th radio show every weekday 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. eastern. we'll have another gat tv show for you next week on fox business. in the meantime, join me on the radio. some panic, a little frustration setting in for senate democrats who fate re-election next year and the failed rollout of obama care to blame. all but one of those democrats ruing for re-election at the white house today to make certain president obama gets the message. i'm lou dobbs. good evening, everybody. obama care is a failure to this point. the white house has repeatedly lied about how it would affect the american public. and the present's own party is now in something of a panic, 15 of the 16 senate democratsho

are trying to keep their seats beyond 2014 at the white house today, demanding improvement in the afrdable care act and answ e psident suddenly changed his "if you like your health care you can keep it" claim after threeery long years. senator mark baggitch of alaska expressed his deep spleasure with the president no uncertain terms. >> i've made my voice pretty well heard over there. he doesn't return my calls all the time becae i'm yelling at m all the time on some of the issues. >> i have heard from him on day one. i have called suggesting improvements on the site. >> he won election in 200 by just 1%. it is one of 12 seats that the republican party considers now vulnerable, and they are activelyarget his seat. fox news cef white house

correspondent ed enhenry broke e stor >> reporter: president obama conferred late today with democratic senatorial campaign chairman michael bennett nutes after they wrapped up a dramatic closed door meeting with 15 democrats facing the voters in 2014 w are nervous at anger over obama care will knock them out of office. one democratic source familiar with the meeting told fox it was spicy because quote canannididl there's a lot offrustration. it's terrible politics for everyone right now. this was e chance for the president to let a little pressure out after days of republicans piling on". >> our constients are worried. they feel deceived. they're very upset. d they should be. not only with the law itsel but with the w the administration has basically brushed their concerns aside.

>> in a sign of the intensity of the situation, it was a two-hour meeting, and the president was joined by vice predent biden, chief of staff dennis mcdonagh and web sste guru jeffrey zient who assured the skeptical senators health care.govill be up by the end of november. the democrat described a cris in confidence saying quote it's absolutely unacctable in this day and age that th administration can't deliver on the promises it made to all americans because of technical problemswith a web site. alaskans should be appreciating the critical benefits of the affordable care act. but there is an understandable crisis in confidence because the administration has yet to get it off t ground." >> he does not return my calls all the time because i'm yelling at him all the time on some of the issues. but i think they really want to hear from us because we're on ground as you know in our own

communities. i deliver that frustration on a fairly regular basis to the white house. today was more direct. >> that anger from demrats may explain why the white house left the meeting off the president's publicchedule for the day. it was only aftergitch and democrats like mark udall of colorado started lashing out with press releases. udall told the president he need to push back the enrollment period beyond march 2014 and need to get more seous about putting in new safeguard for online privacy. udall declaring "i also told the president for the affordable care act to succeed, consumers need to be confident their persal information is secure. we need to do everything in our power to protect the online marketplace from hackers and cyber attacks." a democratic source familiar with the meeting terms me tt some senators floated the idea of a delay of up to one year for enrollment and fines. that would be a major change. the president of course did not

agree. but i'm told the senators felt it was a constructive meeting. the question now is whether the white house compromises and delay implementation by a few months. lou? >> joining us tonight is congressman diane black, former registered nurse, a member of both the budget commit yo and the hoe ways and means committee, also one of 29 members of the budget conference committee. great to have you with us, anne. let me start with this analog from the op ed piece that the woman wrote. "my choice toys get coverage. if we could see this on a full screen, please. my choice is to get coverage through the government health exchange and lose access to my cancer doctors or p much more for insunce outside the exchange. the quotes average 40 to 50% more for the privilege of starting over with an unfamiliar insurance company and impaired benefits." is that pretty much what the nation is facing? >> lou, i am so discouraged with

this administrion. th goes down as this ladys talking about to the patient, to the care, to the kinds of things that are saving people's lives in this situation where she's going lose her providers. her hospital, her doctors, and have very little opptunity to get other kinds of services, and it's going to cost her much much more. this is affecting real people and their lives. and th administration needs to stand u and take rponsibility for what's happeningn people's rsonal lives with their health care. >> you mean as they have done in which cases specifically before this? is there any experientialal evidence? >> we haven't seen them take any responsibility f anything whher it's the web site and we blame the contractors. just take responsibility. this thing is a trainwreck. it was from the beginning. but now we're not just talking about well the technology is wrong or this is wrong.

