whoever thought it would be slow week for the markets is dead wrong. we have a very, very busy week. a lot more to come this week. liz: we'll both be back here tomorrow. "countdown to the closing bell" starts at noon. adam shapiro for melissa francis. >> deadline day for obamacare. the last day to sign up to spend your money on the affordable care act but are you actually covered? all the latest developments. answers you need right here, because, you know that even when they say it's not it is always about money adam: as some are saying it is anything but the affordable care act. more last minute changes could mean more money out of your pocket. right now, consumers, myself included, we're totally confused. we need to know what it will cost and what we can get and whether or not we're even

covered. here to lay it out to enjoy a little piece over holidays. john fund and radio talk show host and fox news contributor, monica crowleyly. ben, let me start with you, you were at white house with business leaders, insurance industry people. what is the administration doing to decouple, it is so complicated. make sense of this. a lot of us are just lost. >> i was at the white house last wednesday with about 50 business leaders and the overwhelming feeling from everyone in the room was the confusion and then the costs that this is going to either cost individuals or their and i can tell you this. that the administration, the first word out of that their mouth was, this rollout has been a disaster and they're doing everything possible to try to get things fixed as they can. adam: john, let me start with

you. if the administration is calling the rollout a disaster where do we go from here? titanic? they will not scrap it or i would say do you scrap it but they're not doing that? >> they're delaying on installment plan. they do have a plan. they don't want to admit for reasons of politics and humiliation, they're delaying it. piece by piece everyone will be a hardship case and everyone will not pay the penalty. it is inevitable. adam: monica crowley talk likes to talk power, truth to authority. i thought we were sar castingly glorious leader bequeathed everybody a delay. when i heard there was delay, what are the mandates now? who has to sign up? who doesn't? how can do, insurance companies have to pay for this. how can anyone make heads or tails on this? >> yob can. i'm not sure the white house knows what is going on. insurance companies don't know what is going on.

i spoke to two doctors last week. they don't know what is going on. certainly consumers don't. thissis the 15th unilateral change barack obama administration made to the law without congressional approval. is any of this legal? we don't even know. here is the picture, we were correct it was always a frankenstein bill and more of a patchwork and frank stein bill. they're making ad hoc changes on the fly. we can all agree it is sort of imploding on itself. what i think they're actually doing. you're seeing a controlled explosion here because the ultimate objective was always get to us single-payer, ull-on socialized medicine. there are things happening beyond their control or maybe not on the timetable they anticipated but i guaranty you what they will say is, we tried the private sector. we tried going through the private insurance. we tried going through the exchanges. it didn't work. now we have all these people sort of locked into the system. we can't let them down. there is only one way to go and that is single-payer.

adam: ben, i want to ask you a question. i think administration did something mo american could ever do, make people feel sorry for the insurance industry. at end of the day if you don't get young people and healthy people signing up to pay for this it can't work and insurance companies take a hit. eventually those of us who are customers of insurance companies we will take a hit, will we not? >> that's a great point. just a couple of things on that.is, number one we're expecting some of the largest increases for small group insurance plans in the colling year in 2014. then let me tell you what we'll be talking about in about two weeks. all individuals enrolling in obamacaree they enroll through the healthcare.gov but pay the first month's premium to the insurance company. what's going to happen on january 1st, consumers out there need to be aware, is that the first time they get a prescription filled, first time they try to go to the doctor or take their family to the doctor, that is where they run into the problem. maybe they haven't paid the first month's premium.

two weeks from now we'll talk about all the individual who have enrolled and having props now accessing care. adam: john, do you think given what ben just said and monica talked about is the grander strategy for single-payer down the road? is that where this is headed? >> no, because i don't think congress would go there because obviously single-payer doesn't work in britain and doesn't work in a lot of other countries. i think what they are going to do is stuff the mouths of insurance companies with cash. there is something called risk channels this basically subsidizes insurance companies with transition costs. without going to congress i think they will take several billion dollars earlier next year and say to the insurance companies, look, tteat these people. enroll these people. adam: is that legally? >> excuse me. the courts will tell you in three years. they're very short-term oriented right here. if the courts catch up and say unconstitutional the money will be spent. catch me if you can. >> that is the point, i agree

