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others know about their experience. including reputation over government any day. that is our show and see you next week. r tonight "willis rep" thank you for joining us and don't forg to dvr our show. lou: good evening, everyone. it is official. this will not be the year of action on immigration like the nation. the republican leadership today announced that after flirting with the idea of an the that the house of representatives will not take up the issue this year. speaker john boehner listened to his constituents on caucus and apparently tooseriously the thoughts to his speakership. we'll have the story tonight and also the department of justice refusing a congressional request for the we doj investigator to appear before congress. among our guests, one who
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represents the tea party organizations suing the irs for violating the first and fifth amendment constitutional right. and a brand-n study backs up the congressional budget office and those who are reporting that obamacare will will cost jobs over the next decade and that undercuts the attempts of obamacare on economic growth. and speaker boehner and immigration legislation. speaker boehner is the subject of heavy criticism wiin his own caucus because he floated an amsty thai proposal during the republican annual retreat last week. here is speaker boehner explaining that the president's refusal to enforce laws on anything other than the selective basis on any issue makes it impossible to trust him on any issue.
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>> there is widespread doubt about whether this administration can't be trusted to enforce our laws. and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation until that changes. lou: trustworthiness to the american republic. congressman paul told the roll call magazine of the problem th we have right now is that republicans and the american public do not trust this president to enforce the law. the backlash from within the house republican caucus is serious enough to include a threat to braiders job when asked what would happen when the house took up immigration legislation this year. it was responded that it shoul cost him his speakership. coming after mitch mcconnell
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declared his this earer this week and after a house budget committee chairman, paul ryan reversed his own decision. just a week ago expressing support for a bill with a path to citizenship for those in this country illegally. foretelling the gop leadership when he reversed himself and said security first and then we might be able to get somewhere. president obama may once again be unilaterally part of this and a spokeswoman has confirmed to fox news that the obama administration is now considering whether allow insurance companies to extend cancel health insurance plans for another three years. that would take them beyond the midterm elections and those cancellations would not occur and those cancellations would not occur before befo the
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presidential election either. all this on top of the one-year extension when the public started dealing with the disastrous effects of those cancellations and obamacare directly responsible. democrats trying to a extend the effects of obamacare here we have the director who sent obamacare create a disincentive for people to work. >> can you show me what he said it would have a negative impact on our economy? i did nothear that. i haven't seen that. he did say that some people might choose not to work. lou: cb director douglas eleanore couldn't be any clearer
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on the economy. here is a reminder for the minority leader. >> just to understand this, it is nothat employers are laying people off. it's that people are working in the work force and are not pplying labo to the equivalent of2.5 million jobs in 2024 and as a resul that lower workforce participation rate is less labor supplied and lowers the economic growth and. >> yes, that is right. lou: it's pretty simple. isn't that? and today, duke university study confirms what the cbo says. here is a portion ofwhat the survey of top company officials found. nearly half of u.s. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the affordable care act. the study goes on. one in five firms indicates that they are likely to hire fewer
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employees. and another one in 10 may lay off current employees in response to the law. other firms will shift towards part-time work.. it could not be clearer. here to bring the bright light of reason t the latest developments on obamacare and speaker boehner's decision to put the brakes on immigration legislation, we are joined by a former member of george bush' staff, georgetown professor brad blakeman. it's good to have you with us. also juan williams and it is so great to have you with us. let's start with you. this is the white house trying to pull back its initial statements trying to spend the cbo report because it was so disastrously a campaign document. why can't the democratic leadership look at what is before them and acknowledge the difficulty is of obamacare and