we're taing about real people and their lives and their health care bng impacted by this horrible bill. >> what are you going to do for individual americans, working man and woman, trying to make it and to find their way through this train wreck? >> well, you're right. we do have a bill at we have already put out there that does give people opportunity and choices and brings costs down. but let me go back to one of the things you said businesses will make it. because right here in the state of tennessee, which is where i live, we have cover tennessee, which is a small business opportunity for small businesses to have insurance. it's called cover tennessee. 28,000 lives were dropped off of is programecause the state said we cannot continue providing this opportunity for small businesses because of the obamcare. because theyay you have to have a certain level of coverage in order for them tbe able to -- in e day 28,000 people.

these are real lives. these are businesses. >> 3.5 million people have been1 pushed out of their policies and left in a situation, could be in the same situation as the woman who has stage iv gall bladder cancer. it's a tough time. and the issues are being consumed by a stone lling, frankly dysfunctional adminiration. >> absolutely. and the republicanarty wants to talk about -- forgivee for saying this because i love the budget. i love fiscal policy. but this isn't the ti for g, grand bargains on fiscal policy by a supercommittee, of which you are an important member, i realize. it's a time to start reaching after the people. and i know you do ts on a daily basis. but the entire caucus has an opportunity here that don't sense that the caucus is really trying to plement to take advantage of. >> lou, we are. and we have a house care bill

that is out there thatoes the kinds of things where it gets backntohe market, wher it gives tients opportunities and choices, unlike what you're finding he obama care. we are listeningng to peoplend whatheir needs are, and we have a plan that we put out ere. look, need to also talk about our debt and deficit. getting that stightened out is going to cause the economy to grow. >> if you and your caucus think that you have the power as the majority in the house o representatives against a party that holds the presidency and the senate and you're willing to risk again shutting down this government, i think that you will beaking the bigst mistak imaginable. >> i'm not talking about closing down thevernment. i'm talking about finding common ground. >> somebody in your caucus need to take leadership role, whether 's the speaker or whomever it may be and say we're not going to shut the government down. we're not going to be irrational. we're not going to slam some

grand bargain on fist kical pol down the american people's throat like thpresident did on obama care >> i'm telling you right now we are working to fin common ground with our democrats, reaching across the aisle. i think you saw thatast week when we had our first meeting. we are finding ways we can work together. we have to govern. we can't just keep stalemating and closing the government don. we have to govern. we have got to find wys to get the deficit under control. we've got to do that. that's what we're intending to do inthis committee. it's not grand bargain. it's taking baby steps. paying down on the debt. having a down payment to make su our debt and deficit is taken care of. that's what helps the economy to grow is when we place certainty out there and closing the government down doesn't place certainty. it sure doesn't. and it raises hell with american families, working men and women, and indeed this economy. we appreciate you being here. it's alwaygood to talk with you. >> always good to talk with you,

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election day has, well, concluded. in many ways it was a battle, it seems, for thefuture of the republican party. establishmentepublicans trying to crush the tea party in some races, andn some cases losing their way. >> chris christie easily won re-election in new jersey, setting the stage for a run in

