may be talk to a manager. then you coordinate with everyone else in your area. everyone talked to that person really loud. >> you should speak lower. >> now you bring up an interesting thing because i think of talkers are far more irritating. low talkers, what you have to say is so important. what. what? >> you emulate what you want. melissa: that is the solution. this whispered, like with children. you're demonstrating within how to behave. >> you cannot change their natural inclination to be allowed talker. you can demonstrate. melissa: you just made that. i think my work. but do you think is the most annoying? >> the gossiping is a huge problem. >> it is. >> and it is toxic. melissa: it is.

this was an -- in my mind, i think it is kind of like the fine gossip which is not necessarily that-or hurtful or maybe about the other team across the river. then there is that-gossip. someone who's sort of maybe not so happy with their own situation. melissa: just because comedy requires cruelty, gossip pass to have a mean element. you don't say, so and so, when to the great restaurant and had a wonderful dinner. >> when you gossip it is negative in nature. >> can i just point out -- melissa: i just got shot down. but there are quite a few annoying co-worker casts that are not included. most offensive. you have nitpickers. come up with a huge region. well, i don't really think. second-guess is. you know, come to the only after i have done something. you think that was the right way to go, why did you say something before?

lastly, time suckers. they want to have a meeting. talk and talk and talk. nothing is decided and nothing ever happens. melissa: any solutions? >> overall i believe in a stabbing in the chest rather than standing in the back. and you say, hey, you are taking me off. why do you have to be such a time suck? melissa: there were some other really good ones. the person who said, right away. that person in particular, yes, i did get your e-mail and that will get to it as soon as i possibly can. another one, the person who just popped into your personal space all the time.

let them know that you are busy. >> set your own boundaries and it really is about setting them for yourself and the feeling you will feel guilty. melissa: said phones. the cubicle. what do you think? >> that makes it worse. i do think it is of little bit of a violation to cross that boundary into the cubicle area. i don't know. in office. i'm not sure. melissa: embarrass me. >> just kidding. melissa: the e-mail. you know, those people who are kind of like mild-mannered, but then then they get on the e-mail they are either, you know, really long winded or there kind of mean. they say aggressive things in an e-mail. face-to-face there would never have the courage. to you say to someone, you know, would you have really said this to me? i'm not sure the tone is what you meant.

>> absolutely. technology tough guys. you put them face-to-face with the person that they are having an issue with. they change their entire demeanor. i say not confront them on it, but have a conversation. less talk about the issue that you brought up. >> long e-mails are far worse. >> because at least you're standing in the front when you are being reared. [laughter] six paragraphs. six or eight paragraphs e-mail. >> i really do, but on the technology front, my least favorite is the representative and legal types, the people they don't adapt.

the author of inside apple this year to take us through today's tablets. what is with your "money"?

♪ melissa: from the u.s. to every corner of the globe money has been flying around the world today. first thought, taiwan. a judge says yahoo must switch to microsoft being search service in that country by october 28 and cannot delay the transition until next year. yahoo told microsoft last month that it plans to delay making the change because of concerns over microsoft's commitment to being after ceo steve ballmer announced he is stepping down. the agreement has initially been put in place. back in 2009. except for yahoo and microsoft

it better compete speed now over to the czech republic where amazon will be opening new distribution centers next year. the company says the centers will each have floor sizes equal to a 13 soccer fields, 13 soccer fields. together they will create 2,000 permanent jobs landing in india. general motors executives may be charged with corporate fraud. that is according to a government appointed panel in the country investigating gm recall of the chevrolet to there and reported that 12 top company officials were involved in fraud the panel recommended a penalty, an action ensuring that similar incidents won't happen in the future. we will seek. it is tablet tuesday, and today was the release of three techies . unveiled in other dhabi, and microsoft new surface to. apple has been a leader of the pack, but the competition can be

quickly catching up. after all, it is major money. with me now, tech guru add emotion ski who wrote in sight apple and is a fox business contributor. what did you think? what did you think about the big apple unveiled. impressed, not impressed? >> well, i will raise out and get the brand new ipad. i will tell you specifically why because i left my ban on an airplane a couple of weeks ago. melissa: of course you did. everyone does that. >> i was heartsick for a moment, but the good news is, it is just that thing. i did not lose any of the content. that is the duty of the world we live in. i got to go out and buy myself a new one, and it looks extremely nice. it is like. it will be wicked fast, and it will have all of the same stuff on it that i am on my last one. melissa: did you call the airline? a return those things. my husband got one return from a taxicab and boston. i digress. >> i am happy with your digression.

