for being with us. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ neil: the election countdown is on. welcome, everyone, i am neil cavuto and a big midterm eltion year coming up. democrats and republicans better look out. a third party is gettingready and many states about time. >> you are just frustted? >> guesstimates crazy.

i don't think anyone fully identifies either party. they are taking the position that they have to be pure. neil: and ideological type of ing. >> exactly. i would love to see a third-party form. the parties don't hav to be perfect. up up up up up up up up. neil: are you setting up a group? why not? >> well, it's not even so much . it has to be something that you think about. >> i have ,000 things going on.

there was unity 2008, other folks have approached me. i am more than willing to listen. >> what you tink of those who who have initiated and been targeted by the erez? >> i don't look at these things. i'm not paranoid to say that what is happening on the republican side, im not buying it. honestly, i'm more on the side that it's not a scandal. because i think that goes to the purity. whenever you take something and you take on 100 actions, you can anecdotal lives eyes and create any kind of story that you want. >> therewas a pattern that. >> yes, there are muiple patterns. when you have 10,000 instances, it's the signal and the nose. you can find 100 an call it a pattern that it's not really one. but more importantly, i'm not trying to dismiss what anyone's

doing. more importantly, if you go out and you accomplish things, ifwe e going out there and congress is doing things, all of those things become farther and fall to the wayside. it's just that wh everyone has to be so pure in everything that they are doing, they like to victize themselves because it helps confirm their pury. i've been picked on as an example. >> you are a big suporter of the president? >> yes. i thnk that he is a very smart gu >> he is smart enough to understand and i've had a problem withim, but i generally support what he has done in a big way. but i think transparency is impoant. and i think we live in a time when there is so much technologicalopportunity we

really need transparency all thesepeople can do smart things neil: you are mr. internet star, you have your fortune and now there are signs of abuses. okay, so how do you see this? >> i don't see it as a big deal. i get audited almost every day. all of my foundations get audited pretty much everyday. most of my businesses get audited. >> will he have democratic and republic administrations alike? >> the business still has to compete. i start to do things. with the nsa, it's disappointing that we had to find out about it in the way in whi we did. but in reality, if you think that your mlbox was protected

and they couldn't findut what they wanted to and it was not nearly as much rivacy is what people would like to expect, particularly in a time where i would rather be protected. neil: so it is that bad? >> oh, yeah, it is that bad. neil: either hacking or websites shutting down, the latest wit inagram, so many others, "the washington post" and "the new york times." again and again. do you see a pattrn? >> you better believe it. every single digital asset that we have is nder attack. >> do you tink we are really under attack. >> snack of course. >> so there are chnical algorithms? >> imay well be. it's still under attack. and you have t keep your defenses up. so in talking about the defense budget. if i had my choice between

spending money on metal or digital protection, i will go with digital protectioevery single day of the week. if you look at russia. and there are conversations, with a warship, it is a situation whereit takes a number of years to build. all of the technology in the warship is already obsolete. and it's not gng to serve the purpose then. on top of that, if i want to destabilize the united states, do you think i will attack a port or an ally? or should i attack the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange? neil: so you think this is part of folks that have these intentions. >> oh, definitely. areou kidding? that is why i i am such an opponent of high frequency trading. i've talked to peoplein the administratiowe they say what they think the biggest threat is.

if i wantto destabilize the economy of the united states, i set up a fnd of trading this and then all of a sudden, i have a fat finer and make a i make a mistake knowing that it's going to trigger downstream 20 that event. neil: coming up, don't tell mike tyson this because he might punch you out. the former heavyweighboxing champion is here and he is anry. and regis philbin hasn't gotten his cell. it that is here to tell you why he isn't clse to being done with tv. and bill gates is putting some moneyhere his mouth is. ♪

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neil: america loves a comeback and mike tyson is trng to make a big one. not in the rain, but outside of it. explaining to me how he is going to do it. >> i am a good support system and it has to do with luck. i was the right place at the right time.

>> you only say that, and then you end up punching people. [laughter] >> it's like watching a train wreck, but people like watching it. so do you think that's true? >> yes, that is what this country breathes. they breed hate and violence. >> t you sai that beast. >> i look at myself and say, what was going on? i was really insecure about who i was in really insecure to be doing what i was doing and i was just angry and i was very angry. i had no and that was really proud of my accomplishments. no one that truly understood. and it's day by day.