2016. but governor christie seemed to be running at times more against the tea party th his mocratic opponent. in part because it eated an effective appeal to liberal voters in new jersey. in virginia, tea party-backe republican ken cuccinelli lost by only three points to the clinton-backed terry mcauliffe when some polls had him losing by double digits. the gop establishmentorked hard to push await tea party in virginia and incredibly allowed an obama bung letter to build a third party libertarn candidacy that took twice as many votes as mcauliffe'smargin of victory. there's a lot to be learned from the gubernatorial races in virginia and new jersey. one lesson cerinly is the gop leadership is as committed to big businesess andstablishment candidates as they are opposed to the tea party lib liber tearance and conservative candidates. the gop establishment committed

enormous resources in alabama to ec centrist bradley burn over tea party activist dean young. the real question remerges, can the republican party win next year without including libertarians and the tea party in their tent. a lot of public initiatives on the ballot last night as well. folks in colorado can now smoke pot, but that rocky mountain high will be taxed at 25%. in northern colorado, a split decision on secession. six counti rejectedit, five counties wenent for it. the moral of the movement is, if at first you don't secede try again. elsewhere e houston astro dome likely to be reduced to rubble. voters rejecting a $200 million renovation. you can also smoke pot in portland, maine now. it is now a legal recreational activity. new york voters approving seven las vegas-yle casinos.

yesterday's election at least in part was about vice and in some cases a lack of moderation. we'll see what both parties ke of that and whether there's room for a third vie next year and in 2016. joining us now to take up the implications of the wins and losses for both pares we are joined by julie wiginsk ikz, democratic strategist and michael goodwin, pulitzer prize winning "new york post" columnist. julie let's start with you. a remarkable win for governor christie. he is now i would have to say the poin man in the advance toward the parts nomination. >> amazing. if you look at the actual exit polland where he did well it becomes even more amazing. chris christie who everybody thinks ace big moderate, he has portrayed himself that way. >> he is a conservative. >> can't you be a conservative moderate? maybe not. >> he calls himself a conservative. >> that mabe but he didn't campgn -- >> he al could not be. >> correct. but he got 92% of the tea party

vote in the exit polls. that'samazing. >> that's pretty impressive. particularly with some of the things that he's said about the tea party. he has been pushing them away. in doi so i think very cleverly >> yes. and i also with a lot of the democratic core constituencies. african-americans, hispanics, he split the hispanic vote, winning amonwomen. >> he won the hispanic vote. 51 points. >> he won women. >> 19-point increase over prious -- >> something on the order of one out of three democrats voted for him as well yesterday. so this is cutting across all the lines. to mehis is heartening that a republican candidate can cross over that way and get a lot of voters who simply want answers to their problems. >> yes. and in what we watched in virginia, was a dramatic demonstration of powerful

establishment politics on the democratic side, obviously, terry mcauliffe, former dnc chair mine, acolyte of president clinton and one ofis if not the principal fundraiserust barely got through against a tea party candidate that the republican party was basically trying to kill by stranglg and money. >> if you ask t mcauliffe people they'll say they wre never up by me an three or four points. >> we all read the polls. double digits. >> correct. in some cases i would say terry mcauliffe s a flawed candidate. the only person a little more flawed apparently was ken cuccinel. not rock star candidates like chris christie in new jersey. even bobcdonald, he didn't support ken cuccinelli. that means a struggle for the republicanparty. >> a governor who has all sorts of ethic complaints and problems. >> yet his approval ratings a 53 or 54% which is amazing in

virginia. >> that's a warm hug from an electorate so quick to judge th mcauliffe and cuccinelli. >> correct. >> i disagree with you on this. i think both candidates could have been star candidates. but they chose really, i ink, unfortunate paths in their candidacy. cuccinelli bught all of the warmth and energy to his candidacy of frankly a slug. i terviewed him. i talked with him. this is a man who's dynamic. he's intelligent. he is a committed public servant. and my god, in the waning weeks of the campaign he was just sluggish. and mcauliffe, he looked like he had been beateno a pulp. it was a strange, strange performance by both candidates. >> well, and don't forget the amount of money mcauliffe had, advantage money 3 or 4 to 1 cominn down the stretch. >> 10 to 1 in terms of

advertising spent in the final weeks of the campaign. look, republican establishment knew they were killing the candidacy of cuccinelli by not giving him more support. >> i thi the problems with obama re clearlyelped cuccinellin the last few days close that gap that mcauliffe certainly had. i would make another argument, too, about this. i think it sho that all the mainstream media was covering the obama re disaster. and i think thereas no hiding from it. imagine if the mainstream media had covered a lot of the other obama disasters, benghazi, the irs scandal, alonghe way, just a whole jobs issue. >> there would have been no second term. >> i think not only that but i >> i don't know if you can blame this on the media. the problem with ken cuccinelli's campaign and the advantage to chris christie's campaign, christie is operating in the staae of new jersey where there's no media, new york affiliate market. he made his own mediate. why he talked to the voters.