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write them? >> because it is so political at this point. obamacare thinks and we want to get rid of it and we have had 40 plus votes that repeal and the fund and the women i. everyone should be angry about obamacare and therefore vote republican. so they are not in the mood to propose too much in the way of this even if the proposal came from tom coburn and others last week. many were saying that they could do this or that but it is just a proposal. even though some say that if republicans were serious they would offetheir own proposal for how to write a health care show. lou: to the point about a republican alternative to what we have is a law that is obviously disastrously
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unworkable and it is right now an additional burden on working families in this country except for the lowest quintile of income earners in this country under $21,000 per year. what is to happen here? this is devastating. the studies and the reality perhaps even more so because of the ensuing months as we had to election day for millions of americans. lou: absolutely. it's not enough for republicans to be against obamacare. we no obamacare is a disaster and others not a smidgen of authority. and this is going to take a legislative fix and republicans better get their fix to the american peopland lay out a plan of what they are going to do especially in light of the miilions of people who are going tobe dropped by their employers coming up on the heels of the midterm. this will be a disaster for businesses. and the president and his staff are talking about caring and
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train carrying that and they don't have authority to do that. lou: he doesn't have the authority to do so much that he has done unilaterally. to extend the business mandate and you name it. the waiver for various diseases and unions and other organizations. this is a debacle for the white house. it is clear that the republicans are going to run on it and they are going to run hard. can the democrats withstand that? or is it all but assured that the republicans are going to gain power in both the house and the senate to where they take control of the senate. >> let me just say that i would like to do deconstruct your question. the landscape for republicans is very favorable. after a shutdown of last year, the genric preference was plus 10 democrats in the house. people want to bring democras back. now it is even. republicans, as you know, have a
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17 feet of vantage in the house and i don't see any way that the democrrts can gain us at the moment. obamacare is part of that weight that the democrats have to carry. in the senate there is a differential or republicans have to pick this up in order to gain the majority and you have to look at this. the democrats have about 10 of these up. a lot of states where mitt romney won by the double digits. the one that is particularly influential within those 10 seats in the senate. we're actually mitt romney carried those states. >> even in states like west virginia, there's lots of potential there. but if you're asking me, i will tell you all so that think that there is a danger here for republicans muster is something all of that has happened in a big way.
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i think that everyone is familiar with obamacare and the problem. will that be the deciding dotor in the way they vote in november? i don't know. another white i know the white e is confident that it won't be. lou: on the issue of immigration , and the republicans backing away from any effort here that they believe that they can take the senate and will be able to control the shape in the form of immigration reform so that it cannot mutate back into a version of the g8 amnesty. is that a correct readingof this psyche of the republican leadership? >> just come it is. this issa practical decision ad also more importantly a political decision. when you have obamacare going down the tubes and the american people are just fed up with losing their insurance or not being able to get insurance at affordable price they were promised, why are republicans advancing another obama type of care massive thing which the
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democrats are seeking? they want a 3000 page bill, they been on the road before. nobody reads and nobody understands. to take the emphasis and focus away from the disaster which is obamacare. also we don't have the time in the legislative season to pass the kind of legislative reforms that the president or the democrats would support. so it's going to be intesting that the republicans will go down this road. lou: you get the last word here. i recall vividly that about the name juncture as we approach election day thinking how can this president withstand given this economy the assault by the republicans. they not only did that, but this president emerged with a broad margin of victory and i don't hear the republicans talking about a cohesive strategy and perhaps what is not truly a national electio can you tell us your thoughts on the likelihood and the likely result?
