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interest rates but the dice are loaded in your favor. >> rates could rise, that means you get hurt. >> stay warm. that's it for "forbes on fox." eric bolling and "cashin' in" the right now. it's the dirty litt secret controversial filmmaker michael moore saying obama care is awful and insisting america needs a single payer system instead. was this the democrats' plan all along? ringing in 2014 with 40,000 new laws? here's one. americans getting flicked off in one state it's a felony to flick your cigarette butt but flick off big government it doesn't end there. we'll all be paying the price. and then back to what jonathan -- break out the popcorwe put together some great clips. we take a look back and relive the funniest moments of the past year and oh, boy, you're going to enjoy this. "cashin' in," kicking off the new year starts right now.
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snoets sfloets. >> hi, eryone, i'm eric bolling. our crew wayne, jonathan, and welcome everybody. liberal like michael moore admitting the truth that obama care is awful and can't be fixed. that's not us saying it. it's him. moore saying the president knew in his heart that a single payer system was the true way to go. and now it's up to liberals to make it happen. michele, you know in your heart universal care is the way to go? >> it's not, but this is what they wanted all along. democrats were happy with obama care because they said, well if obama care works, that's great because it expands the government's role in health care but if it doesn't that's fine, too, because it opens the door to single payer system. and now that we know obama care is a mess, we're starting to see democrats talk about a single payer system just a few weeks ago, senator bernie sanders introduced a bill that would require states to set up a single payer system. this is definitely the route they want to go down. >> jonathan, you've been saying
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this for a while, haven't you? this has beens the plan all along? >> well, i haven't been sayin it. i mean obama's been saying it. sebelius has said it, hillary clinton said it, harry reid said it, that, you know, socialism, which is what single payer health care is, is their explicit goal. they've essentially established it, eric, because in obama care they've made health care a right. the gop to their great detriment never challenged that. you got obama care, we've talked about for weeks is essentially fascist. privatelied only owned in name only controlled by the government. just like student loans obama will say whave to cut out the middle man, the private sector, and make it completely government controlled, that's next. >> now, like rats off a sinking ship, michael moore's bailing on the obama care. how long before the rest of them, rest of the liberals start saying this wasn't such a good idea after all? >> i'm pretty sure that michael moore never liked obama care to begin with.
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now, i think if you look at where senior citizens are with medicare, which is a single payer system, most americans want a little bit of that action. so you say dirty little secret. it's only a secret becse the media has not been reporting on it. this is a step in t right direction. >> hold on -- >>bama care is a step in the right direction but what about a step -- >> the reason it's a dirty little secret it wasn't sold -- the long-term plan was going to be a single payer system, medicare, medicaid. >> it wasn't sold that way because president obama wasn't behind it, harry reid wasn't behind it, but very far people on the left wanted a single payer system, like me, i sa yummy, yummy. >> okay. >> and most americans -- >> hold on -- >> a little of tat -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> very good point. makes a very good point. on the far left they want single par, socialized medicine pure and centsimple.
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roll the clip of the various liberals talking about single payer and i'll get wayne to weigh in just after. >> if i were starting a system from scratch, then i think the idea of moving towards a single payer system could very well make sense. >> heavy lift to pass, i myself would have preferred single payer or public option. >> what we've done here with the obama care is a step in the right direction, but we're far from having something that's going to work. >> eventually you think we'll work beyond insurance. >> absolutely, yes. >> i'm all for a single payer system. >> i happen to be a proponent of the single payer. >> we cannot get to universal health care which i believe is both a core democratic value and an im perative for our country. >> all right. wayne, reid, sebelius, obama, hillary clinton all for a single yer system, how did they get this passed?
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>> well, eric, i disagree. i don't think this is a conspiracy to get to a single payer system that this was hatched as some kind of front running to get to it. it's too complicated. it's too -- to think this is a conspiracy among all of these people like nancy pelosi and them to get to a single payer system is giving them too much credit. we're talking about idiocy, ideological idiocy. these are people who want socialism, want all of that but they're not conspiring to get to it through this method. they're just dumb to get -- they didn't get there this way. now the fact that they're is logically committed to it, they're going to try like hell to get to a single payer system. is it bad for the rest of us? yes. look at the amount of waste and fraud we already have in the system. this is going to coit us to a huge fraud. >> go ahead. >> i'll answer that. it was passed because the right agrees with the premise of obama care, is that you have a rght to health care. so whether it starts as this essentially trojan horse of
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where you can keep your health plan, next keep your doctor, although your doctor is going away, so establishing the right to health care we know doesn't mean that you actually get health care. socialized medicine has failed in every place it's been tried to the extent it's been tried. it's why there's as many mri machines in washington state -- more mri machines in washington state than the whole of canada. that's our future under obama -- >> michele, i contend this was the plan allll along. i contend they saidlet's get this thing passed, we'll sell it on whatever we have to do, make it law and then we'll morph into what wereally want, single payer socialized medicine top to bott bottom, cradile to grave. >> absolutely. every american should be frightened by this because what it means is that other people other than yourself will be making health care decision for you. a bunch of bureaucrats will. that is dangerous. >> last thought. >> most americans want the insurance companies to have less control over health care and yes, they believe health care is
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a right. the most polar health care program in the country, let me finish, michele, the most popular health care system in this country is a single payer system. >> i doubt when a bureaucrat tells you that you can't get a surgery you want -- >> i opened up a can of worms at the end of the segment. my fault. i apologize. i have to gop. i'm very sorry. >> coming up, 40,000 new laws kick off 2014, hold on to your wallet.