ken cuccinelli spent and was defined by the mcauliffe people spenway too much time worrying about what people do in their bed oms, things people don't worry object. >> the usual war on women strategy, to which the republicans don't have a counter strategy. >> they do. it's called chris christie. chris christiean against the first all-women ticket i think in the history of this nation and still won the woman vote. >> and he's pro-life. >> and still won the woman's vote. >> in new jersey there as no attack on hhm as a war on women. >> he tried. didn't succeed. >> in virginia it was an overwhelming attack on ken cuccinelli. absurdity, but nonethess an attack. and ihink we have -- there are two events whenou talk about media that are real, irrespective of media coverage. one is how in the wor does cuccinelli recover when the establishment republican party as wl as the tea party embraced t shutdown of government in e weeks leading right up to the ection? that was devasting for

cuccinelli, i believe. and how in the world does mcauliffe give flight to his candidacy with obama care a train wreck to wch there is no exit? >> because while obama care, which i don't consider to be a train wrecbut let's posit for a minute. >> of course you don't. let me rephrase that. wonderful success. a monument to president obama's leadership with that you're going to get the las wo. >> thank you and good night. no, but look, i don't agree with you that it's a wreck. people are not as affected by it virginia as by the shutdown. northern virginia -- >> i couldn't agree with you more. >> that's the problem for ken cuccinelli. >> it was a problem for ken cuccinelli. and the fact is, by the na narrowest of mgins last night he lost >> michael quick last word. >> i think obama care will be the problem going forward. there's not likely to be another shutdown between now and the next election. but obama care is with us.

>> hip hip hooray. >> on that hppy note -- >> thank you both. up next, rusan president putin reportedly having second thoughts about his association wi syrian dictator bashar al ass assad. we take that up and much more witheneral jack dean here next. [ male annncer ] it is more than just a new car... morehan a new interior lighting system. ♪ it is more than a hot stone massage. and more than your favite scent infused into the cabin it is a completely new era of innovation. and the highest expression of mercedes-benz. introducing the 2014 s-class. the best or nothing.

fox news correspondent james rosen reports russia is preparing reportedly for a post-assad future in syria. that according to european allies who say that president put inis looking for ways to establish a trantional government in damascus nearly three years after its civil war began. so it appears putin is pursuing an mercantilist foreign policy. a price has to be paid for his accommodation, we just don't know what the terms of the deal are, what the price will be. and secretary of state kerry in israel today essentiall dismissing prime minister netanyahu and the israeli position on middle east peace as

so far putin has demanded a price for nearly every adjustment in the russn sition. what are your thoughts? >> well, certainly there'll be a price. but i don't think we should be too quick to throw the towel in on this relationip. assad is in the strongest position he's been, lou, since the revolution began against him. chemical weapons disarmament deal that the united states and russia have brokered wh him has legitimized that government and galvanized his control and also weakened the opposition force that's standing agains him. it's more fragmented than it has

been. it's never receiving the miliry aid in any consequential way that the united states has promised. so i don't think this thg is a fissure yet. and assad has got a vote here unless the russians are successful in undermining the support that's around him. >> and the support right now for mahmd abbas seemso beising as the united states gives further aid to the palestinians, another $75 million courtesy secretary of state kerry today. what is your assessment of what the united states policy is there and its goals? >> well, every secreta for the last 50 years has tried to broker some kind of peace treaty dealing with the palestinians and the israelis, and we've had seminal failure. i think we're here -- what took place here, frankly, is the israis and the palestinians both made concessions as a

