neil: good evening, if he can't get congress do work with him, the hell with him, but this time president of united states plans to tell them that to their face, in their face, in their house, he is using tonight's media moment to deliver the grand old party, a hike in minimum wage, 40%, to announce he is raising en relevel pay for future federal contract workers to

$10.10 an hour. it is pretty clear that white house is really doing this more for maximum effect, putting onus on republicans, for not doing more to bridge a gaping inequality gap. all front and center for a white house that had it with playing nice. get ready for fireworks tonight, we got you covered with mitt romney, who says republicans should be careful how they tread, rick perry said the heck with that. time for republicans to raise holy hell. and doug wil wilder on whether any side is getting anything done. and ticked titans. scully fears that businesses could get crushed with some things that president is proposing today.

and then, all things alcohol. then from up north, toronto mayor has a higher approve rally rating than tory president? conrad black, is ready to reveal the mayor's secret here. only here. we'll show him later. to rich edson on what to expect from president's big speech. >> when you look forward from here, president calls this a year of action, said where congress does not stand ready to cooperate with him and pass his agenda, he has a phone, and a pen, a pen to sign executive orders. the one today, raising minimum wage for federal workers, he hits road after this to sell his other policies, and other actions that president might take we'll see in the state of the union, one that a number of

folks that are privy are not expecting too many new policy proposals, this is is a year to go after base for democrats and republicans,playing it safe. in congress we're not expecting major initiatives to make it past congress. republicans have responded to much of what president has been saying about the state of the union, he stands ready to work beyond congress through executive orders, they stand ready to make sure that the president is not abusing his authority. a number of republicans have already suggested the president is abusing his authority in the changes he made without congress when it comes to obamacare. and scene setter, congressman, and chief justice, and members of supreme court, and vice president coming through. we're in stat hall, old house chamber, we will be walking into new house chamber, mid 19th

century, lawmakers have to be if their seats within the next half hour, we'll see the parade forward, then we discussed earlier about those lawmakers that have been staking out seats on the main aisle, they placed newspapers and briefcases marking their spots as early as last evening to get that handshake shot with president obama. expected to be about an hour or so, adding in all of the applause it could go longer. neil: all right, rich, we're getting ideas of what we'll hear. president expecting to say, some of the proposal require congressional action, i am eager to work with you, america does

not stand still, and 92 ter will i. -- ni ter will i am tomorrower apple ceo john sculley how that sounds to him. >> i think that presidents are supposed to talk about big themes this president is getting smaller and smallerr minimum wage is a big deal to the person who is makings there are sense 50 a$750 an hour, in terms of focussing on a big theme like improving middle class economy, that president created worst piece of legislation with obamacare in terms of impact on employment. it has frightening off employers from hiring permanent employees. neil: tonight he will say, people who can have coverage, the poor now have it, how is that going down? >> i don't know how that will go down, but i think message that

country wants to hear is about creating real jobs, create jobs not by government. by creating growth. energy independent, we could great trade agreements in world, be able to accelerate a lot of our economy, seem out of regulations we have. these are things that president is not going to talk about. >> maybe, he down scaled. i was going through 2013 promises he wanted a new jobs program, he wanted sweeping immigration reform, that did not go any where, he wanted sweeping financial reform to follow-up from original. that did not go anywhere, so maybe he just taking -- >> maybe he doesn't know what he doesn't know. maybe this president because he never been in the private sector never run a company or made a payroll, in a private company, he does not realize jobs don't

happen by edict, they happen because you do things to grow a business. neil: he said it has been happening, job situation has been improving, we're not off to races we're off the matt, that argument that trend is his friend. you say? >> he using his own stativityics, one of my companies track attempt rare workers we've seen number temporary workers has grown from 2 million, 3 years ago to 4 million tem temp workers, 3 out 4 jobs, 3 out of 4 jobs are temporary workers, why? because the permanent jobs are not there. because the employers don't want to take on obligation of the additional healthcare expense. there are things like this which president does not realize, there are derivative affects, you do thingies to take care of special interests, it makes

derivative affects in the economy. neil: i know you are departed from apple, a big hit in the stock today, disact appointment with number -- disappointment with number of iphones sold. >> it is a problem for samsung and apple. carriers normally allowed people to turn their phones in before their 24 year contracts were up -- two year contracts up, they changed their policy, that hurt anyone selling a smartphone. neil: in adoe about nothing? >> i will make a predict tonight, that, apple ssock will be right back where it was, and i suspect that tim cook was going to have something up his sleep sleeve. -- up his sleeve. i am hoping mobile payments.