>> we had a good sense of humor, he started lauhi at yourself and i think the were very comfortable in thatthey don't take yourself too seriously. >> yes, i had to allow myself to be part of that. >> that you are the part of that here. you know that fight where you are standing toe to toe, you look so scary. the would scare people right here in atlaa. we were showing on king and are you angry by their? >> yes, to this day i didn't realize it, i had no idea what resentment really meant.

and i'm pretty angry and i have a lot of resentment that i'm working on and i found out late. >> would you fin out? >> how much is left? >> i am so black and broken ugly. neil: you are definitely not broke. >> yes, i am broke. noquite broke like that, but i am broke. >> i can't buy a plane or bow like i used to. >> w look at all these people anything, not me. but aren't you a millionaire? >> i don't think so. >> i'm a mllionaire when i go to work. but after paying my bills, definitely not.

>> you wou e ring. you'vehaduld never do the george foreman thing and go back into the ring. you've had a? >> yes, if i was at that guy, you wouldn't be able to interview me. neil: what you think of evangene failed?. i wish i could still fight until i was 50 years old. neil: what do you want to? >> it's an inside job. i wish i could do it. i would do it at the drop of a dime. >> our people are still afrd of you? >> i don't think they have any reason to be afraid. >> doesn't help that they are?

>> no, i don't want anyone to be afraid of me. i'm afraid of doing something really scary, and i don't want anyone to feel that way about me. neil: can you do me a favor and just beat up bill o'reilly? [laughter] >> my family is so -- i man, there's no way they would watch fox business. if i put on bill o'reilly, they leave e room. but neil cavuto is the real deal neil: lookout, espn. ♪ mm. mm-hmm.

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neil: regis philbin? sports guru? espn is getting rattle regis is rmbling. rupert murdoch's latest plan to take over the universe. >> i he always loved sports. there were imes in my career over the years -- >> you did stuff before fox sports? >> yes. and we would always talk about sports on my talk show with my cohost and neither one of them would listen to me. [laughter] and they'd say, what ithis about. >> i'm wondering, you joke about yourself, an 81-year-old guy,

would he think of this? >> i think that it can be done. i hope it can be done. instead of just athles, we need entertainers in there as well. we have a guy coming up next wednesday on the show, bill cosby. o played defensive back for temple university. they are growing into a pretty goodootball machine. so all of a sudden on my notre dame schedule this year, it's the first game that they play and bill cosby do about as well. and i said, we have to get them on the show. hee flew down to philalphia to give the team a pep talk. [laughter] eil: you have a pretty impressive rolodex over the years. the president, stars, all o

that. neil: everyone says you et the reviews and it sounds so similar to the fox news experience. seventeen years ago. how different are they. espn ruling the roost. but does it bother you? you just move on? >> i haven't heard that yet. people are interested in seeing how we will approach it and what we willoffer for suort and everything else. >> you have a lot of these other issues as well. the new connections, you are a have connections as well. i otic that it's bigger wi your personality. is thaby design espn is a sportsnd events, it is about personality? >> i didn' expect to be working with five other people, but they

have put such interesting people in there. they have a great football player from the baltimore ravens, the nfl, two super bowls, and a terrific guy named trevor pryce. neil: anyone you hate they think will be a proble >> no, definitely not. they flew in a gal named georgie thompson from england. >> it's intesting that this country, its it's big one our kids are young and then after that, not so much. >> you are absolutely right. they are playing soccer an everywhereyou go as you drive around new yor city. and so the emphasis is definitely on soccer, and we talk about ievery day.

neil: it seems like you are a survivor. but you're a nice guy survivor. usually people survive and they have sort of an evil quality to them if they do survive. [laughter] il: you're a nice guy. you seem to just love what you do. you have a great ppssion in our >> thank you very much. i do love television. the. neil: that's the guinness book of world records and tv. >> it did become that. i never thought of it in all those years when i was at notre dame, nothing. but i as in the service and i would say it looks like fun but what can i do? i don't have a broadcasting

voice and i have no talent. so the day that i left, i was in the navy and i used it hang around with two older marines, two tough guys, they went in as private and they are now majors. but anyway, they said, what you want to do in your life now that you are leaving. and i said, well, you know, i would like to be on television. but i really don't have an talent at that. i look at these people on tv with great ators and actions of voices and he got to my face and said, don't you know that you can have anything you want in this life? you only have to want it bad enough. and do you want it. and i said, well, and he said,i

said do you want it. and i id yes, sir, i do. the irst time i was able to actually say that. [laughter] so one of m producers filled in for mike douglas and rogerwas there. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "fumbling around with rotating categories" card. it's not the etting blindsided by limits" card. it's the no-game-playing, no-earning-limit-having, deep-bomb-throwing, give-me-the-ball-and-i'll-take- it-to-the-house, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere, every single day. so let me ask you... at's in your wallet?