with you a certain extent but not wholly. they have done everything out of the box, extra constitutional without congressional approval. there is nothing stopping this administration moving us to single pay other outside of congress. >> they would say to people, you know, you're enrolled. unless there is absolute proof you're not, you're on medicaid. they can, i would not put anything past them. >> ben, i think numbers, and i was getting confused as often happens when you're me during the press conference president was talking about different numbers, million people enrolled. 3.9 million part of medicaid. at end of the day i was looking what y employer was paying for my insurance. i don't see that coming down. several thousands of dollars i contribute but twenty-first century fox contributes a much larger portion. none of the affordable care act brought that down. that is not going to change, is it? >> again, like i said we're expecting some of the largest increases, higherrer deductibles, narrower networks. access to care after

january 1st, just those individuals that are caught up in the eligibility mix, you know, trying to enroll in the civil what we'll talk about. adam: i'm partial to monica crowley last word on all of this. this will blow up in january in the administration's face, isn't it? >> if the administration looks 2013 thinks this was a bad year because so focused on obamacare and all the failures we've seen so far, 2014 will be much worse. ben talking about employer-based coverage. that is the nextwave. january who people think they were covered are not actually covered. the wave after that, tense of millions of people losing their employer-based coverage. adam: this discussion will continue well into 2014. monica crowley, thank you. john fund, thank you as well. ben hambeck, all the best on the holiday. up next, one in five people still have not finished holiday shopping and it is because they're holding out for even bigger bargains. are they comeing? stick around. the "duck dynasty" storm rages on. supporters are coming out to save the duck commander himself?

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adam: the christmas countydown is ticking down to zero and you've got just about 31 hours left before santa comes acalling but surprising new stats show that a third of people are not even close, haven't even finished their holiday shopping. some are waiting because they don't think they have seen the best discounts just yet. in reality, how low can they to? joining us two of the three wise men. financial analyst, brian sasi and marketing mowing full bruce terkel. let me start with you, brian. 40% of the shoppers are ignoring emails and discounts in emails. i just deleted before we came on the air 20 e-mails, coupons from best buy, bed, bath & beyond, pottery barn. don't they get the clue? i'm not coming in. >> consumer are trained to expect more after discount. retailers are bombing your in-box. value the purchase differently. if they're offering you 50% off,

what is value in your life, 50% off. you want 57% off discount. melissa: adam: bruce, let me ask you this question because kevin roberts brought up, if you discount products you ruin the brand. are retailers shooting themselves in the foot with all these discounts? >> they sure are, brian said it. once you think a price is only a price until you fet a discount the price doesn't mean anything. there is no price value continuum. i will wait for 30% off. i will wait for 40% off. i will wait for 50% off. products do not have any value. that destroys brand values. adam: what will happen between this moment and tomorrow? are we going to see a rush of shoppers going in thinking they're getting even better discount and they will get the discount? bruce first, then brian. >> they will think so because they will not go into the stores without them. that is problem. become as self-perpetuating cycle. i will only shop where i get a

discount. i will go to the store where they give me the most discount. you have to get going. you will grab the discounts. that is why they were email bombing you by the way, they're hoping in the last moment you will be desperate, you will take discount and run. adam: brian. >> no dice. here is real deal. inventories continue to rise. rising second week. clearance going up, lord & taylor, gab, 50%. >> they have one month and a week to liquidate the inventory and bring in new goods to hope the sales floor is amazing much. adam: banana republic had 50% off. is it bettory wait until after christmas? why not wait until the 26th. >> that's what we're seeing. holiday season is elongating. no longer about giving gifts on christmas. they're going day after christmas for people not part of the immediate family. adam: would it make sense not to buy the good and say, buy the gift card, you will get a better discount on the 26th, go at

it? >> it would make more sense for people to enjoy the holiday. actually spend the holiday together. have spirit why you're celebrating and then prices drop. go in and get these incredible discounts to buy whatever it is you want. adam: looking at this from the national retail federation predicted 3.9% increase in holiday shopping. are we anywhere close to that or is that pie-in-the-sky, bruce. >> we'll wait and see. what happens every year, you hear all the predictions and people saying there are no more sales. there are lots of sales but when you know it is almost the hour and kids will be up and opening packages the question is, are you willing to wait or not. adam: brian, are people willing to wait? >> those predictions are completely out of this world. mr. market, to bring investing angle, mr. market knows this, average retail stock is down 7% since last friday. sears down 30%. jcpenney down 20%. they're worried about profits. stock market knows this. adam: sears and jcpenney were troubled long best holiday season.