condition r beginning the peace talks, and then the palestinians began to push back on the new settlements being constructed but they we not part of the concessions. they belly ached quite a bit about that and lo and behold they got an additional concession out of the united states, another additional 75 million. i don't think strategy wise it makes sense. you want the people talking to each other israel his and palestinians and not frustrate one side against the other. >> no oneould seemingly be more frustrated than prime minister netanyahu, whose focus remains iran, and who is concerned that the obama administration is not focused on iran. give us your perspective on what will likely transpire there. >> well, clearly iran is israel less number one strategic enemy in the region and it's also ours. it's certainly saudi arabia's and the sunni gulf states. the iranians have never given up

on domination of the region. that's why they've had a state-sponsored terrorist campaign against youus and othe countries in the 30 years. they're moving towards nuclear weapons. i think they always look at diplomacy and negotiationas simply this. one step back due to diplomacy and negotiations then two steps forward. that's been the patter for 15 years. they watched the north koreans do it much to their succes in acquiring a nuclear wean. i thin netanyahu is eally very much concerned now, because he thks the united states in a sense is neutered, that we're not going to take any action and he's going to be on his own as eventually iran makes a race to a nuclear weapon an he's forced to do something. >> general jack keene as always good to have you here. up next, the obama care failure pushing president obama closer to a dubious record. his poll numbers continue to take a beating. my customers can shop around.

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joining us now, former senator scott brown, fox news contributor. scott, it's great to have you with us. i want to just turn first to obama care, the discussion from republicans now about he budget. even as the president is trying to change the subject, are we witnessing the rublican party again try to accommodate him by letting him change the subject? >> well listen, obviously our debt and deficit, taxes, spending, jobs, national security are all very important issues. but right now the most important issue, the thing that's on everybody's mind wther you're a large business owner or small buness owner or an individual is this health care debacle. bottom line i they tried to ram it through, tried to circumvent me. i got elected in an attempt to stop obama care. in massachusetts they had a deal with the white house where they held me up being sworn in for a coupleof weeks so they could ram it through.

then when i got there, don't forget they did not allow one amendment try to fix this bill in any way, shape or form. so shame on them now. people like landrieand shaheen and pryor and begitch complaining we didn't know anything about the grand fathering and the fact that people are going to lose their licies. they voted on it. every one of them said hey, we don't care. so health care and the debacle that we're seeing right now and the fact that people are deeply deeply concerned and rightly so that it's going to cost too much, it's going to have way too much long wait in line in it, and it's just a mess. >> are you concerned fther, ough, that t repuicans don't seem to be finding a common voice here? they have an opportunity to go in to 2014 and just -- i mean, i think they have got a gift from this administrion and from the democraton capitol hill i both houses that should assure

them of significant victories in congress and the senate, don't you think? >> well, here's the issue. so they all agree that they hate obama care. so what are they fighting about? they're fighting about who' more conservative on obama care. who cares who's more conservative bottom line is, we have an issue. it's broken. we needto fix it. and how do you do that? the first thing that the president should do, quite honestly, is to show some adership and actually work with congress immediately and grab the bull by the horns and say, hey, we're going to step back for at least six to nine to 12 months and just put everything on hold. we're going too a break break. everything top to bottom, do that top t bottom review and see what's working and what's not. we need your help, congress. we need your help, senate. he's not doing that. he's checking out. the blame game is unbelieble. first of all, people need to be fired. secondly you got to get people in there w actually know how to run a business or know how to create a web site. can you imagine, lou, we sent 400 million plus of our tax dollars and we gave the job to a

canadian company who couldn' even give it to a uned states company and it's brokoken. soes, you're absolutely right. they need to work together. they should be completely and totally united on this issue. and so should the democrats. >> very quickly as we're over time here. but do you think the president can recover from four years -- just about four years of repeated misrepresentations, misstatements or outright dishonesty speaking to the american people? or is the matr irretrievably for him? >> well, listen. people will give you a break if you're honest and say listen, i made a mistake. i messed up. >> this many times? >> they couldave done it on benghazi, on the irs issue, and they certainly could have done it on this. yeah, listen, it's a problem for me and many others. but with the president he seems to be very, very resilient and people don't care as long as they're getting some of the benefits they get or they're

