work. that is my "2 cents more," and that is it for tonight on "the willis report." thank you for joining us. see you right back here tomorrow. have a good evening. ♪ ♪ >> good evening, everybody. i'm ashley webster internet for lou dobbs. president obama receiving more potentially devastating news regarding his controversial health care law. the supreme court announcing that obamacare is back on the docket, and the question of whether or not the president's signature law and -- in fringes of religious freedom will be decided. announcing today a bill will take up the dispute of the u.s. businesses claiming religious objections over the laws contraception mandate. that issue has divided the lower courts, oklahoma city based arts

and crafts chain hobby lobby winning its appeal in pennsylvania based losing. the supreme court will consider both cases with the ruling coming as early as march. that announcement following another dose of bad news for obamacare. the administration reluctantly saying today that the website is fixed and may not be complete by the self-appointed deadline of november 30th. that means millions of americans can still expects delays, outages commands which is come december. president obama pulling out all the stops in an attempt to change the conversation after giving a speech and immigration and attending several holiday fun -- hollywood fund-raisers. the president today tuchman the economy. chief washington correspondent james risen as our report. >> reporter: with less than a week to go before the relaunch of the obamacare website president obama got a firsthand look at how hollywood transforms

the mundane into the magical. on the margins, the great steve martin suffering a cold and opted out of the presidential handshake. and mr. obama wants to martin and actor jim parsons record dialogue. >> i fixed my mistake. >> but you have made your mistake. >> i made many mistakes before that. >> reporter: hitting his marks the president focused on the economy. smart phone systems and other advances, but also acknowledging many mistakes that create what he called the rough debut of obamacare. >> serious southern california and across the state there are thousands of people every single day who are getting health care from the first time. the first time. [applause] because of this. [applause] and by the way, the website is continually working better, so check it out. [laughter] >> reporter: the conference

board reported consumer confidence dropped nearly two points to its lowest level since april with fear about hiring and wages aggregated by that government shut down and the cancellation of millions of health insurance policies. >> the fact that the $600 million we spend on health care -- healthcare.gov and it does not work is only the tip of the iceberg. maybe they will get that fixed eventually. >> reporter: health and human services secretary kathleen subereous val deceitful will be better than the original. >> we are definitely on track to have a significantly different user experience by the end of this month. different than what people experience of october 1st. the experience is vastly improved each and every day. >> reporter: if any president could benefit from a hollywood right, it is the incumbent. greatly damaged his second term approval rating, even assessments of his confidence and honesty, one presidential historian -- historian sees no

president's succeeding in that task facing this one. >> and bill clinton with i did not have sex with that woman faced a similar kind of credibility crisis and did manage to exit his term with pretty good popularity ratings. that was a personal issue, not a policy issue. the american people always willing to listen to a president who has something to tell them. i think he still has a chance to get some of that just back. but there is no doubt about it. >> reporter: california led the natioo in signups last month, but it is also one of the states hardest hit by the wave of cancellations with nearly 1 million residents losing coverage. ashley. ashley: james rose and, thank you very much. one key component of the president's health care law is said to be challenged in court and another is closer to reality thanks to the senate not using its so-called nuclear option to change rules on how it passes

presidential nominations. the senate can now move forward on filling positions in obamacare is independent and in advisory board or as critics like to college, the death penalty. fox news chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has our report. >> reporter: after majority leader harry reid change the rules to allow presidential nominees to be confirmed with 51 votes president obama will be able to kill the independent in an advisory board which is democratic support. a 15-member panel created with obamacare, and the role is -- congressman michael burgess, a republican from texas who is a medical doctor, says he worries about its influence. >> it is an increase in power by the agency in the executive branch. people who are well remove from the active practice of medicine. that becomes even more problematic. when you think of the damage that the affordable care act as to the doctor-patient relationship, this may be a final straw. >> reporter: former alaska

governor sarah palin called this group debt panels and was blasted for it. some in the mainstream media are now disputing it could lead to rationing of care. >> not fully forthcoming. >> reporter: you believe that there will be rationing, a k a death panels. >> it is built into the bland. it is not like a gas or a judgment. it will be part of it. >> reporter: former vermont governor also against it writing in the "wall street journal" in july, by setting dr. reimbursement rates in determining which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the ipad will be able to stop certain treatments of members do not favor by simply setting rates and levels were no doctor or hospital to perform in. liberal supporters of the obamacare insist there cannot be rationed and paging companies won't go up. >> what could change eventually is if the plant -- plan includes certain tweet step reimbursement rates that the government pays