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>> thk this is going to be a good year for reublicans. i would say to you that again the most recent wall street journal poll still had most americans inclined towards obamacare. saying at this point it's the law, let's fix that. plane back to what brad had said. put something on the table. on immigration that is going to be taught in teir voting democratic. lou: i think it is fair to say that the issue of trust on e part of his president, republicans are going to make it clear that this is a central issue. gentlemen, we could give her being here. lou: thank you. on wall street, the dow jones up, an impressive 180 points. so impressive because it is the us performance year-to-date. the s&p up, the nasdaq up 40 points on the day. the wilshire 500 putting
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today's paper dean at a quarter of a million dollars. jobless claims are true, shares of twitter today plunged 24%. he stock as you see there, $50 per share. the company reported a slowdow in either untrained user growth. listen to our financial reports three times a day on the salem radio network. today the kickoff for the mercedes-benz fashion week here in new york city. designers, the 2014 collection. what is the big deal? americans spend $250 billion on fashion each and every year. we are coming right back. >> the woman at the center of the obama administration's targeting of conservative groups caught up in another irs
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lou: our next guest testified at hearing on the internal revenue stand out. representing 41 conservative groups that he claims wer targeted by the internal revenue service. joining us now is the chief counsel of the american center for law and just is. it's good to have you here. >> thank you. lo you claim that these e-mails that came to the house ways and means committee, that show lois lerner circuiting servicing and encouraging political targeting and that they are the focal point of what we should be looking at?
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why so? >> a couple of reasons. first, i was lois lerner who did the setup question that the aba meeting last year. that is where she acknowledged that the irs had engaged in inappropriate targeting based on names of organizations. she offered an apology for that. she later blamed that on to rogue agents and took the fifth amendment when she was called before the cgress. now i know why those that have been following the situation understand that she took the fifth endment. an e-mail served yesterday as part of the house ways and means committee investigation. which shows not just lois lerner but five deputy chief counsels of the irs, that's the highest level in the legal department, at the internal revenue service. i work there when i got out of law school otime ago. those are the most senior people in the office and they were in fact rewriting the rules on what these conservative organizations
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can do. a year before this. lou: okay, let me share with our viewers the june 2002 e-mail. this is from ruth to lois lerner. saying that we don't know who in your organization is keeping tabs on the organizations and the groups called 501 c-4, i have my radar into the scene. interesting. what in the world does that mean? >> number one it means not publicly discussed or publicly known. they were doing this literally off the books, so to speak trade your remember the lois lerner was sending e-mails to other agencies and also sending e-mails with data into her persal e-mail account. the radar was up because it was really coming from the president and heade that speech in front
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of the supreme court. the state of the union and chastising them. for the chatterley groups. so basicay what you have is the head of the irs with both the division and their lawyer and the chief counsel that were following orders. the white house sending a clear message, lois lerner getting messages and she's certainlnot innocent by any stretch of the imagination. this was orchestrated at the highest level and the idea that they've lameness on lowell level agents now is absurd. lou: two rogue agents. also explain in part why lois lerner took the fifth. so how concerned are you, the new director of ers reinstating those bonuses. doing so so boldly and sing very clearly that he doesn't care what the house oversight committee or congress thinks that he is more concerned about their union.
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sebelius come he was worried about the union litigation and boosting morale. the row is pretty low once the irs started targeting them. rather than giving out the millions and millions of dollars of bonuses, to an agency that is incapable of self correcting. and they can self correct. so the new commissioner comes in and he doesn't say that i'm going to get to the bottom of this or grant these organizations -- no, he aards at behavior and the irony is that the bad behavior is being awarded here. lou: bad behavior. and i can't imagine us. but it appears as though the president has resolved the whole matter and told o'reilly that there isn't a smidgen of corruption here. are you satisfied? >> no smidgen of corruption. but they were called before
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congress. but you head into the office is rewritg the rules the year before this scandal breaks. this is beyond corruption to me. this is a targeted scheme by the arra is. at the end of the day the administration believes that they can bully the american people into silence and i think the reality is that that is not going to happen. the only thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. lou: a bionic breakthrough that we want to tell you about tonight. european researchers have created a rbotic hand to deal shapes and textures. working to stimulate the surviving nerves. a remarkable scientific advance. the democrats are ill infull spin mode despite a new independent report backing up the cbo job killing claims.