getting time with the president and pushing forth his agenda. and you have every democrat, almost every demrat in the house and nate pushing his agenda still and making things up and making it worse. the american people need to hold everybody accountable at the ballot boxome2014. >> senator scott brown, thanks for being with us. up next, the brand-new book "middle-eastern heroes on the home front" brings together a collection of true stories from the men and women who put their lives on the line to defend our greanation. and one of those people, who's defended this nation, author colonel oliver north is next. we went out and asked people a simple question: how olis the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a loof us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need

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the sacrifice made by our men and women in uniform as well as those obviously made by their families. joining us now is the author, lieutenant colonel oliver north. his new book "american heroes on the home front, the hearts of heroes." it is great to have you with us. >> great to be with you. >> terrific book. i start by saying you've got to reed this book. it is written for folks like me who love the pictures as much as the words. these rain credible pictures and it's an incredible story. >> well, we did that one special on war stories where we were allowedo put a team down at camp la june, north carolina. i was out with the unit when it was deployed in iraq in 2006. of course, while we're embedded they lost marines. down at camp leune, obviously a privilege very few have ever been granted, we were there to cover that aspect of it.

so what you've got today is a llow on to tat experience, in large part because my best friend and the mother of our kids said to me after that show, yonever understood until now what we were going through back at home. so the hearts of heroes aren't just the purple hearts, it's the hearts of those that love them. >> now, the story of what the families go through,nd the importance of their support to these wounded warriors in particular, it's so critical, so important. and i think organizations like the fisher house, they wwrk for the families just as much as they're working for that wounded warrior and how important that is. >> and one of the things that i think we need to be very careful of in this new era of reduced budgets for almost everything litary, they not cut the family sport services to the bone which looks like are going

to do. because ultimatelythe ability to attract enough volunteers for the next war is going to dend a lot on how we've treated the volunteers in this war. i point outto people that for the very first time since the american revolution, every single person serving in a uniform in a time of war is a volueer. it's not hppened in between. and so george washington is right. your ability to attract enough volunteers next go around is going to depend on how well we treat those from this one, and they better not forget the sacrifices o these families. >>oujudgment, how well are we taking care of our wounded rriors, taking care of their families? >> there's no doubt that the military medical system is the best in the wld. in fact, you're far better off getting woded on the battle field in afghanistan thanyou are having a crash on the interstate. because these guys know how to deal with it. trauma care is the best in the world. the rehab is. theroblem is in the transition from the military system to the v.a. the veterans administration. what happens there, quite

frankly, is unconscionable. you've got a 22-month average time between the day ty start filing the paperwork and the v.a. accepts them into t system. i ve been with guys who are in this boo there's graphic pictures in here we would never put on fox. these guys said no, this what is happened when we were hurt. please show people what it was really like. so it's very graphic. it takes them in that progress through immediate battle field care, trauma, to germany, back to the states and then in rehab. and now processed out into the quote real world. what's happened is two things. one, the v.a. system isbroke. the motto over the door of the v.a. is "nothing is too good for our troops" that's just what we're going to give them, nothing. second of all, these kid deserve a good job. it's the brightest, best educed military that the world's ever seen. >> and post-traumatic stress, you talk about it in the book. and we've got so many guys

sufferinfrom that. and i think about the tours. when you were in vietnam versus the tours these guys were expected so many of em over so many years in afghanistan, in iraq. i can't even -- contrast if you will the pressure on the battle field knowing you're going out on one mission. the guys that we've been sending over to afghanistan and iraq day after day aer d of intense, innse combat. >> world war ii, my dad -- i was bornt fort sam houston in san antonio, texas when my dad was already overseas. my mom and dad met at uso dance in 1940. he leftn early 1943, didn't come home until '45. gone f two years. total tim in combat fothe 95th infantry division is less than six months, even though they were go for two years. korea average time in combat 11 months. vietnam average time in combat 13 months for a single term.