with 600 million registered people on uopportunities. neil: john sculley thank you. >> pat roberts said one thing we seem to be forgetting is that benghazi. remember that? he thinks that president has explaining to do, senator. it might come up, does not look like from a lot of telegraph texts that it will. what do you make of that? >> i don't think it will. i made a suggestion, i urged him to take a couple of minutes out hid statef tnion sh, acledge i take respbit, tell the americane wha tk wents hasee gng on ong. e 4ilies wng, and icaaitinggesthing rines, kw ifas in rm's w, sebod my ba today'mot sur it may

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>> thank you, neil. neil: a lot more coming up, texas governor rick perry on president downplaying a health care disaster and mitt romney on president doing more than that. >> that promise he made about keeping your insurance he violated, he knew it at this time, it was dishonest that is something for which he should apologize profusely. neil: you think he did know at the time, which you think he lid. >> no question. we asked people a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going have to rethink this tng. it's hard to imagin how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 3years or mor

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neil: 45 minutes away from barack obama, another state of the union address. big executive order, hiking minimum wage for federal contract workers, that is the incoming federal contract workers. what is in question, how many this affects, but governor of texas knows this is for affect, you worry about the sort of pattern he is showing here, right?

>> well, neil, thank you. good to be on your program. you are correct that is just common sense basic economics that when you force by central government edict minimum wage increase someone has to pay for it whether business or a consumer, someone is likely to lose a job out of this, lower income individuals are those who will get hit, businessmen and women hate federal government telling them, here is what you pay your people. and economics and any economist, worth their salt will tell you forced increase of minimum wage will create lost jobs. neil: you know president will quote his own economist tonight. saying quite the opposite, all this bemoaning that comes every time they push that hike of the wage unite mayors never come to

pass, we all move on, and workers move on, what do you say? >> well, you are correct. the bottom line is that if you want to create jobs, whether it is low income jobs or high, texas is a great example we led the nation 250,000 jobs created in the last year from december to december. it happened because not that we were mandating the minimum wage or any wage, we were doing is freeing up those entrepreneurs with good, thoughtful tax policies, regulatory climate fair, and log legal seeming and funding public schools, get out of the way, and let the private sector do what they do best, the laboratories of innovation, those 50 states, the ones that are performing well are the red states, those policies, if this president would embrace them, put them in place, and free the

states up to be the laboratories of innovation, america would take off. neil: it is fair to say, unless there is a complete head transplant that is not going to happen. you have a good story to tell, in texas. a lot of people say, maybe your maiden voyage to presidential waters was a little bit bumpy,,3 you are back in 2016? true? >> i don't know about that. i have another year of gov everyoning the state. and making sure that we create that climate, where more jobs can be created, 2016, is way down the road, 2014 is important elect cycle to focus on, and takeover senate, then we can have conversations about letting the states be the laboratory of the innovation, if we get a president who really respects the states and frees them up, this country not only will be happier, but will be more prosperous.

neil: chris christie? what do you think of him and his problem. >> all governors in out there, red and blue, we have to deal with issues we get faced, chris is doing what he needs to do to gain the confidence of the people back in new jersey. >> is he doing that? his poll numbers are plummeting? >> i think he is, he knows what his job circumstance the issue, if he -- job is, if he is telling the people the truth it will come out and he will be fine. neil: thank you, governor. >> thank you. neil: former virginia governor doug wilder joining us, looking at how either side could get to talking with another. there was a time they did that, in virginia, they did it just fine. that was then, what the heck is happening now? tv powered by co?