neil: out of all my interviews with bill gates, the one that you are about to see is the most meaningf and consequential. because he is worrying about the good that we do as a country, threatened by a paralyzed washington that is doing nothing at all for our country. bill gates has a few choice words for republicans are handing out foreign aid. >> a lot of it was not well

directed. and so sending money to people who are on our side versus their side, you know, that's what it was about. now it has become metric driven. can youiterally save lives for well under 1% and by saving ose lives, you avoid the kind of population growth and instability that leads to national security issues in countries like nigeria and yemen and if we let them tribble and population because we don't help with the issues, these are humanitarian and it really points to this, with one of the more measured parts of the entire budget. >> you would draw a line between

this and john kerry for the muslim brotherhood of egypt and criticizing that, saying that we don't kn if that is the case in wht used it will go to? >> that's right, getting into countries that are a ttle bit better off, the complexities, how do they view their relationship with the u.s. were we so entangled that there was a counter reaction that? what we are focused on what we have csen to take and the money that i have more money that warren buffett has givn, aids, malaria, the science part of that and a delivery part of that. that's when we say, this is so impactful and so wonderful that we will take her own mon and we will joan green in and be a

partner in some unbelievable programs on a regular basis. neil: your money appears to be impactful and your efforts seem to be impactful as well. i'm sure in no small measure. but the u.s. track record on this is kind of dicey and even global efforts after the disasters, calling into question whether money gets to the right recipientsand the haiti earthquake is always used as an example. the 2 billion raised by governments and private enterprises and the like and i was recently in haiti. unless i missed something, it is just disasters with famine and abuse as it ever was.

so that is whaworries me. so you wrote today that the number of children that are dying every year has gone to 8 million and those with extreme poverty have been cut in half thanks to foreign aid. i see examples where that's not e case. >> well, ait a mnute. you should've gone to haiti before the earquake. >> i did. >> it was a very tough place before the earthquake. >> a lot of the money didn't get spent, a lot of it did get spent to put things back to restoration. so there you are just making up for a huge setback and in terms of helth, where you get families to be more healthy, they choose to have less children and their the numbers could not be clearer. my money is in the same pot and it's a fairly small percentage.

the money from the foundation, this evening. an it's really under the bush admistration that this global health piece went from being a tiny piece of the budget to over half of aids and malaria and neglected diseases. and that is where we work and have expertise on and that is completely because we are in there looking at thenumbers all the time. >> i think smart folks, i think they would right away get it to u in right away through your foundation. because you do get a lot of bang for the buck. a fan of higher taxes on the upper income and the government doing more and spending more and when he had this, though, he chose to commit the money and

not to the u.s. government. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that we have three sectors, the private sector that is the biggest and is phenomenal. anything they can do in terms of the needs that people can pay. it's fantastic. and we have things like education or government comes n and philanthropy, it can be more innovative and willing to take far out science and new delivery programs. so there is a complementary role and so often we are taking this expertise and were talng about what we know and where we have a common vie. i am a big fan of philanthropy because it's almost like the venture capitalism of societal spending. sometimes we get teachers to

have more feedback and raise the average quality. it's not a typical thing that a government would do. so i really love all three of the sectors and i'm trying to make sure that the money is well spent and that is my full-time job now. neil: someone who has urged the government to do more and spend more, i guess he had achoice between committing more money and to pursuehese goals for you and he chose you. >> that is true. i mean, we need tound whatever activities we need to do. that includes the gap and how close the gap. and we would like to encourage philanthropy because in my view it has a good impact and each one of these sectors, we aveto

wake up and do better every day for the government. so how do you balance the budget, that is one of those big challenges and everybody has opinions about that. >> you are right about tha if i could go back to philanthropy itself and whether this higher tax environment, there's a lot of worries with a few charitable foundations. one way that we have hads whether we will get an impact is where we will have lasting contributions. do you worry about that? >> well, politically is very important. the u.s. is very unique in not only the scale but the breadth of it and it's not just them who give philanthropy and in some wa it's even more impressive that the non-rich are so generous in this country and if

you look at it state by stte, you're talking about 5% of income, where it's more like 2% else where in that the broad movement and we have very good ngo, certainly there cod be cut back their, although it coulbe deductible that is cut both ways. but what you want to do is find a balance between these important programs and, okay, and you'll have to pay for them at some poi. >> okay, so you think that we have that pror balance with the increases? >> i think that we are running a higher deficit than we would like in the long-term and there's a very important argument about shaking up the economy and how do you phase in that balance and in a sense, it