today, i'm a marine talking about the army. third infantry division of the united states army, one of the best units that's ever been, three 15-month tours for your average 60-month enlistee. it's unheard of. there'never been a military asked thatuch of those volunteers. >> you're going to meet some of these terrific volunteers and those who have served the nation so gallantly a have sacrifid so much as you point out for all of us. thank you, colonel oliver north. the book is"american heroes on the home front" on sale now online and at book stores all over. up next, extortion. capitol hill thieves off of your money some of which by ves, some ending in -- , no, th is not possible -- in our elected officials' pockets? author peter schweitzer joins me next. i can't believe at. ♪

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millions of us seeing health care plans canceled, losing access to doctors, seeing premiums rise. but my next guest says obama fundraisers and cronies will be making millions off the failed rollout. joining us now is peter schweitzer, president of the government accountability institute, research fellow at the hoover institution, and right now more importantly he's the author of the "new york times" best seller "extortion, how politiciansxtract your money by votes and line their n pockets." peter good to have you with us. how are politicians making out on this train wreck? >> well, the thing we always have to recognize, lou, is that theye very creative and they

find ways to maximize their position and thosef their biggest supporters. so you have a circumstance in this caswhere millions americans are losing their health care covege, millions moreaving difficulty even finding out what coverage is available. and yet there are people that are very well-position tay do well financially. these are connections that are ma by financiers, business owners who are bundlers for the president who have positioned their business in a nice way to profit from theandates that obama care has created. this is the problem you get when you t crony capitalism, where the government starts picking winners and loosers and making these kinds of decisions. >> they're making decisions, picking winners and losers without question and frankly telling the american people to go to hell when they're assed a question. we have literally no information on enrollments over the course of the nearly -- well, it's one month that it's been in effect.

the best we've got that is there were 200 enrollments in two days and that's the end of our knowdge. how are we to react to this administration? >> well, i think outrages necessary. but i don't ink it can just be outrage in a general sense. i think we have to learn lessons from this. the american people have to recognize that when the government comes and says we're going to take 15 to 20% of the entire enomynd we' going to reconfigure itnd trust us we know what we're doing, they're not half as smart as they think they are. these are very complex economic systems. and whethethese problems were intended o unintended, the fact of the matr is, you cannot be smart enough. no group of people can be smart enough to reconfigure complex system like this without causing major major disruptions. and the reality is that the disruptions tend to go negative for those who are not connected

in washington, d.c. and very positive for those who e. >> you mean pain for millions of americans. flesh and blood pain. let me turn to as i was talking with matt and judy and hank, this effort now, all of these organizations that have blossomed suddenly are lobbying the house to go to this senate amnesty legislation. what are you thoughts? you've got food workers are now amongst the leaders, the fast food chaiis are amongst the leaders in pushing for amnesty. what are we watchiig happen to this country? >> well, it's basic supply and demand. and if you are a company and you want to keep wages down, the way you do that is by increasing labor supply. soill be a boon to companies to keep labor costs down. and it's ironic to me, lou, that the the same people who are pushing to increase the minimum wage in the united states are

the same people that are saying want amnesty. you can't have both of those at e same time. if youncrease the labor supply it is going to hurt working class and middle class americans. who it's going to benefit is basically the investment class, people that are involved wit majo corporations, own a lot of shares. those are going to make out very, very well when it comes to amnesty because it's going to help their bottom line. >> peter as i was saying to hank, the fact is that in most industries in which illegal immigrants are a major component of their workforce wages are actually declining, not rising. and that is not reflective of -- as you well no, that's not reflective of a scarce labor force. that is an indication that labor is in surplus. >> yes. >> and for people with a straight face to walk into washington, d.c. contending otherwise is truly remarkable.

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