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teams. it will be terrific football. the best place in the world to watch it, right here on fox. what more can you ask for? liz: chief land browns. david: i knew that was coming. liz: "money" with melissa francis is next. have a great weekend. melissa: as you gear up for the biggest sports weekend of the year, college athletes across the country are facing a big change of their own. will ncaa sports become unionized and at what cost? we have a student in the middle of it. plus pro athlete reaction because even when they say it's not it is always about money. melissa: since we're celebrating sports this weekend we're starting with one of the biggest stories in the sports world, one could impact big money. should college athletes be unionized? it is a huge national debate.
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we'll break it down to see what college athletes and pro ballers think about it. we're hearing a voice from college. greg is a ncaa lacrosse player in fairfield university in connecticut. he joins us on the phone. greg, are you with us? >> i'm here. melissa: thanks for joining you. what do you think about issue? as an ncaa athlete, do you want to be unionized, what does it mean to you? >> very interesting topic. and i would like to applaud ken coulter for his actions. i think it is great for standing up what he think is right. i believe personally that we do deserve a better voice within the ncaa. i think he is right to say that, you know, student athletes are not as well-represented as they should be. i also believe that things are such that really stuck out to me was the idea of the medical coverage. i think, you know, student athletes are giving up body for
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their sport and their schools. ncaa is saying they have no legal obligation to cover injuries such as concussions. i think that's, should be up for debate. i think, stuff, what we're doing for the ncaa for our schools should be covered. if we sustain an injury during our college career i think, and we have lingering symptoms, i think that should be covered past college. melissa: i think that is probably the biggest part our audience doesn't understand because it doesn't come to mind right away when you think about unionizing college athletes. if you're a college student and in college on a scholarship and you happen to get injured you could lose your scholarship. >> absolutely. melissa: you may have to change schools as a result. you could be stuck with really big medical expenses. here you are playing on behalf of the school. when you do well they profit and benefit. you benefit as well because you get to go to the school and you're on a scholarship you but feel like you need some downside protection in case you get
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injured in the line of duty. am i saying it right? >> yeah, that is exactly how i feel. as far as, you know, when you say we're rewarded, ncaa brings in so much revenue. i know that is a major topic of debate, but i think what mainly what the college student needs is protection and coverage for what they are giving up and what they, you know, if they have lingering symptoms after college, student injury they sustained playing for that school i think it is something the ncaa should cover. melissa: is unionizing the right way to do this though? union is something that you do when you're being paid and you pay membership fees based on your wages. you're not collecting a wage. so do you think this is the% right way to do it? do you think you should get some sort of insurance? >> that's obviously main thing i think they're getting at through this whole idea but i feel that, you know, as a student athlete, especially coming from fairfield at a mid major, i feel our
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compensation is our education and our scholarship that we get in order to receive for athletic ability but it is for education and i think that is what our compensation really is. so when you're saying we have to be paid in unionizing or something like that i don't feel that is probably not the best way because i feel overall our education is what we received these athletic scholarships for. melissa: greg, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate the input. >> thank you very much, bye. melissa: what do pros think of college athletes having their own union? after all college athletes are still amateurs. isn't college for education and sports something they do voluntarily? here with opinions, washington redskins defensive end, adam carrker and former player tayoka jackson. adam, let me go to you first, what you just heard. >> i believe unionizing is step
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in the right direction. a lot of money is made for college athletes whether bowl games, paraphernalia, ea sports games off their likeness and images. i think it's a good thing they're unionizing. i hope it is not a slippery slope toward direction like a semipro team. melissa: that is the danger, when you talk about what could be downside to offering them. on one hand, some sort of protection. you go to certain college based on scholarship. you get ininjured in a game. all of sudden the college scholarship is gone. you may have to transfer from the school. you're trying to get into the area where you're becoming compensated and it is professional. >> in my opinion she they should be compensated there is tremendous amount of money being made, melissa, these head coaches are being paid generational wealth. i mean it is crazy. melissa: compensation is a free and valuable education for the rest of your life.
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isn't that what the compensation is? >> well that should be part of the package. if we look at some of the recent surveys, there is one survey done most recently here, 21 public schools, a vast number of athletes were reading at a 8th grade level. some as low as fifth grade level. so are they really getting educated? is there really time? is the schedule to play big-time college athletics is it conducive to get quality education? melissa: maybe that is one thing the union does. they go in there and look out for students rights to make sure they're definitely getting an education. is that one way to look at it? adam, what do you think? >> absolutely. i think so. i believe the athletes should be compensated definitely more than what they're getting. there are details we don't know. it will take time and research to come out. athlete in l.a., how much should they get versus athlete in arkansas? quarterback versus kicker. fencing team versus football team. there is details we need to research over time.