i have asked united airlines a million times if they can help me find it. maybe you can. melissa: maybe we will get on that after the show. why did these tablets of cannot on the same day? >> well, apple's data has been known, and i can only assume that microsoft / nokia wanted to be out the same date. try to steal some of their thunder. melissa: i think you just look like sort of a tablet light weight / loser when you try and come out and pile on apple which is the big gorilla in this space. to me it seems like a bad tax strategy. is there an argument you can make? >> sure. i mean, look, everyone compared to apple in the tabloids here no matter who you are. and so, i mean, mostly i agree with you. at the different they would have been better, but if you contrast in the big guys wait and that might give you some attention that you would not have done otherwise. melissa: we're talking about it.

i wonder if they are dominating right now, but you do have to ask, will they continue to dominate? looking at the iphone which was tremendous in its space. now you look at samsung which is delivering more than twice the number of units of the same smart phone. look at those numbers with apple pudding of 31 million, samsung's 72. right now samsung is only giving aid million tablets while apple does 14 million. i wonder, you know, can samsung's come up and sneak up on them the way that they did with the smart phone? >> i think there is no reason to assume that there won't. so if you look at it from the perspective of an apple, they practically on this market by themselves right now and have for the past three years. they have made gobs and gobs of money. that is a financial expression. they will continue to even when the others. make sure it has the next thing that the others of not thought

of yet. melissa: what is so fantastic about this iteration of that will make us put yet another one on the shelf and go out and buy it? i am afraid you will tell me something that is so fantastic. what is it that is so cool and great. >> it really isn't. if you have a third or fourth generation that you like to you feel is moving quickly you're not going to have to run out and get the new one unless you're one of these people who has to have the latest thing that apple offers, but it is lighter and faster and sharper. melissa: they always keep complaining lenny the next thing, the next thing.

is this it? >> the short answer is, no, it is not enough. they fell so far that it is good enough for now, but the next leg up pass to be something completely new. melissa: you are terrific. thank you. we will help you. i hope you're watching. up next on "money," cannot stop testing, even at the movies? one company is considering offering an aisle in the theater just for you. a love it or hate it? tweet me. we have all this in "spare change." you can never have too

♪ melissa: time for a little movie

fun with "spare change." today we are joined by an touch magazine's senior editor and our very own adam shapiro. thank you for joining us. your next trip to the movies could be drastically different. big changes coming to a theater near you. new study shows that eating popcorn actually makes people immune to the advertising. some researchers say it may mean the end of selling popcorn or candy in movie theaters. i cannot imagine that movie theaters would give up all of that revenue. what do you think? this is her specialty. >> i cannot imagine that going into a movie and not having popcorn available. maybe if it never started to begin with, but have you changed? melissa: a psychological phenomenon. when you see something new work, you are silently saying the name inside your brain. your mouth is moving with popcorn, you're not doing that. >> to be crude, why aren't man running out and buying feminine hygiene products? and here is why.

of law. melissa: second think of a really good reason why. >> one of the many problems. but they found was the mere fact of chewing interrupts what you just described. there are millions of people have watched television every day eating while they're watch, which means the entire ad budget on television is for not. melissa: we solve that one. the popcorn. it will be okay. that's right. i've won't go anywhere near that. the other one is a testing aisle. amc is saying that they're setting up a specific child because you cannot stop people. they are and they're doing it anyway. they set up their own gile or you can go and do this. >> first of all, this comes after the report that madonna had been testing in the theater. there was a mysterious blonde with close. turns out it was madonna. the head of the alamo draft house theatre send out a tweet st. madonna is banned from his

theater until he apologizes, but really wanted to get the message out. this is a great idea. i love this. melissa: you of the aisle? >> people and not going to stop. people on social media, testing, tweeting, is to grant. those people who want to do that put them in the back, leave them out of everyone else aside and let them text of the storm. madonna can do that, to. melissa: it opens the floodgates. then it will be calling, on their phone. >> the phone goes off. >> exactly. what they should really do, the ushers, the people who clean up afterward, give them water pistols. anyone contacting gets squirted. that will solve it. >> why not give them a spot in the back where it will not bother anyone. you don't have to put up a soundproof wall. keep the glare down. melissa: i was worried about the light. that is what is so annoying.

>> a different sound for the text messaging. melissa: amc says they will surround there testing aisle when soundproofing and barriers to deny glow because there is no way that people will stay in those fires. >> at least this will you tell somebody. >> you could have the old theater as textile. melissa: the new thing. $185,000 per movie theater, which i cannot imagine everyone will really update. there are screens running along the side as well as the front. there you go. they have to shoot it in a special way the you have a camera going forward into the side. some movie makers, the person who already did this said it is like a nightmare. but, i don't know. i mean, it looks kind of cool. and you're not going to allow people to text or eat popcorn, you need something else to get people through the theater.

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