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ja big government getting bigger in 2014 because 40,000 new laws and regulations are kicking off this year. in illinois, it's a felony to keep flicking cigarette butts on the grnd and also banning teens from tanning even if they have parental consent. california imposing new fracking restrictions and rhode island prehibiting employers from checking a job applicants criminal hibit. you say no matter where you are this will end up costing you? >> i mean, eric, land of the free. that means something. not just a bumper sticker slogan. it means your life belongs to you, that you're free in this country to make your own choices about the life you want to lead. all these laws are immoral because they essentially force you to act the right way instead of protecting you and your individual rights to act as you want. now some of them however are good. the ones that actually increase freedom like colorado's marijuana legislation. but all these other laws that force yoto support the bad public schools or for you into schemes like obama care, they're
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immoral and should be stck down. >> wayne, don't we have enough laws and regulations around here? we need 40,000 new ones? >> well, i think jonathan is on to something in the following sense. everybody thinks this is a do nothing congress. they didn't do anything. well they shouldn't do anything. the constitution was written not as a proactive document, the constitution is to protect people from their own government, from the excesses and when the government enacts all these laws they're fishing into our private laws, he's right, and we should get -- they shouldn't do anything. we don't need all of these laws. we need the behavior of the ople to be what they should do is by consent, then they do that right. you don't need this. >> let me throw up a poll and you can react to it. the poll, 72% say the biggest threat to the future of america, number one, by far, 72% say big government. then biness then labor. honestly, governmens getting bigger and bigger and under --
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in the last five years expanded dramatically. >> well, when it comes to big government, eric, this congress was actually the least productive ever, so maybe what we're talking about here is small government and it really is everything ha to do with the fact that states are more one-party dominated. so they are actually getting to implement their entire agendas. now, we are a nation of laws. i don't want to have these people be elected into office and then sit around as wayne says and do nothing. we're paying them. >> fair enough. put it this way, michele, let's take it -- >> whoa whoa whoa. >> hold on. >> i know where you're going. >> i can't --xcuse me, i can't let that go by like that. i'm sorry. but that's all wrong. you have a concept of government that is not in the constitution. you do not read -- know at you're talking about unless you read what it means and then i'll listen to you. >> let me bring it to michele and the point that -- i don't
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want to paraphrase you but here's an observation. it's better if the states make up their own laws and regulations rather than the federal government telling everyone what they have to do. we can at least live with some of these, right michele? >> yeah. but look, i mean, our country has far too many laws in general. i disagree, i think it's better if we have a congress not creating laws because we have too many. the scary thing is president majority of our laws right knew are not created by people who we've elected. they're not created by congress. many of our laws are issued through regulations that are created by a bunch of bureaucrats, nameless, faceless bureaucrats in american agencies. they don't care about the american people. their number one priority is their government agency and job. ta to me is frightening. that's scar >> let me bring this to john. what happens when you have a federal government that says marijuana is illegal and then states like colorado, washington, who say marijuana is legal or drinking ages or speed
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limi. you know, it gets a little confusing out here. >> well, i think it does. there's a lot of confusion in the law, eric, and a lot of bad laws passed because they don't actuallyespect government's function which is to protect individual rights, not pass laws and try to control its citizens. this is the land of the free. government should do a little bit to try to keep it that way. >> and wayne, what about it? if it goes -- i mean, didn't mean to imply because it's a state law relation it's better than if it's a federal law regulation. we still want government out whether it's federal or state? >> tt's true, eric, except it's closer to the people. it's like your local law. if you're in a condominium association you can influence it, small town you can influence it. when it gets so far away as the federal government, and michele is right, we have gone from being an elected free society to an administrative government where they're making up the laws as they go along. a perfect example is obama care and the dodd/frank act. they have no idea what's in this
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law. they're making it up as they go along. we've become a nation not of laws -- >> it isn't free. >> quick thought to jamoot, when you live in new jersey and don't like what's going on you can move to new york, connecticut or somewhere else. when it's a federal law you can't move. it's yr country. >> well, i think as we're seeing with marijuana law, the states are taking control and this will go across i think all of the states. now, there has to be that balance. that's the federal government provides and we saw that in the civil rights movement when states do bad things, the federal government does need to check them. >> last thought couple seconds. >> what i was going to say was that look, this is a bad thing. we shodn't have more regulations. this costs money. this costs businesses a trillion dollars a year having to comply with all these regulations. >> we have to leave it there and say thank you to jamoot for joining us this week. get ready to have fun. we show you the funniest moments of the show of the past year. "cashin' in" bringing the fun next.