let's get into statistics here. sales for friday and saturday were down 7:00% compared to last year. this has to worry retailers of the especially inventories are rising, not depleting that will be trouble. good for us consumers but trouble for retailers and their stocks. >> absolutely. one name i tweeted out exclusive for fbn, picture from walmart. rising inventories in seasonal categories. that is not what you're supposed to see. out of stocks in wrapping paper and lights. look for massive earnings warning from walmart in february. adam: bruce, might we see the discounting disappear because they have cheapened brands they have to rebuild them? >> that would be the smart thing to do. one retailer will get nervous. they will up discounts. others will fall into line. this would have to be mass movement. i don't see that happening. adam: i will draw that analogy detroit. detroit bankrupted two car companies by offering discounts because people came to expect them. brian, if we come to expect the discounts where we started this%

discussion, brand and product don't have value, how do we as consumers know truly what we're paying for? if we caught up to the game, giving me 20% off but probably markedded up 20% before the sale. >> consumers will wait for discounts and not shopping stores. they're getting lowest cost price, allison. they don't need to go to stores. reality they're one and done. they're not buying. not going to the stores. it is more expensive trip to visit stores and buy something on line. adam: mr. johnson at jcpenney tried to do craziness of discounting to cheapen the brand and he failed. does that mean we'll never see a store do that? >> he failed miserably and he is not in the job. stores will continue to do it. discounts are a race to the bottom. what is ultimate thing? giving products away for free. that's where they're moving. this is big problem. adam: brian and bruce, thank you

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adam:ties the season to be we're tenning you get back on for serious savings. keep lining with cash after cashing out on all the gifts. andrea warwick is a consumer money expert. we appreciate you joining us here. melissa will be back after the holidays. i could use tips saving money. one of the tips you've got, sell your old gadget. it is not that old but i could get money for iphone 5 i dropped a thousand times and run over? >> yes. a lot of people, upgrade their smartphones and their tablets, a couple of times over the course of a few years. so that means you may have old gadgets sitting around at home, believe it or not you can get cash for those old gauge gets. sites like gazelle.com, next worth.com. buy my tronics will pay you for

the old iphone, galaxy samsung phone, old tablets and old mp 3 players. go to stores like target and best buy to trade them in to get cards for the stores by redeeming old gadgets. at rapid repair.com, they will pay you for a iphone with broken screen. looking getting anywhere from 30 to $200 for those broken devices. adam: really? i might throw this one down and take it. >> yes. adam: seems like common sense but number two on your tip is pay off highest interest rate credit card first. that again, seems like common sense. why don't people do that? >> yes. well there seems like there are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off your credit card debt. some say, aim for the credit card with lowest balance. that will help you stay motivated and feel accomplished but ultimately if you head to the credit card with the highest apr, you will save more money over time. otherwise, just, you know what? pay double, triple the minimum due. a lot of people don't realize how much credit card debt they

have accumulated over the holidays. so first of all, get, understand how much debt you have across all those credit cards. understand what the apr is and how much you're spending in interest to really get a andle on it. adam: andrea, reach across the country and pat me on the head to say good job, i did number three. we no longer have a landline. just the cell phone. >> there are free service that is you can take advantage of and stop paying for some of those that there are free on shuns available like the landline. you can save $40 a month by switching to free internet telephone services like umatelo. you can nix the 15-dollars a month text-messaging bill and get free apps like tech free or chomp sms. get your friends and family to download it. comes to the cable bill, call the provider to negotiate. they're willing to haggle because they want to keep your business. could you be surprised, uncover $20 in your monthly bill speaking to the customer service representative.