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hoped that obamacare would be an effective government program for uninsured americans. first we have the congressional budget office saying that obamacare would cut the employment by 2.3 million jobs over the next decade or so. and today we have annt duke university study around the country. 44% of those companies with the cfo represents a considering cutting health benefits to the current workers because of obamacare. also nearly half of top companies are reluctant to hire full-time workers because of obamacare. intuitively most of us understood what was happening. now the duke university study strongly demonstrating 40% considering shifting to part-time workers because of obamacare. cait get worse for obamacare? the answer is yes. new reports of a little known quirk in obamacare though folks
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are counting the old mama care subsidy. in some cases folks are going to lose of obamacare subsidies. thirty or $40 per monththirty o. around the median ncome. they would pay $211 a month for the cheapest obamacare plan. but if they go 1 dollar over that, $62,041 per year, they wouldpay $1342 per month for the same plan and that works out to an annual cost of 30,000 dollars per year. that is because they earned a dollar more.
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we will be talking about this with kate rogers about how democrats can keep claiming that obamacare doesn't create disincentives to work and doesn't really have a negative impact on the economy. this is important. playing against the cavaliers last night, down to only four active layers after the fourth quarter. the referees wigley conferred in a found a litt known nba rule because none of them had ever experienced to this and that requires the two remain in the game against considerable odds over the cleveland cavaliers. we are coming right back. >> now we have a new book and her views on why some immigrants her views on why some immigrants ex [ male announcer ] e new new york is open.
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lou: two days after the cbo report revealing obamacare's job killing trajectory and here comes duke university's business school survey backing it all up. joining us now with kate rogers. it's good to have you with us. >> thank you for having me. lou: how in the world could anyone misunderstand these two reports. we will have a labor force participation rate. what am i missing? >> i don't think we're missing anything. for employees of kind of the lesser of two evils. we have the cbo report that says 2 million fewer jobs or 2017 and out duke university saying that
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half of these will scale back their benefits. would you rather keep your job. lou: people forgot the mckenzie study. saying that businesses as they learned more about obamacare are going to push away workers and they are going to take this and the employees and the younger are willing to take those signs as well rather than 24% that are simply walking away from that. is there any goodness for this in obamacare? >> we are seeing this when the employer mandate kicks in that bigger companies will say that this will probably happen and they will hire part-time workers like a companies or scale back
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their benefits. so good news here and not so much for those who qualify for subsidies. but it's not the case across the board either. >> this is becoming redistribution without any question because we are looking at the lowest quintile of learners and they do get a legitimate increase in income. but the top 80% of earners in the country, ts is redistribution $90,000 her feelings for failing for come you will get them a discount and then if you go over tha cliff, you lose the quest and then why might be a disincentive to work.
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the white house is saying that workers on don't have the same jobs that they're not happy in any anymore. the law continues to be implemented. >> it is hard to imagine people cheering on the idea that they will not be part of the labor force. and those who are chronically unemployed and hopefully with the onset of prosperity and it may be dependent upon the outcome of the election and 2016. throughout thank you very much. lou: viewers have a lot to say about the cbo obamacare report and steve wrote in to say that the two major political parties demonstrate the votes over jobs including a bull market in votes and they air market in good jobs
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lou: well, the afghan and pakistani government is now in peace talks. my next guest says that the united states is engaging in other policy disasteby allowing afghanistan to fal into the hands. it will be publisd in march and it's great to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: let's turn first to the ukraine. this is an absurd comment and honestly someone is hacking into newlands conversation and it's being released in russia. but what is going on with this administration. first base of ordered the government and the ukrainian
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government that wa movin towards russia and resisting the deonstration and now they have reversed that and they are claiming that eu isn't doing enough. what is going on with them in the ukraine? > these are words us among colleaes and even higher level diplomats and ground number one is that it is really of great concern to me and this is a high-level conversation between those who ended up on youte. and this and others are telling us that washington is not really factoring in our allies such as the european union when it comes to the ukraine. you had a stronger supporof the democratic movement and now it seems that we are changing and this is a reminder in
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coarison with what was done with iran and syria. >> i wonder people take a moment and we are listening to state department employees on the telephone. then one gets the feeling that 's not coincidental that edwards noted in his hitting and russia having revealed so much of the u.s. intelligence capabilities and it is a little disturbing in their am that refer to him. >> it is disturbing, as you said or it specifically because these are things that still happened. and does that mean that we will see more of it down the line with regard to iran or terrorism? no, we are entering troubled waters on this matter.