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they need to get more than what they're getting. i think they need to remain amateur athletes however. melissa: tyoka, should there somebody in the ncca doing these things and looking for kids rights? don't they have their own representatives, hey if the kid gets injured and they have incredible medical bills the family can not possibly pay, maybe the college benefited from him being in that game should pay for those? there is no doing that. >> in actuality with actions in the past and statement released recently they don't represent the players. it what it looks like to me the ncaa is basically a cartel that exists to create money for itself and for its members institutions. there is no body to help make sure that these athletes are getting what they deserve. again what one piece is compensation. one piece is schedule that actually allows them to get a quality education. and another piece would be long-term health care. maybe another piece would be creating a referendum where
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after their playing days are over there is vehicle that allows them to come back and finish their education. these are all things not being addressed. just like we saw in the debate about the minimum wage where $15 was thrown out, that was probably unrealistic but got a conversation started. this union thing technically probably won't fly as a union but getting a conversation started. that is a very good thing. melissa: gentlemen, thanks so. great insight. >> thank you. >> thank you. melissa: it is all about the royals. we have the man behind, lord evident, the 17-year-old music sensation that made grammy history. who will win a music battle between real artists versus all those manufactured ones? one of the biggest names behind the music will be here to tell all later in the show. coming up, do you think you can proprotect your personal information by deleting it off your smartphone? think again. scammers can retrieve the info, years after quote, unquote
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it's abig day today?romise. even bigger one tomorrow. when csx trains move forward, so does the rest of the economy. csx. how tomorrow moves. melissa: first neiman marcus, target, yahoo! is there anyone that isn't getting hacked? if you're afraid of being victimized by cyber criminals, you might hightail it to florida where attorney general pam bondi pushing tough reforms that would hold retailers to higher accountability. attorney general bondi joins us now. pardon me. i understand you weren't happy with neiman marcus's response. how come? >> well, actually neiman marcus,
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they have been very cooperative. target's been very cooperative, as well as other businesses. we're looking at that now. our biggest concern, you know, melissa, what this is about, this is about bringing the concept of protecting our consumers from cybercrime into the 21st century. that is what we have to do. if business is breached. they have obligation to notify the consumers. that is what we're working on. that is what we want to enhance and we want to toughen up and we want to hold businesses accountable, if they're not notifying consumers, right away, and giving consumers the proper tools to protect themselves. melissa: what are those tools? kind of seems like at this point, when you look how far-reaching it is, it seems inevitable? >> well, it is frightening, isn't it. that is why it is so frightening. what we want to do is under florida's deceptive and unfair trade practices, we want not
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only businesses but alss government agencies. to have to report to my office within 15 days, this is still a work in progress because it hasn't gone through session yet, a time frame of approximately 15 days, we want to be sure they're problem properly notifying all consumers and notifying banks. they are taking proper action. melissa: did that not happen in this case? >> well, absolutely. in both of these indications it is still work in progress. still dealing with all the businesses and hoping they did notify them in time. also look at government entities. look at clinics, look at health clinics. we had a case where there was a reporter actually found medical records in a dumpster. melissa: yeah. >> if you're doing, that we want you to be held accountable whether government agency or private business. >> one of the questions that
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come out of it, do credit reporting agencies have to change the way they do business? if the real danger in here is identity theft, it seems like it is not fair for your credit to be destroyed any longer because of identity theft. it will happen to so many people? do they have to change the way they do business? >> well, i think they do. i think businesses need to be more proactive around need to get with the credit companies and need to explain to them. this is not the consumers fault. this is breach on our end. meaning on businesses. consumers you have to monitor the credit report, if you're breached you have a duty to do it for you. melissa: is there answer or solution to all this? when we have cyber experts on, they keep saying this kind of a theft is only going to get worse and even more prevalent. it is very hard to detect. they only catch it after the fact. is there a solution? >> well, that's why we bro
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prosed this legislation. our legislation was archaic. it was not even 10 years old. they have a duty to report something is breached -- melissa: we only have a couple of seconds left, so i want to give you. >> sure. melissa: tell them to tell you sooner doesn't stop it from happening in the first place. that's what i'm really concerned about. and that's what we want prevent. but we can give consumers tips on how to, and by the way, if you're filing your taxes, file them early. that is very important because once you file them, and your social security number is in there, if someone tries to file after you, they will get caught. melissa: pam bondi, thanks so much for coming on. appreciate your time. >> thank you. melissa: so we know your phone is your life. it has everything on it from your photos, messages your passwords. you might think deleting it all before selling or tossing the short phone could keep you safe, you're dead wrong. a hacker can still recover all