if they don't help you ask to speak to supervisor. adam: i heard this one a lot. again maker brands are okay. i eat raisin brand, not the same when comes out of the generic box as opposed to cardboard with sugar comes out of more expensive box. why is that. >> there are some generic food brands or maybe a soda that comes down to your taste and preference but when we're talking prescription medication, speak with the physician and find out what generics are available. i was looking at zocor which is a prescription name brand for high cholesterol and monthly supply will cost you $175. the generic version is just $70 for that same supply, saving you $1260 a year. adam: suue. >> again, over-the-counter medicine, look for the store brand. looking at paying 30% less. cereal, 43-point% mark up on brands. generic are often manufactured by same manufacturers who make

the name brand cereal. if your kids don't want to eat the store brand -- adam: make them eat it. >> hold on to the name brand box. adam: that is trickery. pour it in. come back without sacrifice. i have done this on occasion negotiated with the cable provide, don't need the service. we'll give you this a month for free. what do you think? >> right. a lot of people think that when they have to save money they have to sacrifice but i'm telling you don't have to. if you are shopping at macy's bloomingdale's for instance, go to sites like gift card granny dot-com to pick up discount gift cards, save at bloomingdale's off to 19% off value of gift card. gift cards for restaurants, hotels, movie theaters. a great way to enjoy all the stuff. aaam: pottery barn, stuff on sale, go to manager, got a crack or chip, get additional off. we are out of time. >> exactly. all the stores are willing to negotiate. adam: to move producc. andrea, thanks for tips on

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twitter. it has to be tempting for a and ddt raking in those dollars, but does this mean it is time for the two sides to part ways? we will breakdown in today's money talker. let me start with you. you are a market analyst. this is that to be the most genius' strategy. >> there is no way this just happened to. >> it does not matter whether it is a conspiracy or not. you look at all the options that may happen, and you knew what was going to happen, who watched the show. people in new york do not watch this show. they knew this guy was going to say -- >> no, we are talking about the situation. after he made the decision to say that there was a conference that happened at a&e where that pr people sit down and looked at the options. this is gold mine. wash our hands of it and everyone will come to the

defense of these guys. adam: you think they told him to say it. >> i think they may have of wanted him to say something a little bit more controversial. let's get the facts straight. he did an interview with gq where he said a whole host of things that i cannot repeat on this news program, things that were very inflammatory. and then they did not fire him, they put him on hiatus knowing that they have this season in the can. what they did was get not just their own viewers to come to the defense of phil robertson, but all of us who may not have been watching before to talk about it. adam: go ahead. >> the problem is they have essentially stuck there finger in the eye of everyday american, secular person, black person. this guy is just a pile. [inaudible conversations] adam: there is lot of files stuff on television.

arts and entertainment. they get to say, hey, this is -ot good. the end of the day everyone knows the reality television, i have a b.s. they tell these people what to say. there is nothing real. these are real beliefs because of his religion and the bible. there are a lot of things in the bible. i can say you should still in your children to death because that is in the bible. when i get my own show? and not think so. adam: we will talk after this.

>> a lot of people have deeply rooted reliiious beliefs that are not unlike that of phil robertson, but there are those who have different interpretations. adam: no one is denying his ability to have religious beliefs. hold on. no one has a right to a television show. let me go. at the end of the day this is incredible marketing, but what is this show doing on a&e? i'm sorry. >> you are looking at me, so i knew. this show is doing the same thing that the others are. i mean, eight used to be art and entertainment. making money. that is the word thing about this. they did not hide these guys in a box. they knew what they were getting into. adam: these guys are not even true to who they were five years ago. it was a much different family. >> this is entirely orchestrated . you like and a picttre from five or six years ago and they are all clean shaven guys. there are not these long, your guys. adam: right wing extremists viewpoints. that is not real, and that is the problem. why not do a show --