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joy. twins born on opposite sides of the new year. we'll talk to their parents and have all of your top stories at the top of the hour. stay with us. all of us here at cashin' in are pumped about 2014. maybe we're excited because of our 2013. no questions were off limits, and we got answers. we also hit the streets and talked to you about the biggest
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stories, neither rain, sleet nor freezing cold stopped us. we dug our heels in to dig up the dirt. we asked you what was important, and you didn't hesitate to tell us. and in the midst of discussing all of the serious topics, we ill found time to have some fun. take a look. cashin' in crashing the party. >> need that new health care. ♪ sign up cuz it's hot >> eric, all drugs, especially pot, should be legal. >> that better not be pot. >> whoa, whoa, whoa! >> i'm cold here sitting in the studio. that's why i've got my hat on. >> you all dared me to wear this garb so you did it. >> i'm not letting you away with it. you begged us to let you wear that hat. >> the government can't even get it out of its mouth. >> shut up a second. >> i'm a libertarian. >> what? what? >> what? >> privacy rights issues. >> i've got to tell you something. >> you can't say that!
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you can't say i'm a libertarian and i'm okay with this. >> excuse me, excuse me, juan. >> i'm going to be eating a pizza a day. i'm going toen eating an entire pizza every day. >> eric, you remember fast and furious? well, i got a new program called slow and stupid. >> i almost didn't recognize you were wearing spock ears. you are, right? >> no. this is just my normal ears. >> there was a woman here, my makeup person. >> this morning in the make chaii was talking to the makeup lady. for example, i talked about the makeup lady. >> speaking of one of the world's sexiest men alive, wayne, your thoughts on this. i know your makeup artist the last couple of weeks has weighed in. >> with the fox credit card you're not buying wine,opcorn machines and pornography, are you? >> no, no. >> shut up a second. >> jojonathan, you've got to len to be quiet and let oer people speak. >> just go out and get ourselves adopted and we'll be part of the fun. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. >> i would adopt you, wayne.
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>> we're going to have to leave it there. juan's going to adopt wayne. i can't imagine that household. >> i like it best when he's drunk. >> good lord, whatas this show come to. >> jonathan, two wrongs don't make a right. >> you're convoluting the issue. >> couldn't end the show without wayne scolding jonathan. >> we've had such a great time. wayne, you were a ball all year long. you scolded jonathan a bunch of times, didn't you? >> oh, yeah. i had a good time. i'm still waiting on the adoption papers, by the way. >> juan will adopt you. jonathan, we had fun. you brought out the props, joined the glass of wine, a pizza. what's next? what can we look forward to in 2014? >> it was such a great honor to drink and get high with you the whole year long, eric get scolded by wayne. what a terrific end of the year. what an honor to be welcomed into so many homes not only on tv but also online. we're going to keep up the focus
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on ideas. that's what powers the world. i just love spending every saturday morning with our crew. >> that's really cool. before i go to michelle, though, jonathan, why does wayne always tell you to shut up? >> i don't know. he usually ends up agreeing with me anyway so he should just listen to me from the upshot. >> michelle, you came into this mix about halfway through the year. what a great addition to the show. we've loved having you. your tughts on 2014 how much fun we're going to have. >> oh, we' going to have so much fun. we obviously are the best show. we turned juan williams into a libertarian. >> that was probably the funniest moment of the year. we kind of all fell out of our chair. wayne, we'll leave youith a couple last thoughts from you. >> as i said before, i'm still waiting on juan's adoption paper. if he's going to adopt me, i want it done this year, as soon as possible, because i want to be part of his health plan. >> right. i think he's promised to provide you with some obamacare as well. we'll leave it there. >> exactly.
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protecting ourselves against rising interest rates. i think that's true. you have to stay away from the bond and affixed income and go back to equities. i think it's a good year for that. i want to spread my risk though so i'm taking iwo, t russell 2000 etf for small cap stocks. >> very quickly for 2014, higher or lower than where we stand at the end p of the year right now? >> i think gearing to be higher than we are right now, but we're going to go through a period here in the spring that's a little iffy. >> jon, your pick for the week? >> well, i like aluminum. along with coffee and cotton and platinum, to me aluminum is a commodity that actually really makes sense. there's an exchange traded note that tracks the spot aluminum. foil could pop. >> love these commodity calls, jon. quickly, higher or lower? >> for stocks i'd say liar. for bonds i'd say much lower. >> that's it for the cost of freedom block. thanks for joining us. before we go, duck dynasty
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tarting the year with a bang. they're releasing their own gun line, this move by the cast of the show symbolizes what we're all about. they're pro-capitalism, pro see you next week. jeff: jeff flock here. >> this week on across america, we go kayaking and fishing with one of the wealthiest and most successful women in america. >> we take an inside look at america's most storied office furnituremaker. what happens when a 300 pound person sits on a miller chair for three years? this machine is finding out. wenveiled the newest and fanciest outlet mall in america and get the wisdom of the visionary who started building it in the worst recession in
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