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your information. we have a i.d. theft expert and ceo of best i.d. theft company.com. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. melissa: when you go in and clean off your phone so that you can recycle it, so that you can sell it or trade it in, it is not really clean, is that what you're saying? >> yeah, not at you will. -- all. i did a study like this myself. i had bought 30 devices within 30 miles radius of boston. laptops, desktops, net books, notebooks, ipads, blackberries, androids all from the secondhand market off of craig's list. i asked every single person i bought from, did you reformat the drives? did you wipe data? did you bring it back to factory reset? every single person said they did. i brought all the devices to my hacker. everybody has a hacker, right if. melissa: right. i do. >> right. he was able to use readily available forensic tools on the web, they work as easy as microsoft office documents and
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he was able to find data on half of the documents, i'm sorry, able to find data on half of the devices could be used to steal identities. melissa: let me list some things for our viewers. deleted images and videos. you think you wiped out pictures that you have downloaded to your phone. they're still there. bank details on your apps. you've gone in to pus your passwords in. emails. sms texts. web browsing history. even geopositionsing and location. these are some things that are on there. >> yeah. melissa: so what do you do about it? >> yeah. basically, when you think you've wiped the drive, you haven't. what you've wiped is basically path to the data. the data is still there in number of different ways, including user names and passwords and videos, pictures, sms texts. the only way to solve the problem is use military grade wiping techniques which most
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consumers don't have access to. what i recommend people do, not to sell the devices in secondhand market. really to destroy them. what you're going to get for an old -- melissa: like with a hamer? like destroy it, run it over with your car? >> i mean like safety glasses and a hammer, yes. otherwise, if you don't destroy that device, once you hand it over to somebody, fay say for 50 bucks you're selling your identity for 50 bucks. that's what you're doing. melissa: that is true of computer, everything else, every time you think you're reformatting drive, scrubbing it, cleaning it you're not doing that. what about the black phone coming up supposedly nsa proof, possible to hack, have you heard of this? do you believe in isn't. >> well it's a prototype at this point. we haven't seen it. the blackberry itself isn't the black phone. melissa: no. >> the blackberry does a really good job of eliminating data, of keeping data off ofve on factory reset. same thing with the iphone and independednt pad. they do a pretty good job of
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removing the data as well. it is android operating system that we've seen the most problems with. so there are ways to get rid of did data beyond destroying the destroys. device. they need to do research before giving it away or selling it on second hack market. melissa: thank you. >> thank you. melissa: president's obama's jobless push. he wants employers to reform hiring practices, great for some but will interference by big government ever end? here is trend not going away. tiny houses. a woman gave up on rent and mortgages by building herself an amazing house, the size of a living room or smaller. you have to see this. it's the smallest thing you will ever see! do you ever have too much money? [ male announcer ] e new new york is open.
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melissa: president obama out pushing a new jobs plan to help the long-term unemployed earlier today. >> while congress decides whether or not it is going to extend unemployment insurance for these americans, we're going to go ahead and act. we know it works. we know we're going to go ahead and see what we can do without additional legislation to make some serious dents in the long-term unemployment problem. melissa: is this really the answer to our unemployment problem? will it work or is it too late? here are the "wall street journal's" veronica dagger and hedge fund manager jonathan hoenig. also a fox news contributor. welcome to the show first of all. this is a huge problem for folks long-term unemployed. six months or so. he is trying to tell companies
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like general motors, walmart, ford, they need to get together and hire these folks. is that the solution? how do you deal with this? >> it's a nice idea. i don't think it is the solution though. i don't know, i think the solution is lot more complex than what he is proposing. >> yeah. >> but i think this idea is important but it has no teeth. i mean it is great that these companies to sign up for this. melissa: pr thing. >> great public relations move for them but will they actually follow through on that? i'm not sure about that. melissa: jonathan, go ahead. >> absolutely nerve of obama, melissa. he knows what works? this is man who never create ad free market job in his life. who lost billions of dollars in his green energy shenanigans. a president under whom the youth and minority unhe will employment rate skyrocketed. he will lecture walmart who should hire, how they should hire? it's a farce on its face. i think the president wants to way stepped outside boundaries of his legitimate function. melissa: may not be a solution. it's a huge problem if you have been out of work for six months
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or more, it becomes incredibly so much harder to find a job. north even university sent out almost 5,000 fictitious resume's. got almost know response for one that is showed that the fake folks had been out of work for six months or longer. there is a stigma attached to it. it becomes hardtory get a job. say cycles on itself to make a problem worse. >> it's a terrible cycle. it drives me greatly that the companies discriminate against people out of work. melissa: i don't know if they're discriminating. if you have to separate it one way or the other, look at somebody out of work for a long time, you tend to sit there, why, why has nobody else picks them up. if nobody wants them i don't want them either. that's what they're think those people still have skills. so many talented people i know out of work for so long, they have something to offer. i think largely, any job program hasn't worked so far. obama has been a failure -- >> made it worse.