is a stimulus to the economy and wetill need that level of stimulus. including the medical costs. and it would be not to argue about whether the citizen pays or the government pays, beginninthe increases to be more in line with the economy, which they haven't been in a good that the government actuallyprotects those increases. so are there things that could be done to get more inovation on the cost reduction and they are, we haven't seen enough thinking and what i see about the medical stuff in poor untries is very suggestive th the efficiency side wod be ideal because then it is not zero-sum between citizen versus government. >> do you ever envision us, the foundation and the responsibilities and that it's

enough to keep you jazzing going for the rest of your life? >> well, i certainly miss this. i get to spend about 15% of my timen it. but my full-time commitment is to the fondation. i send my time on polio ratifion and with the partners, we hope to get that done. then we can focus on malaria and tuberculos and eating that down from the 7 million that it is now, even down 3 million over the next three years. neil: i think your friend warren buffett has said that they want to give it all away. and i'm wondering with her three children, have you told them this as well and if they are looking at a huge inritance that it's not coming? >> well, we talk about the vast majority of the wealth going to the foundation.

all his mon is spent within 10 years and not quite in the foundations and eventheir its our fondation and his children's foundation and its set up after we are gone, our foundation will spend its money within 20 years and, you know, our kids are excited about the foundation and they will get a great college education and some support as well. they are very lucky. >> i think that giving a kid hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, it's actually not good for the kids or for ociety. neil: suzanne s [man]ask me... [announcer] ...every wish for bed that could feel perfect under every part of your bod..

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>> are you guys neil cavuto fans? >> oh, absolutely. >> he looks good neil: no wonder. i am just waiting for suzanne somers to ask me to join her in the next fitness infomercial and she is joining me now, telling me that she has ideasto get kids healthy so they can grow up to look like me. [applause] >> you do not have to brin someone over the head. >> i think putting up fitness centers are great and having kids play, go outside and play. it's just wonderful. and i wrote a book about why we are obese and i think i have the answer. it's not how much we are eating, it's eating chemicals and liver in particular has no way to

process that, keeping this off and the more chemicals we take income and the more fattening things are and we store it. it's a never ending problem. neil: how old are you now? >> next week i ill be 67 years old. neil: oh, my goodness. you look great. >> i'm trying to be ageless, not younger than my age. but ageless. neil: me and you both. [laughter] >> sometimes it' not just what you eat. it could be hormones. what isthe deal with that? >> well, first of all, women are accelerating and aging now becse of toxins. neil: do you live with a woman? >> just. neil: do know what i'm saying

that there aren't days? well, some men with women that they mightsay -- yes, she is a little hot and she can't sleep and she ages and all of these things. it meanst you are declining in hormones. so if you have a maserati come you would never put subpar fuel into it. when oil is below the normal level, you would put the oil back in because otherwise you're going to run that car into the ground and the same thing with a woman. why not put back what we are missing when we decline in hormones. neil: but dctors don't see to do that. but how do people dothis? >> hormone doctors, we went to medical schools, all the best medical schools. but they realize that they do have limitations and they put this together with these kinds

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>> we want everything but their bank statements. credit scores, how we do it money, and then we will talk. >> it is not unreasonable. we can all decide what is most important in our lif be it looks or personality or even money. >> what is really critically important is a credit repor >> yes, that is right.

>> go aheadd. >> this is about compatibility. you won't be happy with someone who is a fitness person. whether it's leisure or health, we see people who are compatible. >> what you are saying is at this is part of compatibility. neil: think about what you just said. whether she has a good credit score or not, you think that says more about her than, oh, i don't know, decency? [applau] >> it says a lot about them. people that respect money also respect themselves, in my opini. >> if you're in love with money, then you are not in love with her. [laughter] two if you are more obsessed

th what she says about assets, she will be a pain in the asset to you. [laughter] >> its transitional. >> exactly. >> i you saw donald trump in 1991, his credit score was not that good. neil: exactly. you money grubbingfool. >> like i'm saying, i really don't think this is necessarily that kind of compatibility thg. the fact of the matter is that we are seeing a lot of things crop up, including before this, the sugar daddwebsite and the student loans. >> what about someone who has a nice smile? [laughter] >> i agree. but the fact of the matter is that people have the right to choose who they want to be with, whether it's with money or not, d i don't know, like i said, i think the economy has a lot to

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