the hospitals and doctors. but even that is subject to congressional approval. so there are checks and balances in the system. >> congress has the vote seven -- has the right to vote up or down, but if there is gridlock the secretary has the ability to implement the cuts of the board. that is, they go through in spite of congressional disapproval. that is a big concern for critics, the possibility of even more power for the secretary of health and human services if the president does not nominate members are of the senate does not confirm the march congress does not agree with their work. ashley: thank you very much. on wall street today another record-breaking day for stocks. gaining a fraction to close at its 43rd record i. the s&p up a fraction also and the nasdaq gained 23 points to close above 4,000 for the first time in more than 13 years. green arrows everywhere. much more ahead on "lou dobbs tonight". to get the latest supreme

court challenge to obamacare and filling those death panel positions. dr. mark mcclellan is here, former administrator for medicare and medicaid services. also, a live update on this deadly winter storm making thanksgiving travel an absolute nightmare. and father jonathan morris is here to work as through pulp france's new manifesto and idolatry of money and his apparent attack of capitalism. very interesting and austria had. stay with us. take-it-or-leave-it, the obama administration as an ultimatum for the afghan president. eric and judy on security negotiations with afghanistan and the threat of the zero option next. ♪

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♪ ashley: the hit series homeland which we are just talking about could not be more realistic. a new report claims, 2006, the cia reportedly turned guantanamo bay prisoners into double agents the prisoners were then sent back to the country to help the u.s. steel tariffs after being trained at a top-secret facility called penny lane just a few hundred yards from the present. the daily beast reporting the congressional leaders are urging the obama administration to act on knowledge that russia of violating the nuclear treaty with the unit is states for. then senator john kerry, the imf violations back in 2012. information, the control treaties. and one day after china controversially tried to expand its air space over disputed chain of islands in the east china sea, a pair of american -- to bombers flew over the area directly challenging china's decreed that, but the u.s. and

japan say they have zero intention of complying. president obama-security advisor imposing an ultimatum on president honeyed cars a day of afghanistan. ~ a security agreement. faugh. he was the u.s.'s top counter-terrorism raids of afghan homes. much to talk about. joining us, eric's tackle back, author of the brotherhood. america's next great enemy, a pulitzer prize-winning journalist and fox news contributor judith miller. thank you both for being here. judy, i will start with you because you look at how the karzai in afghanistan. look, this guy is off his madd's again. [laughter] why you say that? >> well, a lot of the analysts and the cia believe that he is

kind of borderline psychotic. also because we should be forgetting about him. we should let him rant. we should let him talk and threaten. he is history as of april 2014. and the next president will do whatever it takes to keep the americans there. and i think that that is what is going to happen. you know what he should not do is threaten to do something that is not in your nation's interest . because he might just take you up on it. ashley: what about that? what is the play? >> you know, i am not for nation-building, particularly in afghanistan. i think that we should keep a limited force there for one reason, to kill or capture terrorists to make a, that's out men and cal tied up.

aiden nothing that we should have a heavy footprint. the same time, i don't think we can give the impression that we are beating a retreat because the talent and obviously is very perceptive and since that. you have to wonder, is karzai trying to kind of claim some street cried because the taliban and as always painted in as basically a stooge. now he's standing up to barack obama. by the way, like everyone else, everyone is testing barack obama, even karzai who is basically dead in the water just two years ago before. ashley: to that point, let's get to the subject of this treaty. what kind of deal is that? does not really address anything in my mind because all of those positions, provisions that were agreed to could be reversed easily. >> yes, they can be, but it buys time and it is also a test. supposedly more pragmatic iranian government. these are people who cannot be

arrested, they talk a different game. let's see whether or not they can deliver. if they -- their already made concessions in exchange for very modest sanctions relief. let's remember will we are talking about. $7 billion out of a country that has $100 billion in frozen assets all over the world that it cannot touch. a country that has a $35 billion deficit. this is a country that needs relief. let's see if they respond to it at the administration hopes it will be. ashley: eric, those critical of this agreement say that the sanctions were working and we let them off the hook. what do you think? >> i agree wholeheartedly. i think there is one lesson in history, including recent history with north korea in the 1990's, and this is tired and sly. i am not so encouraged by the new supposedly smiling moderate iranian president, the value has been a part of this radical totalitarian regime from the

beginning, from the inception. he was part of ayatollah, the new smiling face. a genius move by the iranians. why not my mood, dennis john. if you are nearing a nuclear finish line but out of moderate. while he talks western leaders to death the iranians will continue to develop weapons of mass death. is is a genius strategy. unfortunately for us where the target of it and israelis. ashley: what is the alternative? let's be realistic. barack obama going to bomb with or without the israelis? no, he is not. you either have three options. you can do the status quo, keep the sanctions on. we now have 18,000 subterfuges spin. he know what -- wait a minute.