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>> now the administration after we hit a report for his silence seekers we have the rorts of the administration easing restrictions on asylum seekers with so-called loose trorist ties. and i am not an armist but'm getting disturbed by what seems to be a trend here. i have an expert witns in court brisbane of the last 20 years or did judes were very concerned about who has a link to the terrorist organization and with this new memo it's getting more complicated. the relationship that they have paid taxes and they say that it would be our concern if we don't have th ideoogy that has come
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down clearly in this is another problem. and then being accepted on that ground. >> pointing out again that this administration and ignoring the law with immigration and nationality act and unilaterally and without support of congress or the courts. it is truly disturbing and we have received word that there is a report that russia is asserting it might intervene in the ukraine. your reaction to that possibility and what might we expect that intervention could be? >> number one they have
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officials and of course not. and they are supporting the democrats and the democratic elements possible. >> one would hope. that basically ukraine is crucial. this is the access to the black sea. without the ukraine moves to the west, there is no access. so they are seing those signals d i don't think that they are going to venture inside the ukraine. and this is a signal that they are very much disturbed by the fact that the ukraine may leave the correlation withrussia. the on figure for being with us. >> thank you. the winter olympic games got underway today. but the lasting image is souul. it is not the olympians
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themselves. but a stray dog on a lonely street not filled with thousands of fans nd tourists. frs and terrorism is and security be concerned. perhaps these images will not be the last thing that is an image of the game. pick up a copy of my new book available online. bookstores everywhere and wal-mart as wll. go to loudobbs.com as well. what are they? find out here what does everything mean to you? with the quicksilver cash back card from capital one, it means unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. it doesn't mean, "everything.. as long as you buy it at theas station." it doesn't mean, "everything... unl you hit your cash back limit." it means earn 1.5% casback
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lou: she shot a word with her last look with her oer demanding parents. now the original tiger mom has a new book stirring more contversy. joining me now is the co-author of the new book. the rise and ll of cultural groups in america. these traits are so fascinating if the have a long and chosen number of people an also a moral superiority.
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especially with the second element because because they feel like they're not quite accepted. and that combination, a feeling that is exceptional and special an integer i nee to be respected. lou: we are thinking about expressing it that way. ateast i certainly never did self-restraint and respect and this is what we know. it is inequality and opportunity is shrinking.
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we are looking at theroups that are strikingly successful. we look at nigerian americans and cuban-americans. it is the ability to instill in them their children a hunger to strive. lou: how about just writing your family. >> you are right. you workout that enter reality. lou: i have to go home to my wife and explain why is that
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something that wouldn't be entirely true. impulse control is not always the best. but my children are perfect. >> illustrate the point. it just happens to be that at this point and time certain groups are using it more than others. >> and it is a powerful statement when you look at these groups and you mention nigeria and an amazing representation. and we look at asian performance in the classroom.
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>> it is the quality and democracy and hard work. and we also have the insecurity of being the underdog in work. lou: whenyou start broadening it to the macro, how have we behaved. >> sometimes the limitations are as a naton. and hopefully we will keep those values fundamental. >> i think that most aricans welcome back. how is everything?
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neil: this is a relief, healthcare is note costing americans their job, it is liberating them from their jobs, how would you like that to be the your next markets campaign. so costly more than 2 million americans lose their jobs in next 7 years, we're looking at it the wrong way, they are not tossed they are liberated. this from nancy pelosi, escape job loss, situation where workers remain tied to empye
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