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>> what are you hoping to hear from the president? >> something different from the past. >> answers and solutions. >> foreign policy. >> more about what they are talking about, raising minimum wage situation, and more about obamacare. i'm not sold. >> country is in bad shape, he needs to do something for us. neil: you know, a lot of people on right, and other said sort of tone deaf on this stuff. among home we hear from white house are issues that come up they want to pound tonight raising minimum wage. extending unemployment benefits, pay equity, fairness for working

women, greater access to child care for working moms and world peace -- i just added that one. these are feel good issues. doug wilder is joining us. governor, they decided let's pivot, going back to issues we think resonate with americans, first inequality issue even though the gap has widened under this president. he is going to go back and mention a generational theme that the government has to try to reverse. >> i think unfortunately the republicans and democratic leaderships, missed the one thing you brought up, that is who are they there for? they are there for the people. and how can the people understand which you are doing if you don't explain it? how can they want their representative to support what you are doing if you don't fully explain it? one thing i understood, neil, is

that pocket book issues mean a lot but then you have to explain those issues. whether raising minimum wage or healthy care or keeping as we got them now. the question is, explain it so that the american people know what you are talking about. you can never make it with each side going its own way, there has to be some meeting of the minds, all of your groups tell you that people are getting sick and tired of all politicians, good, bad and ugly. neil: do you think this is bad timing on part of president with an in your face, executive action-type tone, when say what you will of congress, it has act we esed on not shutting government down, some thi into this environment he throws a

grenade. >> i would say most people have come to understand, if they don't already know, that the state of the union message does not really describe the state of the union. that to extend people their own ways of determining how bad they are, and they will lit their representatives know, they will let you know, having said that, the question is, when are those issues going to be addressed? this state of the union is speech is made today. the president is going to go to 4 different states. is that enough, the answer is no. there has to be a continued announcement of clear, intentions to the public by both sides. neil: i don't see it you know. >> i don't either. neil: american people are like, my attended italian family, they keep hearing, and say, both of

you, shut up. >> i agree with you. they are not saying shut up, they are saying shut up or do something more than have you done. and to extend that harry truman called it a do nothing congress, the america people are not saying that about any particular party, but everybody, including the administration, and former politicians like myself, they are losing confidence. can we change it? yes, by being honest, and being forthright, and able to reach across the aisle and as lyndon johnson would say, reason together. neil: not bad, here i thought you could not relate to italians, and you just did it. >> thank you all right. thank you very much my friend. neil: next, what happened today that got mitt in a big old snit . >> news like this might drive

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>> here's a great the great thing about being the president of the united states or it he has this big speech and a half hour and he is still at the white house. never to worry about traffic and your president of the united states and he is taking his time. it is the same thing. you control the clock and you are never in a rush. every once is the same thing about what a mess, not having to

deal with traffic. flexing his my muscles, to hear mitt romney kellar earlier today >> i think is going to show some kind of an agenda, even if it's something like this come it's probably pretty modest in terms of the number of people affected. the issue comes down to the minimum wage and this is something we should work with them on. neil: would you be open to raising a but not that level? >> my view is that we are wise to take the minimum wage and link it to the cpi inflator or some inflator of the cost. the reason i say that is because every few years this comes up again and the democrats parade around and say that we should raise the minimum wage. and in the eyes of the american

people the republicans always come off as being the ones that are not being kind to those that are working class citizens. and that is the wrong thing and we should link it to the cpi and take it off as a political issue. neil: so depending upon the polls, more than half of americans increase on favoring it. so do you think of that would include boosting it to the level the president has proposed north of $10 perour? >> that sound like a hefty number. of coursthe ar ithatf yoraisa inim wa o mu, whynot $2 n hour. people would say that the celebration and people will make a lot of money. the prices will go up to account for the new prices of labor and the net effect will not be any positive improvement for the lives of people who thought that

things will change for them. the right course is to keep the minimum wage in line for inflation. have we laid it to inflation? over the years it would be just about where it is right now, probably a little bit lower, but just about where it is right now. neil: f texas ha is all power p. but he really thinks it is incumbent on the president's night to apologize to the nation for the health care rollout in the debacle it has become. do you think you should do that? >> i don't think that he will apologize. no. but i do think that for him to take this piece of the presidency with the implementation of this that millions of american people were not just inconvenienced but put in the very difficult position and this is an extraordinary breach of his responsibilities