they're going to -- let me finish. they're going to take some of the 20% interest uranium. make it -- muchn it was. they agreed not to complete their heavy water plants. ashley: do you trust that? >> i don't. one thing and no one is talking about in this agreement because the iranians, hurtful. they have given us excess that we have never had before the two facilities i think we will know a lot more about this iranian president and we know now. we already know that they're developing nuclear programs. >> when you think you know everything you wind up with an iraq. >> it will be even worse than we

thought. >> had not think anyone has any illusions about the iranians. the issue is, what is your alternative. ashley: that truth, the all story. thank you so much. appreciated. coming up next, the white house makes a tacit admission about obamacare that they have been predicting. the administrator mark mcclellan is next. don't go away. ♪ constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. withhe spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every d. what's in ur wallet? i need your timesheets, larry!

teeseven the woman in charge of implementing the affordable care acting president obama some state of hawaii has resigned after delays in getting this data exchange have been running in a low number of enrollments in october. why health connector executive director carl andrews has decides to leave on her own after two years setting that she needs to let go and have someone else take charge. website glitches caused the why east games to start in rome in two weeks late in only 257 people signed up during the first month. my next guest is quite familiar with challenging rollouts. he held to deal with medicare

part b, the prescription drug benefit. joining is now, dr. mark mcclellan. during the last bush administration, currently senior fellow and director of health care innovation and value initiative to, the brookings institution. thank you for joining yes. what lessons did you learn in the rollout of the prescription drug benefit and what are those lessons that are being ignored now? >> well, there are a lot of lessons. the problems that are happening right now with the website really are just the first that in a whole set of implementation , challenges. ahead of challenges like making sure that the information that people send to health care -- healthcare.gov actually make it to the health plan that they want to enroll in and then also are coming up in january, there will be people who lost their coverage at the end of this year or for whatever reason did not get enrolled in a plan that they wanted to enroll in and will be facing some challenges in

getting care in january. those are problems that are red, problems that the administration can anticipate and try to mitigate, but we are not done with the whole implementation process once the website is working for most people. ashley: it is interesting. more and more now we are hearing from people involved in the rollout of this program that there were problems, but that they were, perhaps, ignored because they felt that the damage done by not rolling out on time would be greater than saying, hey, we have problems and we're going to lay it. i know hindsight is always 2020, but you know, it appears that they knew that there would be problems to afford even rolled it out. how big a mistake was that? >> well, anytime you are starting a major new program like this one there are going to be issues, and i think that most importantly for going forward, there are more problems ahead, and now the good time is to let people know that they're coming.

it is not the case that just fixing the issues with the website will fix all of the challenges with implementation. it will be checked to have problems of people starting to use the new coverage. a good lesson going forward is be sure it did the american public a heads up about some of the challenges that still lie ahead. ashley: medicaid enrollment fast outpacing in room for private insurance. how are stage going to handle the burden of that medicaid coverage? >> that is a good question. many of the states that are expanding coverage to put more effort into making sure that the new or expanded plans can accommodate the people coming on board. as you said, there is lot of new enrollment going on in medicaid. many states it is running well ahead of the enrollment in health insurance exchange plans. so that is another issue that is important to plan ahead for in

january. that new surge of enrollees hit the actual health plan, the actual coverage, making sure that there is way to meet that increase in demand. ashley: a big question here, this is a very rich country by comparison to many others around the world. and the fact remains that 40, 50 million people are unemployed. the effort to get them covered should be afforded in some sense, but is this the way to go about it? >> it is important to discovers to americans. born to make sure that the coverage is as affordable as possible. as you said, we still have a long way to go in terms of bringing down the cost of health care and helping people get the best care for their needs. too much of our health care cost today is because the people not preventing illnesses that are preventable, not preventing complications and more effective health care systems. i think the next set of steps even beyond implementing an affordable care act is really

focusing in on ways to get better care at a lower cost. health care providers around the country, implementing new ways of doing it -- delivering care, smart phones god the way to get the cost down, we just really need to roll up our sleeves and do much more of it. ashley: well, never assure word said. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. great to be with you. ashley: coming up, another record day on wall street as the nasdaq it's a magical milestone not seen in years. moody's chief economist on the record markets and the economy straight ahead. ♪ ashley: taking on capitalism and what he calls the idolatry of money. breaking down the pope manifesto on the tyranny of markets next. ♪ (vo) you are a business pro. maestro of proje management. baron of the build-out. you need a permit... to be this asome.