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>> it has. >> not just worked, it made it worse. melissa, all the president's efforts to help the unemployed, higher minimum wage, longer unemployment benefits which keeps people out. workforce for longer periods of time, made it more difficult. only incentive is profit. a corporation's profitability and president made that more and more difficult. that is why you see the long-term unemployment rate sky-high. >> i worry with a lot of really long-term unemployed it is a structural problem. their jobs in their industry pretty much disappeared. these are a lot of manufacturing jobs. that is a problem. i don't know how you even begin to tackle that. >> it is such a global marketplace that those jobs don't exist anymore. they're in other countries. i think in this country at love financial advisors i talk to they're small business owners too. they're reluctant to hire because of all the regulation, because of high taxes. so we're not making it easier for employers to create these jobs. melissa: jonathan, go ahead. >> we don't have pullman porters
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anymore. we don't have elevators operators, melissa, a lot of jobs destroyed. you know what? people gotten better jobs in a free economy there is unlimited amount of jobs that can be created. the problem is, we don't have a free economy. everything the president has done made it less and less free. the net result is this unemployment rate is still tremendously high. melissa: jonathan, you are so meek. never give your opinion. it worries me. you have to get more confidence and more opinion. thanks to both of you. >> i will work on that. melissa: have a great weekend. up next, all aboard the sick cruise? a royal caribbean boat that affected 700 passengers is back out at sea! just as 200 more fall ill? on a different ship. this is another story, a different ship is infected! boil those things! what are we going to do? it is disgusting! are you going on a cruise after this? i'm being forced to but that is another story. let me know what you think. >> these guys used make virtual
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cruz we also have peter deaconesses industry needs one and a professor from nyu school of medicine. you are fresh off the cruise from hell. do you get your money back? >> not yet. they said the% and i called because i just wanted to know exactly what they we're doing for us in apparently we are not getting our money back. melissa: you made it back alive and that should be good enough. [laughter] you are lucky to be alive. screw you. are you going to go on a cruise again? >> i don't think so. melissa: is it a good idea?
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>> you lived through hell of the worst experience of life i will give you half of your money. >> the cruise industry is virtually indestructible. one year ago the boat could not get back its own power per girl --. it is preyed lists everything is taken care of if it was a little nicer you would go back all they have to do is we screwed up. melissa: but it seems there is no way to get people from getting sick. the view cannot float around on a giant toy let of all of waste close together to not have everyone get violently ill is there a way? does not seem like it. >> mitt millions of people
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are safe but once this takes hold and is almost impossible to control. if a sick passenger comes on board you may not even realize it. it takes a few days. melissa: but what is it that you have a massive outbreaks? to close together, you cannot carry your waste around? it is not in the environment. >> if you go to the common areas. melissa: just go outside. if you enjoy any part of the cruise is what i got out of it. >> and the state room they gave me you could literally fit for of those it is ridiculously small. when i go through japan i have to go thrace a heat sensor you cannot enter the
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country. >> because nobody but would get of the ship. melissa: how awful was it? my mother in law is forcing us to go on a cruise in july. after all of this. how awful? i want to mentally prepare myself. >> it was horrendous. especially when the cdc came to spray the chemicals might eyes were bloodshot four days straight. even after that they were getting sacked simic even once you find it is hard because if you wash your he ends that just wipes away it does not actually kill its. melissa: i really don't want to go. is a disney cruise. >> they'd never get sick parker you will be fine. >> will you ever do this again?
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>> you act like you know this is crazy. you have done it a million times. >> i have never experienced it except for the best. >> it only has been hit once stood mcanally almost that die one time. laugh a dash almost die one time. [laughter] >> i don't want to go. go ahead. just in time for a the halftime show you bring the halftime talent or the showmanship at the end of the day it is all about money.