as president and is something for which he obviously has to take a laudable aim. an even bigger than that i know that we have focused on the implementation and ultimately that will get fixed despite all of the pain that it has cost people in the real problem is that the president promised the american people time and again that they can keep their insurance if they wanted and they can keep their doctors if they won it. he has violated the insurance and he knew it at the time and he was dishonest and that is something that he should apologize about profusely once you think you i'd? >> well, there is no question. i don't know when he began to know it. but during the process of obamacare's implementation and legislation was brought forward in congress saying let's make sure that people can keep the insurance that they have that was brought forward and it's something that the democrats supported. the president and his staff understood that this was not owing to be possible for people to keep the insurance that they

had. he knew this. it was dishonest to promise one thing knowing that he could not fulfill that promise. neil: jay carney was saying yesterday, governor, whatever bumps the health care rollout is having are similar to the bums that you have in massachusetts when you're rolling out if a health care program. that invariably this is the white house saying that this is romney care on a larger scale. bumps along the way. but no doubt we will honor find these out here. what do you say? >> there are two things and the administration wants to talk about the implementation and the so-called bums. but these are real people whose lives have been seriously affect it. so will those be ironed out? yes. sure. and by the way we instituted our plan in massachusetts piece by piece and we rolled it out group by group so that we didn't have the kind of mess that has been created in washington and around

entire country. but there is a second problem that the white house does not want to talk about that we should talk about day in and day out. that is the promise that you can keep your insurance if you want and your doctor if you want your doctor. people are learning those things are not true. that is not going to go away. the penalty of obamacare will continue not just in the implementation but once it's implemented the american people will see their premiums go up and many will lose their insurance policies that they wanted to keep and the wobble lose their doctors as well. this is an extraordinary breach of the promise the president made. neil: tom delaney, the former house majority leader said we should not help them in any way fix the and just let him get stuck here and have to deal with the fallout from this. but he does not believe the republicans should fix this and they should let die. what do you think? >> i think as republicans would do everything in our power to

help the american people. i don't believe that the president will let us fixable kind of a mess he has made. whether or not that can occur, my own view is that the right course of action is for obamacare to be repealed and replaced and there are a number of republican senators who came out with a plan of replacing obamacare with what i think is a program that on the face has the advantages that people look for in health care reform and not the disadvantage of the higher taxes and the individual mandate. looking at improvements that let people do what they would like to do. keep their doctor and their insurance. neil: the president is now just leaving with about 20 minutes ago. he is just leaving the white house right now.

so apparently michelle obama is ready and there are two or 300 security related personnel that they take with them everywhere they go. so he is on his way to the capitol to talk to the nation. after family will have coverage giving the official republican response. senator rand paul is going to also get his own response and i'm not missing the fun. i'm going to give the italian american response. [laughter] neil: can you believe this

neil: you are looking live at capitol hill.

i believe the normal order is the house coming first and what is interesting is that there are not enough seats for all 435 house members. because the senate has to share this body today and 100 of them get priority. joe biden sits behind the president of the united states. so it's first-come and first served a lot of those representatives and who knows better than this whole,. it is always a pleasure having you here. how does that work? and i guess if you can't get a seat you can certainly stay but you have to stand. and there's a few select house members that have assigned seating. that is always the case.

neil: if you are in majority leader as you are, you already get a seat. >> for 10 years i stood by this. i got there early. neil: i want to ask you in all seriousness responses that we are getting. i know that the official republican response will be delivered and i know that mike lee wwlkie of the tea party response and rand paul also had his own response. have you seen anything like that before? >> no, i have not. i think it is a serious tactical error and i don't know why the house and senate leadership have allowed this to happen. one thing they should ask themselves is why would the networks willing to carry through responses. neil: we are not. we are going to go to the official responses. so we are not willing to

acknowledge this. but it is weird, isn't it? >> it is weird and it changes the subject. the obama presidency was floundering. president obama is going to try to defend the indefensible tonight. and they have given those networks with a hostile point of view to change the subject and do at least part of their broadcast within the split of the republican party. a serious tactical air and one that tea party repeatedly makes. they did it with a government shutdown or not they are doing it again. it really distresses me i love mike lee and a very able person and i want to say don't you understand. neil: you mention that. there must be a ho going on.