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the 139 million americans expected to travel for thanksgiving. an early winter weather system is moving towards the northeast. it's already here in many places. delaying flights with wind and ice and snow. the deadly storm responsible for 14 deaths across five states. for what to expect, let's turn to chief meteorologist rick weizman. reporter: that's right, we've been watching this storm movement across new mexico and texas. now we are dealing with it five to six days later on the eastern seaboard. around 15 minutes and la guardia, and now just going up to about 30 minutes. baltimore, philly, and that is great news. the center and the main piece of

energy is right here and that is all here across the northeast. tornado concerns tonight across florida and georgia you can see this with the frrezing rain. rain across the cities and the temperatures are really going to warm up over the next couple of hours temperatures around 50 degrees, it is all rain, we will be talking about two to 3 inches accumulating across the higher elevations and some of it will be heavy and the biggest thing that will cause delays is wins. forty and 50 miles per hour and that will ground or delay a lot of the flight there. very heavy snow across the backside of this, especially

buffalo in pittsburgh and cleveland and we will see how this progresses over time. rain across the coast, very heavy rain across the interior sections. into thursday morning, it is pretty much gone except for the much cooler air and widening this out, looking at the rest of the country, thursday at noon, barely anything going on, so if you can delay your drive, do that on thursday morning and you will be a lot better off. thursday it will happen and i think most of the weather will happen tomorrow. ashley: criticizing capitalism is the new tyranny. calling on the catholic church to fight poverty and inequality.

father jonathan morris. thank you so much for being here. he is calling it the tierney of the markets and inequality of the economy and he is really creating a ruckus with what he said. >> he is a very simple man. whether talking about our responsibility and the followers of jesus to love the poor and do it in a very personal way. he's living in a guesthouse and a very simple way of life. and not the socialism is somehow good, but rather that when we have unbridled capitalism and when the market are left to their own economy end up creating a huge division between

the wealthy and then we have a problem. >> it's interesting because i have been looking at the comments that have created a stir. they say that the catholic church has been one of the world's greatest beneficiary of money capitalism. >> catholic church, catholics, yes, of course. it's a huge state of wealth. including the vatican and any other city state and catholics have benefited and just look at those who came to the united states of america from ireland and italy and immigrants that have done very well for themselves.

a lot of financial help and aid, the first to provide to charities, there is another side to this argument. >> i would say yes and no. i think some people are using this to their own a this is the same exact document which meet certain urgent needs. then it goes on and says that it criticizes very strongly the welfare mentality and this includes employment and job creation that goes way beyond this goal. so this doesn't sound like this. he is criticizing a welfare mentality.

>> can capitalism and religion coexist? >> they have to. we know that every financial decision that a country makes, major decisions have moral consequences and there is a major decision and this is the amount of taxes that we are going to ask for. there are more consequences to that and that affects peoples lives. it is just one way forward. as long as it is regulated. and we have seen the consequences that was just popped up on speculation. >> how does this message played to catholics in the u.s.? >> i would encourage not only catholics, but anyone with good will to read the document

itself. i put it on my twitter and you can find other in other places as well. it's a very simple read and i have it right here, very simple, and i think it's very inspiring whether you're catholic or not. ashley: thank you for being here. we appreciate it very much. >> you can join the discussion from your living room at loudobbs.com for links to our facebook page and twitter account. up next, allen greenspan cause the economy dalen blames washington for holding it back. john lonski reacts to this fox business exclusive of the federal reserve chairman. we will have that next. r one fl. so i kn untilt was full. you'd be crazy not to. is tt nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.

ashley: consumer confidence falling to the lowest level since april. lower for the third straight month in a housing recovery showing stronger momentum

despite headwinds of rising mortgage rates. and in all rate of 1.3 million. the highest rate in nearly 5.5 years. according to the shiller index, that is a stronger gain since february 2006. and allen greenspan telling fox business that markets in washington are causing uncertainty in hurting economic growth. >> there is a huge uncertainty about the distant future. the economy will remain dull as long as that continues and the amount of borrowing or lending this by the commercial banks is going to be diminished.