>> all they have to do is write there hands of this. no, my god, this is horrible. as season in the kantor raking the money. all the people who sspport our buying merchandise. they get to collect all the money and not have this courage of having supported this. it. >> there are things i find disappointing as an attorney. so many people are confusing his right to a free speech and his employment with a&e. we know -- teeseven there are parts of my contract that say if i do or say certain things -- >> there are certain things that the governor was talking about, it does not protect the public outcry it but from government involvement in free-speech. the fcc did not come to a&e. adam: a&e holes the rights to this whole concept. a lot of people saying he has

had his first amendment right violated, there were very happy to see margin bashir on another network. >> but let's get down to the honest thing, just common sense decency and manage on television. what was so bad with ozzie and harriet? >> the ratings. 500 cable channels and the internet. i mean, you need to be more and more outrageous. adam: the key very much. i thought "duck dynasty" was a new restaurant when i first heard about this. thank you very much. ♪ >> thanks a lot, guys. >> merry christmas. >> it must be italian. >> at think ss fragile, many. adam: i have been to that house in cleveland, ohio.

you can tory. you may think they you have chosen the perfect present for everyone. in reality research shows that your version of a great gift can be worlds away from what the recipient once. here on how to avoid the biggest myths is harvard business school professor. thank you for joining us. this is something we all are susceptible. let's talk. if it is expensive it has to be good, but that is just not the case. >> absolutely not. we think in a minute before we need to leave and grab presence. what people want is a gift that says that we thought about them and care about them. sometimes it is not expensive, but meaningful. adam: when you talk about meaning, my brother who has studied happiness in applied psychology talks about creating memories, giving gifts that help create an event, taking someone you love to a show.

is that what we should be doing this holiday season? >> absolutely right. we often think, should give you something in a box that you unwrap. there is something there that i will give to you. we often don't think of giving people experiences like anything al gore movie. does turn out to be the things that make people happy. and we can get to go with them, get a free trip out of it ourselves. adam: this concept that it has to be unique. i really want to give something so special that no one else will get for you. why is that ms? >> i compare this to if you asked the waitress for a hamburger and she came back and said, now you asked before hamburger, but i think you really want sushi. you would say poor service, and yet we do it all the time with gifts. you say, no, i'm goong to get you something else like 17th ce

gift. i get what you are saying. thank you very much. harvard business school associate. i think that is a myth about gift-giving. happy holidays. >> you, too. adam: hollywood had its share of hits and flops at the box office. it is not over just yet. we have movies this holiday season. at the end of the day it is all about "money." ♪ [ male annocer ] e new new york is open.

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♪ >> it is almost a wrap. but before we say goodbye to a year full of flops and successes, this holiday season is bringing in a range of types of movies that are short take catch your eye. this film find it is in touch wheatley senior editor, and we welcome you. i am filling in for melissa. what is the big hit? and some are just being released this month. >> that is the big money maker for 2013. a little over 400 million. domestically over a billion dollars. that is a huge -- catching fire. adam: they were laughing. >> i loved it. that is number two domestically.

despicable me to which has been aahuge moneyyaker domestically and worldwide. movies like fast and furious six to one gravity. a great film. >> it may sell its money. talked about as we get closer. adam: the lone ranger, did it earned enough overseas? >> it made about 260 million worldwide, but if you think about how much it cost, how many million they invested, it was a huge flop. that one in terms of the percentage, it probably was not the biggest, but because it was hyped up so much. adam: well -- >> you think about iron man three. they are doing fine.

let's talk about hyped-up movies this holiday season. first, will fall of wall street. we will see it. why is everyone so into this? >> martin scorsese, leonardo dicaprio. it get slaughtered by then the screen actors awards, but it did give some nominations. he is so good. well, fair warning, you see a lot of drugs and sex and tucker's and drugs and tucker's together. lots of debauchery. the. adam: it is already out. i would like to see it. >> the hub it did better. waiting to see the return. look. you might have heard about it because they promoted it a little bit. it teeseven very quickly.

american household. it to win an oscar you have to get fat and ugly. >> he is known for fluctuating his weight. silver line. to compile the actors to have been either nominated or have one. they're all in the film and have been nominated. again, this is a great, great movie. i think he will win the oscar for sure. adam: stay classy. here is an idea. why not send

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