when he mentioned that it was very audience that he was not mentioning rand paul or ted cruz and is that just a vitriol reaction to the tea party or those that go against the grain? what you think is going on within your party? i have been connected to a lot of these guys. but their tactical judgment is so bad that they repeatedly result -- bill bennett used to say you are either moving the ball on them or moving the ball on you. they keep causing our team to fumble the ball backwards. including opposition to this

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neil: a live look at the futures markets right now. the dow jones up today. first up day after creating about 4% on the year. people were getting a little relief today. the nasdaq and s&p, it's way too early to tell. and asia market reaction will be looked at. do not think that they are not looking at what is going on. all of the spying that has been happening here. a big issue with governor tim pawlenty who was hoping to hear the president and provide him this. the governor now has the financial services roundtable and that has become a very hot topic among the a lot of financial institutions that could get stuck with it a bill. it is good to have you and we are told that the president will

announce that it will not be a dominant theme. >> good evening. we understand that the president has put a lot into this speech. but as he rings the order. these issues are we better start taking seriously. the president has done good work in this area so far and a lot more needs to be done. he deserves more attention. neil: we keep seeing these attacks and a lot of retailers over the last few weeks. and banks ultimately foot the bill for that. they absorbed this as well. there'll limit? >> it can take many different forms. news reports indicate that the breach occurred inside of the eternal system. many times the banks are

responsible for eating out. eating that fraud. it can go way beyond the card fraud. they can go into data manipulations in the transportation sector in aviation and also much more. neil: the senate is now coming in and cabinet officials are coming in. most of the joint chiefs of staff are coming in. the one cabinet mender will not be joining him. a lot requires that one cabinet member not join the group. so governor, i wonder what these cyberattacks that we have seen those are major that are major and those that are minor by comparison. they are setting the stage so what do you think? >> there are a lot of tabletop exercises and you can imagine this and you hate to see

identity theft and that is very mexican. but what if someone was able to shut down a power plant or the power grid or control lock and dam system. neil: as much as the first world trade center would view this as a failure, we know later on it will set the stage for something far more horrible. previews for that?eing now are >> one category is commercial espionage and eight sponsored entities and malice towards the united states or others that would like these cyberattacks to do damage. i do believe that we are only at the very beginning of what is going to be a long contest of cyberdominance and control to have cyberdestruction and that is why it is so important that

the senate passed legislation to try to improve our lives and upgrade our laws in this regard and to do it as best as they can because the defense is up. neil: we will watch closely and it's always a pleasure. >> thank you. neil: here is a differentiator. we also get the view from the business community and john sculley. lately it could actually come in very handy tonight. we will explain everything after this. >> you think you are better off now than when the president took office? >> no, we are not. we really need to get on board with what is going on in our country. i ys say be thman with the plan

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but they are still a big deal. the president, 33 million people watching and nothing like back in 209,155,000,000 had a chance to see the first african-american president addressed the bill of the house. we are seeing prominent members and the obama family arriving. before we get a read on what they wanted here tonight, including a real estate and publishing man who has made a lot of people drunk with petrone tequila. he has also made people happy with a number of hair care products. welcome to you both. you suddenly broke ranks with this administration and the disappointment among progressives in this country. saying that there wasn't enough follow-through providing good examples of leadership.

how do you stand now? >> if anything i think the problem is worse than it was originally when there was a lot of aspiration and hope and anticipation that he might be a different president. i believe that particularly once obamacare broke apart and we all saw what was involved in this administration and the level of incompetence. i think that it lost a lot of confidence in him and he saw the polls where his approval rating drop below 40% and it was in the high 50s for his disapproval rating. it's a very difficult thing to leave the country. but he has very poor relations with the congress and you cannot do this business of this country unless you begin to wrelationshd congressional support. in one sense he has lost the leadership of the country. neil: the supreme court is now being ushered in.

as you know judge samuel alito, i don't see him mad. but they all make it tonight. a point that was mentioned about whatever disappointment people have with the president, he can turn things around tonight and in doing so by the way of executive order and fiat is the way to do it tonight. what do you think? >> i think what i would like to hear the president say is that let's work together. those that have minimum wage that have wanted a one third increase. let's work together. let's let everyone know that we will get a one third increase to $10 and let's put it together and work together and tell our employers what we will do to make their businesses more