the one joining me now to assess the comments is john lonski. thank you so much for being here with us. eighty-seven years old, still going strong, much to say about the economy. >> i would say right now the equity is overvalued between four and 12%, which we lose and that is the risk. >> what he said is that treasury bond yields. >> it's interesting. he said there are a lot of uncertainties looking into the future. and what is the outlook to your perspective? >> i think that the long-term outlook is significantly slower

growth in the 30 years ended with a real gdp and now we are dealing with the fast aging population and we have this new balance where we will be growing, retirees will be growing by more than 3% annually, less than 1% and as a result, long-term growth, head down towards something less than 2.5%. this is where you get your budgetary problems with the working age population versus rapid growing retirement population. >> they don't have enough money to actually retire.

let's face it, someone who is 55 years old and older doesn't have the same propensity over so quickly or proclivity as well. >> we basically have to be more competitive globally and that would help considerably. and we have to have better management and do a better job educating our young and we have to have a different attitude towards work and i think that we are a little bit too complacent and we don't press hard enough that we currently produce to innovate so that we have new products that can generate the wealth. the tax rates are a little bit on the high side.

and it seems that companies are hiring far too many people for compliance as opposed to people in the products. >> is a good point. we have an economy that's struggling, we have companies that don't want to go over a certain number of employees because of obamacare. how do we compete on the global platform when other countries have added this to their advantage? >> we have to develop products that the rest of the world wants. and we are hoping for something like that were a major breakthrough in terms of nanotechnology and making something that the rest of the world has yet to do that would go far generating employment growth. >> the psyche of the consumer. not that good of you are middle

class or lawyer, lower, probably quite good if you're an upper class american. >> the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. that's been the theme of the past eight years. >> thank you for being here. ashley: coming up next, new poll numbers providing that evidence. the "a-team" taking that up. hank sheinkopf, all of them are here next to talk about it. hmm. ♪ mm-hmm. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on yo wish list at the winter event going on now -- but hurry, the offer ends soon. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease the 2014 glk350 for $419 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer.

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california, a letter from city officials ordering them to pay.

co-owner says he has until tomorrow to remove that or pay a $960 fee and he plans to fight this and has issued a plea on his facebook page for support. and it shows republicans gaining ground, going into the 2014 midterm elections with a slight two-point lead 49 to 47%, with a generic ballot of congress. that is a 10-point swing from just one month ago. joining me now is the "a-team." jedediah bila, chuck schumer, christopher hahn, and hank sheinkopf. thank you for being here. and you mention this in a commercial break.

>> i think it does mean a lot because he will see the implications of obamacare and when you see this unfold, i think that it will have a really hard time. you still need to have a plan and if you do that, and you'll hold your ground. and then you give them this. >> not only that, the democrats had a horrible month statistically. >> the issue is the senate, the senators, the swing states and that is what the president has

accomplished. >> it's like, come on, guys, we really blew it. >> including states like that, north carolina, the problem is the senators are always most likely to get knocked off. in some states, the democrats are going to say, okay, we cannot allow these guys to do this and we can't let these guys in there and there is going to be this red carpet risk. >> it's a personal credibility when it comes to the democrats.

they listened to barack obama and echoed his talking points. they didn't challenge him and now they are going to be held responsible. >> they are out of step with the republican majority of americans. republicans don't want anyone to do this. >> is it out of step with the modern society? >> they appreciate the approach to h care. >> people want affordable health care and they don't care where they get it. >> they have not come together, but they can. >> the bad news is that i'm not sure what it is yet.

>> it is a long way to cost people more money. >> you know these guys, we all know these guys, there's a long time between now and the election ted cruz is doing his things. >> are they in line with what this country is about as a whole? >> economics, social issues, all of that. >> there's a lot of fiscal conservatives on liberal and social issues. >> i think it's why democrats look to candidates like rand paul. >> we are going through the time of hyper partisanship and some

americans say that they have had enough, just like the ones you describe and they are getting to that point. >> fortunately because of what is going on, some of those people are going to lose their seats in this election. >> this president is the complete polarization of the washington. >> he's made it worse though. there is a libertarian wing of the republican party. there's a number who reported things that they support like gay marriage. including people who support these things. let that play out. >> the question is how much more hyper partisan can you become. i mean,. >> chris christie is a solid

center. >> that is the only guy i'm worried about. >> you should go for it. thank you all for joining us. that is great stuff and thank you very much. that is it for "lou dobbs tonight."

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>> "the washington post" calls in the anti--hris christie. as resolute as the other governors. they both get their share of protesters, but this governor tends to more than reflect him. seeming to really enjoy engaging in that. long before chris christie was proving a bull in a china shop, scott walker was hardly dismantling that. the big guy talked tough and the other guy who is really not