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melissa: another busy week we vowed to stay away from cruises and were spied on by google a and talk to real people just like you. >> for the president raising minimum-wage. >> when you try to mandate the minimum wage to focus on the wrong part it has to come from somewhere. >> there will be an impact. melissa: you work a job you don't need a college degree do expect more for having a college degree? >> i did. melissa: it has successfully printed and delivered late liver tissue. >> said in the rolling in chatters to back we are very excited to be blessed the pro-business leadership of
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governor walker when you send those dollars back of the things i can come from is to mckee says lifting children and families from poverty is marriage. >> some say it is economic sensible but don't let have meant have everything their way. >> overturning 700 people that got the horrendous stomach of. >> i had a burning pain in my stomach it was a nightmare spirit they gave them a 60% refund. >> is google's big brother? >> they know more about you fayette you do. >> that is a scary prospect. >> i have one share of google's left jab i feel ridiculous. >> if they send you an e-mail to say you are out of hand lotion. >> that means they are in my bathroom don't send me
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lotion. melissa: that is why you have to watch every day. grammy royalty the newest sensation making a splash from a 17 year-old waiting to year-old -- two awards for her breakout hits the yen against to ever win that category. here to -- to discover the star did you know right away? said he would pick a winner every single time. >> i do peppercorn sometimes thought every time that once in awhile you just hear what that explodes and says that is it. the first time i heard her i went crazy. melissa: what makes her popular that she feels very peter mike adele.
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there is a struggle between what is manufactured not that we don't like that like the maile cyrus idea everybody who comes off a reality show it is very package to cover pretty speers said the musicians that are authentic. >> i think there is room for all but the pendulum has swung into that direction the manufactured pops out of maybe people were overloaded then along comes adele and she is almost like the antidote to justin be better. she has a point of view she is a strong woman not prone to the trappings and writes her own music. how about that? melissa: watched the reality shows if you want to be popular or a success you have to be a certain physical image you cannot be
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adele or larger than a super model. it has to be edgy that attracts attention that would get you into trouble that you have to have these. is there a billion it is about musec? >> you do have to make music ttat people love than anything is possible and adele proved that to the nth power. on her own terms. she did not adhere to anything normal but she made the most beautiful album anyone had heard in a long time and it touched them. and she has done that as well people feel they needed this. they did not know that but once they heard it it was magical. melissa: real verses authentic minister is the
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halftime show it will live be lips sinkk this is manufactured versus what is real it ruins your reputation but then pretty spier's goes to las vegas is she will lip sync will whole thing? >> i am lip sync right now. [laughter] i give us credit but i think it is overblown most years disagree but to me she is doing though whole show that way nbc is up front it is a performance they have nothing to complain about it but there is a parallel that you hear about fiancee. -- beyonce.
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maybe she had a sore throat she has 17 grammys will we really get over her? melissa: do people want as people paid more and expect you to perform? i knew she was lip sync i was the ising through the whole thing. >> if you find out your favorite actor or actress did not perform the the new scene -- nude scene if i go to see adele i want to hear that voice. >> you will. by the way if you hear barbra streisand you will hear that voice. you'll always hear her saying but some performers it is more of a show thought maybe they cannot do it talk about the super bowl there
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2500 square feet down at 200. why did you go so small? was adjusted that challenge? >> it is all i need. it is built on the back of a trailer to avoid building codes they could get down at 90 square feet. melissa: i was looking at the pictures you have a great dane? that is so hard to believe. >> he is excited every day to come home. melissa: your budget was 12,000 you did the electrical yourself you taught yourself by what he knew too good videos? >> i did all of it from the construction to plumbing and electrical. the biggest challenge was the electrical and was the scariest.
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melissa: day you own the property undee neece? i am trying to wonder why you did not go bigger you have a little more space. >> that is a good question. i don't own the property. i print. it gets down to use the building codes of the minimum square footage that are required for permanent dwelling so if it is on wheels you can bypass the 600 required was down at the 200 i was looking for. melissa: have you thrown and the parties? to have a guest over or a big super bowl party to watch? >> my family is in town. they have come over. i had 14 people over there. melissa: and stop it. i need a picture.
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just as i suspected. we hope you made money. on monday when how to partner with a celebrity we will unbolt the details. have of a great weekend. the willis report is next. >> hello. tonight, though willis report. the environmental report on the keystone pipeline is in the president is out of excuses to delay his decision. people told to keep their kids at home if they don't get a flu shot. is that legal? something surprising is happening with a mortgage rates. they may be going up but they are going down. tonight to. the "willis report". gerri:

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